Seeking spiritual guidance/advice from an enlightened or psychic female perspective

[Myplanet2]

This is such a common situation right now, all across the planet.

Another great teacher has actually created a free webinar series devoted to just this subject. Relationships during this shift. He'll discuss the specific issues and the solutions. I love his simple and gentle style, and great wisdom. And it's free.

They start this thursday and he has them twice a day. 4 pm and 7pm pst. the later is a repeat of the earlier, more or less, except they are both live and you can call in and talk live too. Great fun.

Jim Self.

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/

[THE eXchanger]

staying single, has a lot of advantages
right now, if i wanted to sell my house/and, i have a spouse
i might NOT be able to sell it

also, i do NOT have to consider anyone else's feelings/or thoughts
in making my own decisions

yes, actually, i think i know why i stayed single !!!

other people, can really clutter up/and, mess up your life

having an anchor around your neck / or having the smallest handcuff in the world on your finger,
might NOT be pleasant

[futureyes]

hello md3inaustin ...
not so sure about enlightened but i am female and have experience with this scenario ...
allow your own truth to continuously grow ... even if you attempted to shut that part of you down at this point ... i feel would be pointless ... once awake ... you cannot go back ... there isn't anywhere to go back to is there ...
your wife ... be there for her ... as you are ... allow her the space ... for her own truth to unfold as it is meant to ... when it is meant to ...
something you either say or something she hears elsewhere ... may trigger the beginning of her awakening ... it could occur anytime ...
in the interim ... you will feel the gap ... perhaps even widening ... from where the two of you are with this ...
can the two of you just be ... and allow ... without expectation ... it is our expectation of each other that becomes our wedge ... can you co-exist without this wedge of expectation ...
and if the gap widens ... to a point whereby this factor ... seeps within many aspects of your relationship ... creating many wedges ... the outcome of which the energy between you is no longer light ... the connection becoming with much effort ...
then you will know ... within your heart ... that it is time to walk different paths ... and if felt within your heart ... you will know it will be for the benefit of both ...
and you will know ... if all true and pure attempts to allow each other to be your selves ... have been exhausted ...
then you will know ... it isn't just about your self and where you feel you are headed to ... but also ... you will feel ... you need to allow the other ... to also be where they need to be ... in order for their selves to grow ... but differently than you do ...
and that it is ok ...
allow each other the space ... to be who you are ... and whatever is meant to be ... between you ... will be ...
and to trust it is so ...

blessings to both of you md3inaustin ...
all will be well ...

just be ... no expectations ok

one of my favourite poems ...


love one another,
but make not a bond of love,
let it rather be a moving sea
between the shores of your souls

sing and dance together and be joyous,
but let each one of you be alone,
as the strings of a flute are alone
though they quiver with the same music

stand together yet not too near together,
for the pillars of the temple stand apart,
and the oak tree and the cypress
grow not in each other's shadow
kahlil gibran

can we allow ... without expectation ...

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

staying single, has a lot of advantages
right now, if i wanted to sell my house/and, i have a spouse
i might NOT be able to sell it

also, i do NOT have to consider anyone else's feelings/or thoughts
in making my own decisions

yes, actually, i think i know why i stayed single !!!

other people, can really clutter up/and, mess up your life

having an anchor around your neck / or having the smallest handcuff in the world on your finger,
might NOT be pleasant

Not going for the ball and chain look, eh?

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

This is such a common situation right now, all across the planet.

Another great teacher has actually created a free webinar series devoted to just this subject. Relationships during this shift. He'll discuss the specific issues and the solutions. I love his simple and gentle style, and great wisdom. And it's free.

They start this thursday and he has them twice a day. 4 pm and 7pm pst. the later is a repeat of the earlier, more or less, except they are both live and you can call in and talk live too. Great fun.

Jim Self.

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/

Yes, I plan to tune in and the direct link is here: http://www.masteringalchemy.com/teleclasses.html

Even though hubby is transferred out for the next 6 months, it gives me time to further process out any "negative stickies" that comprise any residual games conditions. Because, it takes two to hold each other in bondage :-)

I don't think it was an accident that he got transferred out for the next few months. However, from the viewpoint of the All-that-is, all is very well :-)

[Shaynard]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

This is such a common situation right now, all across the planet.

Another great teacher has actually created a free webinar series devoted to just this subject. Relationships during this shift. He'll discuss the specific issues and the solutions. I love his simple and gentle style, and great wisdom. And it's free.

They start this thursday and he has them twice a day. 4 pm and 7pm pst. the later is a repeat of the earlier, more or less, except they are both live and you can call in and talk live too. Great fun.

Jim Self.

http://www.masteringalchemy.com/

Thank you for this info.

It can be difficult to maintain compassion for some we are in different types of relationships with while everyone is going "through this". I feel very much like the OP, with a few differences.

