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Old 01-22-2009, 09:44 PM   #1
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Please everyone, I've been hearing discordant voices here and there and have even been contacted personally with a thanks for being more down to earth within this thread so I consider it my responsibility to forward this.

I do not want to thwart this project, I'm with you as before but please take some time and read this thread:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=9971

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Old 01-22-2009, 11:21 PM   #2
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One more thing. Phied, AstralWalker, which bearings and grids are you most successful with? I might have missed this along the way as I am only now looking into the technicalities.
I'm running Giza Hagens and Paris Hagens now, Paris surely looks more reliable but some of the spots you have in the list are way off any connection, so I'm not sure if I'm going in the right direction though.

(Curiously, the Paris Hagens grid runs a line right through all my recent homes in Germany, Norway and England.)
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:49 AM   #3
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Please everyone, I've been hearing discordant voices here and there and have even been contacted personally with a thanks for being more down to earth within this thread so I consider it my responsibility to forward this.

I do not want to thwart this project, I'm with you as before but please take some time and read this thread:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=9971

Godspeed
Dear friend,

Many of the thoughts there have good logic. And people can apply it to a certain level.

Every action we take has its own frequency. Even these words that I type now has their own. What the man is suggesting in the thread you mentioned leads to violence. It is simple the nature of that frequency…make a change by force. That will lead to response from other side…the military pumps in the game and it will be over very soon.



In my opinion, the only true chance we have is in this way. It will take some time but considering the fact how distant is all this to many people, we are doing fine.

The crops designs are showing us that we understand this…to learn to live in peace and harmony.

The bitterness and having enough of evil agenda is perfectly understandable, but that is what the Dark Side wants to achieve…that we all lost our control and start demolishing everything and it the end the result will be reduction of human population. Exactly what the Dark Side wants.



I totally agree that there are many steps that we as humans can do, but they have to be defined very sharply, because even a small overdose of those leads to disorder and anarchy.

At the current state of consciousness, even if some of us survive the battle there will be new battles for who to take over the control. It’s just in human nature to fight and this is one of the hardest lessons that we have to learn as humans.

Meditative inertia is not inertia. It’s not doing anything while the Dark Side demolishes everything, but it is the most powerful dynamic force that we as humans can achieve. If preformed right. But, it is a process and it can not be done overnight.

And yes, all this is just a frequency in the Matrix. I’m sure that many of you will choose the option that respected Cloud9 is mentioning. It is a natural culmination of things in the past. And it will do its own purpose also.



I personally, see my path with changing the basic fractal structure of the Matrix. We have proof of that. Our thoughts influence the molecule structure of the water. We will use the same Force, amplified million times and we will create this change and lot more. No harm will be done, no lives will be lost (which will not be the case in the other option), and the negative vibration will have to retreat because simply it will not be in a position to stand the different emotional charge.



Be still now and listen, for your chance may not come again.

All your weapons of evil must be removed. The time for conflict is now past and the race of which you are a part may proceed to the higher stages of its evolution if you show yourselves worthy to do this. You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace and goodwill.

Small groups all over the planet are learning this, and exist to pass on the light of the dawning New Age to you all. You are free to accept or reject their teachings, but only those who learn to live in peace will pass to the higher realms of spiritual evolution.




My hearth perfectly resonates with those lines, and that is the path and vision that I'm wiling to fallow till the very end of my physical presence here.

Respect to you,
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The Mind and the Nature of Mind

The still revolutionary insight of Buddhism is that life and death are in the mind, and nowhere else. Mind is revealed as the universal basis of experience – the creator of happiness and the creator of suffering, the creator of what we call life and what we call death.

There are many aspects to the mind, but two stand out. The first is the ordinary mind, called by the Tibetans sem. One master defines it: "That which possesses discriminating awareness, that which possesses a sense of duality – which grasps or rejects something external – that is mind. Fundamentally it is that which can associate with an 'other' – with any 'something,' that is perceived as different from the perceiver." (2) Sem is the discursive, dualistic, thinking mind, which can only function in relation to a projected and falsely perceived external reference point.

