Questions for the 'Healers'

[Scarab]

@morganlilith, connecting with sauce

I am not directing these questions toward people who give physical treatments outside normal AMA guidelines.

I am addressing the individuals who say that they can heal a stranger from a great distance with (or without depending on who you ask) a first name, basic location and permission from the patient using only the power of thought or love.

[morganlilith]

Originally Posted by Scarab

@morganlilith, connecting with sauce

I am not directing these questions toward people who give physical treatments outside normal AMA guidelines.

I am addressing the individuals who say that they can heal a stranger from a great distance with (or without depending on who you ask) a first name, basic location and permission from the patient using only the power of thought or love.

i DO do healing work over a distance. and all the things i said about my work apply to distance work as well as in person work.

much of the distance work i do is on a pay it forward basis. but i have also worked as part of an online venue where people do schedule appointments for distance work, and pay for it.

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by morganlilith

i DO do healing work over a distance. and all the things i said about my work apply to distance work as well as in person work.

much of the distance work i do is on a pay it forward basis. but i have also worked as part of an online venue where people do schedule appointments for distance work, and pay for it.

I misunderstood. Thank you.

[morganlilith]

Originally Posted by Scarab

I misunderstood. Thank you.

i guess i am still confused about what you are trying to get at.

is it the distance issue you're having a difficult time with?

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by morganlilith

i guess i am still confused about what you are trying to get at.

I'm sorry. I thought I was clear.

Healing doesn't work this way (IMO).

[morganlilith]

Originally Posted by Scarab

I'm sorry. I thought I was clear.

Healing doesn't work this way (IMO).

you are welcome to your opinion as i am welcome to mine.

i have received feedback that people have had positive results when i have done distance healing sessions for them. as well, i have felt positive results when people have done distance work for me.

it's a matter of how energy works. a lot of people choose to not believe that accupuncture works. even though there is medical evidence that it does. it's just outside our dominant paradigm.

if i didn't have experience with it, i might not believe it would work either.

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by morganlilith

it's a matter of how energy works.

Please explain. I'm all ears.

[morganlilith]

Originally Posted by Scarab

Please explain. I'm all ears.

see, there's your issue.

i don't believe that i can explain it in a way that you will accept.
it's an experiential thing, and it's subtle. if you are convinced that it's not going to work, or if you don't know what to pay attention for, you will likely not feel it.

if you are sincerely interested in learning about energy medicine, i would recommend the book 'vibraional medicine' by gerber. written by a dr who set out to debunk all this energy gobbledegook via 'real science' and ended up convincing himself it was real instead. it's probably been out at least 20 years but i think it is still relevant. and i would assume it's still available. any of the works of dr deepak chopra, also. 'quantum healing' being a good place for doubters to start.

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by morganlilith

i don't believe that i can explain it in a way that you will accept.

You're right. Seeing is believing.

[Frank Samuel]

The solfeggio frequencies and binaural frequencies from my own experience are real and quite effective . A few years back I was diagnosed with black lungs as in cancer of the lungs , damaged heart and extreme bone decay mainly in my left hip. My last x-ray that I took after 3 years of solfeggio and binaural frequencies therapy indicated that my lungs had cleared completely , my left hip show minor bone decay. The x-ray technician after I explain the reason why I was having the x-ray done just shook her head in disbelief as to say that I was pulling her leg for all the symptoms I mention to her where no longer visible in the x-ray. Before I barely could sleep because I could not breath, now I sleep like a baby. These frequencies are free and can be found posted all over the internet. It is my hope that it can help you also. Remember that our bodies can heal itself if we know how to activate the correct frequencies . Everything in the universe emits a frequency, even the food we eat. Modern medicine is a business , many people have turn to the shaman of the amazons to find cures and natural medicines. I believe the future of medicine will be 100% more effective and people will live to be about 150 yrs. . Will this be a good thing for the ptb ? Lets see if I retire at 62 yrs. old and I collect social security for 100 yrs. this can become a real problem. Thus the reason why just about every single remedy we take has secondary unpleasant effects . Pharmaceuticals are a strong healthy business. PR is a paradise for a lot of pharmaceuticals , and fertilizer companies like mosanto.

[mntruthseeker]

GFY Frank

Once when I was up and moving around more after laying in bed for so long my legs and muscels were so weak The pain was gone but I had alot of work to do and I was still on oxygen and I was still having speractic chest pains

I was listening to the Soffegio tunes with my headset on and I nearly threw them across the room I got so scare and here is why

It felt like the burning heat of two large hands reached into my chest and spread my chest open and my heart started beating like crazy. I told myself to calm down and just relax, (at least I think it was me saying that )

Afterwards I no longer had the chest pains that I had been experiencing for such a long long time. I am still estactic over this. To me it was truly a miracle.

I never heard of anything like this happening to anyone else that I have ever knew until you today

Thanks for sharing your story.

[371]

There is a lot to be said for "the placebo effect"...

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by 371

There is a lot to be said for "the placebo effect"...

Or the power of suggestion.

Both are a double edged sword that cuts both ways.

A placebo, whilst being scientifically "null" is not in the large scheme of things. Science overlooks the conciousness angle, and the power of intent.

When a Doctor prescribes something that he knows to be a placebo, he is INTENDING to heal his patient - and often that is all that is required.

A..

[morganlilith]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Or the power of suggestion.

Both are a double edged sword that cuts both ways.

A placebo, whilst being scientifically "null" is not in the large scheme of things. Science overlooks the conciousness angle, and the power of intent.