I believed I would be totally content living with others who are not completely connected to themselves. It has been far more difficult than i thought it would, but I have enjoyed the challenge. What keeps me centered is forgiving these people as quickly as I can when i feel negative feelings building. That said, regardless of any level of understanding one may have, it is VERY difficult to endure, and make choices that are best for you.

Best of luck finding the needed help md3inaustin.. If you do want another male perspective at any time I would be happy to share experiences with you further.

There seems to be plenty of help here regardless.

In light, of love
Shaynard

[Kulapops]

There's some confusion as to whether I'm a woman or not.. so I'll post here if I may.

I thought Redtailhawks comment enlightening. They have to want to at least understand your perspective.

I think it's a base rule of unconditional love for someone that you care about them and want to understand who they are and support who that is. (one day we'll feel this way about everyone but until then, we hope that our beloved at least will feel this way about us.) For better or worse.

But then you have karma...and life being a learning experience. So if you're not in that lovey-dovey situation, then it's a case of working out your life's learning in the relationship you're in (Remember, anything we accuse another of is a latent 'fault' of our own. That's a real b***ch that idea ) - or of leaving. But leaving without resolution ultimately suggests you'll just walk into the same situation again in another guise.

To take her side for a moment, and my own feelings about what I learned in the last 8 years or so - We don't really know that ANY of it is true. Do we? And even if it was, a quantum functioning universe could change that all on a pin...to have never been true.

I'd be the first one to say that your relationship with yourself and your wife is FAR more important to this world (and to me for that matter), than any FEMA-illuminati-alien-reptile-underground-base agenda.

Armageddon will happen or it won't. (Armageddon used to the idea )

We can't possibly follow all the ins and outs 24/7, so she's right to be concerned if it's taking over your life.

I really hope you find some answers to your relationship. Relationship is where it's all headed. There are some great people here. I feel the love enfolding you already.

Best wishes

K

[burgundia]

make a decision that will make you happy, do not waste your time. Try to do your best to stay in the relationship but do not hold onto it desperately if it isn't working. A similar thing is happening now between me and some of my friends. I have not much to talk about with them. So we see each other less often. Our relationship is still cordial but I have no need to be around them and probably they have no need to be around me. our world outlook is so much different, even if what we are learning here is not 100% true. In order to find a common ground in our talks I have to go back, as if , to the past... I am not saying that they do not want to listen to me, at times they do, but it is too much for them to comprehend. the only person awake that I know is my sister, whose husband is not awake. fortunately she has a friend to whom she can talk and be understood.
Finding someone who is awake, in real life, is very hard...Most of us here are alone in this journey.

[Christo888]

Crazy position to be in.

'Should I stay or should I go now.'

Try a couple of different approaches with yourself...

Do you enjoy her company?

Can you spend long periods of time with her and participate in many different aspects of life without having to always have the conversation revert to waking up?

Is it your job to have to wake her up?

Can you enjoy your life for the rest of your life being with her just the way she is?

Can you enjoy every day the best way you can just the way you are?

As a person is she someone you want to spend the rest of your life with, or did you marry her because the embarrassment of backing out was worse? And if you were too embarrassed to back out, why would a relationship with another woman be any better or worse?????

And here's the million dollar question for the day... Why would being with an enlightened person make your life any better?

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Christo888

And here's the million dollar question for the day... Why would being with an enlightened person make your life any better?

Will i get a million dollares if I can answer this question?
maybe it wouldn't make it better but there is a chance that it wouldn't make it worse...

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by burgundia

Will i get a million dollares if I can answer this question?
maybe it wouldn't make it better but there is a chance that it wouldn't make it worse...

I guess you have earned a million dollares... do you take telephone credit cards.

[whitefluffy]

dear just married,
right? ,
oh boy,
are you in for an awakening, and believe me it's a test!
Forget you own spiritual awakening, its kinda irrelevant, just another aspect of your relationship together.
If your're having trouble now, just wait til children come along, then you'll really see what your relationship is made of!
best of luck!
just make sure, if you decide to leave, do it b4 you decide to have babies together.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by whitefluffy

dear just married,
right? ,
oh boy,
are you in for an awakening, and believe me it's a test!
Forget you own spiritual awakening, its kinda irrelevant, just another aspect of your relationship together.
If your're having trouble now, just wait til children come along, then you'll really see what your relationship is made of!
best of luck!
just make sure, if you decide to leave, do it b4 you decide to have babies together.

Ha, you are funny :-) No matter who you are married to he/she is going to come up in your clearing work/sessions until you arrive at your first split from the Tao. That could take months And even the Tao is perplexed I'm starting to think The Source/Tao has a "other half" issues too

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Christo888

I guess you have earned a million dollares... do you take telephone credit cards.

I know that dollars is the correct spelling, but sometimes i just hit the wrong buttons....

[hollylindin]

Originally Posted by burgundia

Make a decision that will make you happy, do not waste your time. Try to do your best to stay in the relationship but do not hold onto it desperately if it isn't working.