So sem is the mind that thinks, plots, desires, manipulates, that flares up in anger, that creates and indulges in waves of negative emotion and thoughts, that has to go on and on asserting, validating, and confirming its "existence" by fragmenting, conceptualizing, and solidifying experience. The ordinary mind is the ceaselessly shifting and shiftless prey of external influences, habitual tendencies, and conditioning: The masters liken sem to a candle flame in an open doorway, vulnerable to all the winds of circumstance.
Seen from one angle, sem is flickering, unstable, grasping, and endlessly minding others' business; its energy consumed by projecting outwards. I think of it sometimes as a Mexican jumping bean, or as a monkey hopping restlessly from branch to branch on a tree. Yet seen in another way, the ordinary mind has a false, dull stability, a smug and self-protective inertia, a stone-like calm of ingrained habits. Sem is as cunning as a crooked politician, skeptical, distrustful, expert at trickery and guile, "ingenious," Jamyang Khyentse wrote, " in the games of deception." It is within the experience of this chaotic, confused, undisciplined, and repetitive sem, this ordinary mind, that, again and again, we undergo change and death.

Then there is the very nature of mind, its innermost essence, which is absolutely and always untouched by change or death. At present it is hidden within our own mind, our sem, enveloped and obscured by the mental scurry of our thoughts and emotions. Just as clouds can be shifted by a strong gust of wind to reveal the shining sun and wide-open sky, so, under certain special circumstances, some inspiration may uncover for us glimpses of this nature of mind. These glimpses have many depths and degrees, but each of them will bring some light of understanding, meaning, and freedom. This is because the nature of mind is the very root itself of understanding. In Tibetan we call it Rigpa, a primordial, pure, pristine awareness that is at once intelligent, cognizant, radiant, and always awake. It could be said to be the knowledge of knowledge itself. (3)
Do not make the mistake of imagining that the nature of mind is exclusive to our mind only. It is in fact the nature of everything. It can never be said too often that to realize the nature of mind is to realize the nature of all things.

Saints and mystics throughout history have adorned their realizations with different names and given them different faces and interpretations, but what they are all fundamentally experiencing is the essential nature of the mind. Christians and Jews call it "God"; Hindus call it "the Self," "Shiva," "Brahman," and "Vishnu"; Sufi mystics call it "the Hidden Essence"; and Buddhists call it "buddha nature." At the heart of all religions is the certainty that there is a fundamental truth, and that this life is a sacred opportunity to evolve and realize it.

When we say Buddha, we naturally think of the Indian prince Gautama Siddharta, who reached enlightenment in the sixth century B.C., and who taught the spiritual path followed by millions all over Asia, known today as Buddhism. Buddha, however, has a much deeper meaning. It means a person, any person, who has completely awakened from ignorance and opened his or her vast potential of wisdom. A Buddha is one who has brought a final end to suffering and frustration, and discovered a lasting and deathless happiness and peace.

But for many of us in this skeptical age, this state may seem like a fantasy or a dream, or an achievement far beyond our reach. It is important to remember always that Buddha was a human being, like you or me. He never claimed divinity, he merely knew he had the buddha nature, the seed of enlightenment, and that everyone else did too. The buddha nature is simply the birthright of every sentient being, and I always say, "Our buddha nature is as good as any buddha's buddha nature." This is the good news that the Buddha brought us from his enlightenment in Bodhgaya, and which many people find so inspiring. His message – that enlightenment is within the reach of all – holds out tremendous hope. Through practice, we too can all become awakened. If this were not true, countless individuals down to the present day would not have become enlightened.
It is said that when Buddha attained enlightenment, all he wanted to do was to show the rest of us the nature of mind and share completely what he had realized. But he also saw, with the sorrow of infinite compassion, how difficult it would be for us to understand.

For even though we have the same inner nature as Buddha, we have not recognized it because it is so enclosed and wrapped up in our individual ordinary minds. Imagine an empty vase. The space inside is exactly the same as the space outside. Only the fragile walls of the vase separate one from the other. Our buddha mind is enclosed within the walls of our ordinary mind. But when we become enlightened, it is as if that vase shatters into pieces. The space "inside" merges instantly into the space "outside." They become one: There and then we realize they were never separate or different; they were always the same.

The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, Sogyal Rinpoche, 10th anniversary edition, revised and updated, p. 47-49: excerpts from Chapter Four, the "Nature of Mind", paragraph "The Mind and the Nature of Mind".
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Please everyone, I've been hearing discordant voices here and there and have even been contacted personally with a thanks for being more down to earth within this thread so I consider it my responsibility to forward this.

I do not want to thwart this project, I'm with you as before but please take some time and read this thread:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=9971

Godspeed
I gradually stopped entertaining issues I found disturbing because I felt if I did, it meant pouring energy into that very frequency. Instead, I stopped using plastic bags, so it's no longer an issue (to give an example). Which is why the path Astralwalker and all here suggest resonates perfectly with me. And the music, of course.

