Savitri

Luminari · 03-16-2009, 02:02 AM

Thank you for posting this.. I have heard of Sri Aurobindo and The Mother, but have not learnt their teachings before.

I will read the book.
The audio was too difficult to listen to, with deepest respect to The Mother.. her voice was far too distracting to be able to hear the message clearly,
deep Seth-like dramatic voice with an intense vibrato effect, not to mention thick german accent on words frequently used such as 'surrender'. How is it that she has a german accent? the information I found below does not mention that:

Mirra Alfassa, later Mirra Morisset and Mirra Richard (February 21, 1878 - November 17, 1973), also known as The Mother, was the spiritual partner of Sri Aurobindo.

She was born in Paris to Turkish and Egyptian parents and came to Sri Aurobindo's retreat on March 29, 1914 in Pondicherry to collaborate on editing the Arya. Having to leave Pondicherry during the War, she spent most of her time in Japan where she met the poet Rabindranath Tagore. Finally she returned to Pondicherry and settled there in 1920. After November 24, 1926, when Sri Aurobindo retired into seclusion, she founded his ashram (Sri Aurobindo Ashram), with a handful of disciples living around the Master. With Sri Aurobindo's full approval she became the leader of the community, a position she held until her death. The Trust she had registered after Sri Aurobindo's death in 1950 continues to look after the institution.

avyaktam · 03-16-2009, 02:43 AM

I will read the book

Idee, maybe we can channel it.

I am the Mystery beyond reach of mind,
I am the goal of the travail of the suns;
My fire and sweetness are the cause of life.
But too immense my danger and my joy.
Awake not the immeasurable descent,
Speak not my secret name to hostile Time;
Man is too weak to bear the Infinite’s weight.
Truth born too soon might break the imperfect earth.

bye, Savitri

avyaktam · 03-16-2009, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminari

The audio was too difficult to listen to, with deepest respect to The Mother.. her voice was far to distacting to be able to hear the message clearly,
deep Seth-like dramatic voice with an intense vibrato effect, not to mention thick german accent on words frequently used such as 'surrender'. How is it that she has a german accent? the information I found below does not mention that:

I'm sorry to hear that the audio is so bad. From the mp3 I uploaded it from, I can understand clearly, although it comes from an old tape recording. It is not German but French that you hear there.

This book is not yet published as pdf. I could do an OCR for a "transcript".

Luminari · 03-16-2009, 04:19 AM

Thank you though! the audio quality is fine, just the very strange voice.. I've never heard that level of vibrato in a human voice, it does indeed sound like channeling. Sorry my mistake re: the french accent, I work with french people and specialise in french wine, but her voice did convey a guttural german aspect to me.. my mistake. I am a culture-lacking Australian after all

I would be interested to learn more about Sri Aurobindo from you in the future!

and any other enlightening liturgies from other indian wise men..

Yogananda

Sai Baba

What do you know of Babaji?

The beautiful works of Rumi and Tagore..

I have much to learn, feel free to point me in some of the right directions.

avyaktam · 03-16-2009, 04:57 AM

I'm only aurobindonian.

Saj Baba is not at all my thing.

For me, to start understanding the Mystery of this world, to know this angle is crucial information.
Pointers are already there.

He talks about the Involution and the Evolution, that is an evolution of consciousness, and the necessity of the transformation that will lead via various forms of the superman to the coming of the Supramental race, self-manifesting the truth of it's own substance. Sri Aurobindo estimated that at least 300 years would be needed for this, and said he would come back as the first Supramental being. A lot of work for 300 year.
There was a huge inrush of hostile forces into the earth plane last century in an attempt to hinder the Work, so he had to stop, delay his work to intervene into the world wars which were supported by the most powerfull Asura there exists, one that was there before the gods. Here a quote on how the Mother occultly handled Hitler.

