Is This The Final Call For Saving Planet Earth?

[avyaktam]

No. it is propaganda.

[Starlah]

Originally Posted by avyaktam

No. it is propaganda.

There is no doubt on the fact that the Greenland Ice Sheet is melting and at this time extensive research is being conducted by scientists on how much of the ice is melting and the speed at which it is melting contributing to a possible 3ft. rise in sea levels by 2100.
Factor all this in with earthquakes and tsunamis you will see millions affected in low lying coastal regions with major cities wiped out.
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When the going gets tough, the tough get going...Unknown

[Dominic]

I do not buy the global warming at all.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Dominic

I do not buy the global warming at all.

It does not matter if you buy it or not. It is happening.

Just do not tell people who are personally affected by global changes that you do not believe in what's happening to them.

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by Dominic

I do not buy the global warming at all.

Nor me

[Karen]

Dear Sweet Starlah,

This is scam, one purpose of which is to put a global carbon tax on every human activity on earth.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...alwarming.html

Video
The Great Global Warming Swindle
http://www.viddler.com/explore/micheleforan/videos/2/

The Amazing Story Behind the Global Warming Scam By John Coleman
January 28, 2009 (Revised and edited February 11, 2009)
http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemans.../38574742.html
Be sure to look up John Coleman's writing on other social engineering programs out of such institutions as Tavistock

http://www.whale.to/b/tavistock6.html
According to John Coleman, the elite has been writing and directing the script for almost hundred years at the "Tavistock Institute of Human Relations" based in London.
(Coleman http://www.greatdreams.com/coleman.html)

We have been conned. Many scientists believe things are much better for life on Earth with a slightly warmer temperature and higher CO2 levels. The plants love and flourish in higher CO2. And they respire to increase the oxygen levels. There are places where the polar ice sheets are building up.
Stranded Polar Bear Hoax
http://newsbusters.org/node/11879

The Earth and all the planets in our system *were* warming up because the sun was more active with sunspots. "Were" because now the sun has been very quiet and last I checked was still late in it's normal cycle to increase the sunspots again. During the last two winters, the Northern states in the USA have experienced brutally cold and snowy weather. And similar conditions of cooling have been reported from all over the globe.
http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemans.../38574742.html

Plus we are in a galactic cycle where many things are going to change. The energetic field of space at this point changes and no one really know what happens next.

Realizing that global warming is a scam should be no excuse to not work to clean up our act on this planet. I am alarmed at the 100's of thousands of chemicals being produced and spewed into air and water and slathered onto our bodies to be absorbed and disturb our health.

The world controllers had meetings where they wrote up plans to con us with environmental tales of woe to make us feel guilty that it is our fault. Now we will have to pay global "carbon taxes" for the privilege of breathing the air, driving our cars, and manufacturing our modern conveniences. It is our fault so we must decrease our numbers, stop having children, suicide ourselves, for the sake of the planet. It's mostly lies. Humans might contribute 3% to global warming.

They con us on the left, they con us on the right, they con us from cradle to grave, and from up to down. Vaccines are horrible poisons, and cause life-long degenerative illness. They did little to lower incidence of disease. Polio was nearly naturally extinguished before the vaccine and most cases after that were vaccine caused. Increased hygiene and nutrition are probably what lowered infectious disease rates. The education systems are designed to dumb us down - the religious systems to control us - the political systems are a total joke. And Al Gore is bought and paid for and espouses bad science.

And then we have the weather wars compliments of the insane people in control of the planet.
http://www.stevequayle.com/books/Weather_Wars.html
http://www.ecoenquirer.com/weather-wars.htm
http://www.stevequayle.com/News.aler...War.index.html

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Starlah

There is no doubt on the fact that the Greenland Ice Sheet is melting and at this time extensive research is being conducted by scientists on how much of the ice is melting and the speed at which it is melting contributing to a possible 3ft. rise in sea levels by 2100.
Factor all this in with earthquakes and tsunamis you will see millions affected in low lying coastal regions with major cities wiped out.
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When the going gets tough, the tough get going...Unknown

recent studies show that the ice in Arctica is getting thicker and the population of polar bears has increased. of course i do not know who conducted the research ,in the sense what their agenda is.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by avyaktam

No. it is propaganda.

What's propaganda? The deaths of people worldwide from the increased intensity of disasters? If you believe that's propaganda, then there's something very wrong with you.

There is no more time to dicker over the cause of these global changes. We ran out of time a long time ago. There's no more time for the "OMG Global warming is a hoax! OMG!" threads and posts on here.

We have to face the reality of what's happening and no matter what you believe or what you call it, it's happening.

