Opinions on Barak Obama?

[doodah]

I have had dreams, like David Wilcock, that Barack Obama is well intentioned and will make significant changes for the good. I agree with David that his real intent for change is much more radical and deep than he expresses openly. How he is controlled, if he is controlled, whose puppet he is, and whose agenda is being worked out through him, I don't know. Sorry I don't really have the info you are looking for here. It would require some research to answer your questions.

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[Sarahmay]

My psychic messages on the election:

Palin will withdraw (I know, seems unlikely at this point)

The election result is a "done deal". I don't know what this means, but I was asking if Obama would win, I want Obama to win, and I hope it means that he does.

Obama may have some questionable associates, but I think he is an absolutely positive force for the US and the world.

[Arkan]

Personally, I'm not counting on any politician making any change or keeping promises this election. They just don't care about us folks. I think they put Obama up there because they want to quell the desire for political change in this country. Leo Zagami said in his Camelot interview that he is a 32 degree Mason. Here's a video of him dodging a question about possible CFR connections: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...question&vt=lf

Here's Joe Biden admitting he's a Zionist: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+zionist&vt=lf

It really doesn't matter who is president. They control everyone these days. I think I remember hearing Zagami saying something like: "Just when they make you think there's no possibility for fascism, that's when they'll bring it in," in his Camelot interview. No president has dared to go against the status quo after what they did to JFK.

I'm not trying to attack anyone who has hope that Obama says who he says he is; this is just my opinion. However, I urge people not to look outside themselves for salvation in the years to come.



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[doodah]

All true. Given, however, that we live at many levels here on this planet, that we are multidimensional beings, and that most of who and what we are is not on this planet right now ... Does one choose to believe one's dreams and intuition, or does one defer to Leo Zagami?

I don't have an answer to this question. If hope is a force for good, I say go ahead and hope, at the same time keeping a wary eye out for what's going on around you.

We're constantly caught in this tug of war here, what to believe, what not to believe. It's the discernment issue all over again, all the time. From a personal standpoint, I'm tired of this game, so if dimensional shift is in our future, I'm more than ready. In the meantime, I try to hold the light.

I completely agree with Arkan and Doodah. I don't have any hope that ANY politician will be a real force for positive change. I've heard Obama dodge many important questions, and even labeled some questioners as "conspiracists". When someone in a position of power uses that derogatory term against a legitimate truth seeker, that sends up a red flag (to say the least). So I have no hope that Obama is any different than any other career politician.
The hope that I DO have is one of a spiritual and dimensional shift, some call it the Ascension. I believe 2012 has alot to do with this.

[Orion11]

him being blood related to g dubya.... all of his meaningless words
and knowing how all of this works....

he is no better than the rest of them. ( i thought he was for a minute, then i rubbed the sleep from my eyes)

all just more wool for you to put over your eyes to fall asleep nice n comfy like.

they hand you nothing but garbage to "choose" from,
and then pretend to let you decide.

ppl are so easily distracted by BS.
none of this matters. none of it is going to matter.

its all crap to keep you from thinking about things that really matter.

will we be ok? .. sure, i know we will be.

but ppl are soo focused on this fascist, political garbage, which they really have NO say in whatsoever. for what? you know you have no say in any of it.
you should by now at least.

so why try to be so involved in more corrupt BS?

you have no say in any of it.. not yet.
not until this whole system is replaced.

do people really not see this?

for how long are people going to continue being 'led' while blindfolded
and thinking nothing of it?

you are doing exactly what you are wanted to do..

focusing your energies on meaningless garbage.

and for what?
every single person in this country could vote for the same individual ...
but if that individual is not the one who has already been chosen, long ago..
it would not matter how many votes the "good guy" recieved.
our votes mean nothing. Simple. How hard is that to see? especially now.

if i was forced to choose between two evils, obama is the poison i would choose..
but it doesnt matter. your votes, your say, means nothing to these people.

why not try to focus your enrgy on something you DO have a say in?

i realize this isnt the most positive post, and i apologize for that... and i also realize some things i said may have been repetitive...but the truth needs to be spoken and understood.
as I see many many people lately, still obviously clueless to this reality.
with comments like " i just couldnt believe our gov. could/would do something like this"
seriously?

Peace n Blessings

[Andre]

Originally Posted by Sarahmay

My psychic messages on the election:

Palin will withdraw (I know, seems unlikely at this point)

The election result is a "done deal". I don't know what this means, but I was asking if Obama would win, I want Obama to win, and I hope it means that he does.

Obama may have some questionable associates, but I think he is an absolutely positive force for the US and the world.

Based on the amount of information coming out on Sarah Palin from Alaska, I do believe that she will ultimately withdraw in October. The October surprise. This will mess up the McCain campaign. Add this to the situation that economy is in, the Republican scandals and the 8 years of George Bush - Barack Obama will be the next President.

I wish that I could view Obama in the same light as Wilcock or others here. But, I don't. He is manipulated by Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski, and we all know Brzezinski's history.



Brzezinski played a critical role in the formation of the Afghan Mujaheddin Network, some of which would later form the Taliban and would shelter Al Qaeda camps. Just take a read of his books, The Grand Chessboard (1997) and The Choice (2004) and you can clearly see the direction that he will drive Obama.

In the end, whether or not the next President will be Obama, McCain, or even if the elections will be held, we cannot invest our trust in that office. We must all know by now that the President is just a figurehead, a puppet, a pawn and we must address the figures working behind the scenes to shape the future.

[atom.Man]

Originally Posted by doodah

I have had dreams, like David Wilcock, that Barack Obama is well intentioned and will make significant changes for the good...

no offense, but i'd call that nightmare

take a very close look at his record and relationships. Makes no difference who's elected -- you aren't allowed to ascend to that position unless you've catered to certain interests. Question is, did you cater willingly or unwillingly and does it make a difference? In O'Drama's case, he is, without any doubt in my mind, no different than McWar/Hitlery/Robney/etc.. To cling to the hope that he has somehow managed to remain untouched in his core values, i think anyway, is unjustified. What evidence do you have to suggest this? He would've been rooted out some time ago if he resembled anything ethical.

Don't be rocked to sleep by the MSM - you know this. Here, we all know this. Don't be rocked to sleep by a CFR member who's good with [other peoples] words either. "Change", my ass. War is more like it.

I have a great deal of respect for Icke, Wilcock, etc., but when anyone endorses the table scraps that we're left with, red flags start flying. Especially when it came through a dream.

i hope i'm an idiot. I hope i'm wrong. But i have every reason to doubt i am. History says so, not me.

[RubyTuesday]

He may have good intentions but we can't say whether they are in alignment with what we think of as good. I have an inherent distrust of him as I do with McCain. This election is too much like a reality tv show for me to take seriously.

That said, I do recognize that no matter what Obama ultimately does/does not do he IS raising the vibe in our country right now. There's a lot of good, hopeful energy flowing out there right now and that empowers us all. Let's take advantage of that by amplifying it while we can. The future is uncertain but now is right here.

Since the world does not work in cause and effect the way we were brought up to think it does, but rather we participate in and shape a field, we can shape the field of Obama. We can choose to see in him a nascent desire to be a catalyst for change and we can vote for that. Rather than voting for him to be more of the same we can choose to believe in his possibilities. Since our minds are connected, how we see him affects him. Personally, I would rather not take the safe, doubting road, with arms crossed and nose in the air. I would rather believe in him and empower his ideas with my enthusiasm and let him rise to the occasion.