The Catalyst

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Originally Posted by Anomaly

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saying it's a 'twist' on the phenomena...

Excuse me, I did not mean it in a disparaging way. I don't know who you are or anything that you know. Tango left some cryptic information in his obtuse yet overbearing manner, then you added more "google kundalini symptoms" instructions. Sorry, but I did not see the "Comprehensive Theory on Morgellons and Kundalini" in those links and I have no way of reading either of your minds. I'm fairly deep into web woo-hoo and this is new to me, so it must be new to a lot of other people as well. I'd suggest, to both of you, that you first present your hypothesis, then get comments rather than the other way around. Either that, or try not to be so offended with the reactions you receive.

Originally Posted by Anomaly

I'm not picking on a typo...

yes you are

Originally Posted by Anomaly

take the term AWAKENING as we're using it, a 'kundalini' awakening, as a spiritual awakening, resulting in a literal physiological change.

I would not expect 'awakening' to be "brain fog", but rather clarity...at least eventually.

Originally Posted by Anomaly

Place Patient A in an environment where they are taken care of and helped by knowledgeable people who understand this, and inform the patient beforehand as to everything about this kundalini/christ energy, and they go through the physical growing pains smoothly, with the aid of the proper time tested ancient ointments like:
myrrh, (eucharist annointment oil known for it's anti-inflammitory effects) frankincense (known for it's calming effects) and rue, (known for it's anti-spasmotic effects, ceasing muscle spasms) ....
...and they go through the emotional/spiritual changes with as best aid and from other wise and compassionate leaders as possible.


one group researches their symptoms at the onset, using say, google..
and by the luck of the draw comes across kundalini forums discussing how to get through the twitching, vibrations, magnetic and electrical sensations, psychological changes, chakra sensations..

Do you have links to these forums? That would be better than the broad search links you posted.

Anomaly, I get what you're say here, but you did not address my question, you turned into one of semantics. Let me rephrase it: Who has gone through this alleged Morgellons/Kundalini transformation and what is their condition now? Are they healthy and beyond "brain fog" and the physical symptoms? Where is the evidence, beyond these conjectures that this unpleasant condition is the onset of a human evolutionary change?

I'm far from being a die hard skeptic. I try not to limit myself to belief or disbelief, but you have not made a case, only a theory without much to back it up. If you guys want to sell this on a public forum, it's up to you to present the evidence, not for the rest of us to research it ourselves.

Originally Posted by Anomaly

if you had no idea of what sound-to-skull technology was...
and you heard voices in your head telling you they were from a distant planet, and they spoke in beautiful compassionate ways, about knowledge that was making sense to your current belief system, then how could you distinguish what you were experiencing as anything other than "channeling?"

so the real question is :
was it a human governmental agency using that technology to channel information to her?
or was it extraterrestrial (possibly human extraterrestrial) individuals using that technology to channel information to her.

No, that is not the "real" question. Yes this technology is present. Yes the CIA is using it. So what? You don't know my "current frame of reference". By yours it seems that interdimensional communication is impossible so there must be a material plane answer...therefore your razor is different from mine. By my measure your conclusion is not the simplest, it is simply the easiest one that fits into your paradigm.

I've been with Marciniak when she was channeling. It's as if she has an open circuit to some other intelligence, not just when she'd performing, but all the time. One of the reasons I respect her is because of all the channelers, she seems to have been able to detach from the source of the communications and keep herself, herself. Also the information she's presented, at least at the time of the presentation, was far more expansive than almost anything else that was available.

Not that I'm into it, but do you suppose that the Urantia Book was written by the CIA and delivered by brain to skull technology? You can't just write off the sources of all channeled information this easily.

I'm not such a hard sell, but you have presented a volume of opinion and conjecture and very little evidence here. When you're discussing this kind of far flung material and then get out Occam's Razor to make your point, you lose me.

Originally Posted by Anomaly

could someone please explain to me how Marciniak's information about the signs of the change... would be presented to us in a way that is in any way different than what we're seeing in 'morgellons' ??? I mean go for it.. get imaginative.. just don't deviate from what the Marciniak information says.

I've never envisioned the "light encoded filaments" as Morgellons. Perhaps it's a fit, but maybe not. I would be interested on her take on this, because I'd assume that she has intuition to go along with it. It does matter what she thinks about it, because she felt the meaning while she spoke those words.

I'm not sure what's going on here in this thread, but it seems like some kind of set up. Tango drops in his vague suggestions, and when they're questioned, you hammer it home with a rant. That you're convinced of your theory is clear, but the evidence to back it up...while it may be there, has not been presented. No links, no documentation, no quotes from newly evolved survivors, just a whole lot about how sure you are that your conclusions are the only ones possible.

I wasn't the one who brought up the CIA, but this seems more like a psy-op than a discussion.