Dr. Steven Greer, Disinfo Agent? Details Please!

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by NorthernSantuary

Greer really believes that all ET's are benevolent

I think Dr Greer's viewpoint on this is that:

any ET race advanced technologically enough to be using interstellar space travel would have to be peaceful or else they would have destroyed themselves (or been destroyed) long ago.

Not saying this is my viewpoint, but I'm fairly certain I have heard Greer state this opinion.

What is really worrying is that Kerry has launched defamatory attacks on Greer on the Camelot site without clarifying anything with Greer.

..the worst kind of disinfo..

We do not agree with Greer's position and consider this dangerous and insidious.

No wonder Dr Greer has now decided to be interviewed to clear things up when facing this sort of public 'attack' from what should be a staunch ally.

I'm not saying she is right or wrong, but this attack is quite unprofessional.

Dr Greer doesn't have to explain himself to anybody, he has been on the front lines doing and amazing job long before Project Camelot ever existed.

I can imagine the 'public disclosure' will NEVER happen if we focus on the negative ETs - No government is ever going to admit to their constituents that there are 'bad guys' visiting earth with advanced technology and there's nothing we can do about it. That would cause public chaos and fear and would be a huge blow to national security.

Disclosure needs to be positive for it to work at all. See what I mean?

Maybe Greer knows this and is being smart by focusing on the (overwhelming majority of ) good 'Angelic' visitors exclusively.

This is an enormous 'can of worms' but we all need to stick together to pull this off, in-fighting and name calling is exactly what the 'interior government controllers' want... 'divide and conquer'.

Lets wait and see what the Greer-Camelot interview reveals.. should be a great discussion!

On a side note:
How interesting that Camelot's number 1 whistleblowers real name turns out to be 'Arthur'...

King Arthur - Camelot.. get it?

[Tramik]

If what she said is accurate, I would have to agree with her posting. If someone is spreading disinformation which could potentially hinder man-kinds ability to find truth, I (and many others) take that very personally.

I can understand that her posting isn't necessarily the most "polite" way to handle this, as it was posted before the interview. However, if Project Camelot's claims are accurate, I agree - they are insidious.

[333mark333]

Sorry Steven Greer.......once again i learn a lesson that my perception is my perception not yours! i regret any negativity due to my emotional lock in of the 5 senses.....

[Baron Cross]

This is what I saw and heard at the conference, Dr. Greer spoke then we had break for 30 minutes/1 hour I think I,m not sure how long,after the break they called/round up all speakers then during the question and answers, which was people have to give a question note , so they can pick which question were going to be asked, which to me was weird so no live questioning from the audience, thats when this Spanish guy named Rafa (didnt know his name then) started saying something to the spanish speaker in spanish in the white suit from the middle of the room and they ignored him so he keep repeating himself and raising his voice until some of the Spanish participants/audience started telling him to stop I think and leave so the screaming was back and forth, which I didnt know this was about the supposed threats that Dr. Greer made to a couple of Spanish inventors I found out about later when the conference was over, back to the story so this guy Rafa left then the room then maybe 10-15 minutes later about 6-8 guys and a girl barge in and started walking really fast straight to the podium one guy had a laptop , they then jump on the stage then all the security jump out from everywhere , then this one girl pushed one the guys off the stage( I'm not sure if shes security she wasnt wearing a uniform) then one security guy have one of those guys in a headlock then the other security have one guy arm twist and so on it was a big mess a few of the speakers were shocked and scared specially the lady speaker(forgot her name) , all the people that didnt understand spanish (includingme ) thought they were trying to disclose something, and were not being allowed so a few english speaking people started saying lem them speak, and later on I learned it was about disclosing theyre invention and also the supposed threats that were made to them.........I got a ride from one of the guys that storm the podium (friends of the inventor) to go back to the terminal so I can go back to Barcelona after the conference.


