Questions for THEWATCHER

[Egg]

One last tbought - a psyops operator working in the area of UFO research? now that would be very handy if 'they' were able to get to and interview people with a 'friendly researcher' who just happens to be a psyops operative.



The more I think about this, the more my brain comes up with alternates to every thing you have written.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Egg

One last tbought - a psyops operator working in the area of UFO research? now that would be very handy if 'they' were able to get to and interview people with a 'friendly researcher' who just happens to be a psyops operative.



The more I think about this, the more my brain comes up with alternates to every thing you have written.

Egg, perhaps you are jumping to conclusions, jumping the gun. Believe or disbelieve all I have written, your choice. I believe I am the only one here within the insiders camp that has bothered to give you a fully checkable, fully verifiable history of my life. Duncan O has not, Dan B has not. Do you throw out all and any info a sympathetic NSA or CIA, indeed MoD employee might risk and come forwards with?. Perhaps the Psy-Ops were more to do with actual Military operations rather than civilian operations? If this were the case as you see things, I would have had to begin this particular Psy-Op back in Feb of 1994, logically a wee bit too long timeframe, 15 years and still trying to influence the public? Influence to what end? As stated above, please take it or leave it, I'm not going to try and convince anyone of anything. Some people know me much better than you, since 2005, perhaps you should get a handle from them on what has transpired in these last 4 years. I can put you in touch with some, one of which actually has a membership here at Avalon. Have a good day egg.

THE WATCHER

[Egg]

15 years is a long time? The soviet Union, Communist China and the United States of America and the United Kingdom have ran psyops running into decades.

The 'Cold war' for instance. 1947 - 1989. A 42 year psyop to convince us that we face a mortal peril from the 'Red Menace' behind the iron curtain. We never did - the Soviets never had a first strike mentality - they were to use the buffer incase of future German / NATO aggression.

Now thats in human time frames. Lets have a look at non-human time frames.

14 years is a drop in the bucket - I have on my hard drive an attempted alien abduction involving a ball with spiked legs trying to abduct a man in an orchard. Ground marking were found, castes taken, and the mans character was beyond reproach. This was in the 1880s. Also note the airships of the 1800s which race around years before there were such things.

Look back to the 1400s and earlier. Look at aborigional cave art. Your handlers 14 years of murky swilling is nothing, nothing at all compared to the scope of what we face. In there I think I have the begginings of an understanding as to what your possible role may be. I am not saying either way yet, I have to run some names and freedom of information requests first, and then I will be back.

[THEWATCHER]

I shall be most interested in continuing this with you, even if its just to show you I am a genuine individual trying to open the eyes of the general public, just some are more blinkered than others and some have deep set preconceived notions!!

THE WATCHER

[Egg]

I will not deny we live in a very blinkered civilisation - the problem is that the governments have run a generational psyop against us to keep us from seeing even a chink of light.

Hence my distrust of any one from a psyop unit past or present, blue or green badger.

[Deb]

Originally Posted by Egg

I will not deny we live in a very blinkered civilisation - the problem is that the governments have run a generational psyop against us to keep us from seeing even a chink of light.

Hence my distrust of any one from a psyop unit past or present, blue or green badger.

Do you have personal experience from dealing with a individual within psyops that you wish to share?

[Egg]

Originally Posted by Deb

Do you have personal experience from dealing with a individual within psyops that you wish to share?

I know how they are recruited, who they answer to, what orbat they float in, where they train, what their mission is, and have met a few as the travelled in our less than rarified air they are used to.

I wouldn't trust a psyops operative to tell me the time correctly unless I had a second person to back up what they said independently. Very 'pliable' with words are these ladies and gentlemen, and if it was in their interest to tell you the wrong time, they would.

[Deb]

Originally Posted by Egg

I know how they are recruited, who they answer to, what orbat they float in, where they train, what their mission is, and have met a few as the travelled in our less than rarified air they are used to.

