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Old 12-23-2009, 04:45 AM   #1
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If this seems like a logical response, then Scarab is not honestly asking questions. This entire thread is just bait.

A forum full of 'healers'. A thread asking them some simple questions.

No answers to the questions (except Anchor).

Nobody willing to actually HEAL someone to put the matter to rest.

Two so-called healers have deleted their claims and run away in shame.

And your conclusion is that I'm dishonest.

Your powers of discernment are lacking.
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:56 AM   #2
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A forum full of 'healers'. A thread asking them some simple questions. No answers to the questions (except Anchor). Nobody willing to actually HEAL someone to put the matter to rest.

And your conclusion is that I'm dishonest.

Your powers of discernment are lacking.
There's a difference between someone who can help others heal, who can help others bring out their own healing from within themselves, and a full Christ Being miracle worker.

Should have titled this thread: A Question for fully enlightened Christ Being Miracle Workers ~ Can you instantly heal a full school of sick children?

That would have been a more honest approach to what you are trying to figure out here.

I don't think anyone has claimed to be a fully enlightened Christ Being Miracle Worker that can heal a school full of sick children instantly by the power of thought.

Be more straightforward, and we can save ourselves the trouble of a lot of back and forth.
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:59 AM   #3
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There's a difference between someone who can help others heal, who can help bring out their own healing from within themselves, and a full Christ Being miracle worker.

Should have titled this thread: A Question for fully enlightened Christ Being Miracle Workers ~ Can you instantly heal a full school of sick children?

That would have been a more honest approach to what you are trying to figure out here.

I don't think anyone has claimed to be a fully enlightened Christ Being Miracle Worker that can heal a school full of sick children instantly by the power of thought.

Be more straightforward, and we can save yourself the trouble of a lot of back and forth.
I asked if they could walk into a hospital and heal someone. The answers I recieved were a small yes with a big BUT (add disclaimer of choice here).

YET.

They still say they can heal someone long distance with nothing more than a first name.

WHY?

How much more straightforward can I be?
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:01 AM   #4
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I don't think anyone has said they can always heal someone from long distance with only a first name, especially not in a way that someone else dictates.

I think they were saying that it can be done, but it won't always be done, and it does depend on a lot of factors, including the receptivity of the recipient, karma, and the will of the infinite.

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Old 12-23-2009, 05:02 AM   #5
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I don't think anyone has said they can always heal someone from long distance with only a first name, especially not in a way that someone else dictates.

I think they were saying that it can be done, but it won't always be done, and it does depend on a lot of factors, including the receptivity of the recipient, karma, and the will of the infinite.

Definition of a skeptic: A self appointed vigilante for the suppression of curiosity.
Go back and read the thread before you tell me what you THINK they said.

Then please QUOTE the text where their words match your assumptions.

Yes, they did add some hefty disclaimers.

Now go read the 'healing list' thread and tell me where you find those same disclaimers.

I know they're your friends. I know you WANT to believe them. I'm sorry if this thread challenges your reality.
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Old 12-23-2009, 06:17 AM   #6
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So now, the whole thing here about healing is BS you say? WOW! If you would only knew. But I already told you, it requires an open heart and an open mind to accept that there's much more then this reality.

If you're just trying to point out that there are sharlatans out there...you're right...but then, this thread should've been re-named.

But you can't stick all other in the same basket and claim that any other healing then the "standard" medicine is BS. And I don't have to prove you anything.

So once again, you're not honest...and this thread is not even worth reading any more.

At the end, I will tell you the storry of a very good friend of mine. She got leikemia 10 years ago...her son was one year old back then.

She went to the hospital, they cheked her...and left her lying in the floor. She thought that would be only temporarily, until they they find a room for her. After few hours and nothing happened, she asked the doctors when she will be given a place and when the therapy will start. To her surprise, they told her that they actually gave her up, she would anyway die until tomorrow and there's no need of any therapy any more.

Now you can imagine her surprise...but she never gave up. She told the doctors that she simply isn't ready to die...and she is still among us

So how do you explain this? She healed herself...and she says today, that was the greatest thing that has ever happend in her life...

And now you tell me how she did this? BTW, she doesn't know herself either...
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Old 12-23-2009, 06:29 AM   #7
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WOW! If you would only knew.
Funny. I was thinking the same thing about the members here.

