Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers

[Phtha]

Brook has it ever occurred to you that maybe this reptoid theory is mind manipulation? We are dealing with masters of mind control, perfected after many generations of practice, no one can deny that. They KNOW how to make people believe in lies, it's all around us.... You yourself say you have no first hand experience but seem to be 100% convinced.

If I was one of them I would be looking at the internet as a prime new tool to practice with. You know what? I could register a new account here tomorrow, gain the trust of many members, and weave a tale that would fit right in with many other theories out there about reptiles...

I believe many on this forum are speaking truth when they say they have seen strange beings. My own mother is one such person who had experiences and I believe her as well with all my heart. But this does not mean that we are being led down a path of doom by man eating shape shifting reptiles who have infested our governments at every level.

Maybe they are... I keep an open mind, but to believe it without proof is leaving oneself open to manipulation.

Originally Posted by BROOK

These truths cannot be covered up in "loving" denial...because there is nothing loving about the experience.

And so it begins....shall we cover our heads to the truth these folks would share....let them just keep it to themselves...or will we allow them to shine a light on the darkness...and reveal the truth...the truth "you cannot handle"

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Phtha

Brook has it ever occurred to you that maybe this reptoid theory is mind manipulation? We are dealing with masters of mind control, perfected after many generations of practice, no one can deny that. They KNOW how to make people believe in lies, it's all around us.... You yourself say you have no first hand experience but seem to be 100% convinced.

If I was one of them I would be looking at the internet as a prime new tool to practice with. You know what? I could register a new account here tomorrow, gain the trust of many members, and weave a tale that would fit right in with many other theories out there about reptiles...

I believe many on this forum are speaking truth when they say they have seen strange beings. My own mother is one such person who had experiences and I believe her as well with all my heart. But this does not mean that we are being led down a path of doom by man eating shape shifting reptiles who have infested our governments at every level.

Maybe they are... I keep an open mind, but to believe it without proof is leaving oneself open to manipulation.

:thumb_yell o:

[Angel in Disguise]

Mind manipulation???... I wasn't even awake at the time it happened... No mind manipulation here!... Besides the fact that I wasn't alone witnessing this 'thing'... Otherwise I probably would think that my mind manipulated me. Not so... I saw what I saw and chalked it up to unexplained mysteries, and it still to this day is a mystery.

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

Mind manipulation???... I wasn't even awake at the time it happened... No mind manipulation here!... Besides the fact that I wasn't alone witnessing this 'thing'... Otherwise I probably would think that my mind manipulated me. Not so... I saw what I saw and chalked it up to unexplained mysteries, and it still to this day is a mystery.

Angel...I'm so sorry I missed your other thread...Can you recount your story for us??

[Angel in Disguise]

I hate typing... Therefore repeating myself... Just look here... http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...=counter+intel... And there was another thread here... http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...highlight=York

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

I have seen entities which certainly were transparent......and that moved and felt similar to those depicted in Predator movie...but I could not tell you that they were draconians...I usually call them entities.
I saw them under the effects of Ayahuasca. One of them, the tallest I have ever seen, I would swear that he looks like Predator but it is just a guess, it is just a feeling! Because he is transparent, obviously...


But sometimes from nowhere he appears, he likes to come from behind....and likes to stay by my left side....he is never by my right side...

He is tall, very tall and feels heavy... He sometimes enjoys giving me a little bit of pain...he likes my kidneys.. I am not scared of him but he likes when I suffer physically.

What I am trying to say is that I cannot confirm that he is a draconian...I did not ask him.

For me they are just entities...

Most of the entities I see in normal state of mind...seem quite transparent....you know they are there but you do not SEE them very well....I do not know if I am explaining myself properly...

[Jacqui D]

okay goddess just posted this and i see you mention predator synchronisity!!!

Originally Posted by GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT

I have seen entities which certainly were transparent......and that moved and felt similar to those depicted in Predator movie...but I could not tell you that they were draconians...I usually call them entities.
I saw them under the effects of Ayahuasca. One of them, the tallest I have ever seen, I would swear that he looks like Predator but it is just a guess, it is just a feeling! Because he is transparent, obviously...


But sometimes from nowhere he appears, he likes to come from behind....and likes to stay by my left side....he is never by my right side...

He is tall, very tall and feels heavy... He sometimes enjoys giving me a little bit of pain...he likes my kidneys.. I am not scared of him but he likes when I suffer physically.

What I am trying to say is that I cannot confirm that he is a draconian...I did not ask him.

For me they are just entities...

Most of the entities I see in normal state of mind...seem quite transparent....you know they are there but you do not SEE them very well....I do not know if I am explaining myself properly...

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

Of course Jacqui: he FEELS like predator...what else can I say....
It is the truth...even the way he moves...he is extremely heavy but can jump with no difficulty...
....so yeah you are right!!!

did you have any interaction with them...?. Can you explain what happened to you? If you do not mind of course.
Thanks.

