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Old 11-07-2008, 03:49 PM   #1
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You do not HAVE to give any details of your personal information.

I would suggest a Cashiers Check or a Money Order.
Just use snail mail to get it in.

Worked for me....

EDIT: One thing that is positive about a subscription is it will weed out people that simply want to cause trouble.
Of course not everyone but, a good portion of them will go away.
Hello,

I would like to have advertising if I don't pay subscription, and no advertising if I pay subscription.

I can't understand being forced to pay, when you can make the money with advertising. Just don't force me please. Support is something that need to be MY decision, not yours.

Sorry, I can't believe you are going that way, I still hope you can change your mind...

Thank you.

EDIT : People that want trouble WILL make trouble, with forced subscription you are just penalizing honest people without money.

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Old 11-07-2008, 10:10 PM   #2
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Hello,

I would like to have advertising if I don't pay subscription, and no advertising if I pay subscription.

I can't understand being forced to pay, when you can make the money with advertising. Just don't force me please. Support is something that need to be MY decision, not yours.

Sorry, I can't believe you are going that way, I still hope you can change your mind...

Thank you.

EDIT : People that want trouble WILL make trouble, with forced subscription you are just penalizing honest people without money.
I seriously doubt that is going to happen.
One, it is not my call...
Two, it is the owners decision and they are going with the Subscription route.
Three, They do not want advertisments. Personally I don't care for them myself. They look crass and can be very annoying.
Four, I am not going to debate/argue with you on this.

I know from a business stand point if you give something away for free then people will take it for granted.
When there is a fee then people will take it a lot more seriously.

Also I happen to agree with the owners since they have given ALL their videos and interviews away for free on the net.
So their forum is a small price to pay in the scheme of things.

Nobody is getting penalized. You were already GIVEN free information to begin with.

I also understand being cash poor.
I was laid off this past summer after 15 years of solid service.
It was not fair but, what is?
It was not due to my lack of performance.
It was due to the economic climate.
I simply am doing the best I can under the circumstances.
However, if there is something I want/need then I sacrifice something else to attain it.
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:57 PM   #3
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Also I happen to agree with the owners since they have given ALL their videos and interviews away for free on the net.
So their forum is a small price to pay in the scheme of things.
Does this mean then that if someone posts something of value to other members they can get a refund on their subscription??

Or are we not all equal??
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:01 AM   #4
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Default Re: Subscription - Why???

After having run web sites for over 8 years, here is the poop.

It is dirt cheep compared to a few years ago now. Our sites have a lot of big meg pictures
and that means bandwidth and costs. The first few years it was close to $300.00 a year
per site, now it is down to just about a hundred bucks a year for each. Maybe they
should just charge for their videos? All the videos have told me so far is what the Powers
That Be want us to believe, and how to believe it. Release of information that THEY want
you to have, the way they want you to have it. Except the bible, now that is on its own, if
you but read it.
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Old 11-08-2008, 02:30 AM   #5
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I don't think it has much to do with the costs of running this forum.
I believe they are trying to create a paid subscription business
to make a living. It is a business. Bill and Kerry will have expenses
regarding collecting new valuable information. Your contribution
will help them travel to neat locations and chat with whistleblowers and
witnesses. They got bills just like the rest of us. And considering
the expenses and the cost of living, they will need some kind of income to cover them.

If you feel that you can go elsewhere to get the information for free,
then kudos for you.

We all know how expensive everything is. And if the price is fair,
then you get the reward of gaining insightful information. However,
if you feel the information is not that insightful, you don't have to pay.
Avalon will become a resource to community members here and less of
a debate hall. Members that stay here will gain a more productive
journey through important information not available anywhere else.
That could be a valuable asset to you.

Running a server is one thing but eating, traveling, paying rent, the light bill, and other expenses is another.

I doubt Bill and Kerry will fit the role of saying, "Would you like fries with that?" to interview more witnesses.

Peace,
Kevin
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