Oh and I saw Bill and Kerry leaving in a hurry I think they were going to interview Dr. Greer if not somebody else.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

case closed , wait for the interveiw. end thread

[orthodoxymoron]

If this question has already been asked and answered...forgive me...but have Steven Greer or Henry Deacon said much about any possible malevolent aspects of aliens? I continue to be very interested in who the good guys and bad guys are...whether they are aliens or humans. Also...who really is running Earth is a prime concern for me.

Right ball in the left pocket! Scratch!

[TruthWillSetUFree]

I don't know why Dr Greer says there are no negative ET's but I do think he is bringing out the Truth based in his own perceptions, I don't think he is a disinfo agent.

I think the tragedy here is that we spend so much time being paranoid of the people who are stepping up and putting their lives and the lives of their families at stake that we allow fear to filter our perception of them.

I heard someone say that disinfo is to help us practice discernment. I believe this to be the Truth. Especially considering there are billions of bits of information outside our perceptual field at any given moment, out little tiny brains can only pick up about 2000 bits, just that realization alone brings clarity in how much I miss. I am choosing to allow information to bypass my brain and allow my intuitive heart 'see' without my thoughts making negative judgments about people.

After watching Dr Greer at the Exopolitics Summit my heart is convinced he is of the Truth

Love & Light to all
-Truth-

[Baron Cross]

I notice Dr. Greer is a little cocky/ego going on I guess you have to be, to be an efficient speaker, he said that he sent a letter to Obama and gave him one year to disclose the ET presence if not hes going to make contact and do it himself, I thought hes been trying to make contact for years?

[artvision]

Dears,

Before year 2008 I wasn't interested in EXOPOLITIC at all. I mean I didn't want at all. I would like to think that the actual things, I mean bad things in the world are leaded by some families.

But why is that the same families over and over again, after so many generations, because in a normal way after 3 generation they say the fortune is vanished. How come these persons manage to beat the centuries and only them be in control.

Then I thought that is something bigger, an entity that spans many hundered of years, that supporting these family of rulers. And the thought such the extraterrestrial became the only justification.

Then I discovered Project Camelot and that issue of EXOPOLITICS changed a lot for me.

Not only that, but from different reads and investigation, (of course I cannot prove anything my self only by logic and cross connections) that indeed there are extraterrestrials as well as intraterestrials as well. Many of these races will not intervene as Prime Directive. Few of them they are benevolent and decided or, beter say prone to help in some cases, while few are here to profit. The problem with the last, is that they are very vicious and incredible intelligent, much more our intellectual capacity maybe even in 20,000 years of our linear evolutions, non-helped.

There is an extreme interesting of a Professor of Polish nationality, called Jan Pajak which enunciated the theories of Jan Pajak totalizm and galactic parasitism. These are about a race that is parasitizing us, living from our vital energies, from our life energy, minerals, etc. This race is so old and their member are not dying but reincarnating and because they lived so long all of them are very sour, mean and pure evilish. But is not their fault, because inevitably living in such world for such long time, you became same, even worst just because you need to cope.

Really I think this is the case with our planet and if that "guys" are resorting to public menaces of such you mentioned, then they are close to their last moments, at least on this planet.

Another thing, most of World Governments and Ocult organizations are already penetrated by that beings, so saying you do not knowing or not believing that they are evils-at least a part of them, for a person of calibre of Mr. Greer is something my intelligence refuse to accept.

Also, the vast number of so call disclosure or disclosure campaigns, that are popping out like mushrooms after a big rain, has to do with the campaign of preparing the human global mental for tha last threat mentioned by Wernher von Braun before to die, to his assistant Mrs. Carol Rosin:

1)Russians & Communists (passed)
3) terrorists (already and we've been bored of)
3) Rogue Regimes such Iran, N. Korea and such (close to pass)
4) Asteroids and celestial bodies (maybe Nibiru???) - in preparation
5) UFO and alien invasion (feverish preparation)


Also Henry Kissinger has been mentioned here the Alien Invasion or Menace:
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/counterfeit_foe.html

So, more than 90 of the UFO effects nor sightings are from HUMAN origin, either created by special events by similar HAARP systems transmitting cortical visions and sound effects, by ELF means to the viewers, coupled with or type of Aurora or newer version of TR-3B Astra Locust (that name is not by chance-has to do with the following biblical paragraph:Apocalypse 9-3:
"Then out of the smoke came locusts upon the earth, and power was given them, as the scorpions of the earth have power"

This in preparation for the Dark Knight Day, in 28-Oct-2011, when by means of holographic projections, inserting thought and visions, from satellites and terrestrial stations, armies of autonomous robots coordinated by swarm intelligence, using exotic weapons such Puke ray, death ray, ADS from satellites, etc will create a hell on earth.