[Jacqui D]

It was two of them a full on attack i thank my self lucky to be alive i think i have some good beings looking after me.
This thing was around 8/9ft tall huge.
it was in combat gear an elite soldier and had been looking for me for many years he told me telepathically.

[Ammit]

I did not see combat gear, I was not spoken too telepathecly as far as i am aware. I know it was taller then my doors, fast as hell and made me want to quiver in a corner. I fear no man and nothing that I understand, this i feared with all my heart and soul.

[eleni]

I have only seem one on an ayahausca experience and a did see a black *devil* like being when I was a child. I wet my pants and I was with a friend.

I have a question......does anyone think it *coincidence* that some Nordic species are also that height and there have been reports where people were tricked - a gorgeous Nordic looking male penetrating an earth female only to turn reptilian?

In my aya experience the reptoid entered my being via my mouth and I had what people would call a kundalini experience. It was sexual in nature- a bit scary but thrilling at the same time.

Edited to add- the black *devil* I saw as a child did take place in what people would call an Illuminati setting/place of origin/Illuminati owned facility. We were in an elevator ( we had free run of this place) and were exploring.
The elevator had double doors so one could get out out at *service* levels.
The elevator stopped at 13th floor which this building did not have as a *regular* side and when it stopped the other door opened. We stayed in the elevator when it opened (meaning we did not leave- as we wouldn't have after what we saw) we pressed so hard for it to close. We were crying and I wet my pants. We didn't tell anyone (grown ups). That *thing* was the scariest thing I have ever seen.

[Jacqui D]

These beings are truly frightening the sheer size alone.
they can smell you no hiding from them.
I went into detail about this attack as i said a year ago on this site i guess if you look deep the info will still be there even posted the mark i had left on my arm.
i have dealt with now had excellent help from someone who explained what happened.
it was a frightening thing to go through so those who do not believe i want to say for myself this happened i have the memory of it i was not mind controlled i was fully awake. and the mark alone gave credence to my story

Originally Posted by Ammit

I did not see combat gear, I was not spoken too telepathecly as far as i am aware. I know it was taller then my doors, fast as hell and made me want to quiver in a corner. I fear no man and nothing that I understand, this i feared with all my heart and soul.

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

It was two of them a full on attack i thank my self lucky to be alive i think i have some good beings looking after me.
This thing was around 8/9ft tall huge.
it was in combat gear an elite soldier and had been looking for me for many years he told me telepathically.

Thank you Jacqui: but ...did you see them PHYSICALLY???? solid solid in front of you...or they were NON-PHYSICAL?....did they hurt you physically...??????

I am really sorry if I am asking too many questions....Please let me know if I am just asking too much...

[Jacqui D]

Yes they were physical, they were solid, i could smell them also.
They were black/green in colour the elite one wore an helmet type on it's head so did not see it's face but it did have the dredlock hair but it is not hair it is their skin more like leathery when they move the head the dredlocks moved so they are loose. They are very quick heavy in foot.
they speak with a low tone very deep in sound.
he wore an armour type breast plate, he was an elite soldier the other one was a shapeshifter when the attack was over i was left in the hands of the other one basically your turn!!!
The second one was undercover he was there to rescue me, he marked my arm with a branding, i have been told it was a lasar mark but the mark was of the earth sign, at one with the galactic consciouness, since this encounter i have had no further abductions or predator attacks i have been told it was a "no touch" sign.

[mu2143]

I have incounter a reptillian in my ancient past, it was one of my dreams I now remember this.
I was walking around the area looked like warm hot pools with water.
found some bones and I was walking future then I was suddenly approached by one it had a tail as a remembered this and the only thing it wanted to do with me was to eat me .... O yeah I was taller then him...

Then I slapped it in to the water with my left hand like it did not even exist.



That was very graphic

[Phtha]

I wasn't talking about your experience Angel, or anyone elses for that matter. I believe you are genuine.
I was talking about this doctrine of hoplessness and fear that lionhawk and many others seems to believe without question.
Anything that leaves a taste of fear in my mouth I doubt, as fear is what manipulative people want us to be experience, that is their goal.

There is too much love and beauty around to ignore...

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

Mind manipulation???... I wasn't even awake at the time it happened... No mind manipulation here!... Besides the fact that I wasn't alone witnessing this 'thing'... Otherwise I probably would think that my mind manipulated me. Not so... I saw what I saw and chalked it up to unexplained mysteries, and it still to this day is a mystery.

[Ammit]

So many sucked in to the need, I also joined to see the result.

[Angel in Disguise]

Phtha... No offense taken whatsoever. I know that there is an abundance of love and beauty but at this point I rarely see it unless alone enjoying the beautiful sounds of nature... Until of course I spot a chemtrail in the sky which always seems to bring me back to this reality that I cannot stand... How do you do it?

[Phtha]

Actually angel I do exactly the same thing you do.. and like you I will often see a chemtrail overhead which I can't help but get upset over.

