Where Are We on 9-11 Truth?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Is there another? Yes that is her
And I remember when her website first came out..it was constantly going down...imagine that

Yes, there is another person that I have in my mind's eye, that I associate with her name in the truth movement, regarding what happened with the towers. So far I haven't located a picture of her and the old website pages I used to see on the net. This would have been in 2006 or 2007.

When I first looked at the above picture, I thought it's not the same person. But the more I think about it, maybe it is her, with a new look!

I'm curious.

What I remember is a person who was struggling with the scientific community to be taken seriously, and suffering a lot of ridicule. I remember a video of her in a discussion with a rather self-important physicist, and the video ended on a very sour note, with the physicist intimating that she didn't know what she was talking about.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Yes, there is another person that I have in my mind's eye, that I associate with her name in the truth movement, regarding what happened with the towers. So far I haven't located a picture of her and the old website pages I used to see on the net. This would have been in 2006 or 2007.

When I first looked at the above picture, I thought it's not the same person. But the more I think about it, maybe it is her, with a new look!

I'm curious.

What I remember is a person who was struggling with the scientific community to be taken seriously, and suffering a lot of ridicule. I remember a video of her in a discussion with a rather self-important physicist, and the video ended on a very sour note, with the physicist intimating that she didn't know what she was talking about.

Well..it's her..and she has done extensive research...and TPTB do not like it that's for sure

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Well..it's her..and she has done extensive research...and TPTB do not like it that's for sure

Is she standing alone or does she have allies?

[manticore]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Is she standing alone or does she have allies?

At least she has an ally in me. I'm glad I took the chance to interview her. My job (a matter of principle) is to cover every angle and her angle is the one that has convinced me the most. Our job is to discern and draw our own conclusions. I just don't like it when people ignore someone before looking at their work.

Mel

[Smickle1111]

Cant wait for jesse ventura's truTV on 9/11!!

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by Smickle1111

Cant wait for jesse ventura's truTV on 9/11!!

Is this online?

[Sideshow Shaman]

Originally Posted by Smickle1111

Cant wait for jesse ventura's truTV on 9/11!!

9/11 Truth is now on mainstream TV!

If there weren't so much other crazy stuff going on, this would be huge news. A well known former soldier and governor presenting truthful information about 9/11 on TV!

The show has proven to be so popular that the network is rerunning it frequently at the moment. Happened upon it over the weekend & it really is a respectable program.

All this on a network called "TruTV". This network is relatively new but has "made it's bones" by showing more episodes of COPS than even the FOX network. Therefore i refer to it as mainstream TV. And word from the North American countryside is... the program is being noticed.

This is what is required to happen before widespread public acknowledgment. Are we (just about) there yet?

Check it out online, here: http://www.911blogger.com/node/22131

[no caste]

Seashore - I thought this was a very good article about the political background in the area.
________________________________

PIPELINE TO 911
By Rudo de Ruijter, Independent Researcher
Netherlands - August 2006
...However, if we stick to the facts, and throw out all the information that comes from unverifiable sources, our world looks very different. This research article is intended to reveal the facts that lead to the US invasion of Afghanistan and to reveal the logical place of the 9/11 events in that context. It is not meant to offend anyone. Don't read it if you are pleased with the "official" version of our history.

Immediately after 9/11 president Bush declared war to Afghanistan...
http://www.viewzone.com/pipeline.html

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Yes, there is another person that I have in my mind's eye, that I associate with her name in the truth movement, regarding what happened with the towers. So far I haven't located a picture of her and the old website pages I used to see on the net. This would have been in 2006 or 2007.

When I first looked at the above picture, I thought it's not the same person. But the more I think about it, maybe it is her, with a new look!

I'm curious.

What I remember is a person who was struggling with the scientific community to be taken seriously, and suffering a lot of ridicule. I remember a video of her in a discussion with a rather self-important physicist, and the video ended on a very sour note, with the physicist intimating that she didn't know what she was talking about.

Here's the picture I had in my mind's eye. I found it. This is also Judy Wood, taken from her website:

[mntruthseeker]

Just when I thought that I was past the point of being fooled. LOL

Its really sad to think of how we are / were so easily mislead

My husband just asked if I wanted to watch the Presidents message and I told him , yeah right. He didnt listen because he now doesnt believe either

Personally, I'm not so sure we have a president...legally anyhow

I heard Freeman say once, Bush was the last American president and I think he may of been right on that point.

[no caste]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

I heard Freeman say once, Bush was the last American president and I think he may of been right on that point.

If you consider fraudulent elections (electronic ballots etc arranged by Papa Bush, they say), it might have to go back to 1996. IMO it was over in 2000. Bush wasn't the last President. That was Bill Clinton.

Also, from Dr Judy Wood: In case you are not aware of it, this is the first page of my submission to NIST. In particular, read the ones addressing the sound issue. It illuminates the false choice of NIST vs. thermite/bombs.
http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/WTC7a.html

Another quote: Yes, "Osama Bin Thermite and the Microspheres" are being heavily promoted with big dollars. Perhaps it is to drown out the release of my book to muddle up the message? My book contains absolute proof of what happened on 9/11/01 that is not debunkable. So, the opposition has reason to be going on their biggest propaganda tour.

I'm looking forward to the book.

[TheObserver]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Just when I thought that I was past the point of being fooled. LOL

Its really sad to think of how we are / were so easily mislead

My husband just asked if I wanted to watch the Presidents message and I told him , yeah right. He didnt listen because he now doesnt believe either

Personally, I'm not so sure we have a president...legally anyhow

I heard Freeman say once, Bush was the last American president and I think he may of been right on that point.