Imagine billions of people the are seeing their beloved deity ordering in the head to go commit suicide or kill the others, or who know what evilish thing.
The program is the old Project Blue Beam, on steroids, part of it already checked in First Gulf War, when in the operation theatre there has been projected a half mile human on sky, which talking in the heads of iraqi army to surrender to US army because their boss is a dictator.

So that Dark Knight Project (called so because Dark - is where they want to send the human conscience in the darkest pits, and Knight because is like project is viewed like a warrior for advancing their cause, the NWO.

So, right now, I think this is all about so many disclosures, that before were so hidden kept and so utterly denied. Don't you put this question why? WHo has to benefit? Qui Bono? That is the only valid question.

Also there are information very refreshing and positive for the human race hope that will be prove be true.

So, is that I do not believe that a man like Greer doesn't know that with good/bad aliens, also the issue with life threats, seem very plausible because a method of them.

When they want to collect intel about guys from resistance or want to nail, those against their webbing and intrigues, then they set an underground organization, trough proxies, financed by them by covert means using a financing a company you wouldn't suspect, with the only purpose to look genuine and non-aligned with the bad guys. So, the good guys fall in the trap; just that happened all over in history, same happened with people studying the radiant energy (Zero Point, ether, scalar or tesla Energy). It is one of the very well known protocols. And this wisdom is not terrestrial.

[TheChosen]

I've been following Dr.Steven Greer for several years now and I've also read his book Hidden Truth , Forbidden Knowledge.

My feeling is that he is to the full extent of his belief telling the truth as he sees it. I have noticed 2 huge concepts which he hasn't adapted as his truth so far.

1) His religion , or faith is Ba'ha (according to his account in his book). So he doesn't believe in reincarnation. His view of the metaphysical is very limited and basic, even though he has had some powerful experiences.

2) He believes that all ETs are benevolent. Any kind of evil or dark ETs are in his mind covert OPs by our own shadow governments. For example he believes that the greys are manufactured by the shadow governments.. which is actually correct ... a lot of them are factured by us... but then again a lot of them are under control of the reptilians..

In spite of these 2 huge shortcomings which have huge implications, I have to say that the work and sacrifice (for example, his very close assistant has been killed by the PTB and he has also been diagnosed with cancer) he has done is of outstanding level and let's not forget that we have him to thank about the disclosure project which was a major insert into the mass human consciousness about the ET presence. I support him very much in his endeavours about free energy but I am afraid that without advancing considerably his metaphysical knowledge, there won't be too much success.

Free energy is closely tied with the spheres of consciousness itself.. Somthing tells me that if such a project were to succeed one must factor in the larger reality of bad/good ETs, reincarnation, earth changes caused by cosmological factors etc etc... Let's hope Dr. Steven manages to break free from his self-imposed limitations ... From my point of view, through following his work over the years he seems to be a true warrior with many connections that would like to truly help humanity enter a new phase of evolution..

[cosmictexan]

Here is a little video about the Baha'i Faith and the NWO. There are severval other videos on the subject if interested. It makes me think, I didn't know that Steven Greer was of that faith. Hmmmmmmmm

[artvision]

Originally Posted by cosmictexan

Here is a little video about the Baha'i Faith and the NWO. There are severval other videos on the subject if interested. It makes me think, I didn't know that Steven Greer was of that faith. Hmmmmmmmm

Dears,

More than 95% from the so called Truth disclosers are of that kind. The possible good people, knowing something and maybe are all over tormented of remorse and they considering on starting saying something are scarred, like the mouses in the barn, when opening at large, the door.