I just hold strongly to the belief that we are moving into a much better time. We can't fix the system because it is corrupt at the core, so crashing it is the only way, and that is what is happening now.
I have meditated on the whole subject as detached as possible for many hours to come to that decision. There is no polarity, there is only love. We created the hate and fear, and when I say we I include all living beings in existence, but its just an illusion.. the fear. A real illusion, but still an illusion.. and an experience I could do without personally.

That's my take in a nutshell.

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

Phtha... No offense taken whatsoever. I know that there is an abundance of love and beauty but at this point I rarely see it unless alone enjoying the beautiful sounds of nature... Until of course I spot a chemtrail in the sky which always seems to bring me back to this reality that I cannot stand... How do you do it?

[Angel in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Phtha

Actually angel I do exactly the same thing you do.. and like you I will often see a chemtrail overhead which I can't help but get upset over.

I just hold strongly to the belief that we are moving into a much better time. We can't fix the system because it is corrupt at the core, so crashing it is the only way, and that is what is happening now.
I have meditated on the whole subject as detached as possible for many hours to come to that decision. There is no polarity, there is only love. We created the hate and fear, and when I say we I include all living beings in existence, but its just an illusion.. the fear. A real illusion, but still an illusion.. and an experience I could do without personally.

That's my take in a nutshell.

I hold very strongly to that belief as well... Been telling my mom something HUGE is going to happen in my lifetime since I was 6yrs old... I think it is happening now. I feel it! I have always believed there should only be love but it is very contrary to what I see now... Love will prevail however... no matter how far away it seems

[Jacqui D]

although my experiences with these two reps were not good i do not think all reps are bad.
As in humanity there are good and bad this i feel is the same with reps.
I have heard it said that reps help humans not all have an agenda to be killers, flesh eaters as it has been known.
I am just stating this is what happened to me the purpose of this attack was a pay back scenario as in true predator style he marked himself also a bit like the notch on the bedpost!
I have lost the anger i felt i am focussing on love for all creatures now as i said before there are good and bad in all.

[Moxie]

I have read it all, from voice to skull technologies and also Matthew Delooze's "take" that his experience w/abduction by reps complete w/tortuous experience was implanted in his mind, because, as is his take, some of us are harder 'nuts to crack' in the mind control realm, thus technologies are used to convince us. I'm aware of all such "takes"... and, especially in Matthew's view, I had to give it to him, his view is a novel one... how clever can clever be?

Still, I await Lionhawks offerings of methods of protection from such invasions. Whether rep contact is real or fabricated, they are STILL first hand experiences by those that perceived them, complete w/physical 3D senses receptions, the whole niners.

This thread was started w/an appeal ONLY to those that have first hand experiences to post here... I'm asking Lionhawk for his/ner information of viable protection techniques or whatever he/she has to offer, as it the purpose of Lionhawk stated in the other thread of 'counter intel'... assistance, help, protection.

It's obvious that people will not post their personal experiences here... so may we get solution oriented?

[Moxie]

Try all you want to convince someone that their experience was not real. If you have not had experiences, then you do not hold the criteria to participate in this thread and it is unkind to joke about it.

[Moxie]

I have had experiences as well... I was merely mentioning that I have considered 'mind control' as a viable explanation for these having happened... not that I know this, just that I've read it, another option.

My experiences were in and around the sleep state, not lucid dreams, but like Robert Monroe wrote about, oobe's and also hynogogic states... a reptilian was attached to my right arm, I saw the scaley flesh and claws, attached to me like superglue, could not shake it... I've been molested, quite real, but/but as Swerdlow writes about it, these are mostly astral entities.

I would like to know from those that have seen reptilians in total waking life... my experiences were always in or around the sleep state, some of which were quite terrifying... and, I do think that astral (live/awake in another realm) is a valid experience.

Swerdlow has told me personally that alot of the sacrificial and tortuous events DO in fact happen astrally, is why I ask for solid, awake, first hand experiences.

thank you

[Angel in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Moxie

I have had experiences as well... I was merely mentioning that I have considered 'mind control' as a viable explanation for these having happened... not that I know this, just that I've read it, another option.

My experiences were in and around the sleep state, not lucid dreams, but like Robert Monroe wrote about, oobe's and also hynogogic states... a reptilian was attached to my right arm, I saw the scaley flesh and claws, attached to me like superglue, could not shake it... I've been molested, quite real, but/but as Swerdlow writes about it, these are mostly astral entities.

I would like to know from those that have seen reptilians in total waking life... my experiences were always in or around the sleep state, some of which were quite terrifying... and, I do think that astral (live/awake in another realm) is a valid experience.

Swerdlow has told me personally that alot of the sacrificial and tortuous events DO in fact happen astrally, is why I ask for solid, awake, first hand experiences.

thank you

I was fully awake and under no 'influences'... Although I do have recuuring episodes of sleep paralysis where I receive messages and know that I am in a different realm at the time so try to extend the sleep paralysis as to receive more messages that are too quickly forgotten once I actually awaken... Does that make sense?