Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers

Moxie · 10-13-2009, 09:17 PM

I have had experiences as well... I was merely mentioning that I have considered 'mind control' as a viable explanation for these having happened... not that I know this, just that I've read it, another option.

My experiences were in and around the sleep state, not lucid dreams, but like Robert Monroe wrote about, oobe's and also hynogogic states... a reptilian was attached to my right arm, I saw the scaley flesh and claws, attached to me like superglue, could not shake it... I've been molested, quite real, but/but as Swerdlow writes about it, these are mostly astral entities.

I would like to know from those that have seen reptilians in total waking life... my experiences were always in or around the sleep state, some of which were quite terrifying... and, I do think that astral (live/awake in another realm) is a valid experience.

Swerdlow has told me personally that alot of the sacrificial and tortuous events DO in fact happen astrally, is why I ask for solid, awake, first hand experiences.

thank you

Angel in Disguise · 10-13-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Moxie

I have had experiences as well... I was merely mentioning that I have considered 'mind control' as a viable explanation for these having happened... not that I know this, just that I've read it, another option.

My experiences were in and around the sleep state, not lucid dreams, but like Robert Monroe wrote about, oobe's and also hynogogic states... a reptilian was attached to my right arm, I saw the scaley flesh and claws, attached to me like superglue, could not shake it... I've been molested, quite real, but/but as Swerdlow writes about it, these are mostly astral entities.

I would like to know from those that have seen reptilians in total waking life... my experiences were always in or around the sleep state, some of which were quite terrifying... and, I do think that astral (live/awake in another realm) is a valid experience.

Swerdlow has told me personally that alot of the sacrificial and tortuous events DO in fact happen astrally, is why I ask for solid, awake, first hand experiences.

thank you

I was fully awake and under no 'influences'... Although I do have recuuring episodes of sleep paralysis where I receive messages and know that I am in a different realm at the time so try to extend the sleep paralysis as to receive more messages that are too quickly forgotten once I actually awaken... Does that make sense?

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 09:22 PM

Lucid dreams were not my experience, i was wide awake, i dont do drugs of any kind so cannot blame them, it was real and the most horrific experience of my life.

Phtha · 10-13-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

What doctrine are you speaking of in regard to Lionhawk? I have not heard him once speak about being hopeless or in fear. He has simply said not to sit back and say we have already won, and thus do nothing.
Please quote what Lionhawk has said and where.

You already have a thread sharing your theory of mind control. Why hijack this thread and try to steer it in a direction which basically says those who have had experiences with Reps are deluded by some mind control agenda?

Unified I'm not high jacking anything I'm allowed to post when and where I want. I tell know one what to believe I merely share my opinions. Put me on ignore if it bothers you.

Just read lionhawks posts in the thread I started about reptiles and if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you. And also complain to him/her for hijacking it, although I don't agree that is the case.

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Originally Posted by Moxie

Try all you want to convince someone that their experience was not real. If you have not had experiences, then you do not hold the criteria to participate in this thread and it is unkind to joke about it.

Who is trying to convince people their experience is not real? I read through the posts, I must have missed it.

Moxie · 10-13-2009, 09:28 PM

Thank you Unified Serenity for this: "I was attacked one time in the physical having been brought out of sleep to fully awake. As I struggled to stop this attack, and before I could open my eyes, a voice which I recognized as a soul protector / guide told me to not open my eyes."

Exactly! Happened to me too that way... and invoking the highest level of inner power/guardians, it took flight! It was definitely weighted presence, held me down, powerfully, pain in both armpits...
And, I lost 2 hrs of time refusing to go to sleep again.. the clock measured 2 hrs previous time from the last check, that sort of thing...the most horrendous storm passed over the house and my mother & brother awakened to find me asleep on the living room floor (this was yrs ago, I was 23) and I didn't hear the terrible explosions of bowling ball thunder that woke them.