I do not believe many; most of them come with 60-70% truth just to get the right attention, then inject the dysinfo, or just drag the intended target into "desired" ways.

Do not gulping everything you see or hear even on reputable sites. Also there are people prone to errors. Or maybe that reputable sites are just honey pot traps.


Suggesting to always ask your heart and believe it. Ask heart, is this guy genuine and you will find out!

Also I would suggest do not be in such wonder if you find even the most trusted, be one of them. More of that, be prepared be one of them. Something that is capable to raise and nurture some human being, just to use once, for a single issue, should put you much to thought.

[RedeZra]

Maybe the extraterrestrial hype is a scheme and a scam
cleverly orchestrated by PTB
ufo crafts lights made by scientists
to trump in a future false flag

to trick mankind under NWO

which would not be so bad
if not for chipped and stripped of our rights
and made to worship lucifer

I believe in the supernatural
angels and demons interdimensional

[Luminari]

Latest camelot update:

27 July 2009

• Kerry and I are now in Athens where we have an interview scheduled with Dr Paul LaViolette.

The quantity of high quality video material we have waiting to be edited and/or published is growing rapidly, but we're fully intending to get most of it out this week. Our sincere thanks are due to Dan Bender and Andreas Kalcker who have been helping us enormously with camerawork, lights and editing at a quality level far higher than our usual.

Events yesterday were moving so fast that we omitted to report that we filmed an hour-long conversation with Dr Steven Greer (before last night's incident in the conference auditorium) which might best be described, euphemistically, as an energetic and frank exchange of views.

This is the first time since Project Camelot's foundation in 2006 that we'd ever had the opportunity to talk with Steven Greer, and many may find this very stimulating encounter (another euphemism!) pretty interesting. For us, it was nothing less than fascinating and both Steven Greer and ourselves were able to put on record the divergence in our views and philosophy that constitute two very differing Exopolitical opinions. While we salute Steven Greer's work and personal courage as founder of the Disclosure Project, both views cannot be right.

Meanwhile, at the close of the conference last night, we learned that the Ustream.TV live video feed, provided by Exopolitics Germany, was suddenly cut off when the fracas in the auditorium started. They do not know why this happened.

I (Bill) - with Rob Fleischer, Paula Harris, cameraman Christian Köhlert and a dozen or more other witnesses - were given a demonstration last last night of one the 'Free Energy' devices which had been at the heart of the confusion and conflict.

It wasn't exactly a Free Energy motor, but rather an ingenious modification of a 4-stroke, single cylinder motorcycle engine that enabled it to run on 80% water and 20% gasoline (petroleum). I drank the clear liquid to check that it was water (it was!) - and then poured it in the fuel tank to make up the prescribed 4:1 ratio. After a short amount of priming with regular fuel - which is the way to get it running - it worked perfectly. So perfectly, in fact, that the hotel staff came out to ask us to stop the engine as it was in danger of making too much noise for sleeping guests. We have a short video of this demonstration (with a clear account of how the device works) which we'll certainly make available if the quality is adequate.

• On Saturday Kerry, Henry Deacon and I will be speaking at a one day conference hosted by the Amsterdam Groundcrew, which they have called State of the Planet. We've been asked to announce that this is now sold out.

Our congratulations to them for organizing and filling this event at very short notice. We understand there will be over 200 people there, and we're looking forward to meeting them all. Kerry and I will also be speaking in Poland on 5-6 September, and are open to invitations to speak with other local groups of any size, anywhere in the world, if our expenses can be covered.

--Bill

[cosmictexan]

Originally Posted by artvision

Dears,

More than 95% from the so called Truth disclosers are of that kind. The possible good people, knowing something and maybe are all over tormented of remorse and they considering on starting saying something are scarred, like the mouses in the barn, when opening at large, the door.

Where did you get the information about 95% are of that kind, I guess you are meaning Baha'i faith? I would like to read that info for myself.