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

What's propaganda? The deaths of people worldwide from the increased intensity of disasters? If you believe that's propaganda, then there's something very wrong with you.

There is no more time to dicker over the cause of these global changes. We ran out of time a long time ago. There's no more time for the "OMG Global warming is a hoax! OMG!" threads and posts on here.

We have to face the reality of what's happening and no matter what you believe or what you call it, it's happening.

No matter what you believe or what you call it ....

Hmmm, it would appear someone is not as humble as ones name would suggest.

You have to remember HJ that EVERYONE is entitled to a belief of their choosing - whether YOU believe it to be wrong or right. Whilst putting your own point across, your above sentence is very dismissive of others beliefs.


Peace
Iain

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

What's propaganda? The deaths of people worldwide from the increased intensity of disasters? If you believe that's propaganda, then there's something very wrong with you.

There is no more time to dicker over the cause of these global changes. We ran out of time a long time ago. There's no more time for the "OMG Global warming is a hoax! OMG!" threads and posts on here.

We have to face the reality of what's happening and no matter what you believe or what you call it, it's happening.

The storms, etc. are real. The cause is up for debate. And for good reason.

Let's say the planet is warming, as are all the other planets in our solar system, due to a galactic cycle. There is NOTHING anyone can do about this, but prepare. Let's say the government knows this is the truth of the matter, but are hiding it from the "useless eaters", because they are so dumbed down, all they will do is panic and cause chaos. They deserve to stay in the coastal areas and die as the ice caps melt and the sea levels rise. And they are causing global warming, so it's good that they die. But ... why does our USA gov have major operations in mile high Denver, Colorado, ready to switch it over the the center of the fed gov?

Now a government that cared about it's people, that knew this was coming, would begin relocating people to higher ground, not telling them to turn in your automobile for a bicycle or walk everywhere, etc. etc.

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Now let's say the earth and all the planets in our solar system were heating up, but now because there have been no (or low numbers, not sure which) sunspots, the last two years are showing a cooling trend. Do we keep planning action like the temperature is just going up, up, up??? Maybe people should be relocating to the Southern states.

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Then we have our moron leaders playing weather wars and spewing chemtrails in the sky. They can rev up hurricanes and steer them!!! They have probably caused many of the large earthquakes. Maybe that huge tsunami around Christmas time a few years back was a war game where they dropped a nuke at just the right place on the ocean floor. Arrest these people and put them in jail so they can quit harming millions of people!!!
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/tsunami.html

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Then there is the prediction that the sun is soon going to send out a huge flare and you will need to be underground in order to survive. Or if the galactic forces are going to flip the planet and there will be 300 MPH winds - nothing will be left standing. People should be building underground for that.

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It matters why. It matters a lot. The mainstream info is lies, lies, lies. Dietary cholesterol does not cause heart disease. Cholesterol is used to make your brain and your nerves. Use an enzyme to clean our your arteries instead of heart bypass surgery. Sea salt is not your enemy, and low-salt diets are harming many people. Sodium is essential for numerous systems in the body. And on and on, thousands of lies. 97% of global warming is not caused by humans, but by the position of our solar system in the galaxy. And when you shine the light of truth on their stinkin' lies, they can't get away with it anymore.

Maybe this planet is just set up for maximal suffering and harvest of "loosh."
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1064
montalk wrote: Loosh - another term for lifeforce/emotional/spiritual energy. Term coined by Robert Monroe in his astral voyages where, upon interacting with nonphysical entities, he learned this energy was called "loosh" and that mankind was being farmed for this energy.

Just a clarification about that, though. A common misconception about this Loosh harvesting often arises from people only telling one side of that story. Whereas Monroe initially fell into a rather severe depression when he discovered this system, he later was shown exactly how this Loosh energy was being utilized. I'm going to give a quick review of it because it is definitely worthy of consideration. Bear in mind though that, as Bob himself was told, it is hard to put universal processes into a perspective that can be unequivocally understood by our human minds.

Earth, it would appear, was the creation of a "Someone" coming from "Somewhere" for the purposes of cultivating this Loosh harvest. Apparently, Loosh is of great value in Somewhere, but is relatively scarce and hard to find. This Someone coming from Somewhere was the being/entity/intelligence that created the Earth Life System that we see in effect upon this planet today. In the course of experimentation, it was discovered that Loosh was emitted in a very unrefined state as a natural by-product of the carbon/oxygen life cycle taking place on Earth.

Keep reading here:
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1064

[Connecting with Sauce]

Superb post Karen... inline with my thinking from my research too... not heard of loosh but will know about it soon thanks Also saves me typing similar things...