Moxie · 10-13-2009, 09:47 PM

Phtha wrote:.. "I was talking about this doctrine of hoplessness and fear that lionhawk and many others seems to believe without question. Anything that leaves a taste of fear in my mouth I doubt..." and ..."I'm allowed to post when and where I want."

perhaps you are allowed but you don't hold the criteria to take the invite that the thread specifically stated, so you are not bieng respectful of this new thread.

you wrote: "if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you"

ok, so you feel fear. Fear is not doctrine... lol.. give me a break.... fear is a hardwired emotion to indicate alarm... you are getting it 2nd hand, imagine how you'd chit your pants were it firsthand. Why are you hanging around for more ?

Apoligies, but I'm human and get annoyed at times.

Phtha · 10-13-2009, 09:59 PM

No apology necessary. I love heated debates myself, I often learn a lot from them.
Of course I feel fear, you are right it is hard wired. I am talking about the state of fear rather then the reaction of fear though. I'll try and be more clear.
The other day I was running down my usual route and right beside me a huge crashing sound was suddenly at my left. My heart jumped and the initial reaction was bear or something (I've seen a few on my runs before). But it was a couple of young deer just as frightened as I was. I can only imagine what it would be like to be confronted by something much worse.

Living in a state of fear, believing that the bear will jump out everytime I go running... that is what I am referring to... and that is a state I will not allow my self to live in. I have full control of that.

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Originally Posted by Moxie

perhaps you are allowed but you don't hold the criteria to take the invite that the thread specifically stated, so you are not bieng respectful of this new thread.

you wrote: "if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you"

ok, so you feel fear. Fear is not doctrine... lol.. give me a break.... fear is a hardwired emotion to indicate alarm... you are getting it 2nd hand, imagine how you'd chit your pants were it firsthand. Why are you hanging around for more ?

Apoligies, but I'm human and get annoyed at times.

Jacqui D · 10-13-2009, 10:06 PM

This was the mark i received i thought i would post it because of new members etc if your interested.

Matthew delooze kindly enhanced the last one for me i not very good with pc's and downloading stuff.

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 10:15 PM

This is the earth symbol, also known as the sun cross and solar cross. Mother earth.

Angel in Disguise · 10-13-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacqui D

This was the mark i received i thought i would post it because of new members etc if your interested.

Matthew delooze kindly enhanced the last one for me i not very good with pc's and downloading stuff.

Interesting... Do you know what it means?

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 10:16 PM

As above and also Hopi medicine wheel.

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 10:18 PM

Soory i forgot, also the norse sun symbol.

Jacqui D · 10-13-2009, 10:20 PM

I do that is all that matters, yes it is the earth sign also and it is the rosicrusion sign too.
I wanted it made clear my story was backed up with a picture of this mark so now i have posted it.

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 10:25 PM

My applause to you, most brave to show the signs that you have endured.

Jacqui D · 10-13-2009, 11:19 PM

Thank you Ammit your kind words have been taken on board.

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Originally Posted by Ammit

My applause to you, most brave to show the signs that you have endured.

Wormhole · 10-13-2009, 10:27 PM

I've had two experiences. One wide awake, 25 years ago. I saw a Rep in my room with me. It's like being in a cage with a tiger that is about to spring. I was very afraid. It smiled or grimaced at me. It's knees were very bent and it was in a springing position, only about three feet from me. I had a very good view of it. It simply vanished after several seconds.

The last experience was last winter. There were two Reps, both had false skin on their faces and were pretending to be human skiers. One asked me if I wanted to see it's eyes, I said yes. It showed me and then pealed back a layer of skin and showed me the scales underneath. The scales were pale, not dark like before. I felt that these two may have been half-bred with humans. I was not afraid this time.

They showed me a creature that had a very warped skull. A human? Not sure. I was asked if this creature deserved to be loved. I responded that all creatures deserved love and were loved by god. This seemed to satisfy them, and they left.