As for calling me dishonest. I repeat:

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A forum full of 'healers'. A thread asking them some simple questions.

No answers to the questions (except Anchor).

Nobody willing to actually HEAL someone to put the matter to rest.

Two so-called healers have deleted their claims and run away in shame.

And your conclusion is that I'm dishonest.

Your powers of discernment are lacking.
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Old 12-23-2009, 06:47 AM   #8
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only anchor answered any of your questions?


it was my intent to answer them. i'm sorry if none of my answers came across that way. it was never my intent to argue with you. i was sincere in trying to figure out what answers you were looking for. i assumed your questions were sincere. was i wrong? it's starting to feel like you might have had the agenda others seemed to be accusing you of. i like to give people the benefit of the doubt, though, so i don't immediately assume someone has an ulterior motive.




i suspect a couple of people deleted their comments and left in frustration. i don't see any reason anyone would have felt shame over the specified responses.
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Old 12-23-2009, 06:55 AM   #9
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i suspect a couple of people deleted their comments and left in frustration. i don't see any reason anyone would have felt shame over the specified responses.
Some people suspect, when others know. The problems arise when people who suspect think they know.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stxtqkZzJ-U

440 hz, Takes it away, clears the Rash, Hot skin....

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Old 12-23-2009, 07:08 AM   #10
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scarab, it becomes clear to me that you and i are simply not living in the same paradigm. i am more and more confused by your responses to my questions. i really don't think this is going to go anywhere.

therefore, i respectfully withdraw from the conversation.




however, i'm completely open to discussions of healing topics. anyone interested in sincere discourse feel free to give me a holler.
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Old 12-23-2009, 07:12 AM   #11
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Would it make you happy if I told you I sufficiently healed my sister enough to get her off the ventilator when she was in the ICU hooked up to all sorts of tubes? Her lungs had partially collapsed.

In actuallity I gave her enough energy to help her out but in the end she still needed to get off it herself.

I wouldn't call myself some sort of miracle worker though. I leave that province to someon like Jesus.

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Old 12-23-2009, 04:17 PM   #12
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I really do not think anyone can answer your questions as far as you are concern. You already have your mind set that we are all a bunch of phoneys people that only "think" we can heal

I already told you that it is nothing special and we all can do it if we "believe" that we can. what ever name you want to put on it

Tango healed my grandson overnight when he was so very sick with the wonderful "invented flue" that is going around. He made a believer out of me.
In fact it was those very actions that made me start reading up on healing further and I know what it did for me.

I take offense that you mock him and will take myself out of the conversation also.

If you would just sit back and think about all of what has been written
here you might actually learn something.
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:21 PM   #13
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I really do not think anyone can answer your questions as far as you are concern. You already have your mind set that we are all a bunch of phoneys people that only "think" we can heal

I already told you that it is nothing special and we all can do it if we "believe" that we can. what ever name you want to put on it

Tango healed my grandson overnight when he was so very sick with the wonderful "invented flue" that is going around. He made a believer out of me.
In fact it was those very actions that made me start reading up on healing further and I know what it did for me.

I take offense that you mock him and will take myself out of the conversation also.

If you would just sit back and think about all of what has been written
here you might actually learn something.
Your story changed again.

And, again. If 'Tango' has these powers of healing, how come he doesn't walk into a hospital and help those in need?
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Your story changed again.

And, again. If 'Tango' has these powers of healing, how come he doesn't walk into a hospital and help those in need?
My story changed...............No it didnt

I have 11 grandchildren. The Reiki Master healed Baley who was born too soon 10 years ago

Tango healed my 7 year old grandson Ian just a few months ago

Do not insinuate that my story changed until you have heard them all.


You continue to ask about the children, can I ask you why you havent walked in there and done something yourself ?

I keep them in my prayers but not much you can do when they continue to give them the poison that they call chemo
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:47 PM   #15
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You continue to ask about the children, can I ask you why you havent walked in there and done something yourself ?
Because I admit that I cannot. Same as you and the others here.

It's obvious reasoning.