I wouldn't trust a psyops operative to tell me the time correctly unless I had a second person to back up what they said independently. Very 'pliable' with words are these ladies and gentlemen, and if it was in their interest to tell you the wrong time, they would.

I'm not saying I would either, but there are different circumstances here, there seems to be already a label placed on the forehead according to what you have read on the internet or in books.

[Egg]

Originally Posted by Deb

I'm not saying I would either, but there are different circumstances here, there seems to be already a label placed on the forehead according to what you have read on the internet or in books.

Read on the internet? in books? lol you for sure didn't read what I posted then. Never mind.

The circumstances are no different to any other possible psyop. There is the bait, the catch and the reeling in and capture. Its simple - they want to start slowly, draw you in, and by the capture have changed your way of thinking to what they want it to be.

Now, I am not stating this is whats going on, but all and every one of my inner alarm bells rings when a self confessed psyops operative starts writing on a forum for alternate views, when almost every one knows what the government thinks of sites like this.

[Deb]

Originally Posted by Egg

Read on the internet? in books? lol you for sure didn't read what I posted then. Never mind.

The circumstances are no different to any other possible psyop. There is the bait, the catch and the reeling in and capture. Its simple - they want to start slowly, draw you in, and by the capture have changed your way of thinking to what they want it to be.

Now, I am not stating this is whats going on, but all and every one of my inner alarm bells rings when a self confessed psyops operative starts writing on a forum for alternate views, when almost every one knows what the government thinks of sites like this.

But this is exactly what you are stating my dear
If you truly believe what you are saying then I would hope that you go more on your gut feeling and do some more research. What the gut say's is one thing, what Knowledge and trust is.....is another....

[Deb]

Originally Posted by Egg

One last tbought - a psyops operator working in the area of UFO research? now that would be very handy if 'they' were able to get to and interview people with a 'friendly researcher' who just happens to be a psyops operative.



The more I think about this, the more my brain comes up with alternates to every thing you have written.

Get a grip, your acting like a paranoid jack$@$@. Barry is clearly stating information to share, while warning that psyops exists. Did he ever state that he was here to detour you from the truth? You are making claims that you have absolutely no proof of.

[Egg]

Originally Posted by Deb

Get a grip, your acting like a paranoid jack$@$@. Barry is clearly stating information to share, while warning that psyops exists. Did he ever state that he was here to detour you from the truth? You are making claims that you have absolutely no proof of.

Firstly, Barry admitted he was and still contracts for psyops. Psyops don't state anything, they subtly bend you around to their way of thinking by hook or by crook.

Secondly, you say I am paranoid - no, not paranoid at all to wonder why on earth a psyops operative / contractor would be here.

Thirdly, Mr King has been civil, and I respect that. I have my views, he has his. I stated mine and he stated his. We know where we stand with each other, and at the end of the day, I only have suspicions not proven facts.

[Deb]

Originally Posted by Egg

Firstly, Barry admitted he was and still contracts for psyops. Psyops don't state anything, they subtly bend you around to their way of thinking by hook or by crook.

Secondly, you say I am paranoid - no, not paranoid at all to wonder why on earth a psyops operative / contractor would be here.

Thirdly, Mr King has been civil, and I respect that. I have my views, he has his. I stated mine and he stated his. We know where we stand with each other, and at the end of the day, I only have suspicions not proven facts.

I have know Barry King first off for quiet a few years and I'm not part of PSYOPS, so lets get that clear first off. Barry's intention of being at this forum is not to detour anyone from the truth or give false information. The information he is offering comes from a history of events that have occurred during his life. How you interpret that is up to you. Everyone has a choice in what they believe or not. Does PSYOPS exist, of course, do you wish to find out more, I would assume you would and that maybe your own way of using a tactic of getting Barry to express or explain more. A tacticle way of presenting oneself to gain information, right?

[Egg]

Originally Posted by Egg

One last tbought - a psyops operator working in the area of UFO research? now that would be very handy if 'they' were able to get to and interview people with a 'friendly researcher' who just happens to be a psyops operative.



