Crop circles of 2009 general discussion

[Dantheman62]

I've posted this before, but it's military helicopters chasing balls of light, from a Colin Andrews crop circle researcher video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e54JX...eature=related

[Dantheman62]

In response to Lorien, I do believe that some of these are man made, but that video I posted above is proof to me that there's something mysterious going on with the circles that aren't man made. You can actually see the ball of light behind the helicopter at one point, so why is the military chasing these things and how are they connected?

[Lorien]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

In response to Lorien, I do believe that some of these are man made, but that video I posted above is proof to me that there's something mysterious going on with the circles that aren't man made. You can actually see the ball of light behind the helicopter at one point, so why is the military chasing these things and how are they connected?

I am well aware that some are real Dan. And have stated as such. My issue is that most in this thread seem to take every single design as being genuine and any comments suggesting otherwise are met with instant denial. As truth seekers we need to do our best to look at thing from a neutral point of view and make rational decisions. Most of these recent creations lack the precision, symmetry, and feel of genuine formations.

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

Originally Posted by Lorien

I am well aware that some are real Dan. And have stated as such. My issue is that most in this thread seem to take every single design as being genuine and any comments suggesting otherwise are met with instant denial. As truth seekers we need to do our best to look at thing from a neutral point of view and make rational decisions. Most of these recent creations lack the precision, symmetry, and feel of genuine formations.

agree 100%.

[day]

Originally Posted by Lorien

I am well aware that some are real Dan. And have stated as such. My issue is that most in this thread seem to take every single design as being genuine and any comments suggesting otherwise are met with instant denial. As truth seekers we need to do our best to look at thing from a neutral point of view and make rational decisions. Most of these recent creations lack the precision, symmetry, and feel of genuine formations.

absolutely agreed....it must be noted publicly that people are choosing to be discerning because the energy one could feel from earlier crop formations had an effect of heightening consciousness and expansion. I dont feel that from these ones posted of latest 2009.

[micjer]

This actually from disclose tv forum but I thought I'd reproduce it for this forum.

disillusioning wrote:
I have actually had my eyes set on July 7th since May, when the first crop circle hinted at a solar storm, large solar flare or CME (Coronal Mass Ejection), that could effect us, would happen in July. How we arrived exactly at July 7th (remember the Jellyfish CC) is illustrated and explained here, cite info: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com:

Earth’s magnetosphere changes into the shape of a “jellyfish” whenever it is impacted by a severe solar storm

Whenever a severe solar storm impacts directly on Earth, then our planetary magnetic field or “magnetosphere” changes into the general shape of a “jellyfish”.

That seems to be what those crop artists were telling us at Wayland’s Smithy on May 29, 2009:



The new crop picture shows also seven “eclipse” symbols in its central tail (white numbers 1 to 7), as well as seven streamers hanging off below (yellow numbers 1 to 7):










Both of those features suggest that a solar storm may impact Earth on July 7, 2009, as has already been suggested by several other crop pictures from April or May (see http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2.../comments.html or http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2.../comments.html).

The new crop picture also shows a small, horizontal, four-circle band just between its head and its long tail (blue arrows, left or right above). That feature closely resembles a crop picture from July 20, 2008 which told us about eclipses. Indeed, the suggested date of July 7, 2009 for an upcoming solar storm will be a penumbral lunar eclipse (see http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEplot/...2009Jul07N.pdf).

“If directed at Earth, a coronal mass ejection is harmless to people, but slams into Earth's magnetic field, thereby distorting it into the shape of a jellyfish buffeted by a strong current. The most severe CMEs may cause geomagnetic storms capable of disrupting satellites, radio communications or power systems” (see http://www.atlasaerospace.net/eng/newsi-r.htm?id=50 ).

“Coronal mass ejections typically disturb Earth's magnetic field, distorting it into the shape of a jellyfish buffeted by a strong current. This interaction also energizes electrically charged particles, trapped within Earth's magnetosphere, and so causes bright auroral displays” (see http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/istp/events/2000july14).