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Thousand -Hand Guan Yin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgHmSdpjEIk

This is very beautiful and only 5 minutes



As long as you are kind and there is love in your heart
A thousand hands will naturally come to your aid
As long as you are kind and there is love in your heart
You will reach out with a thousand hands to help others

.Guan Yin is the bodhisattva of compassion, revered by Buddhists as the Goddess of Mercy. Her name is short for Guan Shi Yin. Guan means to observe, watch, or monitor; Shi means the world; Yin means sounds, specifically sounds of those who suffer. Thus, Guan Yin is a compassionate being who watches for, and responds to, the people in the world who cry out for help.
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Old 01-23-2009, 05:10 AM   #7
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Please everyone, I've been hearing discordant voices here and there and have even been contacted personally with a thanks for being more down to earth within this thread so I consider it my responsibility to forward this.

I do not want to thwart this project, I'm with you as before but please take some time and read this thread:
What's for sure is that we need multilateral action, and the thread you linked to definitely suggests another complimentary mode of operation.

What I've spent years thinking about over and over again is what is my best guess at the "heart of the matter". No matter how hard I tried to find different angles, the same thing came up: the "mind machine".

This was only because I learned to meditate at the level of pure awareness, where I believe us all to be the same, and then determined the core layers of nature that we also hold in common, leading to further layers lead to increasing uniquenesses of personality, and then the final layers of "not us but often we think it's all a part of us".

I realized that this "mind machine" is what operates on these outer layers - this is what is susceptible to influencing.

One of my learned disciplines is something called Remote Influencing, which holds a lot in common with Remote Viewing, but originates from an even deeper level of mind.

It is plausible that if we collectively fall into meditation deeply enough we can powerfully influence the collective mind, that in turn affects our mind machines. It can restore us the crucial energy of *initiative* needed for us to make change, have those making the terrible decisions think twice about alternatives, etc.

I had always felt that other methods needed to be built off of this kind of a foundation, for them to gain their greatest potential.

I'd be happy to explain further about anything if I am not clear enough.

Perhaps I can make an analogy -

Have you ever noticed how bass frequencies penetrate walls and other materials much better than high frequencies?

Brainwaves work similarly - there have been proven cases of the "lowest common denominator" effect in group meditations, such that the pendulum effect, as applied to brainwaves, works based on the lowest frequency reached with common intent (the fundamental frequency, so to speak).

Here's a comment from another forum made by a good friend of mine:

"also another thing I'll throw out there is - when I meditated with meditators who had been "at it" for over 30 years, I was brought down to their level of experience and consciousness during group meditation, they acted as the "bowling ball on the mattress" - with no choice the marble seems to drift towards the dip... very interesting phenomena... "

So the idea is that collectively, with intent and focus, we fall into meditation together and apply this same effect on a much larger scale. People with constantly excited minds (as this is what is so encouraged in our high paced, high pressure modern society), stand a great chance of feeling a tremendous calming effect - and we think different thoughts based on our brainwave patterns.

More importantly, is getting these lower frequencies in constant circulation again. The idea is to trigger a kind of a domino effect, something that serves to continuously maintain our reality in a more relaxed state.

All of a sudden, all of these other approaches will exponentialize in effectiveness!

So what I'm suggesting, is that we need all of these approaches at once!

Remember that we are each doing the most we can given what we came here to do, if we feel something unquestionably strong in May it will be hard to doubt we are not making a significant effect!

take care

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One of my learned disciplines is something called Remote Influencing, which holds a lot in common with Remote Viewing, but originates from an even deeper level of mind.

It is plausible that if we collectively fall into meditation deeply enough we can powerfully influence the collective mind, that in turn affects our mind machines. It can restore us the crucial energy of *initiative* needed for us to make change, have those making the terrible decisions think twice about alternatives, etc.

Personally, I am very strong convinced that EACH ONE of us should follow HIS OWN path to the greatest and final goal, name it ascencion, enlightement or what ever.

So, again personaly, I would say NO, I do not want to be influenced, not in the manner that I must accept some other path's to acheieve this goal.

So, since the time I'm aware that we're something more then only humans, I've made some decisions and one of them is that I will not allow to be influenced any more.

Sure, this is very hard to achieve, as the main problem here is our MIND, which is, unfortunately, more or less, still influenceable, manipulable.

The word influence content a lot of negative energy, this is at least the way how I feel.

Please be aware, that the humanity do not want to be influenced any more!!

So I would rather use some other synonym for this, if you don't mind please.

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I see there will be many different views as expected.

The main question we should be all asking is:

How do we get a group of several thousands of people strongly focused with a clear intent to a single goal and at the same time them respecting their 'inner truth' which can vary extremely from person to person in range, size and strength.