Peace of Mind through the Heart,
Wormhole

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 10:34 PM

It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

Angel in Disguise · 10-13-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammit

It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

Cheers to that

Wormhole · 10-13-2009, 10:45 PM

About that symbol. It is also the symbol of those who are born on the summer solstice, which ironically is also the symbol of my birth. I was very interested to see it here.

Worm

Phtha · 10-13-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammit

It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

Good point Ammit. It's always important to remember that we are all on the same side here, despite our differences of opinion.
well... unless some of you are working against the human race, then I'm not on ur side.

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Originally Posted by Wormhole

About that symbol. It is also the symbol of those who are born on the summer solstice, which ironically is also the symbol of my birth. I was very interested to see it here.

Worm

Yah it represented a lot of things to the ancients, a powerful symbol, some that I recall. 4 seasons, 4 cardinal points, 4 cardinal virtues, 4 limbs, 4 elements, 4 races..

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 11:05 PM

Quote [Good point Ammit. It's always important to remember that we are all on the same side here, despite our differences of opinion.
well... unless some of you are working against the human race, then I'm not on ur side. ] PHTHA

Difference of oppinion is life my friend, no mortal thinks the same nore wants the same. We all live and think differently because we are, different.

So, if others are working against the human race, then.... you are not on MY side.?
Well i dont want you on my side , I want you to take care of your own side, look after number one first, then look to helping others. I have one side my friend, the human race and my concerns for it.

Ammit

Moxie · 10-13-2009, 10:52 PM

Phtha wrote: "...Living in a state of fear, believing that the bear will jump out everytime I go running... that is what I am referring to... and that is a state I will not allow my self to live in."

Well then, do not surmise that we live in that state. I will tell you that my experiences did happen but I do not live in a state of fear because of that... you have taken that assumption about "us"... but I will mention that I perceive your "care", a protective mention from you in your remark above... thank you, maybe you should have stated your stance in that measure before.

That's a "given" okay? That said... I will offer that these experiences have not happened to me since I was in my 30's.. was it a result of denial?... a result of rebuke?... dunno... this thread is about sharing experiences.

I actually hired someone, $200 for 90 minutes consult because I suspected my military upbringing to be the avenue that I was manipulated... okay, so I was a dumb-asss.. nevermind... we look for answers... it was along my path toward dependence on my own inner thread to Truth, which I will admit, is now a "knowing", not a belief.

I am not worried, nor do I live in fear. Fear happens but it's not my foundational life premise, far from it. I have enough conviction that fear does not reside ...

yet I'm not defective enough to think that fear will not appear in my 3D experience, nor that I will find myself immune from it.

Might as well mention, that too, I have had many, numerous experiences of high lighted, sure footed affirmatives in this life to way exceed these few frightful experiences... I am not "had".

thank you for hearing me.

Phtha · 10-13-2009, 11:03 PM

Thanks Moxie, I didn't mean to imply that anyone in particular was living in that state, I can see how I came off that way though so I appreciate the opportunity to clear that up. I try to post as best I can without making it personal for anyone. (I fail often as I menetioned lionhawk in this thread already) Not easy as I'm sure we are all aware. Also it is so often easy to pick up the wrong emotions when reading text as we are missing a lot of what communication involves, sound and sight, and smell too sometimes.

I think this thread is great and I am very curious to hear as much as possible on the subject. I thank everyone for sharing what they have so far.

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Originally Posted by Moxie

Well then, do not surmise that we live in that state. I will tell you that my experiences did happen but I do not live in a state of fear because of that... you have taken that assumption about "us"... but I will mention that I perceive your "care", a protective mention from you in your remark above... thank you, maybe you should have stated your stance in that measure before.

That's a "given" okay? That said... I will offer that these experiences have not happened to me since I was in my 30's.. was it a result of denial?... a result of rebuke?... dunno... this thread is about sharing experiences.