I believe the number-one thing in life is to be true to one's self. If your relationship is causing negativity in your life, maybe it's best to move on. The things that are most important to you are most important to you - there's no changing that. And if being with a specific person (in any kind of relationship.) is deterring you from your life's path, my personal thought is that that tie must be severed.

Keep in mind, though, I don't recommend you get a divorce - UNLESS you want that. Unless you can sincerely say it will better your life or alleviate all these stresses you're having - then do so. Have you tried sitting down with her and expressing your concern? Really, truly explaining to her that you've been feeling that perhaps breaking up WOULD be the best way to go? Maybe she needs a little "shock" to actually open her ears and listen to what it is you're going through.

I can relate, as I've always been quite awake, but the last almost-two years have been the REAL awakening for me. My partner is a little awake and has watched interviews with me and always hears the radio interviews when I'm listening, but he doesn't go outta his way to delve into it himself (although he DOES talk about this stuff with a guy he works with). We talk about these things, but he's NOWHERE near as passionate about it as I am. We've come from different backgrounds, VERY different, where my freedoms were always "allowed" by my parents and my creativity and expression were embraced - and his parents quelled his creativity, expression, and freedom for favour of organized religion (and no, I have nothing positive to say about organized religion, so I won't start). I hafta remind myself of that - that he's my best friend and my life partner, and I KNOW that part of the reason I'm here this time is to help him (and those around me).

The great difference is, my partner is willing to listen to me when I explain what a whistleblower said or pass on fascinating information I got from an article while he'd been at work - it doesn't sound like your wife is willing to even listen to you! Maybe she's scared, maybe she doesn't care, maybe she doesn't agree with it or is against it, but you're her HUSBAND - I'm sure she tells you things you couldn't care less about, but you probably listen and show respect. I usually find those who cannot show respect for others haven't much of it for themselves.

Look, I'm not trying to go outta my way to say mean things about your wife - I'm just frustrated with those who are paired up with her, you know? Asleep, scared, concentrating on things that don't matter. (And I LOVE "Project Runway" , but I also read, watch, and listen like crazy when it comes to things on this forum and others alike, so the "Project Runway"'s of this world are nowhere near brainwashing me or dumbing me down.) They WILL wake up, though, but it's up to you to figure out if it's meant to be part of your life's work to wake her up. I realize it's hard sometimes - really, really hard - but is it all worth it?

I realize I may not be helping, but I hope SOMEthing resonated with you. I send you a ton of love, and I will pray that you find the answers you're searching for.

<3

[futureyes]

this has been on my brain for days now ... because i've lived it ...
and as such ... what to offer others ... in similar scenarios ...

one thing ... of greatest significance ... we MUST be true to our selves ...
if ever there was a time ... it is now ... that however we maintain our truth ... is how it is meant to be ...

through joy and through sorrow ... matters not what life brings before us ... we must continue to follow our hearts ...
be true ... be real ...

i feel ... gone are those days when we can compromise ... who we are ... and where we are meant to be ...

feels like ... time implodes so rapidly now ... we will continue to walk our paths ... hand in hand with some ... and others ... will branch off onto their own paths ... for their learning ... will be different ... and that is ok ...

and the ones whom remain walking with us ... and new hearts we meet upon our journeys ... either way ... are meant to be ...

time changes ... people change ... time changes people ...

moving forward ... should be as effortless as possible ...

most significant ... be true to ourselves ... follow our hearts ...

when time no longer exists as it does now ... what will we be left with ...

our true selves ...

[Sarahmay]

What you should keep in mind is that she will most likely never change her position. Okay, she MIGHT, but if so it will be on her terms and you cannot count on that.

So, if she never changes, can you live with that/her? Will it stifle your growth to the point of paralysis or suffocation, or do you have enough freedom to pursue your interests at will?

Also, is she someone you would want as your partner if things were to go downhill in an economic or ecological disaster?

You are not here to wake anybody else up, this is your journey.

[NancyV]

I can see that you already know the answer to what would be the best thing to do about your marriage. Even when we know what is best to do we sometimes want some support and corroboration that it's okay to do what we think is the right thing. It's okay. There is no guilt in correcting a situation that is not working out. You can't even say it's a mistake, because undoubtedly you learned much from it and so will she. The truly kind thing to do would be to do the right thing for YOU. That will also be best for her.

Postponing what you know you must do is also okay, but will continue your frustration and probably increase your anger. It will also delay her from finding someone who has interests more similar to hers. If you want to get on with your life in the areas you are interested in and allow your wife to find someone more compatible for her, leave sooner rather than later. Certainly if you have a child it will influence your decision and you may stay because of that, which will complicate your life immensely.

Do not accept that there is anything wrong with failing to maintain a relationship. The most important thing in your life is for you to find happiness and fulfillment. If you are not happy you will not make your mate happy. So please reach your decision and do what you know is the correct thing for you, without guilt, without regret, knowing that you will both find another to love and enjoy.

Nancy

[TruthWillSetUFree]

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