The more I think about this, the more my brain comes up with alternates to every thing you have written.

I stand by what I wrote. It would be amazing to ask abductees 'would you of talked to mr King had you know he was a psychological warfare operative' and find out their answers.

I know what my answer would of been. The odds on an operative amongst UFO researchers was low because its a great place to have them - but still there is that haunting nagging 'what if'.

Thats what I don't like - after all this time he states he is psyops - so why should I or any one else trust / believe him?

[Ara]

Originally Posted by Egg

I stand by what I wrote. It would be amazing to ask abductees 'would you of talked to mr King had you know he was a psychological warfare operative' and find out their answers.

I know what my answer would of been. The odds on an operative amongst UFO researchers was low because its a great place to have them - but still there is that haunting nagging 'what if'.

Thats what I don't like - after all this time he states he is psyops - so why should I or any one else trust / believe him?

Egg, I have recently shared some very personal information with Barry. I chose to share this with Barry after getting to know him as a person and sensing he is as genuine as he appears. I also shared my experiences with Barry knowing he has been connected (& possibly still is) to Psi-Ops. Did that worry me then? No. Does it worry me now? No. Why not you may ask? Because of his integrity. It was my misunderstanding (in a previous post) that Barry had never participated within a psi-operation which facilitated Barry in clearing this incorrect assumption publicly.

Is it possible that coming clean with his experiences could sway the public's thinking or understanding of the reality of Off World Intelligences, Yes. In this case, within the defined parameters you have shared above, all revealings can be construed to be a psi-op to a degree.

Acclimatization=psi ops.

It's obvious from your posts Egg you've been mind-fracked and are pi**ed off with those who perpetrated this upon your mind, and fair enough. No one likes to have their mind messed with.

I hope you read through (if you haven't done so already) all of this thread and see/feel the genuine person behind these revealings.


All the Best to you Egg,

Ara

[Deb]

Originally Posted by Egg

I stand by what I wrote. It would be amazing to ask abductees 'would you of talked to mr King had you know he was a psychological warfare operative' and find out their answers.

I know what my answer would of been. The odds on an operative amongst UFO researchers was low because its a great place to have them - but still there is that haunting nagging 'what if'.

Thats what I don't like - after all this time he states he is psyops - so why should I or any one else trust / believe him?

In actual fact, yes there is a good friend of mine and Barry who is an abductee. Of course she had her questions in the beginning but I will tell you there was never a thought in her mind that he was not genuine and a true friend. Myself, I fell into UFO research due to a sighting I had many years back. Barry has helped me along the way with direction or any questions I have had in relation to my experience. If I feel there is an area to question I do not hesitate to ask or have my own opinions on certain areas as well.

[THEWATCHER]

It was not my intention to disrupt this forum in any way, play any psychological games or lead people down the wrong path. I came here to assist, help, in any way I can plus more selfish reasons, continuing to disclose data about my past which I feel should not be kept hidden. I have always stood by truth, Justice and freedom. I fight for those ideals and will if necessary, die in order to maintain those. I cannot blame anyone for having thoughts about my past, I cannot help that but fully understand others. If anyone feels threatened by me being here please say and this all ends here and now. I can continue only if my being here does not disrupt and causes concerns.


THE WATCHER

[Ara]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

It was not my intention to disrupt this forum in any way, play any psychological games or lead people down the wrong path. I came here to assist, help, in any way I can plus more selfish reasons, continuing to disclose data about my past which I feel should not be kept hidden. I have always stood by truth, Justice and freedom. I fight for those ideals and will if necessary, die in order to maintain those. I cannot blame anyone for having thoughts about my past, I cannot help that but fully understand others. If anyone feels threatened by me being here please say and this all ends here and now. I can continue only if my being here does not disrupt and causes concerns.


THE WATCHER

You do not threaten or offend me in anyway, shape or form Barry, so please stay.

Sadly there may be those who feel threatened by you, for what ever reason. One cannot please all of the people all of the time Barry. The complex mind-games played upon the people does not afford this.