If people here could heal. Or, if everyone could cure themselves of whatever ails them. There would be no hospitals.
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Old 12-23-2009, 06:31 PM   #16
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The frequencies in my experience not only heal but helps to stable your heart and mind to listen to your most inner thoughts and begin to discover the real you . Life is meant to be beautiful, there's just too much war and hunger on this planet. My goal in relating my story is to share the beauty that our life can be once we shed the unneeded baggage . I experience too much pain as a soldier and cause as much pain to others . Is time to heal ourselves and help to heal the world around us. We are living in an incredible moment in time , lets learn from each other and embrace one another . We do not know each other but we all share one thing in common we are searching for truth , understanding, and a little peace and harmony for ourselves and the world we live in. My most sincere wish to all here at project Avalon is that you have a happy holiday and that the coming year the whole world can be heal , not one of us are perfect yet everyone deserves to live with dignity and respect.
So many innocent lives die every single day because of our ignorance , lets all become wiser and more compassionate. Looking at the man in the mirror I am full of hope for my children and the world upon which we all live.

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Old 12-23-2009, 07:09 PM   #17
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Thank You for your compassionate and wise words Frank Samuel.
You are speaking from Love unconditional .
The moment we see through our heart we are already contributing
to healing the world because we are including rather than excluding.

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Frank Samuel

Your words ring true with me.

If people like you had not shared your stories with us, I have no idea where I would be today.

So I personally, I thank all that have come forward and shared their story to teach others to find it within themselfs.

It takes courage to do so because there is always someone that does want to discredit us. Judging is nothing I care to deal with..

It matters not to me any longer as I do know the truth and I will never put my head down in shame as I know that I do not lie. I'm way too old to play that type of game.

My family and I have gotten closer and happier and thats saying alot.


My wish for this special season is that all of us heal ourselfs and the world also.

special blessings to Scarab that you soon find it within yourself to understand what wonderful gifts we all have.

Judging is not one of them
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Because I admit that I cannot. Same as you and the others here.

It's obvious reasoning.

If people here could heal. Or, if everyone could cure themselves of whatever ails them. There would be no hospitals.
"Children love can accomplish anything and everything. Love can cure diseases. Love can heal wounded hearts and transform human minds. Through love one can overcome all obstacles. Love can help us renounce all physical, mental and intellectual tensions and thereby bring peace and happiness."

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Scarab the healers on this forum have that faith . Love is what moves them and their healing is free.
Love is not something that you can reason with . It goes beyond Logic .
Think of how much you would like these cancerous children to be healed then open your heart and let your Love flow to them .. unconditional love .. love that has no bounderies and it will find it's way to fill the gaps .You can join us .. My heart, your heart , his heart .. we all share the same sacred heart from which the only thing that springs is pure Love .
People get sick by lack of Love..pure Love. It is our responsabitlity to realize that we are Love .. Love is our essence . The moment we do we raise the world . When everyone realizes this you'll see no hospitals around you any longer.
We all carry a different soul signature and so our healing energy will take different forms but Love is always the same.

Love Always
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That's funny because I started a thread here titled 'What is LOVE?' and nobody could explain it beyond copy and pasted platitudes.

I think you're a nice lady. I may disagree with you, but I respect the fact that you practice what you preach.

That being said, I still await some physical demonstration of the most physical phenomenon of healing.
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:42 PM   #21
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Scarab - I've read through most of this thread. No offense, but what kind of stupid idea is it logistically to think that a healer would walk into a hospital and heal, what, all the kids on the cancer ward? Is that right? Someone would call security. Or, any one plucking away on an internet forum would, what, shut down their computer and, what, walk outside and find someone with, what, cancer?

WTF. It's as though you're hoping someone has all the answers. One stop shopping. As for the what is love thread, good god, man! (or woman), if y'hafta ask... what kind of stupid question is that! (also)

The great thing that came out of this thread IMO is who owns C2C. Thanks for bringing it up. Thanks to Northern Boy for fighting with you and providing a link. Thanks to Fred for digging it up. I'm going to dig it up for here. I haven't listened to C2C since a few episodes in 2006-7.

PS You don't really seem to have a way with people. What *precisely* are you looking for?
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OK, fair enough. I will answer in the way you people seem to be accustomed instead of plain talk.