Have English crop pictures ever predicted severe solar storms before? Andy Thomas noted several years ago (see http://www.cropfiles.it/special/Interview_Thomas.pdf)

“The ‘galaxy’ crop pictures of 1994 displayed Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and the Moon in the constellation Cetus, exactly where they would appear on April 6-7, 2000. When that date finally arrived, the Earth encountered a very powerful solar storm, and an aurora borealis was seen across many European or American countries, much further south than would normally be the case. Some wonder whether those crop pictures were trying to tell us, that something important would be happening to our Sun on that night? It seems beyond coincidence. It also seems to show that the intelligences behind those crop pictures have the power of premonition.”

Once we study this new crop picture further, a more complete report can be made. No need to be too concerned! Other severe solar storms impacted on Earth in 2000 or 2003 (as noted above), but hardly anyone took any notice, apart from some professional astrophysicists who became very excited.

Finally, we would like to thank Steve Alexander for use of his excellent aerial photographs, which make scientific analyses such as this possible.

The CMM Research Group

Harold Stryderight



And last to answer your questions as to why England. There is an ongoing notion that for a crop circle to be created there needs to be a underground water source like that of an aquifer. In England, these aquifers are plentiful and not too deep, however CC have appeared else where in the world, including the United States, but underground water was also present. At least that was the explanation I was always given.

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/viewtop...=5663&start=20

[micjer]

Images Jack Roderick Copyright 2009
july 4 2009

[Dantheman62]

formation is about 1500 feet long

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...l3/phase3.html

[Dantheman62]

The above crop circle was done in three phases,

Phase 1



Phase 2


Phase 3

[Dantheman62]

A crop circle has appeared that researchers interpret to be a message that the Sun is about to emit five Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) that will hit the Earth on July 7, 2009. The crop circle first appeared at Milk Hill England on June 21 and has evolved over three stages up until June 30. Researchers interpreting the complex images in the crop circle believe these represent positions of planets that correspond to July 6 and 7 as dates when CMEs will hit the Earth. If so, this may be the first barrage of CMEs to hit the Earth in Solar Cycle 24. Importantly, scientists will be able to directly study the impacts of large amounts of solar plasma penetrating a breach in the magnetosphere first reported by NASA scientists in December 2008.

Michael Salla, Ph.D.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honol...arth-on-July-7





An article by the CMM Research Group offers the following interpretation about the complex symbols depicted in the Milk Hill crop circle:

A new crop picture at Milk Hill on June 21, 2009 seems to provide one of the least ambiguous indications so far, that our Sun will truly emit a series of CMEs (coronal mass ejections) toward Earth in the near future, perhaps on the full Moon of July 7, 2009.

The CMM Research Group says that the sun “seems to be emitting five CMEs along curved paths through space that eventually intersect with planet Earth.”
An unnamed Australian scientist agrees with the conclusion of the CMM Research Group and wrote:

Our best theoretical matches to the crop formation boxes were for upcoming dates of July 6 or 7, 2009. Why would those crop artists go to all the trouble of showing us sextant and orrery shapes, then coding that orrery with six rectangular boxes which mean July 6 or 7, 2009, unless something significant were going to happen at that time?

[Luminari]

Silbury Hill, nr Avebury, Wiltshire. Reported 5th July.

[Luminari]

[Lorien]

Well, July 7th is almost over and so far not a single CME bombarding Earth. Perhaps now people will stop making up insane assumptions about the meaning of these markings? I doubt that.

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

A crop circle has appeared that researchers interpret to be a message that the Sun is about to emit five Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) that will hit the Earth on July 7, 2009. The crop circle first appeared at Milk Hill England on June 21 and has evolved over three stages up until June 30. Researchers interpreting the complex images in the crop circle believe these represent positions of planets that correspond to July 6 and 7 as dates when CMEs will hit the Earth. If so, this may be the first barrage of CMEs to hit the Earth in Solar Cycle 24. Importantly, scientists will be able to directly study the impacts of large amounts of solar plasma penetrating a breach in the magnetosphere first reported by NASA scientists in December 2008.

Michael Salla, Ph.D.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honol...arth-on-July-7





An article by the CMM Research Group offers the following interpretation about the complex symbols depicted in the Milk Hill crop circle:

A new crop picture at Milk Hill on June 21, 2009 seems to provide one of the least ambiguous indications so far, that our Sun will truly emit a series of CMEs (coronal mass ejections) toward Earth in the near future, perhaps on the full Moon of July 7, 2009.