Practically speaking, when we look at today's situation we find a large number of 'lightworker' groups (many times with very different views), numbering usually in the ranges of 10-50 (I am speaking about real coherence, not just being a member of an online forum.. people who walk the talk and are ready to embark on a nearby mountain for a 'mere' meditation). How do we get them together? How do we do it without applying methodologies of top-down decision making and the resulting hierarchy that decision making process produces?



We know the drill and the old system of hierarchical control and the way these kind of initiatives are made (see an example in the yearly praying in Mecca by the muslims where it is strictly given how the ritual will be performed). How do we produce real practical results without falling back to the same systems of leadership, group mentality and control? What happens when several 'tribes' form with opposing views on the details? Who decides where we go next when these situations arise (and they will if we gain a mass of 1000+ people)

There is not enough momentum and information on the meditation itself in my opinion to know the answers to these questions so far.. but we do need to be aware these will be issues we will be facing.

We keep discussing on what will happen WHEN a lot of people focus and meditate coherently together but we overlook the main issue here. How do we attract the saturated attention (by oh so much new age material) of those people and 'make them' go to a mountain thousand miles away on a specific date (sad but true, many spiritually rich people have limited physical resources. Add to this the current economic mayhem and the resulting limits imposed on most people).

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Astralwalker, thank you for pointing out the difficulties. I am aware that some of the suggested actions may lead to difficulties and conflict hence violence. I shall be no part of that.

My point is however, that we are LOSING people that would actually be with us, if they just heard the message in a less airy-fairy way. If they had something to hold on to that isn't quite as ephemeral they would be with us. I'm reading other threads on this forum in which people describe how the chasm is getting bigger and bigger. I can not account for any of this personally but I wouldn't be surprised.

Again, I don't want to promote conflict and violence, far from that, I want us to find a way to take those that have the urge to action with us, even if it takes more physical involvement.

PhiedPiper and TheChosen, you guys understand what I'm on about, which just confirms my feeling about us being on the same wavelength.

Something else that comes in with this is that at the moment we area all coming here for information on this progress. It's a centralised point which is an element of hierarchical structure. I don't know if our private connections reach far enough, but I surely hope that there is a network between people that is beyond this forum, for when this goes down, I'd hate to see the masses of people that have known this as the harbour of this project to go with it.
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My point is however, that we are LOSING people that would actually be with us, if they just heard the message in a less airy-fairy way. If they had something to hold on to that isn't quite as ephemeral they would be with us. I'm reading other threads on this forum in which people describe how the chasm is getting bigger and bigger. I can not account for any of this personally but I wouldn't be surprised.
- The message was transmitted in many ways. In most cases the current state of being is receiving the info through all sorts of filters that are part of person’s mental structure.

-It was observed from scientific point of view, from esotheric point of view, from UFO and Crop Formation phenomena point of view, drawing parallels to ancient civilizations and much more. Airy-Fairy thing is just your observation.



-If people feel that in the particular moment some Airy-Fairy image resonates with their emotional state or the idea that they want to transmit…it’s perfectly ok with me. I do it most of the time and the communication gets more extended quality and understanding. In fact the more you start to separate with this reality the more Airy-Fairy things are coming your way…I wonder why?



-Summarized, there is nothing wrong to express your thoughts and feelings. Otherwise you became prisoner inside your own mental cage. The freedom comes when you stop bother what other people will say about your actions and when you express your uniqueness.

-One other thing is that we live in a reality that has holographic nature. What we see and feel is all in pictures and gates just as the same as Windows in the Microsoft Windows platform.



-You can jump from picture to picture and you can transmit your thoughts, feelings and energy thought it. For now it is to premature to deliver this kind of knowledge, because this is step by step process. I will deliver some other useful info when I will have time, and then we will progress as we go.

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Something else that comes in with this is that at the moment we area all coming here for information on this progress. It's a centralised point which is an element of hierarchical structure. I don't know if our private connections reach far enough, but I surely hope that there is a network between people that is beyond this forum, for when this goes down, I'd hate to see the masses of people that have known this as the harbour of this project to go with it.
-There is always network beyond this forum. And this will not go down. So keep up with the good vibe.

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How do we get a group of several thousands of people strongly focused with a clear intent to a single goal and at the same time them respecting their 'inner truth' which can vary extremely from person to person in range, size and strength.
- We will find a way that is acceptable by the majority.

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Practically speaking, when we look at today's situation we find a large number of 'lightworker' groups (many times with very different views), numbering usually in the ranges of 10-50 (I am speaking about real coherence, not just being a member of an online forum.. people who walk the talk and are ready to embark on a nearby mountain for a 'mere' meditation). How do we get them together? How do we do it without applying methodologies of top-down decision making and the resulting hierarchy that decision making process produces?

