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Avalon Senior Member
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Obama is a shill and a liar like the rest of them.
Not that it matters, the presidents never make the real decisions anyways. To have faith in Obama to "change" as he puts it, is a huge waste of energy that could be spent elsewhere. Here is a clip of Obama lying about the CFR where he says "Ummm... I'm not sure if I'm a member" lol, and then goes on to pretend he has never heard of the NAU! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEnuhSScLgc Shill! On a side note, Wilcocks faith in Obama makes me question a lot of what he himself says. I do respect Wilcocks outlook though. Last edited by Phtha; 09-16-2008 at 09:44 PM. |
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I completely agree. Even worse, I'm a member of Wilcock's message board called "Divine Cosmos" and I attempted to post up an article that was critical of Obama...it was never posted up. I call that censorship of ideas. I question any site that screens member's posts before allowing them to appear. If something that has been posted up is deemed defamatory or harmful in some way, then please, kindly remove it (with an explanation). But to screen messages ahead of time and then to not provide an explaination via PM when they've been rejected is, to me, HIGHLY suspect. Although Wilcock says many things that I happen to agree with, I take him with a grain of salt. I certainly don't see him as any kind of guru as many seem to. |
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Avalon Senior Member
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i agree whitewolf.
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Virginia, USA
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Andre, thanks for all that info. What you've done is confirm Wilcock's historical presentaiton ... it's all them and very little us.
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Avalon Senior Member
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That is the whole reason that I posted this thread.. I was curious because Wilcock said that he believed that Obama had good intentions. This makes me very skeptical because I am well aware of the tradition to continue the incest family tree crap and I was unaware that Obama had anything to do with it. Thank you for you comments because this reinforces my first tendency to not vote for Obama for any reason.
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Good work again ANDRE!!! Thanks for the pictures, global speeches in Germany, that is pretty scary if you ask me. You always hit the nail on the head. I am glad I am not the only one who thought it was wierd about Wilcock.
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
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Is Ron Paul still in on the running?
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearc...b=0&aq=-1&oq=# http://www.google.com/trends?q=barack+obama%2C+ron+paul |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Wouldn't it be great if only two votes were cast on election day?
instead of voting for one or the other - vote 'no confidence in the system' and stay home. |
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Sorry to shoot a hole in your idea. It was a good one but, the cards are already stacked... |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
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I was wondering what people thought would happen with things like the economy and oil if Obama is elected. I realize that it is going to be staged and with electronic voting machines we really have no opinion. However, I do not feel like people are going to put up with gas prices and food prices for much longer. I guess it is not going to matter if their is going to be a financial collapse but some people do not think that is going to happen and if it doesnt what is?
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First, the election doesn't matter. The President is pretty low on the totem pole of authority. McCain or Obama - nothing important will change. Second, wouldn't it be nice if we showed them that we were onto their shenanigans by voting not to vote. |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Eastern U.S.
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Andre's reference to Obama's senior advisor Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski is very important when deciding whether to support him or not. Research Brzezinski and reconcile his backing of Obama with Obama's stated goals before making up your mind one way or the other.
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Isn't that weird?
Obama, Cheney, Bush and Kerry are all related cousins! And what's even more weird, they are all related to Vlad "the impaler" Tepes, aka Dracula!
Last edited by King Lear; 09-17-2008 at 03:08 PM. |
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Avalon Senior Member
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Nice pic, King Lear! Like I said before, they are all related.
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In The Mists
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Toronto
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I like for things to add up, and they just don't with Obama.
Some things I know, and some I'm fairly sure of: It's virtually impossible for a decent, honest person to become president. Obama was not above using Biden and his connections to try to crush Sinclair. The "noise" over Obama's questionable citizenship could not have been hushed accidentally. Obama enjoys the adulations of the masses just a bit too much. Obama seemed to come out of nowhere and rise like a rocket. (doesn't happen) Brezinski is trouble with a capitol T. Obama has a smug confidence which isn't born out by anything obvious, so points to secret deals to me. Probably more that aren't right at the top of my head right now, but these things just make me scratch me head. Smells wrong to me. All of which may mean nothing, and Obama could be smart enough to just be playing the players, and trying to beat them at their own game. But that strikes me as such a long shot as to not be worth considering. The upshot is that I wouldn't expect any help for our cause from the whitehouse, past, present or near future. Seems like trying to choose the lesser of great evils. For what opinions on this are worth. (probably not much) |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada
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it appears he makes hand signals too
![]() http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353695/ ![]() love susan the eXchanger |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
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I think Obama/McCain race is the same as Bush/Kerry.
They all seem to be unremarkable people with large ego's and a host of murdered aquaintances in their wake. You don't get near the presidency without a chequered past as it marks you as ripe for control. Few things seem to inspire helplessness as an American Presidential election. What to do? |
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I am voting for Obama.
But... I think and feel that McCain will win. For two reasons... 1. The election is fixed anyways and even if Obama gets elected... we will have another 'hanging chad' type situation. 2. The majority of Americans are blind to the situations of the economy and world in general. The average American voter will base their vote on 2 key issues. Abortion and gay rights, since most people know where they stand on those two things. |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
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I am putting out my opinion like most Politicians I think He is just another one trying to get elected. All his voting records tell us more than what we need to know. So basically either way we vote we're getting more of the same more war etc. Not only that but do you think our votes actually count? Look at the 2000 election for proof and the Diebold Voting Machines we use
. When it comes to David Willcock I think we need to be more objective and see what his true intentions are.Peace~ Rebel4Life |
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Avalon Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
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I am sorry to hear that your comments were censored. That is not fair. I have always made it clear and I have done so here as well, that we must take every information with a grain of salt. We have to analyze and think things through. You have to understand that Obama is a pawn of The Powers That Be. Think about it. How could someone with such a limited record be a Presidential nominee? In this post 911 era of fear and fright, a man named Barack Hussein Obama, whose father is a devoted muslim, with links to criminal overlords in Chicago, and questions of his sexuality could be the next President of America. It seems quite strange, doesn't it? Yet, he spoke to audience of over 200,000 in Germany. It seems inevitable that he is being positioned to be the next President and to be play a critical role in global politics. I don't trust it. Do you? |
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