Unified Serenity · 10-13-2009, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moxie

Thank you Unified Serenity for this: "I was attacked one time in the physical having been brought out of sleep to fully awake. As I struggled to stop this attack, and before I could open my eyes, a voice which I recognized as a soul protector / guide told me to not open my eyes."

Exactly! Happened to me too that way... and invoking the highest level of inner power/guardians, it took flight! It was definitely weighted presence, held me down, powerfully, pain in both armpits...
And, I lost 2 hrs of time refusing to go to sleep again.. the clock measured 2 hrs previous time from the last check, that sort of thing...the most horrendous storm passed over the house and my mother & brother awakened to find me asleep on the living room floor (this was yrs ago, I was 23) and I didn't hear the terrible explosions of bowling ball thunder that woke them.

I was also about 23 at the time of that attack. The feeling reminded me of a great pressure one would feel if deep in the ocean. It was like being taken from surface to 300 ft down in a second. I couldn't breath, I could not move and all I could do was work energetically. It was such a heavy weight on me like it would crush me to death. I do think it had planned on me opening my eyes and causing some sort of heart attack or something that would kill me.

Obviously it did not work.

Ammit · 10-14-2009, 12:07 AM

Just when people were being honest it stops, oh sorry 1AM. Yes i think i will join you sensible people in bed time.

10-13-2009, 09:17 PM	#1
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers I have had experiences as well... I was merely mentioning that I have considered 'mind control' as a viable explanation for these having happened... not that I know this, just that I've read it, another option. My experiences were in and around the sleep state, not lucid dreams, but like Robert Monroe wrote about, oobe's and also hynogogic states... a reptilian was attached to my right arm, I saw the scaley flesh and claws, attached to me like superglue, could not shake it... I've been molested, quite real, but/but as Swerdlow writes about it, these are mostly astral entities. I would like to know from those that have seen reptilians in total waking life... my experiences were always in or around the sleep state, some of which were quite terrifying... and, I do think that astral (live/awake in another realm) is a valid experience. Swerdlow has told me personally that alot of the sacrificial and tortuous events DO in fact happen astrally, is why I ask for solid, awake, first hand experiences. thank you

10-13-2009, 09:22 PM	#3
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Lucid dreams were not my experience, i was wide awake, i dont do drugs of any kind so cannot blame them, it was real and the most horrific experience of my life.

10-13-2009, 09:28 PM	#5
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Thank you Unified Serenity for this: "I was attacked one time in the physical having been brought out of sleep to fully awake. As I struggled to stop this attack, and before I could open my eyes, a voice which I recognized as a soul protector / guide told me to not open my eyes." Exactly! Happened to me too that way... and invoking the highest level of inner power/guardians, it took flight! It was definitely weighted presence, held me down, powerfully, pain in both armpits... And, I lost 2 hrs of time refusing to go to sleep again.. the clock measured 2 hrs previous time from the last check, that sort of thing...the most horrendous storm passed over the house and my mother & brother awakened to find me asleep on the living room floor (this was yrs ago, I was 23) and I didn't hear the terrible explosions of bowling ball thunder that woke them.

10-13-2009, 09:47 PM	#6
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Phtha wrote:.. "I was talking about this doctrine of hoplessness and fear that lionhawk and many others seems to believe without question. Anything that leaves a taste of fear in my mouth I doubt..." and ..."I'm allowed to post when and where I want." perhaps you are allowed but you don't hold the criteria to take the invite that the thread specifically stated, so you are not bieng respectful of this new thread. you wrote: "if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you" ok, so you feel fear. Fear is not doctrine... lol.. give me a break.... fear is a hardwired emotion to indicate alarm... you are getting it 2nd hand, imagine how you'd chit your pants were it firsthand. Why are you hanging around for more ? Apoligies, but I'm human and get annoyed at times.

10-13-2009, 10:06 PM	#8
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers This was the mark i received i thought i would post it because of new members etc if your interested. Matthew delooze kindly enhanced the last one for me i not very good with pc's and downloading stuff.