We know the drill and the old system of hierarchical control and the way these kind of initiatives are made (see an example in the yearly praying in Mecca by the muslims where it is strictly given how the ritual will be performed). How do we produce real practical results without falling back to the same systems of leadership, group mentality and control? What happens when several 'tribes' form with opposing views on the details?
-Nothing. If not done correctly nothing major will happen. It simple will not work. In fact something major will happen – we will fail. That is why it is a step by step process.



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Who decides where we go next when these situations arise (and they will if we gain a mass of 1000+ people).
-You decide for yourself. No one has to go anywhere if he/she does not resonate with this. We will construct a main plan of activities and we will posted openly on a forum. It will stay for few days and everyone can comment on it. If we all decide that it should be altered in some line of similar, we will simple do that.

-Have faith my friend. If we do not trust ourselves how can we pull this off?

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There is not enough momentum and information on the meditation itself in my opinion to know the answers to these questions so far.. but we do need to be aware these will be issues we will be facing.
-When the time is right…the meditation method will be delivered.

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We keep discussing on what will happen WHEN a lot of people focus and meditate coherently together but we overlook the main issue here. How do we attract the saturated attention (by oh so much new age material) of those people and 'make them' go to a mountain thousand miles away on a specific date (sad but true, many spiritually rich people have limited physical resources. Add to this the current economic mayhem and the resulting limits imposed on most people).
-We do not make anyone going to a mountain or wherever. We just deliver the message and if someone resonates with it he/she will go. If not, its perfectly ok. For ones who can not reach some of the locations, they can tune into the global meditation from their homes.

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Well said Astralwalker.

Don’t lose faith... exactly...and this issue is so important, so forgive me of being a bit philosophical right now:

Why bother with issues like are we (am I) going to make it and how will we (will I) achieve this...stop right there!

There is only one universal law and nothing more but one thing is required:

Just know it will be! Know it within your heart and it will be!

Follow your inner guidance, do what should be done, be where you will be at a chosen moment, do whatever is fine for you, do your best. But trust YOURSELF!

Cause YOU, each one of YOU out there, is the key element in this story called humanity. You are so worthy my dear!

And if WE all gather OUR own experiences and make it work on a global scale, no matter if present on some of the sacred sites or from your own home, WE will achieve our goal!
We will be FREE, we will be ONE again, as we were ONE eons of time ago and will be ONE eons of time more...actually, we’re all ONE right now too...

...and as I love myself, I love YOU all endlessly too...
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Thanks Malletzky. I really appreciate my friend.



Please stay tuned,
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Astralwalker:

Thanks for addressing my concerns. Yes, we don't make anyone go anywhere as that would be obviously just reverting back to the old ways. Thats why I put the parenthesis as it was just a form of speach. To put it in better words would be how to achieve the goal of those people getting to that destination in practical terms a mass of that many people can easily comprehend, how to produce the form of the meditation presented that would resonate with the right people at right places. As I already said I wouldn't expect the answers to be available to us right now.. but it is in my opinion good to be aware of the questions we'll be facing.

Faith and timing is of course a very important part of an initiative of this kind but we must be prepared and aware of all possibilites.


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The Polish version of Astral Walker's summary is now available for download from my web site in ebook ( .pdf file ) form.

It can be accessed by clicking here. Scroll down a fair way to the link.

Note too that the FRENCH version is also now available at this link

There are now SIX free ebooks on this dedicated "Nexus" page - four in English, one in French and one in Polish.

By using this page link you have the option of joining a list and you will be advised when further free Nexus ebooks are available.

All the above links go to the same dedicated page on my web site (which is mostly about earth changes and how to prepare in advance for some really interesting times. (Some of us would rather like to keep our bodies as vehicles for the spirit so we can come and go to and from other realms but still have something to live in 'down here.':-)

I also tried including an open link in this post so you could email that to others, but it is "turned off by default."

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The Polish version of Astral Walker's summary is now available for download from my web site in ebook ( .pdf file ) form.

It can be accessed by clicking here. Scroll down a fair way to the link.

Note too that the FRENCH version is also now available at this link

There are now SIX free ebooks on this dedicated "Nexus" page - four in English, one in French and one in Polish.

By using this page link you have the option of joining a list and you will be advised when further free Nexus ebooks are available.

All the above links go to the same dedicated page on my web site (which is mostly about earth changes and how to prepare in advance for some really interesting times. (Some of us would rather like to keep our bodies as vehicles for the spirit so we can come and go to and from other realms but still have something to live in 'down here.':-)



I also tried including an open link in this post so you could email that to others, but it is "turned off by default."
Thank you Startrekka,

Very useful data on your website.