January 12, 1965
(Regarding an old "Playground Talk" of March 8, 1951, in which Mother spoke of the being that possessed and "guided" Hitler: "Hitler was in contact with a being whom he considered to be the Supreme: that being would come and give him advice and tell him all that he had to do. Hitler would withdraw into solitude and wait long enough to come into contact with his 'guide' and receive inspirations from him which he would afterwards carry out very faithfully. That being whom Hitler took for the Supreme was quite simply an Asura, the one called in occultism 'the Lord of Falsehood,' and he proclaimed himself to be 'the Lord of Nations.' He had a resplendent appearance and could pull the wool over anyone's eyes, except one who truly had occult knowledge and could thus see what was there, behind the appearance. He could have deluded anyone, he was so splendid. He generally appeared to Hitler wearing a breast-plate and a silver helmet (with a sort of flame coming out of his head), and there was around him an atmosphere of dazzling light, so dazzling that Hitler could hardly look at him. He would tell him all that he had to do - he would play with him as with a monkey or a mouse. He had set his mind on making Hitler do all possible kinds of folly ... until the day when he would come a cropper, which is what happened. But there are many cases like that one, on a smaller scale, naturally. Hitler was a very good medium, he had great mediumistic capacities, but he lacked intelligence and discernment. That being could tell him anything and he would swallow it all. That's what prodded him on little by little. And that being would do that as a pastime, he didn't take life seriously. For those beings, people are very small things with which they play as a cat plays with a mouse, until the day when they eat them up.")
I knew that being very well (for other reasons ... the story would be too long to tell), and once, I knew he was going to visit Hitler - I went before he did: I took his appearance, it was very easy. Then I said to Hitler, "Go and attack Russia." I don't exactly remember the words or the details, but the fact was that I told him, "Go ... In order to have the supreme victory, go and attack Russia." That was the end of Hitler. He believed it and did it - two days later, we got the news of the attack.[[The lightning offensive of June 22, 1941. ]] And then, the next day, that is, when I came back from Hitler, I met that being and told him, "I've done your job!" Naturally enough, he was furious!
But all the same, in that consciousness, there is with that being (the Lord of Falsehood, one of the first four Emanations), there is despite everything a very deep relationship, of course. He said to me, "I know, I know I will be defeated eventually, but before my end comes I will wreak as much destruction on earth as I can."

Then, as I told you, the next day, the news of the attack came, and that was really the end of Hitler.
As for Sri Aurobindo ... (you know that there is a place in Russia where they were defeated[[Stalingrad, on February 2, 1943. ]]), Sri Aurobindo had foreseen the defeat and had worked the night before, and that's how it happened - we knew ALL THE DETAILS.
We never told this, of course, but it was perfectly precise.
But I knew that being, I had already seen him in Japan - he called himself "the Lord of Nations." And he really was a form of the Asura of Falsehood, that is, of Truth which became Falsehood: the first Emanation of Truth, who became Falsehood.
And he hasn't been destroyed yet.

03-16-2009, 05:08 AM

Thanks from me too, avyaktam. I have the link, and for others' information it's 763pp for download.

avyaktam · 03-16-2009, 05:47 AM

U are

03-16-2009, 09:36 AM

Hi,

I have some friends in auroville, been there since the seventies I think. They work on the water purification and how meditation and leylines effect them. Here is a link to the Auroville main page. They have a very good radio that is free of charge. Good for practical info and eco building.

http://www.auroville.org/

Radio link
http://ww.aurovilleradio.org
Aurobindu was a sound man, got alot of stick from the British and was one of the liberators of India. Top man.

03-16-2009, 02:02 AM	#1
Luminari Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,570	Re: Savitri Thank you for posting this.. I have heard of Sri Aurobindo and The Mother, but have not learnt their teachings before. I will read the book. The audio was too difficult to listen to, with deepest respect to The Mother.. her voice was far too distracting to be able to hear the message clearly, deep Seth-like dramatic voice with an intense vibrato effect, not to mention thick german accent on words frequently used such as 'surrender'. How is it that she has a german accent? the information I found below does not mention that: Mirra Alfassa, later Mirra Morisset and Mirra Richard (February 21, 1878 - November 17, 1973), also known as The Mother, was the spiritual partner of Sri Aurobindo. She was born in Paris to Turkish and Egyptian parents and came to Sri Aurobindo's retreat on March 29, 1914 in Pondicherry to collaborate on editing the Arya. Having to leave Pondicherry during the War, she spent most of her time in Japan where she met the poet Rabindranath Tagore. Finally she returned to Pondicherry and settled there in 1920. After November 24, 1926, when Sri Aurobindo retired into seclusion, she founded his ashram (Sri Aurobindo Ashram), with a handful of disciples living around the Master. With Sri Aurobindo's full approval she became the leader of the community, a position she held until her death. The Trust she had registered after Sri Aurobindo's death in 1950 continues to look after the institution. Last edited by Luminari; 03-16-2009 at 04:13 AM.

03-16-2009, 02:43 AM	#2
avyaktam Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Auroville, India Posts: 268	Re: Savitri I will read the book Idee, maybe we can channel it. I am the Mystery beyond reach of mind, I am the goal of the travail of the suns; My fire and sweetness are the cause of life. But too immense my danger and my joy. Awake not the immeasurable descent, Speak not my secret name to hostile Time; Man is too weak to bear the Infinite’s weight. Truth born too soon might break the imperfect earth. bye, Savitri Last edited by avyaktam; 03-16-2009 at 02:50 AM.

03-16-2009, 04:19 AM	#4
Luminari Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,570	Re: Savitri Thank you though! the audio quality is fine, just the very strange voice.. I've never heard that level of vibrato in a human voice, it does indeed sound like channeling. Sorry my mistake re: the french accent, I work with french people and specialise in french wine, but her voice did convey a guttural german aspect to me.. my mistake. I am a culture-lacking Australian after all I would be interested to learn more about Sri Aurobindo from you in the future! and any other enlightening liturgies from other indian wise men.. Yogananda Sai Baba What do you know of Babaji? The beautiful works of Rumi and Tagore.. I have much to learn, feel free to point me in some of the right directions. Last edited by Luminari; 03-16-2009 at 04:23 AM.

