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Old 08-13-2009, 09:22 PM   #1
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What if malevolent interdimensionals are masquerading as benevolent extraterrestrials? What if malevolent reptilians are masquerading as benevolent humans? This thing could get very, very confusing.
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And in stressing this he points out that as a result we should not be led down the path of SDI initiatives as would really be exploited for human control by the powers that be.
Consider, the powers that be are ET, multi-dimensional shape shifters to be more exact, in addition to third dimensional et's like some greys, as other witnesses have experienced and vouched for.

Who believes that a conspiracy the size of the one we are facing can be managed and controlled by regular humans? Let's get real here. How much smarter would these humans have to be than say anyone you know??

Humans are in the trap, a matrix, the prison wardens that are trying to keep them there, are non-human, or humans working for the non-humans. All of which, at the higher levels, are feeding from the energy of the people trapped in the matrix themselves (the children of God trapped in the matrix).

That being said, what the prison wardens (ETs, PTB) haven't figured out, is that God has had a plan for this planet all along and the dark ones services are no longer needed here. Thank you and goodbye dark ones. However, please bend the knee on the way out and we can just chalk it all up to another experience in the schoolroom of infinity! * yes it will involve paying back the karma... but you'll be worked with to help do so.

Note that the dark ones still in embodiment also get the chance to start making good karma now by turning towards the light and helping work for the ascension of man rather than against it. There's a biblical line about that actually, it doesn't matter how long you've been toiling in the field for the master, just that you started toiling before the appointed time came... We've been able to play in the sandbox of duality in the third dimension (or the duality of the 4th or 5th) for a long time now, but it's now time to come up higher, that's how it works... as above so below, all about the cycles

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Energetic equivalent to our oneness..... I will accept all hate mail:

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Consider, the powers that be are ET, multi-dimensional shape shifters to be more exact, in addition to third dimensional et's like some greys, as other witnesses have experienced and vouched for.

Who believes that a conspiracy the size of the one we are facing can be managed and controlled by regular humans? Let's get real here. How much smarter would these humans have to be than say anyone you know??

Humans are in the trap, a matrix, the prison wardens that are trying to keep them there, are non-human, or humans working for the non-humans. All of which, at the higher levels, are feeding from the energy of the people trapped in the matrix themselves (the children of God trapped in the matrix).

That being said, what the prison wardens (ETs, PTB) haven't figured out, is that God has had a plan for this planet all along and the dark ones services are no longer needed here. Thank you and goodbye dark ones. However, please bend the knee on the way out and we can just chalk it all up to another experience in the schoolroom of infinity! * yes it will involve paying back the karma... but you'll be worked with to help do so.

Note that the dark ones still in embodiment also get the chance to start making good karma now by turning towards the light and helping work for the ascension of man rather than against it. There's a biblical line about that actually, it doesn't matter how long you've been toiling in the field for the master, just that you started toiling before the appointed time came... We've been able to play in the sandbox of duality in the third dimension (or the duality of the 4th or 5th) for a long time now, but it's now time to come up higher, that's how it works... as above so below, all about the cycles
I have to agree with you 14 Chakras. And Jhana, I think we have forgotten the power of our creator God and the fact that we have free will and we are bringing this on ourselves because of our negative way of life and because we have not appreciated our Mother Earth. There are rules for which we must live by in order to have harmony on this planet and the negative energies, demons, ets, etc whatever you call them are manipulating us and feeding off of our negative energies and have been doing it for thousands of years. But I believe its all coming to an end and soon. George Kavassilas has some interesting concepts and you can visit his website www.georgekavassilas.org .

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Cute Jnana!!!

The discussions are becoming a game as much as discerning the game through discussions... A wi-fi of 'what-ifs.'
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Consider, the powers that be are ET, multi-dimensional shape shifters to be more exact, in addition to third dimensional et's like some greys, as other witnesses have experienced and vouched for.

Who believes that a conspiracy the size of the one we are facing can be managed and controlled by regular humans? Let's get real here. How much smarter would these humans have to be than say anyone you know??

Humans are in the trap, a matrix, the prison wardens that are trying to keep them there, are non-human, or humans working for the non-humans...
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This is quite a thread. It brings back some very difficult, but ultimately very eye-opening expeirences.

There are more good ETs that bad ETs (and the variety of other entities and the humans that are being moved about their chess board). The fact remains, when one encounters a rough faction, the event is so overwhelmingly demonic that it's difficult for a person to see around it, so to
speak.

I was lucky as I had the clarity of mind - it being one to three days after the more powerful encounter with the good ones - who will ultimately have the upper hand afer the great, final test of this age is over with. It's a test that is being watched... one we must participate in to be considered worth a helping hand. The self-serving faction would rather we stay dumb. Little do they know; their existance is just as doomed as ours if they don't change their ways. We can help the human ones to the light, but their arrogance has been cemented in them through their in-bread generations).

I'm happy that there are a lot of people on this forum who see the bigger picture. I've been through a lot. Fear and mind control killed my lover 1982. She has told to take a loaded gun, put to her head and pull the trigger. She did just that.