10-13-2009, 10:15 PM	#9
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers This is the earth symbol, also known as the sun cross and solar cross. Mother earth.

10-13-2009, 10:16 PM	#11
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers As above and also Hopi medicine wheel.

10-13-2009, 10:18 PM	#12
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Soory i forgot, also the norse sun symbol.

10-13-2009, 10:20 PM	#13
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers I do that is all that matters, yes it is the earth sign also and it is the rosicrusion sign too. I wanted it made clear my story was backed up with a picture of this mark so now i have posted it.

10-13-2009, 10:25 PM	#14
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers My applause to you, most brave to show the signs that you have endured.

10-13-2009, 10:27 PM	#16
Wormhole Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 506	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers I've had two experiences. One wide awake, 25 years ago. I saw a Rep in my room with me. It's like being in a cage with a tiger that is about to spring. I was very afraid. It smiled or grimaced at me. It's knees were very bent and it was in a springing position, only about three feet from me. I had a very good view of it. It simply vanished after several seconds. The last experience was last winter. There were two Reps, both had false skin on their faces and were pretending to be human skiers. One asked me if I wanted to see it's eyes, I said yes. It showed me and then pealed back a layer of skin and showed me the scales underneath. The scales were pale, not dark like before. I felt that these two may have been half-bred with humans. I was not afraid this time. They showed me a creature that had a very warped skull. A human? Not sure. I was asked if this creature deserved to be loved. I responded that all creatures deserved love and were loved by god. This seemed to satisfy them, and they left. Peace of Mind through the Heart, Wormhole Last edited by Wormhole; 10-14-2009 at 12:45 AM.

10-13-2009, 10:34 PM	#17
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

10-13-2009, 10:45 PM	#19
Wormhole Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 506	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers About that symbol. It is also the symbol of those who are born on the summer solstice, which ironically is also the symbol of my birth. I was very interested to see it here. Worm

10-13-2009, 11:05 PM	#21
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Quote [Good point Ammit. It's always important to remember that we are all on the same side here, despite our differences of opinion. well... unless some of you are working against the human race, then I'm not on ur side. ] PHTHA Difference of oppinion is life my friend, no mortal thinks the same nore wants the same. We all live and think differently because we are, different. So, if others are working against the human race, then.... you are not on MY side.? Well i dont want you on my side , I want you to take care of your own side, look after number one first, then look to helping others. I have one side my friend, the human race and my concerns for it. Ammit

10-13-2009, 10:52 PM	#22
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Phtha wrote: "...Living in a state of fear, believing that the bear will jump out everytime I go running... that is what I am referring to... and that is a state I will not allow my self to live in." Well then, do not surmise that we live in that state. I will tell you that my experiences did happen but I do not live in a state of fear because of that... you have taken that assumption about "us"... but I will mention that I perceive your "care", a protective mention from you in your remark above... thank you, maybe you should have stated your stance in that measure before. That's a "given" okay? That said... I will offer that these experiences have not happened to me since I was in my 30's.. was it a result of denial?... a result of rebuke?... dunno... this thread is about sharing experiences. I actually hired someone, $200 for 90 minutes consult because I suspected my military upbringing to be the avenue that I was manipulated... okay, so I was a dumb-asss.. nevermind... we look for answers... it was along my path toward dependence on my own inner thread to Truth, which I will admit, is now a "knowing", not a belief. I am not worried, nor do I live in fear. Fear happens but it's not my foundational life premise, far from it. I have enough conviction that fear does not reside ... yet I'm not defective enough to think that fear will not appear in my 3D experience, nor that I will find myself immune from it. Might as well mention, that too, I have had many, numerous experiences of high lighted, sure footed affirmatives in this life to way exceed these few frightful experiences... I am not "had". thank you for hearing me.

10-14-2009, 12:07 AM	#25
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Just when people were being honest it stops, oh sorry 1AM. Yes i think i will join you sensible people in bed time.