03-16-2009, 04:57 AM	#5
avyaktam Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Auroville, India Posts: 268	Re: Savitri I'm only aurobindonian. Saj Baba is not at all my thing. For me, to start understanding the Mystery of this world, to know this angle is crucial information. Pointers are already there. He talks about the Involution and the Evolution, that is an evolution of consciousness, and the necessity of the transformation that will lead via various forms of the superman to the coming of the Supramental race, self-manifesting the truth of it's own substance. Sri Aurobindo estimated that at least 300 years would be needed for this, and said he would come back as the first Supramental being. A lot of work for 300 year. There was a huge inrush of hostile forces into the earth plane last century in an attempt to hinder the Work, so he had to stop, delay his work to intervene into the world wars which were supported by the most powerfull Asura there exists, one that was there before the gods. Here a quote on how the Mother occultly handled Hitler. January 12, 1965 (Regarding an old "Playground Talk" of March 8, 1951, in which Mother spoke of the being that possessed and "guided" Hitler: "Hitler was in contact with a being whom he considered to be the Supreme: that being would come and give him advice and tell him all that he had to do. Hitler would withdraw into solitude and wait long enough to come into contact with his 'guide' and receive inspirations from him which he would afterwards carry out very faithfully. That being whom Hitler took for the Supreme was quite simply an Asura, the one called in occultism 'the Lord of Falsehood,' and he proclaimed himself to be 'the Lord of Nations.' He had a resplendent appearance and could pull the wool over anyone's eyes, except one who truly had occult knowledge and could thus see what was there, behind the appearance. He could have deluded anyone, he was so splendid. He generally appeared to Hitler wearing a breast-plate and a silver helmet (with a sort of flame coming out of his head), and there was around him an atmosphere of dazzling light, so dazzling that Hitler could hardly look at him. He would tell him all that he had to do - he would play with him as with a monkey or a mouse. He had set his mind on making Hitler do all possible kinds of folly ... until the day when he would come a cropper, which is what happened. But there are many cases like that one, on a smaller scale, naturally. Hitler was a very good medium, he had great mediumistic capacities, but he lacked intelligence and discernment. That being could tell him anything and he would swallow it all. That's what prodded him on little by little. And that being would do that as a pastime, he didn't take life seriously. For those beings, people are very small things with which they play as a cat plays with a mouse, until the day when they eat them up.") I knew that being very well (for other reasons ... the story would be too long to tell), and once, I knew he was going to visit Hitler - I went before he did: I took his appearance, it was very easy. Then I said to Hitler, "Go and attack Russia." I don't exactly remember the words or the details, but the fact was that I told him, "Go ... In order to have the supreme victory, go and attack Russia." That was the end of Hitler. He believed it and did it - two days later, we got the news of the attack.[[The lightning offensive of June 22, 1941. ]] And then, the next day, that is, when I came back from Hitler, I met that being and told him, "I've done your job!" Naturally enough, he was furious! But all the same, in that consciousness, there is with that being (the Lord of Falsehood, one of the first four Emanations), there is despite everything a very deep relationship, of course. He said to me, "I know, I know I will be defeated eventually, but before my end comes I will wreak as much destruction on earth as I can." Then, as I told you, the next day, the news of the attack came, and that was really the end of Hitler. As for Sri Aurobindo ... (you know that there is a place in Russia where they were defeated[[Stalingrad, on February 2, 1943. ]]), Sri Aurobindo had foreseen the defeat and had worked the night before, and that's how it happened - we knew ALL THE DETAILS. We never told this, of course, but it was perfectly precise. But I knew that being, I had already seen him in Japan - he called himself "the Lord of Nations." And he really was a form of the Asura of Falsehood, that is, of Truth which became Falsehood: the first Emanation of Truth, who became Falsehood. And he hasn't been destroyed yet. Last edited by avyaktam; 03-16-2009 at 06:27 AM.

03-16-2009, 05:08 AM	#6
no caste Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Savitri Thanks from me too, avyaktam. I have the link, and for others' information it's 763pp for download.

03-16-2009, 05:47 AM	#7
avyaktam Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Auroville, India Posts: 268	Re: Savitri U are

03-16-2009, 09:36 AM	#8
lawlessline Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Savitri Hi, I have some friends in auroville, been there since the seventies I think. They work on the water purification and how meditation and leylines effect them. Here is a link to the Auroville main page. They have a very good radio that is free of charge. Good for practical info and eco building. http://www.auroville.org/ Radio link http://ww.aurovilleradio.org Aurobindu was a sound man, got alot of stick from the British and was one of the liberators of India. Top man.