The CMM Research Group says that the sun “seems to be emitting five CMEs along curved paths through space that eventually intersect with planet Earth.”
An unnamed Australian scientist agrees with the conclusion of the CMM Research Group and wrote:

Our best theoretical matches to the crop formation boxes were for upcoming dates of July 6 or 7, 2009. Why would those crop artists go to all the trouble of showing us sextant and orrery shapes, then coding that orrery with six rectangular boxes which mean July 6 or 7, 2009, unless something significant were going to happen at that time?

[NeoEmc2]

Originally Posted by Lorien

Well, July 7th is almost over and so far not a single CME bombarding Earth. Perhaps now people will stop making up insane assumptions about the meaning of these markings? I doubt that.

It's not the first time that a crop formation has been misinterpreted. There have been times when they have contained messages that actually did come true, just like they point out in the article for this particular formation on cropcircleconnector.

Maybe we didn't get a CME because the sun decided to "chill out". However new sunspots were just "spotted" which in turn could only mean that there will be CME activity coming from those in the near future, especially when we are less than three years from solarmax.


The sun has spots, finally

[Dantheman62]

July 8, 2009
AN IMPORTANT EVENT HAS TAKEN PLACE ON THE DATE SPECIFIED
BY ALERT 10.
A very significant event has occurred within the Alert date period and also the
defined location: i.e.: 7th July 2009, Silbury Hill, Wiltshire, England. Crop Circle
located south west of the hill off the A4 highway. This is the same location where
on the 23 May 1994, four researchers (including one nuclear scientist) visiting a
crop design in this field, witnessed intense military presence moments before they
each experienced 45 minutes missing time and........

......within a short while a further period of missing
time. Each had red marks appear on their necks and had severe nose bleeds hours later. A full
account is held in CPR Archive.

This is also the site of a secret military stake out which took place during the 1990 Operation
Blackbird, where over these fields a large unidentified white orb was filmed by the army present.

The latest bizarre event took place yesterday morning (7th) at approximately 5.0 AM, when a
Wiltshire Police Sergeant was driving in his private car towards Marlborough on the A4 highway and
about to pass Silbury Hill on his left. He looked to his right and witnessed three exceptionally tall
beings inspecting the new crop circle which appeared there on the 5th July. He stopped his vehicle
and watched them for several minutes because they stood out as odd. Each of them were well
over six feet tall, each had blond hair and also they all were wearing one piece white suites, with
hoods that had been dropped onto the back of their heads.


After a few minutes watching them, he said they were appeared to be examining the crop in the
circle, he shouted at them from a distance of about 400 yards but they ignored him. As soon as
he entered the field, they became aware of him and ran at an amazing speed to the south, away
from Silbury Hill. He said I recognised that I could never catch up with them they ran so
exceptionally fast. He glanced away for just a few seconds and looked back to find that they had
completely vanished. He became very uneasy and left the scene.

The police officer was very aware of hearing a static crackling sound in the field and around him.
He said as the plants moved around, he could see the movement coincided with the level of
sound, as if the static was effecting the plants by moving them.

He also started to experience a headache in the field, which became worse as the day went on
and he could not shake it off all day.

Ground research being done by Andrew Russell: www.andyrussell@fastmail.co.uk

Time this report posted: 12.55 am US eastern - 8 July 2009. (Awaiting further interview)


Copyright: Steve Alexander
The A4 highway can be seen running across the
photograph, just below Silbury Hill.

[Swanny]

Thats a very big circle but I'd be surprised if you can see it from the road
I'm pretty sure it would be up on top of the hill

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

...witnessed three exceptionally tall
beings inspecting the new crop circle which appeared there on the 5th July. He stopped his vehicle
and watched them for several minutes because they stood out as odd. Each of them were well
over six feet tall, each had blond hair and also they all were wearing one piece white suites, with
hoods that had been dropped onto the back of their heads...

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by Luminari

Yeah this just happened on the morning of the 7th.

