Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09

Dantheman62 · 07-04-2009, 11:38 PM

I think I've said this in another thread but nothing is going to happen to the moon from our tiny 2 ton bomb. Most craters on the moon exceed 25 miles across and the largest is around 1500 miles across. Imagine the size and speed of meteors to create craters that big! They would have to be miles across, and with an average speed of 20 km per second to make craters and basins that big!
Also the moon's crust is around 43 miles thick/deep, compared to the earth's crust at around 6 miles.
Our little bomb will be like a mosquito bite compared to what has hit it in the past.

Anchor · 07-04-2009, 11:53 PM

We need to dematerialize/divert Centaur.

BTW it is not a "BOMB", it is an impactor - moot point maybe, still lots of energy and a big bang, but please stop trying to weaponize everything for hype reasons!

A..

Starlah · 07-05-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantheman62

I think I've said this in another thread but nothing is going to happen to the moon from our tiny 2 ton bomb. Most craters on the moon exceed 25 miles across and the largest is around 1500 miles across. Imagine the size and speed of meteors to create craters that big! They would have to be miles across, and with an average speed of 20 km per second to make craters and basins that big!
Also the moon's crust is around 43 miles thick/deep, compared to the earth's crust at around 6 miles.
Our little bomb will be like a mosquito bite compared to what has hit it in the past.

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What if the moon is partially hollow Dan? A complete seismological survey of its mass and interior has to be done as was mentioned in the posted article.
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Dantheman62 · 07-05-2009, 01:17 AM

That was part of the reason I posted that, if meteors traveling that fast and of that size only put shallow craters on the surface, then our impacter isn't going to do much.
At least that's my reasoning on it, LOL, I could be wrong, but there's a huge difference between the two. I would think our impactor would be like a pin pric k comparatively.

BROOK · 07-05-2009, 01:28 AM

There ya go...I forgot about that....that Dan...making sense of things
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You're right....it probably will not have much of an effect

Wormhole · 07-05-2009, 01:37 AM

Thanks Dan, makes a lot of sense, but I still don't like PTB messing with my moon!!! I like the way she looks just the way she is. Her wrinkles are el natural...

It's just the mentality... "let's go and shoot something at it and see what happens" Blah Blah Blah.

You know what I mean. How much is this costing? And I wonder, really, why?

Peace of Mind,
(and don't worry anchor, we all love each other)
Wormhole

Dantheman62 · 07-05-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wormhole

Thanks Dan, makes a lot of sense, but I still don't like PTB messing with my moon!!! I like the way she looks just the way she is. Her wrinkles are el natural...

It's just the mentality... "let's go and shoot something at it and see what happens" Blah Blah Blah.

You know what I mean. How much is this costing? And I wonder, really, why?

Peace of Mind,
(and don't worry anchor, we all love each other)
Wormhole

Yeah I hear ya there!

Dantheman62 · 07-05-2009, 01:42 AM

I read somewhere that the real mystery was why those craters are so shallow.
To be hit that hard by huge, extremely fast meteors or comets, those craters should be at least twice as deep, if not three times or more!
So that's the real mystery, why didn't they penetrate deeper?

Wormhole · 07-05-2009, 01:45 AM

Now that IS VERY interesting. One would think that that would mean a denser mass, or at least a very pliant one. But everything I've read concludes that the calculated mass of the moon is lighter then what one would think... That's very odd info indeed!

BROOK · 07-05-2009, 01:50 AM

It's supposed to be...to find frozen water

he purpose of the mission is to discover whether there’s frozen water in the craters near the moon’s south pole. If water is indeed found, it could have very important implications for further human missions on the moon, as a potential source for oxygen (you know why we need that) and hydrogen (for rocket fuel).

http://mashable.com/2009/06/18/nasa-...tter-facebook/

Wormhole · 07-05-2009, 01:57 AM

[QUOTE=BROOK;149614][COLOR=Cyan][I][B]It's supposed to be...to find frozen water

Yeah, I heard that but do not believe it. I think we are more likely to find a half-used bottle of Tang.

Love ya Brook, glad you're here. Keep smiling!
Worm

Dantheman62 · 07-05-2009, 02:10 AM

Well I wonder if there's some kind of metal shell under that outer crust. Let's say the crust is 43 miles thick like they say, and under that is some kind of hollow metal ball which would be the inner moon, hence making it ring like a bell when it's hit by something. That would prove that it's artificial.
Maybe that's what they're really looking for, after hitting it with that impactor. hmmm

Wormhole · 07-05-2009, 02:17 AM

I was thinking the same thing.