I thought the whole idea of this new world was to regain our personal sovereignty (that would exclude religions or cults). We are to take personal responsibility for ourselves (not be sheeple). We must take everything we hear and see and run it through our own personal barometer (heart) and find our own truth.

We have so many distractions that are keeping us from accomplishing this goal. I don't even know anymore what's up and what's down. Information, disinformation it almost seems the same to me anymore. Most truth tellers, I believe, are telling us the truth as they know it but remember compartmentalization. Each person has a little piece of the puzzle and it is our job to put the puzzle together, if we choose to do so. I hope we figure it out before the NWO sets their final plans in motion.

And Watcher, we are not a bunch of now-it-alls, we are simply people trying to figure it all out and are expressing our opinions and you know what they say about opinions.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by cosmictexan

Where did you get the information about 95% are of that kind, I guess you are meaning Baha'i faith? I would like to read that info for myself.

I thought the whole idea of this new world was to regain our personal sovereignty (that would exclude religions or cults). We are to take personal responsibility for ourselves (not be sheeple). We must take everything we hear and see and run it through our own personal barometer (heart) and find our own truth.

We have so many distractions that are keeping us from accomplishing this goal. I don't even know anymore what's up and what's down. Information, disinformation it almost seems the same to me anymore. Most truth tellers, I believe, are telling us the truth as they know it but remember compartmentalization. Each person has a little piece of the puzzle and it is our job to put the puzzle together, if we choose to do so. I hope we figure it out before the NWO sets their final plans in motion.

And Watcher, we are not a bunch of now-it-alls, we are simply people trying to figure it all out and are expressing our opinions and you know what they say about opinions.

That I did not say or infer, I said there are elements here within the forums whom think THEY ARE know it alls, stroll around and check threads

Barry

[Steve_A]

Hi THEWATCHER,

Surely by the very nature of the name, the elements you talk about would KNOW they are 'know it alls'.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

That I did not say or infer, I said there are elements here within the forums whom think THEY ARE know it alls, stroll around and check threads

Barry

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Steve, long time no see. Again unfortunately I have ruffled feathers when my intention was to state that there are certain individuals whom will slow down and even try and ruin the process by bickering, misinterpreting deliberately and generally giving anyone a hard time by constantly being negative. Its late, maybe I'm not explaining that well. I mean no harm or malice nor do I say all here are know-it-alls, merely a few whom have louder voices than others. Sure most can only gain their knowledge by way of books, DVDs and watching youtube etc. Just be wary its a controlled medium and the nitty gritty will not be found in books. Whistleblowers tend to not agree? To contradict each other? Yes thats true to a degree, depending on their controlled agenda, and many will have agendas. Watch out for those with no trackable history, whom have entered the frame out of nowhere within recent times. Those with verifiable histories surely should be viewed with more courtesey and treated with a fully open mind. Again, apologies if I have snubbed noses or trodden on toes, that was not my aim here. But when you have been thru the mill patience tends to get worn thin. Try also being in agonising pain in arms n legs 24/7 and you are bound to get twitchy. Sorry guys if I have come across as a berk, not my intention.

Barry

[micjer]

Originally Posted by cosmictexan

Here is a little video about the Baha'i Faith and the NWO. There are severval other videos on the subject if interested. It makes me think, I didn't know that Steven Greer was of that faith. Hmmmmmmmm

Thanks for this link. I am with you . Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm indeed.

This definately sheds a different light on this.


Why can't anything be simple anymore!!!!

Originally Posted by cosmictexan

Here is a little video about the Baha'i Faith and the NWO. There are severval other videos on the subject if interested. It makes me think, I didn't know that Steven Greer was of that faith.

The Baha'i faith is primitive, or ancient, depending which way you look at it. It has Zoroastrian roots from which Judaism, Christianity, Islam also spring. Zoroastrianism has the original come-back guy (who later is Jesus, for example, in Christianity; Elijah in Judaism).

- In the Book of Malachi, Elijah's return is prophesied "before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord."

- The Baha'i Faith believes Elijah returned in 1844 in Shiraz, Iran, as the Bab.