Many thanks again my friend. I really appreciate.

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Old 01-24-2009, 09:00 PM   #17
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- The message was transmitted in many ways. In most cases the current state of being is receiving the info through all sorts of filters that are part of person’s mental structure.
Yes, that's what I'm on about.

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-It was observed from scientific point of view, from esotheric point of view, from UFO and Crop Formation phenomena point of view, drawing parallels to ancient civilizations and much more. Airy-Fairy thing is just your observation.
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The level of control within our society is so pervasive that they've even taken on the monumental task of pre-programming you to think of what may be presented to you sometime in the future - as crazy. That's why there's such vehement opposition from people when you try to broach the subject. There's a stigma attached to the phrase 'conspiracy theory'. There's a stigma attached to UFO's. It's all put there very deliberately to provide YOU with the kind of frustration you've been running into when you try to present this information to your loved ones. My mom told me I was the smartest person she knew, and that she trusts me more than any other person in the world...but still managed to completely discredit my offerings when the subject matter dipped into the 'fringe'.
I couldn't have put it better. Following his statement I do think there is a very real reason to break out of the box of Avalon sending love and light and get more real. Not all are hostile towards what we do, they simply aren't given any access. What cloud9 is talking about on the other thread may not work, but some social change for more 'togetherness' and actual engagement (as opposed to the current lethargy) is certainly a good idea. It's true enough that innocent people get locked up for spanking their kids on planes or living in alternative communities. Such is the nature of the patriot act and similar laws in other nations, but that might just as well happen with a bunch of meditators at Stonehenge.
If our life is so virtual what's the loss of trying to create a for people to come together it they are open but have their feet on the ground.

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-If people feel that in the particular moment some Airy-Fairy image resonates with their emotional state or the idea that they want to transmit…it’s perfectly ok with me. I do it most of the time and the communication gets more extended quality and understanding.
Pictures are fine, if they're airy fairy and make a point, it's valuable even but to publicise an idea with them should be well thought through.

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In fact the more you start to separate with this reality the more Airy-Fairy things are coming your way…I wonder why?
Are you talking about me specifically? If so, I've never really been much attracted by the 'airy-fairy' attitude, in fact I'm here because of the people and I try to look beyond the that language. Had I not done so I would not be with you now. In fact, if anything I'm approaching more 'airy-fairy' as you might gather if you read other posts of mine.
Let's get the "Airy-Fairy" thing straight though. This might be the wrong term, I merely used it as a 'catch-all' for positive world-change through alternative/new age methods - be that off word/dimension presence of assistance or 'scientifically proven' gamma-rays. Fill me in again, I thought those were lethal.

As for the language, I'm simply saying that people that aren't as open as I am but have gone through a conditioning like me won't listen, even if they are 'ready' as they say.
We're leaving them behind. If we're fine with doing so and believe in our numbers to be sufficient for holographic change, all shall be good but so far I haven't seen numbers. It's a phantom presence so far, who will actually be 'there' (intention or space) is another question.

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-Summarized, there is nothing wrong to express your thoughts and feelings. Otherwise you became prisoner inside your own mental cage. The freedom comes when you stop bother what other people will say about your actions and when you express your uniqueness.
Erm, thank you. I know.

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-One other thing is that we live in a reality that has holographic nature. What we see and feel is all in pictures and gates just as the same as Windows in the Microsoft Windows platform.
I AM with you here. More than you might think, but when I learned one thing to be true from experience than it is the importance of balance. Dealing with this from a purely spiritual end, is NOT balanced.

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-You can jump from picture to picture and you can transmit your thoughts, feelings and energy thought it. For now it is to premature to deliver this kind of knowledge, because this is step by step process. I will deliver some other useful info when I will have time, and then we will progress as we go.
Now, call me impatient, but this is the second time I hear that info isn't given out to us, the first being the last time I asked about the Fire the Grid syphoning.
To be clear, I don't know how this works, and I am glad to see that you guys try to answer these questions. However, if this is the idealistic self-organising group that this claims to be then in my perception that would also mean that each member must have the possibility to inform her/himself to the same degree that everyone else is. Otherwise, I doubt that you can call this 'leaderless', which you so insisted on in the first place.

I don't have the scientific understanding to evaluate all those statements, to me they are nice stories that somehow try to make me understand a concept of how it works, but really it's been proven more than enough that scientifically proven doesn't mean it's true. Don't believe a statistic unless you faked it yourself.
So what I do is that I listen to what is said carefully, consider all possible but nothing certain. I'm fine with trust but I also watch the dynamics behind the people that I trust ESPECIALLY online. Sometimes I get the feeling that we're blindly following and call this a 'non-hierarchical' because anyone can throw a link or an opinion in and contribute.