[micjer]

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment

[Reader]

I think we are now "getting somewhere"

The fact that interpretations of the circles indicate "activity" on the sun on July 7th should still be considered somewhat amazing, as this is the first real sun activity in the past 2 years.....

The circle makers appear to be taking a break, maybe they are assessing our reactions and interpretations of their work

The next ones to come should be very interesting

[Northern Boy]

Thanks Micjer

[micjer]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...bury-Hill.html




Mayan 'apocalypse' crop circle appears at Silbury Hill


A 350ft crop circle of an ancient Mayan symbol, said to be a sign of an impending apocalypse, has appeared next to Silbury Hill in Wiltshire.



The giant pattern - thought to represent a traditional Mayan head-dress - appeared next to the tallest prehistoric man-made mound in Europe last week.

Members of the crop circle community believe the mystic symbol is a signal of the end of the 5,126-year Mayan 'Long Count' calendar on December 21, 2012.


Crop circle picture gallery shows more complex formsKaren Alexander, a crop circle enthusiast, said: "This is one of the most interesting crop circles I have ever seen. It is definitely a Mayan symbol and we are sure it is linked to the Mayan calendar, which ends in 2012.

"It appears to be a warning about the world coming to an end when the calendar does. For the ancient Maya, reaching the end of a cycle was a momentous event, so we are taking this crop circle very seriously as an indicator of a possibly huge event in 2012."

Last month a 400-foot crop circle depicting a phoenix rising from the flames appeared in a barley field in Yatesbury near Devizes, Wiltshire.

Crop circle theorists believe the patterns are created by UFOs during nocturnal visits, or caused by natural phenomena such as unusual forms of lightning striking the earth.

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by micjer

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...bury-Hill.html




Mayan 'apocalypse' crop circle appears at Silbury Hill


A 350ft crop circle of an ancient Mayan symbol, said to be a sign of an impending apocalypse, has appeared next to Silbury Hill in Wiltshire.



The giant pattern - thought to represent a traditional Mayan head-dress - appeared next to the tallest prehistoric man-made mound in Europe last week.

Members of the crop circle community believe the mystic symbol is a signal of the end of the 5,126-year Mayan 'Long Count' calendar on December 21, 2012.


Crop circle picture gallery shows more complex formsKaren Alexander, a crop circle enthusiast, said: "This is one of the most interesting crop circles I have ever seen. It is definitely a Mayan symbol and we are sure it is linked to the Mayan calendar, which ends in 2012.

"It appears to be a warning about the world coming to an end when the calendar does. For the ancient Maya, reaching the end of a cycle was a momentous event, so we are taking this crop circle very seriously as an indicator of a possibly huge event in 2012."

Last month a 400-foot crop circle depicting a phoenix rising from the flames appeared in a barley field in Yatesbury near Devizes, Wiltshire.

Crop circle theorists believe the patterns are created by UFOs during nocturnal visits, or caused by natural phenomena such as unusual forms of lightning striking the earth.

More Eschatology! doh!

Why is it that anything remotely Mayan looking is always claimed to represent the End of the frikin' World?

I think the central aspect of this formation clearly represents the human heart... see what I mean?

[micjer]

Originally Posted by Luminari

More Eschatology! doh!

Why is it that anything remotely Mayan looking is always claimed to represent the End of the frikin' World?

I think the central aspect of this formation clearly represents the human heart... see what I mean?

I agree with you. I really don't see the "end of the world" in this either. I just posted the article for discussion purposes.


I feel that this one is not a hoax. The crackling noise in the field is a trait of the real ones. The weaving of the crop at the top of the circle would be hard to do so precisely with a board. The fact that 3 tall blondes were spotted gives it an extra twist also!!

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by micjer

I agree with you. I really don't see the "end of the world" in this either. I just posted the article for discussion purposes.


I feel that this one is not a hoax. The crackling noise in the field is a trait of the real ones. The weaving of the crop at the top of the circle would be hard to do so precisely with a board. The fact that 3 tall blondes were spotted gives it an extra twist also!!

Yeah this is the formation of the year (so far) for me on many levels.. many of the other formations haven't felt right. But this clearly is as genuine as they come.

I'd love some 'tall blondes' of the female variety in my life right now!

I don't mind whether they are from earth or not. Beam me up ladies.