- Bahá'u'lláh, the founder of the Baha'i Faith, was a follower of the Bab and claimed to be the fulfillment of his promise that God would send another messenger.
.................................................. .....................

Zoroastrianism is the Light/Dark model of the spiritual universe: dualistic. It's where the hell fires come from (final conflagration) in the story. Zarathustra was its main teacher; maybe his role was Saoshyant (may be his name). He comes back at end times, and sets things right, i.e. refreshes, begins anew.

However, the fire extinguishing, re-igniting and sharing new fire sticks is common in ancient cultures, e.g. Aztec.

Primitive? Because humans experience light and dark by the rotations of the earth. From a different perspective, the sun always shines. Shadow is what crooks use, so they don't get caught - by other humans LOL

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by TheChosen

I've been following Dr.Steven Greer for several years now and I've also read his book Hidden Truth , Forbidden Knowledge.

My feeling is that he is to the full extent of his belief telling the truth as he sees it. I have noticed 2 huge concepts which he hasn't adapted as his truth so far.

1) His religion , or faith is Ba'ha (according to his account in his book). So he doesn't believe in reincarnation. His view of the metaphysical is very limited and basic, even though he has had some powerful experiences.

2) He believes that all ETs are benevolent. Any kind of evil or dark ETs are in his mind covert OPs by our own shadow governments. For example he believes that the greys are manufactured by the shadow governments.. which is actually correct ... a lot of them are factured by us... but then again a lot of them are under control of the reptilians..

In spite of these 2 huge shortcomings which have huge implications, I have to say that the work and sacrifice (for example, his very close assistant has been killed by the PTB and he has also been diagnosed with cancer) he has done is of outstanding level and let's not forget that we have him to thank about the disclosure project which was a major insert into the mass human consciousness about the ET presence. I support him very much in his endeavours about free energy but I am afraid that without advancing considerably his metaphysical knowledge, there won't be too much success.

Free energy is closely tied with the spheres of consciousness itself.. Somthing tells me that if such a project were to succeed one must factor in the larger reality of bad/good ETs, reincarnation, earth changes caused by cosmological factors etc etc... Let's hope Dr. Steven manages to break free from his self-imposed limitations ... From my point of view, through following his work over the years he seems to be a true warrior with many connections that would like to truly help humanity enter a new phase of evolution..

Is Dr. Greer still a practicing Ba'ha? A lot of us were born into, & raised in a religion, but gave it up, once we left home & started our own personal search for truth. I am wondering here if this is the case with Dr. Greer, or did he join this religion later in life & is a definite practicing Ba'ha, which could influence him? Otherwise, the religion aspect is out of the debate imo.

[orthodoxymoron]

This is a bit off topic...but I keep trying to think through the possibilities of making the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights the centerpiece of globalism...which would include both political and religious aspects...with Responsible Freedom as the unifying principle. This would be an organized decentralism...with No Unquestionable Authority(human or otherwise). The implications and ramifications of this are quite profound. At first glance...it seems like a dry and lifeless religious/political solution...but through the principle of Comprehensive Concentration...spiritual life of a non ritual/organized religious nature...could be breathed into such a centerpiece.

I'm not sure what this has to do with Steven Greer...other than being an alternative to a potential globalist religon where debate and questions are forbidden. I'm not a USA Uber Alles person...I just want a world based firmly upon Responsible Freedom. I look to a humanistic...rather than a theistic...solution...for global politics and religion. The truth will set us free. I'm just testing the idea at this point. If it is a valid concept...people much more ambitious and capable than myself would have to implement it. I presently prefer taking the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...as is...and surrounding it with globalist applications and wording. This would replace the present U.N. Charter...and would be an end-run around the New World Order. I want people to be more spiritual(in the right way) and I want more alien interaction(with benevolent aliens)...but I do NOT want a malevolent alien theocracy. Once freedom is lost...it can be very, very difficult...if not impossible...to regain this lost freedom. Do we face mass extermination...and total enslavement which could last for thousands(or millions) of years? Be very, very careful folks.

