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Old 03-28-2009, 10:34 PM   #1
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Being a bushcrafter, I would probably try and get folks to consider be fire starting methods and to carry a firesteel. Nothing more reliable for food, warmth and water then a fire.
Yes, but what about the rest of their kit? an emergency suit to stop them getting cold and wet whilst they build that fire is as important as the actual fire. If they are soaking wet in a sleet storm and no water proofs, no amount of fire steel is going to dry them if they die of hypothermia first.
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:48 PM   #2
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As promised - I had to wait because I didn't have a link, and now I do.

http://www.gaelforcemarine.co.uk/Saf...rotection-Aid/

£10:95.

Bargain.
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Old 03-29-2009, 11:47 PM   #3
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Yes, but what about the rest of their kit? an emergency suit to stop them getting cold and wet whilst they build that fire is as important as the actual fire. If they are soaking wet in a sleet storm and no water proofs, no amount of fire steel is going to dry them if they die of hypothermia first.

Egg, dont ever rely on gimmicks, as you stated this was a wear once wonder, i would gladly swap my bushcraft skills and a firesteel for anything even if only costing 12 quid, does it repel sweat by the way?? as goretex does.

A good fire even if naked will warm you and stop the inset of hypothermia, sitting in a sweat ridden 12 quid piece of plastic will not. It will aid you in dying.

Spiritualism and hard faith, well i am an amature and need much advice from you lovely people as possible but, bushcraft i know the skills and live by them.
Wear it if you wish to run around and build a build a shelter and fire but me, no thanks, ill get down to me undies and then warm up thanks..
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Old 03-30-2009, 02:03 PM   #4
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Egg, dont ever rely on gimmicks, as you stated this was a wear once wonder,
Read the title. It is saying in so many words SURVIVAL BAG WITH A DIFFERENCE. Its an alternative to the old use once throw away orange bag.

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i would gladly swap my bushcraft skills and a firesteel for anything even if only costing 12 quid, does it repel sweat by the way?? as goretex does.
Goretex survival suit? yeah I have one for sailing across oceans and it cost $1400. As for the fire steel - nice bit of kit. Blast match is better though.

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A good fire even if naked will warm you and stop the inset of hypothermia, sitting in a sweat ridden 12 quid piece of plastic will not. It will aid you in dying.
Tell that to the poor people who die each year in the mountains and remote areas of the world each year because they had no thermal insulation / ability to get a layer over themselves.

Heres the thing - Could you strip naked in the pouring apalachian rain, and then start making your fire? I'll reserve mortuary space for you. This suit gives you an ability to move about and prepare in an emergency unlike the restrictive survival bag where you have to sit still and do nothing in.

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bushcraft i know the skills and live by them.
Wear it if you wish to run around and build a build a shelter and fire but me, no thanks, ill get down to me undies and then warm up thanks..
Well, glad you don't teach then. If you gave that advice in a maritime survival course you would be laughed at by every one there. As for running around - why run? if you have no pressing need to get out of the rain / weather, you can slow and surely complete your given tasks. Massive exertion builds sweat, a slow steady work rate would be easily wicked away by your base layer until the said fire is up and you can basha up and get your self together.
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