I listened to speech, it didn't sound any different from the ones GW Bush gave unfortunately.
When he began with "8 years ago on september 11" even i had to roll my eyes.

[micjer]

9/11 Weather Anomalies and Field Effects
(page 1)

by

Judy Wood

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/erin1.html






Dr Wood has linked together her theory of what really happened on 9-11 to the WTC and to hurricane Erin.

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by TheObserver

I listened to speech, it didn't sound any different from the ones GW Bush gave unfortunately.
When he began with "8 years ago on september 11" even i had to roll my eyes.

Imagine that Freeman and GW Bush knew what they were talking about and it was US that didnt get the jest of it and they were both right


In fact, didn't GW then made that awful joke about dictorship? IMO that is exactly what ust transpired..............we were already NWO and he was our dictator.

[micjer]

Has anyone seen this on Judy's website. It shows the steel turning to dust.

Amazing how she has put the pieces together.

Check out figure 37 on this page.

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/D...WarsBeam3.html

[micjer]

The government maintains that the Twin Towers were each hit by aircraft and the subsequent fires weakened the steel in the upper stories, initiating a gravity-driven "pancake collapse," as illustrated in Figure 30. There are many problems with this hypothesis. The most obvious problem with it is the near free-fall speed of the destruction of these buildings (see Billiard Balls). A second problem is the paucity of remaining material. Where are the concrete floors? Where is the office furniture? Where is the office machinery? Where are the filing cabinets? Where is the wall board? Where are the bookcases? They were not there, so most of it appears to have turned to dust.



An illustration of what a "pancake collapse" would look like. The rubble pile should be at least 1/8 of the original building height (12.5%).





An illustration of what the actual destruction looked like. The rubble pile was no more than 2% of the original building height. Both towers went "poof."



http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/D...WarsBeam3.html

[Tango]

I thought the 9-11 thang was all done.....

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=16368

The QRS 11 Chip.... Well we finished with it...


Trooly,

Tango

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by micjer

Has anyone seen this on Judy's website. It shows the steel turning to dust.

Amazing how she has put the pieces together.

Check out figure 37 on this page.

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/D...WarsBeam3.html

That clips shows dust coated steel falling away and leaving the dust behind. Not steel turning to dust. There is no emprical evidence to draw a conclusion baout that clip.

[micjer]

I am open to all theories, and there is evidence that the thermite theory is correct. However, I am not going to say that Dr Wood does not have science behind her theory. To say that she has no science would be to deny the fact that directed energy weapons do not exist. Well I 100% certain that they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon

A directed-energy weapon (DEW) is a type of weapon that emits energy in an aimed direction without the means of a projectile. It transfers energy to a target for a desired effect. Some of these weapons are real or in development;

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by micjer

I am open to all theories, and there is evidence that the thermite theory is correct. However, I am not going to say that Dr Wood does not have science behind her theory. To say that she has no science would be to deny the fact that directed energy weapons do not exist. Well I 100% certain that they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon

I never said energy weapons do not exist. I am saying that her observations from that day can be interpreted in different ways. There have been base tests for thermite. There have been no base test of energy weapons. At the moment, the nano-thermite angle is the best chance of getting 9/11 re-investigated and isnt that after all, what it is all about?

[micjer]

Yes I do agree. It needs to be reinvestigated, and hard evidence (that was quickly put into containers and sent to China) is what is required to get results.

Most disasters sit with caution tape around it for a period of time until investigators do their thing. Heck the dust hadn't even settled and they were carting it out of there. More proof that it was all premeditated.

The only smoking gun with the beam weapon theory may be in what melted and deformed the vehicles? Is there a way of proving they were done with microwave energy? Certainly very bizarre.





Why does this ambulance have melted inside doors? The inside looks to have suffered more heat damage than the outside. What would cause that?






http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/JJ/JJ1.html

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by micjer

Yes I do agree. It needs to be reinvestigated, and hard evidence (that was quickly put into containers and sent to China) is what is required to get results.

Most disasters sit with caution tape around it for a period of time until investigators do their thing. Heck the dust hadn't even settled and they were carting it out of there. More proof that it was all premeditated.

The only smoking gun with the beam weapon theory may be in what melted and deformed the vehicles? Is there a way of proving they were done with microwave energy? Certainly very bizarre.





Why does this ambulance have melted inside doors? The inside looks to have suffered more heat damage than the outside. What would cause that?








http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/JJ/JJ1.html

Here is an hypothosis:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/15847


Interview with Judy Wood and breakdown of interview: (she evades lots of questions and is very vague and her evidence is faulty and does not seem to know what she is talking about)

http://www.911blogger.com/node/8110

Also read this:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/v...ry-Jenkins.pdf

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

Here is an hypothosis:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/15847


Interview with Judy Wood and breakdown of interview: (she evades lots of questions and is very vague and her evidence is faulty and does not seem to know what she is talking about)

http://www.911blogger.com/node/8110

Also read this:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/v...ry-Jenkins.pdf

any comments?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

any comments?

I am reading everyone's posts but I'll defer to others. I have not listened to Judy Wood recently; I only remember her from a couple of years ago.

I started this thread because of the allegation that there are disloyal Americans - paid disinfo agents - within the truth movement!

That is what concerns me. That's the allegation that I'm trying to clear up. What will it take to do that?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Seashore

I am reading everyone's posts but I'll defer to others. I have not listened to Judy Wood recently; I only remember her from a couple of years ago.

I started this thread because of the allegation that there are disloyal Americans - paid disinfo agents - within the truth movement!

That is what concerns me. That's the allegation that I'm trying to clear up. What will it take to do that?

Is it not true that it is being alleged by anyone that within the 9-11 truth movement there are paid disinfo agents?