In that sense, let's carry on and take this to its limits, I'm motivated as hell to get it out there, but my eyes are wide open. 0_0

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-There is always network beyond this forum. And this will not go down. So keep up with the good vibe.
Well, if you promise it won't go down, then I believe you of course.
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So what I do is that I listen to what is said carefully, consider all possible but nothing certain. I'm fine with trust but I also watch the dynamics behind the people that I trust ESPECIALLY online.

Something advisable to do.....
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The teachings of Don Juan

Anything is one of a million paths. Therefore you must always keep in mind that a path is only a path; if you feel you should not follow it, you must not stay with it under any conditions. To have such clarity you must lead a disciplined life. Only then will you know that any path is only a path and there is no affront, to oneself or to others, in dropping it if that is what your heart tells you to do. But your decision to keep on the path or to leave it must be free of fear or ambition. I warn you. Look at every path closely and deliberately. Try it as many times as you think necessary.
This question is one that only a very old man asks. Does this path have a heart? All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. They are paths going through the bush, or into the bush. In my own life I could say I have traversed long long paths, but I am not anywhere. Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you.

Before you embark on any path ask the question: Does this path have a heart? If the answer is no, you will know it, and then you must choose another path. The trouble is nobody asks the question; and when a man finally realizes that he has taken a path without a heart, the path is ready to kill him. At that point very few men can stop to deliberate, and leave the path. A path without a heart is never enjoyable. You have to work hard even to take it. On the other hand, a path with heart is easy; it does not make you work at liking it.
I have told you that to choose a path you must be free from fear and ambition. The desire to learn is not ambition. It is our lot as men to want to know.
The path without a heart will turn against men and destroy them. It does not take much to die, and to seek death is to seek nothing.

For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have a heart, on any path that may have a heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse its full length. And there I travel--looking, looking, breathlessly.


Why do I walk the nexus project ? Because it's a path which has a heart.
How do I know it has a heart ? Because I am not forced to walk it , I am not forced to support it , I am not asked anything ..not even to believe in it..

I travel it with my heart and I see other hearts around me going in the same direction ...
I am not expecting the whole of humanity to travel the way with me or to adhere to it as I do..
Convincing others is not part of it..Invite them to come in on their own free will is part of it..
And the ones which will come along will open the road for the ones who are left aside..

We can't process a" heart " project through the censure of the mind because for the mind it will never be good enough..

Czimra if you feel you can present it better though and get new people to come by doing so you are free to do this.
You probably also have the ability to do it.You seem to have a clear idea about it .
Go ahead and become an excellent mediator.We probably can learn something from your talent there.

But really it doesn't matter how many we will be to begin with ..
What matters is the purity of our intention and our heartfelt resonance with this project
We just have to let it start and it will grow nicely as it gains reality and experience.

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The teachings of Don Juan

Anything is one of a million paths. Therefore you must always keep in mind that a path is only a path; if you feel you should not follow it, you must not stay with it under any conditions. To have such clarity you must lead a disciplined life. Only then will you know that any path is only a path and there is no affront, to oneself or to others, in dropping it if that is what your heart tells you to do. But your decision to keep on the path or to leave it must be free of fear or ambition. I warn you. Look at every path closely and deliberately. Try it as many times as you think necessary.
This question is one that only a very old man asks. Does this path have a heart? All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. They are paths going through the bush, or into the bush. In my own life I could say I have traversed long long paths, but I am not anywhere. Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you.

Before you embark on any path ask the question: Does this path have a heart? If the answer is no, you will know it, and then you must choose another path. The trouble is nobody asks the question; and when a man finally realizes that he has taken a path without a heart, the path is ready to kill him. At that point very few men can stop to deliberate, and leave the path. A path without a heart is never enjoyable. You have to work hard even to take it. On the other hand, a path with heart is easy; it does not make you work at liking it.
I have told you that to choose a path you must be free from fear and ambition. The desire to learn is not ambition. It is our lot as men to want to know.
The path without a heart will turn against men and destroy them. It does not take much to die, and to seek death is to seek nothing.

For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have a heart, on any path that may have a heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse its full length. And there I travel--looking, looking, breathlessly.


Why do I walk the nexus project ? Because it's a path which has a heart.
How do I know it has a heart ? Because I am not forced to walk it , I am not forced to support it , I am not asked anything ..not even to believe in it..