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Scarab - I've read through most of this thread. No offense, but what kind of stupid idea is it logistically to think that a healer would walk into a hospital and heal, what, all the kids on the cancer ward? Is that right? Someone would call security. Or, any one plucking away on an internet forum would, what, shut down their computer and, what, walk outside and find someone with, what, cancer?
Dear beloveds, if you were able to tap in the glorious light of healing power, as master healers, you would be able to enter any man made facility, exert your divine control over nature and heal the sick instantaneously and cure every ill immediately and permanently.

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WTF. It's as though you're hoping someone has all the answers. One stop shopping. As for the what is love thread, good god, man! (or woman), if y'hafta ask... what kind of stupid question is that! (also)
Dear beloveds, once you begin to explore the infinite aspects of love you will learn that it is like a multifaceted crystal. Simple, yet complex in nature. Once you begin exploring the physical and spiritual aspects of this magnificent force you will find that although the concept is simple in principle it is complex in thought and action. When you begin to travel the realms of love with like minded explorers you will be able to wisely discuss the many facets of this simple act at length and in great detail.

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The great thing that came out of this thread IMO is who owns C2C. Thanks for bringing it up. Thanks to Northern Boy for fighting with you and providing a link. Thanks to Fred for digging it up. I'm going to dig it up for here. I haven't listened to C2C since a few episodes in 2006-7.
Oh my confused dear one, this thread did not expose the ownership of c2c. Although we can understand your great wonderment and astonishment at that discovery. We must point out dear one that Northern Boy fighting wasn't a noble act, it was for the furtherment and unbounding glorification of his own ego. Fred is a wonderful soul who with an inquisitive mind who was able to scratch the surface of the c2c mystery but GaiaLove was the advanced soul who was able to discover the true mysteries behind the radio station you know as c2c. Of course, my dearest one the quest that was undertaken to uncover this universal mystery was at the repeated bequest of the OP in this thread.

How's that. Do you understand now? I hope you do because it made me nauseous to write it out that way.
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OK, fair enough. I will answer in the way you people seem to be accustomed instead of plain talk.



Dear beloveds, if you were able to tap in the glorious light of healing power, as master healers, you would be able to enter any man made facility, exert your divine control over nature and heal the sick instantaneously and cure every ill immediately and permanently.



Dear beloveds, once you begin to explore the infinite aspects of love you will learn that it is like a multifaceted crystal. Simple, yet complex in nature. Once you begin exploring the physical and spiritual aspects of this magnificent force you will find that although the concept is simple in principle it is complex in thought and action. When you begin to travel the realms of love with like minded explorers you will be able to wisely discuss the many facets of this simple act at length and in great detail.



Oh my confused dear one, this thread did not expose the ownership of c2c. Although we can understand your great wonderment and astonishment at that discovery. We must point out dear one that Northern Boy fighting wasn't a noble act, it was for the furtherment and unbounding glorification of his own ego. Fred is a wonderful soul who with an inquisitive mind who was able to scratch the surface of the c2c mystery but GaiaLove was the advanced soul who was able to discover the true mysteries behind the radio station you know as c2c. Of course, my dearest one the quest that was undertaken to uncover this universal mystery was at the repeated bequest of the OP in this thread.

How's that. Do you understand now? I hope you do because it made me nauseous to write it out that way.

You guys are having all the fun tonight
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Oh my confused dear one, this thread did not expose the ownership of c2c.
Well, I learned it on this here one anyway. My revelation. Opp. my bad I mean

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Although we can understand your great wonderment and astonishment at that discovery.
Ok. If you say so. "great wonderment and astonishment" bwahahahah- ha? huh? ho?

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We must point out dear one that Northern Boy fighting wasn't a noble act, it was for the furtherment and unbounding glorification of his own ego. Fred is a wonderful soul who with an inquisitive mind who was able to scratch the surface of the c2c mystery but GaiaLove was the advanced soul who was able to discover the true mysteries behind the radio station you know as c2c.
Well good for everybody anyway. I personally don't like being called dear much, by the way. Hey! I know an old lady (now deceased) who hated it too. So when her son said yada dear yada, well, it's corny but she just called him moose all the time. Hey! Do you read Archie?

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Of course, my dearest one the quest that was undertaken to uncover this universal mystery was at the repeated bequest of the OP in this thread.
Behest or bequest? Because I'm looking for money.

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How's that. Do you understand now? I hope you do because it made me nauseous to write it out that way.
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Yes, I made a mistake. Behest would have been the appropriate word. Thank you.
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