BROOK · 07-05-2009, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Well I wonder if there's some kind of metal shell under that outer crust. Let's say the crust is 43 miles thick like they say, and under that is some kind of hollow metal ball which would be the inner moon, hence making it ring like a bell when it's hit by something. That would prove that it's artificial.
Maybe that's what they're really looking for, after hitting it with that impactor. hmmm

I'm in agreement there too...the more I hear about that idea..the more sense it makes...even though it's hard to believe

BROOK · 07-05-2009, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

[color=Cyan][i][b]It's supposed to be...to find frozen water

Yeah, I heard that but do not believe it. I think we are more likely to find a half-used bottle of Tang.

Love ya Brook, glad you're here. Keep smiling!

Worm

I'm with you sister...I'm sure there is more to it...just what it the question

iainl140285 · 07-06-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantheman62

I think I've said this in another thread but nothing is going to happen to the moon from our tiny 2 ton bomb. Most craters on the moon exceed 25 miles across and the largest is around 1500 miles across. Imagine the size and speed of meteors to create craters that big! They would have to be miles across, and with an average speed of 20 km per second to make craters and basins that big!
Also the moon's crust is around 43 miles thick/deep, compared to the earth's crust at around 6 miles.
Our little bomb will be like a mosquito bite compared to what has hit it in the past.

I wonder when these giant meteors hit though. Maybe before the moon was ever in its current orbit.

I wonder what size of impact would be required to adjust the moons position.

Still, makes you wonder, who is going to tell NASA not to? Who watchers the watchers ...

07-04-2009, 11:38 PM	#1
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 I think I've said this in another thread but nothing is going to happen to the moon from our tiny 2 ton bomb. Most craters on the moon exceed 25 miles across and the largest is around 1500 miles across. Imagine the size and speed of meteors to create craters that big! They would have to be miles across, and with an average speed of 20 km per second to make craters and basins that big! Also the moon's crust is around 43 miles thick/deep, compared to the earth's crust at around 6 miles. Our little bomb will be like a mosquito bite compared to what has hit it in the past.

07-04-2009, 11:53 PM	#2
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 We need to dematerialize/divert Centaur. BTW it is not a "BOMB", it is an impactor - moot point maybe, still lots of energy and a big bang, but please stop trying to weaponize everything for hype reasons! A..

07-05-2009, 01:17 AM	#4
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 That was part of the reason I posted that, if meteors traveling that fast and of that size only put shallow craters on the surface, then our impacter isn't going to do much. At least that's my reasoning on it, LOL, I could be wrong, but there's a huge difference between the two. I would think our impactor would be like a pin pric k comparatively.

07-05-2009, 01:28 AM	#5
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 There ya go...I forgot about that....that Dan...making sense of things . You're right....it probably will not have much of an effect

07-05-2009, 01:37 AM	#6
Wormhole Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 506	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 Thanks Dan, makes a lot of sense, but I still don't like PTB messing with my moon!!! I like the way she looks just the way she is. Her wrinkles are el natural... It's just the mentality... "let's go and shoot something at it and see what happens" Blah Blah Blah. You know what I mean. How much is this costing? And I wonder, really, why? Peace of Mind, (and don't worry anchor, we all love each other) Wormhole

07-05-2009, 01:42 AM	#8
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 I read somewhere that the real mystery was why those craters are so shallow. To be hit that hard by huge, extremely fast meteors or comets, those craters should be at least twice as deep, if not three times or more! So that's the real mystery, why didn't they penetrate deeper?

07-05-2009, 01:45 AM	#9
Wormhole Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 506	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 Now that IS VERY interesting. One would think that that would mean a denser mass, or at least a very pliant one. But everything I've read concludes that the calculated mass of the moon is lighter then what one would think... That's very odd info indeed!

07-05-2009, 01:50 AM	#10
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 It's supposed to be...to find frozen water he purpose of the mission is to discover whether there’s frozen water in the craters near the moon’s south pole. If water is indeed found, it could have very important implications for further human missions on the moon, as a potential source for oxygen (you know why we need that) and hydrogen (for rocket fuel). http://mashable.com/2009/06/18/nasa-...tter-facebook/

07-05-2009, 01:57 AM	#11
Wormhole Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 506	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 [QUOTE=BROOK;149614][COLOR=Cyan][I][B]It's supposed to be...to find frozen water Yeah, I heard that but do not believe it. I think we are more likely to find a half-used bottle of Tang. Love ya Brook, glad you're here. Keep smiling! Worm

07-05-2009, 02:10 AM	#12
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 Well I wonder if there's some kind of metal shell under that outer crust. Let's say the crust is 43 miles thick like they say, and under that is some kind of hollow metal ball which would be the inner moon, hence making it ring like a bell when it's hit by something. That would prove that it's artificial. Maybe that's what they're really looking for, after hitting it with that impactor. hmmm

07-05-2009, 02:17 AM	#13
Wormhole Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 506	Re: Pros&Cons Of Disturbing The Moon With 2T Bomb Oct8/09 I was thinking the same thing.