I travel it with my heart and I see other hearts around me going in the same direction ...
I am not expecting the whole of humanity to travel the way with me or to adhere to it as I do..
Convincing others is not part of it..Invite them to come in on their own free will is part of it..
And the ones which will come along will open the road for the ones who are left aside..

We can't process a" heart " project through the censure of the mind because for the mind it will never be good enough..

Czimra if you feel you can present it better though and get new people to come by doing so you are free to do this.
You probably also have the ability to do it.You seem to have a clear idea about it .
Go ahead and become an excellent mediator.We probably can learn something from your talent there.

But really it doesn't matter how many we will be to begin with ..
What matters is the purity of our intention and our heartfelt resonance with this project
We just have to let it start and it will grow nicely as it gains reality and experience.

kindness
mudra
Very wise message. It helps a lot when we are getting to the crossroads.
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Ok my friend. I respect your opinion.

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Very wise message. It helps a lot when we are getting to the crossroads.
Very wise indeed.

We can only thank Mudra as many others for keeping the vitality and high vibration of this thread.

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Hey hey hey...Guys, just please take a deep breath, all of you...please

Please don't get me wrong...I'm not the spokesman or lawyer of anyone here...

But:

First:

If any of us here is responsible enough (which I know we are, otherwise we wouldn't be here), then please know that no one who's ready to go ahead will be left behind.

Let me give you one simple example:
I will never allow to left behind my both children, which are both much more advanced that I'm (they just need a teacher, and I'm so happy I can teach them) ...and my wife.
And there's my bigest problem: my wife is a kind of person, well let's say, she's too grounded. Without proof, nothing is real.
No matter how hard I try to explain her what's going on in my head and what I'm trying to do, she requiers for proof...which I don't have any, at least not all the time And believe me, this is a hard job to do
Anyway, I won't give up. I'm on a good way, to at least show her that there is much more that she thinks there is on this planet.

Further:

I'm the last one who will allow to be leaded, or influenced, which I already mentioned so far. Well yes, I also must trust someone, but I only trust ME.
This is nothing new and has been said here so many times, so I don't want to repeat this once again...but we must trust ourselves first.
If all that has been posted here resonates with ME, I'll stay here and try to contribute with something I'm good in.

Am I still here? YES!!! I hope you know and understand what I mean...

Sure, no one requires that we all MUST be on the same level of consciousness. Not now, not on this level, not on this plane, call it whatever you want. But we will be once...

I personaly know some other people (humans) out there, who doesn't even know that this forum exist, who's consciousness is much higher that mine...and yours...
And they will only earn my respect at the moment they will step forward and tell the world what they know and tell us how to achieve that higher state of consciousness.

If the question is: Do I know any, who already step forward and tell their thruth??
The answer is: YES!!! I know many! I know YOU!!

ALL of YOU here on this forum deserve to be respected for what YOU do:

namely stepping forward and tell your thruth!!!!

And as last:

Finding the ballance is something I know will bring us forward. The ballance in everything we do, say or even think.

So once again, I must appeal to all of you here: please find your inner ballance, don't allow your mind and your ego to take the overhand.

And this include the most important thing: don't get all that has been said here too personaly.

Trust YOURSELF my friends. Know that the persons, who do not wish you well and try to harm you, will vanish. This happened so many times in my life, and I know it happened to all of you too.
Anyway, I don't hate them. Much more, I'm thankfull that I have learned something from them. I've learned their expiriences in order to get more ballanced.

Therefore, thank YOU all, for beeing here and let me expirience your expiriences.

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Inner Balance

I find inner balance walking a railroad track
Years of practice has turned this into a knack
Since elementary school i've enjoyed the rails
Sometimes i had more fun with them than my pals
I feel so calm and collected in my solitude
It brightens my day with a heightened attitude
I sway my arms to the left and to the right
To an observer i must look like a bird in flight
Rarely do i fall off but if that be the case
I hop right back on with a smile on my face
I don't judge the faulty step instead i just laugh
It keeps my spirits high like the head of a giraffe
Each step that i take i watch down below
For i seek not to harm any creature fellow
Ants and caterpillars join me at their own pace
Unlike the tortoise and the hare this is not a race
I have walked for miles 'til my eyes begin to blur
My mind goes blank, not a single thought does stir
The outer and the inner dissolve into one
My heart rejoices, i am at peace, i am done

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Wisely said Malletzky and beautifully turned into poetry Alchemikey
Thank you for reminding us we are a family.
I am sure we are the ones we have been waiting for ..
Just needs a little attunement but basically I feel we all travel in the same direction .
I sincerely respect all of you here.

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