As they say, 'Choice is always an option' so if one feels threatened within an environment maybe it is prudent to refrain from visiting that environment? Maybe discretion is the better part of Valor?

All the Best
Ara

[Antaletriangle]

Chill ite everyone- enough whistleblowers have either left or rarely contribute to this site,unlike you- no-one wishes you leaving Bazzer-no-one is threatened by you as i'm aware meducks. I don't reply very often to your thread but i have a look now and again and find information interesting;it feels the site is more enriched by having you here.So don't take any off handed remarks to heart mate-we all endure off days from time to time.

[Antaletriangle]

Barry i haven't forgotten the videos you sent me and a few others a few months back free of charge-that was very gracious of you mate, cheers.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Antaletriangle

Barry i haven't forgotten the videos you sent me and a few others a few months back free of charge-that was very gracious of you mate, cheers.

My pleasure

THE WATCHER

[Egg]

What year did you aquire American Citizenship? all operatives be they green or blue are required by Federal Law to be American Citizens able to attain at least a Top Secret clearence - or do you mean that your unit is British and you work along side members of the United States Int/MILINT services?

[blastawaycas]

SPENT HOURS READING THIS THREAD..........................WOW

EGG YOU HAVE A VALID POINT AND MY INSTINCTS TELL ME THAT IF I HAD TO STAND ALONGSIDE SOMEONE IT WOULD BE EGG.

FOR WHAT MY OPINION IS WORTH ONCE PSY OPS WAS MENTIONED MY OWN PERSONAL SIRENS WENT OFF.........AND I AM A NO-ONE, NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE MILITARY OR ITS WORKINGS.

ITS JUST AN OPINION THE WATCHER AND IT IS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT

BUT WE ON THIS FORUM MUST BE ON OUR GUARD AND GUARD WHAT WE MAY KNOW.

MY RESPECTS EGG

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by blastawaycas

SPENT HOURS READING THIS THREAD..........................WOW

EGG YOU HAVE A VALID POINT AND MY INSTINCTS TELL ME THAT IF I HAD TO STAND ALONGSIDE SOMEONE IT WOULD BE EGG.

FOR WHAT MY OPINION IS WORTH ONCE PSY OPS WAS MENTIONED MY OWN PERSONAL SIRENS WENT OFF.........AND I AM A NO-ONE, NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE MILITARY OR ITS WORKINGS.

ITS JUST AN OPINION THE WATCHER AND IT IS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT

BUT WE ON THIS FORUM MUST BE ON OUR GUARD AND GUARD WHAT WE MAY KNOW.

MY RESPECTS EGG

I can fully understand and respect your views, I think I have been very open and forthcoming with data here, some might say too open, but thats me. If I did not know myself I would not initially trust me either LOL (little light hearted interjection LOL). No problem, as stated above, if anyone sees my being here a threat or an intimidation I can just as easily stop now and walk away.

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Further delving into areas here could compromise myself and those I'm alligned with, past and present. Therefore all comms will cease for the time being. Apologies for this decision but we have strayed from areas I wished to pursue and have entered others that should remain away from this open arena. Keep well, keep safe, keep searching for answers, they are out there.
I find it highly unusual that even regulars, away from more esoteric fields, would give a perfect stranger such data, let alone those within specific fields. The deeper the black the deeper the darkness, such applies to those involved in these areas, not restricted to open paper trails that openly acknowledged units are tracked by. I will not compromise myself or others simply to satisfy one persons curiosity, you are a stranger and an unknown element to me. Very few here have gained sufficient trust from me to warrant specific data. In areas I have to say i do find this line of enquiry a wee bit odd as I'm sure others before me have not been subjected to such scrutiny re their stated past, I could name several such individuals. But thats life. Think along whatever lines you choose, believe, disbelieve or be somewhere in between. I did not openly bring this up but trying to be civil enough to answer, within reason of course. I have other things to attend to rather than drive in circles here. The forum, the thread is over to you.

THE WATCHER