The book below "Apocalypse 2012: An Optimist investigates..." covers many of these topics and the Author Lawrence E. Joseph discusses these topics with specialists in each of these fields, a good read.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apocalypse-2...7985730&sr=1-1

A few years ago I looked into the green eco thing and have the most fuel efficient car out, a Honda Insight (the original 2 seater aluminium version 80+mpg 80g CO2 from petrol) , it is a great littler car but I know CO2 is a global tax scam but still drive it because if fuel does spike to $200+ a barrel I will still be able to drive around economically... I will keep it until free energy devices are no longer surpressed (WANG, Tesla etc) and we start to do the right thing as a human race... I was also looking into eco houses etc but am holding fire until I know where to build which has a chance of being safe... Morroco and the Atlas Mountains is one of my places I need to visit soon There's a yoga school there

John

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Karen

The storms, etc. are real. The cause is up for debate. And for good reason.

I respectively disagree. We don't have time to argue over this. We can argue about it until we are all blue in the face. By then, there will be NOTHING left of this planet.

Originally Posted by iainl140285

No matter what you believe or what you call it Hmmm, it would appear someone is not as humble as ones name would suggest.

If I were you, I would not resort to personal attacks. Congratulations on lowering yourself.

You have to remember HJ that EVERYONE is entitled to a belief of their choosing - whether YOU believe it to be wrong or right. Whilst putting your own point across, your above sentence is very dismissive of others beliefs.

Are you not being dismissive of my belief as well?

I take issue with people calling something very real a hoax. They are dismissing the earth changes because they do not "believe" in them. I find this morally repugnant and it does not take into account the suffering of others.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I respectively disagree. We don't have time to argue over this. We can argue about it until we are all blue in the face. By then, there will be NOTHING left of this planet.

There is nothing we can do about the position of our solar system in the galaxy,
http://www.thehorizonproject.com/news.cfm
and if you look at all the evidence, that appears to be the cause of the global/solar system warming. One reason for warming ocean waters is more volcanic activity on the ocean floor.

I agree we do need to clean up our messes and our future actions, but that is not going to change the storms, earthquakes and tsunamis that are causing so much suffering and death.

The plot to reduce and tax our "carbon footprint" is not going to help anything or anyone but the plotter$. Al Gore had it backwards when he claims the CO2 goes up and then the warming happens. Actually the earth records clearly show that the temperature goes up first then the CO2 goes up. As Dan said, it is natural for the earth to be constantly changing. In Oregon, not too far from me, is the John Day Fossil Beds. 40 Million years of climate change are layered and documented there. 1) Clarno Formation (50 - 35 mya) evergreen tropical to subtropical forests. All the animal life in this layer is extinct. 2) John Day Formation (37 - 20 mya) A volcanic period with deciduous forests 3) Mascall Formation (15 - 12 mya) This is a warmer, wetter period which supported a lush mixture of hardwood forest and open savanna grassland. 4) Rattlesnake Formation (8 - 6 mya) a dry, cool climate that was dominated by grasslands. More info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Da...ional_Monument

Here's a productive idea - We could change the agenda of the the meeting discussed in the original post to plan the arrest, conviction, and lock up of the big boys that play with the weather war and earthquake toys, which I think were responsible for how big the Katrina storm became (and many others.) Some say the levy broke because it was dynamited. It was a way of blaming it on Katrina and getting all the poor black folk out of the area so the corporations can go in and rebuild this critical seaport area. I dunno how true that is. I absolutely believe that the devastating Christmas tsunami was caused by TPTB humans.

I like what J Rod and 777 have to say and I'd like to hear more. I like expanding my knowledge base on topics such as this. I think I'll do as Sara suggests also and check out the Nexus thread again.

The Dan Winter material I've been viewing and reading points to the fact that our destiny if we go with this flow will be much bigger than staying on earth. We can use our heart and our imploding ignited DNA to become star navigators and heal that "fall" talked about in the Bible.

Love is who we are,
Karen

[Soulmate7]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

What's propaganda? The deaths of people worldwide from the increased intensity of disasters? If you believe that's propaganda, then there's something very wrong with you.

There is no more time to dicker over the cause of these global changes. We ran out of time a long time ago. There's no more time for the "OMG Global warming is a hoax! OMG!" threads and posts on here.

We have to face the reality of what's happening and no matter what you believe or what you call it, it's happening.

Once again it's the same one against the rest...

Is global warming caused by us? If "yes", why are all the other planets in our solar system warming up? Are there cars on Venus, factories on Saturn and cow sh*t on Mars?

The trick was to sell it to the masses via Hollywood. You then arrange that Illuminati-Gore wins the Oscar and it's a done deal, except to some who see through the lies.

The global warming caused-by-humans hoax is getting old and boring.