Could people such as Greer...be potentially taking orders from aliens...rather than simply seeking disclosure? This is not an allegation...just a very remote possibility. Wouldn't aliens seek spokespersons? Just something to keep in mind. Did any of the original disclosure witnesses portray aliens in a negative light? Phil Schneider did...and he was brutally murdered.

[orthodoxymoron]

Check out the Lear interview on veritasshow.com. John was recovering from back surgery, if I'm not mistaken. Who knows what other kinds of pressures he might have been facing at that time. I don't see John Lear as an opportunist. Also...I just finished rewatching the 2001 Disclosure Project press conference. I liked what Steven Greer and all of the witnesses had to say. The testimonies had very limited reference to actual alien beings. I'm afraid that presently I am leaning toward a theory of some type of malevolent alien control of the covert military industrial complex, governments, religions, etc. I would much rather think happy thoughts...but I am having a very difficult time doing so. Total disclosure of All aspects of the ufo/alien phenomenon...plus giving the power to the people of the world would probably put us on the right track as a species. We would still have huge problems though. I'm not expecting paradise anytime soon.

[Oliver]

It is all about the disclosure and the way to make it. There are different structures inside the secret government. Even members of the MJ 12 were divided on this issue.
For me, there is no doubt that Disclosure Project was supported by some of these structures. Could be Project Camelot also, and these fractions should be good gays. In his interviews, Bob Dean spoke that he believe the SOMEBODY wants him to do exactly what he is doing, and told Kerry and Bill that somebody told him that their job is also appreciated, paraphrasing.

Luminary touched the nerve. The question about malevolent and benevolent ETs is crucial for the future disclosure. If there is a claim that some evil forces are present on the Earth, this will break apart all of the political and social system, producing mass chaos. The version with positive ETs is far more acceptable for the masses and for the governments, since the system will not be destroyed.

This is a conflict between two concepts of disclosure. I personally believe that first official proclamation of the ET presence will be that there is no danger for humanity, than we will see…

Respect

[jaby]

Originally Posted by Luminari

I think Dr Greer's viewpoint on this is that:

any ET race advanced technologically enough to be using interstellar space travel would have to be peaceful or else they would have destroyed themselves (or been destroyed) long ago.

Not saying this is my viewpoint, but I'm fairly certain I have heard Greer state this opinion.

What is really worrying is that Kerry has launched defamatory attacks on Greer on the Camelot site without clarifying anything with Greer.




No wonder Dr Greer has now decided to be interviewed to clear things up when facing this sort of public 'attack' from what should be a staunch ally.

I'm not saying she is right or wrong, but this attack is quite unprofessional.

Dr Greer doesn't have to explain himself to anybody, he has been on the front lines doing and amazing job long before Project Camelot ever existed.

I can imagine the 'public disclosure' will NEVER happen if we focus on the negative ETs - No government is ever going to admit to their constituents that there are 'bad guys' visiting earth with advanced technology and there's nothing we can do about it. That would cause public chaos and fear and would be a huge blow to national security.

Disclosure needs to be positive for it to work at all. See what I mean?

Maybe Greer knows this and is being smart by focusing on the (overwhelming majority of ) good 'Angelic' visitors exclusively.

This is an enormous 'can of worms' but we all need to stick together to pull this off, in-fighting and name calling is exactly what the 'interior government controllers' want... 'divide and conquer'.

Lets wait and see what the Greer-Camelot interview reveals.. should be a great discussion!

On a side note:
How interesting that Camelot's number 1 whistleblowers real name turns out to be 'Arthur'...

King Arthur - Camelot.. get it?

Yeah I get it..now you mention it...

That was an excellent post.

I especially agree with the paragraph that starts ....This is an enormous
can of worms......etc.

Thanks for all that. When the dust settles...hopefully it will all have
been a storm in a teacup. But already some damage has been inflicted.
This is amunition for the disinfo bunch that patrole the internet.


Given to them, on a plate. Bet they're loving it..





In-fighting is the last thing needed right now.