When a Doctor prescribes something that he knows to be a placebo, he is INTENDING to heal his patient - and often that is all that is required.

A..

yes. energy follows intent. or focus, as it's often said around these parts.

if the intent of the dr/practitioner and the belief of the patient/client allowed for healing to happen, healing happened. and healing IS the desired result, regardless of the methods used to get there. at least IMO.

yet people talk about the placebo effect as if it was a bad thing, or somehow invalidates the fact that healing occured.

[371]

Originally Posted by morganlilith

yet people talk about the placebo effect as if it was a bad thing, or somehow invalidates the fact that healing occured.

Not a bad thing at all. Just calling a spade a spade.

[Shairia]

The Placebo Effect is interesting because even MDs rely on it quite frequently.

[Frank Samuel]

You are welcome Mtruthseeker. I told the story to my friends , yet we are condition to believe that anything so simple that is not a pill or an injection can cure us or help us maintain our health. One of my friends who is an engineer and likes experimenting with new things try it out for a while but freak out because his legs kept vibrating and he kept picking up his cell phone thinking that someone was playing a joke on him. The best I can describe the effects of the frequencies are like getting a brain and mind tune up. I have never pay a single cent for the frequencies they are posted free of charge in you tube. There's serious studies conducted in many universities across the world on resonance , there are thesis upon thesis, measuring devices etc... Even Dr. Peterson talked about frequencies. Every single thing in the universe emits a frequency. The effectiveness of the frequencies are real.

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

You are welcome Mtruthseeker. I told the story to my friends , yet we are condition to believe that anything so simple that is not a pill or an injection can cure us or help us maintain our health. One of my friends who is an engineer and likes experimenting with new things try it out for a while but freak out because his legs kept vibrating and he kept picking up his cell phone thinking that someone was playing a joke on him. The best I can describe the effects of the frequencies are like getting a brain and mind tune up. I have never pay a single cent for the frequencies they are posted free of charge in you tube. There's serious studies conducted in many universities across the world on resonance , there are thesis upon thesis, measuring devices etc... Even Dr. Peterson talked about frequencies. Every single thing in the universe emits a frequency. The effectiveness of the frequencies are real.

Hi Frank : I am very interested in frequency healing & have know about it before anyone else had ever heard of it. Could you share please how many times a day you listened, for how long, and what was the total length of your healing program....I sometimes listen to solfeggio, & would like to experiment with healing an issue I have. You can pm me if you wish, so as not to distract this thread. Blessings.

[mntruthseeker]

Hey Frank

I listened to Solffegio for almost a year and that is the first time it effected me so much.

I wanted to show you which one I was listening to as it was for the heart and when this is the first time I had ever heard it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgMQOAWeVs0

[micjer]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Hey Frank

I listened to Solffegio for almost a year and that is the first time it effected me so much.

I wanted to show you which one I was listening to as it was for the heart and when this is the first time I had ever heard it

Wow. Put the earphones on and turn it up a bit. Amazing.

[mntruthseeker]

[QUOTE=morganlilith;207393]you are welcome to your opinion as i am welcome to mine.

About 16 years ago I met a woman on line that was a Reiki Master and also trained by a Shaman that taught me a few things on a daily basis

She told me things about energy and healing but I didnt fully comprehend but I do know she had so much to do with saving my grandson. She was in Brampton Canada at the time and we are in Minnesota. She was my special angel. For that reason alone I do understand skeptics as I was also

I know how long distance healing works and I have "felt" her touch through the internet.

I lost contact with her and not even sure if she is still with us but I wish I could tell her that I now understand. It truly is hard to explain.

Thanks for the reference to the book as I am going to try and get it as I am interested in furthering my education on all of this

You are Blessed

[Sideshow Shaman]

Originally Posted by Scarab

I'm sorry. I thought I was clear.

Healing doesn't work this way (IMO).

If this seems like a logical response, then Scarab is not honestly asking questions. This entire thread is just bait.

[14 Chakras]

Originally Posted by Sideshow Shaman

If this seems like a logical response, then Scarab is not honestly asking questions. This entire thread is just bait.

The thread's been interesting. No one owns a thread. There have been many people share interesting takes on healing in this thread as well as experiences. When someone is looking for a reaction, or we're expecting to change their minds, just move on, ain't gonna happen. But there are good discussions to be had with the many members in this forum who are not trying to bring others down and rather just share their journey and experiences in the search for truth.

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by Sideshow Shaman

If this seems like a logical response, then Scarab is not honestly asking questions. This entire thread is just bait.

A forum full of 'healers'. A thread asking them some simple questions.

No answers to the questions (except Anchor).

Nobody willing to actually HEAL someone to put the matter to rest.

Two so-called healers have deleted their claims and run away in shame.

And your conclusion is that I'm dishonest.

Your powers of discernment are lacking.

[14 Chakras]

Originally Posted by Scarab

A forum full of 'healers'. A thread asking them some simple questions. No answers to the questions (except Anchor). Nobody willing to actually HEAL someone to put the matter to rest.

And your conclusion is that I'm dishonest.

Your powers of discernment are lacking.

There's a difference between someone who can help others heal, who can help others bring out their own healing from within themselves, and a full Christ Being miracle worker.

Should have titled this thread: A Question for fully enlightened Christ Being Miracle Workers ~ Can you instantly heal a full school of sick children?

That would have been a more honest approach to what you are trying to figure out here.

I don't think anyone has claimed to be a fully enlightened Christ Being Miracle Worker that can heal a school full of sick children instantly by the power of thought.

Be more straightforward, and we can save ourselves the trouble of a lot of back and forth.