I'll go one step further: The farce most here call "the election" back in 2000, was a comedy aimed at making Gore world famous. Gore's green plans were written long before anyone knew he was going to be a candidate for the election.

[777 The Great Work]

Whats taking place with the sun is also taking place in man. Heat is needed durring in cube ation. AS ABOVE SO BELOW

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

Whats taking place with the sun is also taking place in man. Heat is needed durring in cube ation. AS ABOVE SO BELOW

You know, heat can mmake a person go crazy!
The more I look around the more crazy I see


Iain

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

What's propaganda? The deaths of people worldwide from the increased intensity of disasters? If you believe that's propaganda, then there's something very wrong with you.

There is no more time to dicker over the cause of these global changes. We ran out of time a long time ago. There's no more time for the "OMG Global warming is a hoax! OMG!" threads and posts on here.

We have to face the reality of what's happening and no matter what you believe or what you call it, it's happening.

maybe soon we'll find out that there is something wrong with you....

[Anthony4acre]

Too bad,
If the world governments didn't constantly lie & did really want to prevent the so called global warming they could have had free energy technologies up running years ago.
Instead of ripping off the public & giving money away to greedy bankers & polluting car manufactures. They could have offered $100Billion to the first company that makes a free energy car. You will see all the manufactures pulling out secret project files & you would have an announcement in less then 2 weeks along with a prototype running in a month.
I'll take my chances with Nibiru in 2012, Not some silly lie about man made C02,

Anthony.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Anthony4acre

Too bad,

I'll take my chances with Nibiru in 2012, Not some silly lie about man made C02,

Anthony.

Quite possible Nibiru was that huge object that entered our solar system in 2003 and was expelled with a trmendous force by a sun flare.

[Dantheman62]

Sorry Swanny and Dominic but there is global warming, but wait before you shoot me!
Think for a minute, it doesn't mean it's going to keep getting hotter and hotter until we melt, it's just part of a cycle that the earth has gone through time and time again.

It's just that now we're able to see it and measure it, and we've got people and instruments and cameras all over the world watching this happen, where as 200 years ago we didn't have any of that stuff.

There is ice melting in Greenland and Antarctica and there's plenty of pictures and tests to prove it. I think it's just part of normal cycles we've gone through hundreds of times in the past, who knows, next winter might be the coldest on record.

I would rather say "wow we sure had a warm winter last year huh!" instead of saying oh s...t it's global warming! LOL

Oh and good posts Karen!

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Sorry Swanny and Dominic but there is global warming, but wait before you shoot me!
Think for a minute, it doesn't mean it's going to keep getting hotter and hotter until we melt, it's just part of a cycle that the earth has gone through time and time again.

It's just that now we're able to see it and measure it, and we've got people and instruments and cameras all over the world watching this happen, where as 200 years ago we didn't have any of that stuff.

There is ice melting in Greenland and Antarctica and there's plenty of pictures and tests to prove it. I think it's just part of normal cycles we've gone through hundreds of times in the past, who knows, next winter might be the coldest on record.

I would rather say "wow we sure had a warm winter last year huh!" instead of saying oh s...t it's global warming! LOL

Oh and good posts Karen!

<< Malachi 4 >>
King James Bible

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1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.



<< Isaiah 30 >>
King James Bible

fall. 26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold,
as the light of seven days , in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound

[Dantheman62]

HaHa-eth 777eth, I don't knoweth what it meanseth, but I liketh the explodingeth smiley faceth's LOLeth!

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

HaHa-eth 777eth, I don't knoweth what it meanseth, but I liketh the explodingeth smiley faceth's LOLeth!

As above so below 7 chakras activated, and the sun increasing in temperture 7 times. who doesn't like xplosions, its the crossing of positive and negative energy.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

As above so below 7 chakras activated, and the sun increasing in temperture 7 times. who doesn't like xplosions, its the crossing of positive and negative energy.

Isn't fighting global warming, fighting people in a symbolic way? we are getting activated....

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by burgundia

Isn't fighting global warming, fighting people in a symbolic way? we are getting activated....

Condemming any of this process is takeing us out of alignment with the flow of the energy. All of the changes in the weather are reflections of changes in the human physche. Some of us will encrease with the flow and some will burn up from the heat. Our bodies are morphing into higher states of being ,and every cell is being activated.

The sun is king in this process. The sun is not what the average person think it is. Those who control information daily sends out propaganda regarding weather changes to keep us out of the flow. The sun cycles or in harmony with the pulse of life cycles.AS ABOVE SO BELOW never forget this axiom ,because it is truly a profound statement.Don't be against anything, allow the process. I don't think the catepillar is raising hell in his cocoon and trying to go back to eating leaves.