I put the words "this as an NSA friendly site" in one of my web projects. Please don't think I'm a mole for them. It stems from my experience. A couple decades ago they (or an Illuminati faction in thier ranks) dipped into a psychic kettle that left a lot of dark echos that seemed to fall silent (for me, at least), for years, but are now bouncing about again because the age is closing and they better do something because they know (but won't addmit) that the better time line is not accomidating to anti-life adgendas.

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Old 08-14-2009, 08:52 AM   #8
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Wow, it does seem like a concerted effort to destroy PC and Kerry. I read the DB material of shared emails etc.. So according to DB, Kerry dissed BR, warned of problems between them, must be getting money from the dark side, calls us "children", gives out negatively charged crystals (by comparing same type of incident for another person) linked to the Illuminati and nefarious dark rituals so as to cause depression and suicidal tendencies. Let's see DB called Kerry a liar, cheap skate, victim of mind control and possible 'walk-in' and/or demon possession.

I think she's in a no win situation here. It appears there has been a systematic attack going on against PC and Kerry particularly. I mean Bill said he agreed with Kerry's positions yet no one seems bothered by Bill's views. The only thing Kerry can do is continue to interview people, put out great information, and be herself. This division must make the ptb very happy. Hmmm, Order out of Chaos anyone?
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:31 PM   #9
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There's no need to speculate when discernment is available.

Kerry is not under anybodies control. But she's not under her own control either. She's in the middle of dealing with the subject matter of her lifes lesson, and go figure, she's refusing anyones placing control points on her, while placing them all around.

I had her looked over by a 9th dimensional Pleiadian group I have contact with (yes I can tell the difference), and they affirmed that Kerry is not under any entities control.

It's just her working her stuff out, while the recent waves of energy place increased demands that she do so.

That's paranoia coming from whoever suggests she's possessed.

Camelot/Avalon however are childs play for the PTB to steer and control, because so many members depend on "non-self" sources for discernment. It can't come from without.

It's obvious that a majority here still readily embrace PTB influence in their lives. From there, it just seeps in until there is a taint.

Anything Kerry is creating, Kerry is creating.
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:48 PM   #10
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I had her looked over by a 9th dimensional Pleiadian group I have contact with (yes I can tell the difference), and they affirmed that Kerry is not under any entities control.
Its nice you have access to such facilities

Camelot/Avalon however are childs play for the PTB to steer and control, because so many members depend on "non-self" sources for discernment. It can't come from without.

It's obvious that a majority here still readily embrace PTB influence in their lives. From there, it just seeps in until there is a taint.
Yes yes yes yes
So many are realising this now. Makes me smile.
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:06 AM   #11
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Yes yes yes yes
So many are realising this now. Makes me smile.
it was the subject of my thread about us becoming wiser.... but somehow the posts there have steered away from it...

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Old 08-18-2009, 10:57 PM   #12
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I am watching the interview. I had to stop and see if you were talking about it. I haven't read any post yet in this thread. Will do later. I'm at 30 minutes into the interview and I feel discomfort as I'm watching. It is completely inappropriate from Kerry to interrupt like this. I would apologize to Greer. I can clearly see where Greer is going and there is no need to interrupt him like this. Let Greer do the talk, and if you still feel that there are bad ETs, say so when Greer is done speaking.
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:52 PM   #13
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Notice the structure of an interview: One person asks the questions. The other person answers them. This gives an undue advantage to the Interviewer. They may withhold certain questions, or interrupt and not allow enough time to give a full answer. Also the person being interviewed cannot ask any questions! Think about this? I have always thought if I am being interviewed, I should be able to ask the Interviewer questions for the sake of clarity. Now we see in the Kerry, Bill and Steven Greer interview we see these rules being stretched and broken. I think what Kerry is establishing here is an informal style which allows for emotions and feelings to come into play. I think Steven was taken aback, but he defended himself very well. I am glad they all ended up friends when it was all over.
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:55 AM   #14
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I regularly work as a freelance editor for tv companies who produce talkshows & my specialty is the preparation of 'serious' interviews, with high profile guests. Rule one is to make sure that the host asks questions & only interrups when the answer he gets is not what he wants to hear, because it's not to the point & has no news value. When an interview becomes a conversation & a lot of what's been said by either guest or host, is wasting valuable time that could have been used better, someone should point that out. I have the feeling that Kerry is a bit to preoccupied with hearing her own voice. And you can't talk & listen at the same time.
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Bill Ryan interviews Kerry Cassidy as regard the way the talk with Steven Greer was conducted. Learn about the context of it .

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/...32k-081109.mp3

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Old 08-19-2009, 03:58 PM   #16
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Watched the Greer 'interview' last night. And have read through this thread.

My initial reaction to the, ahem...interview that isn't called an interview now ... was..that Steven Greer was very good and that Kerry was rattled and hostile. Obviously there is a personality clash (and baggage) there and what we saw was uncomfortable viewing. I actually wonder if Kerry is exhausted or is being 'got at' in some way....



This is how humans seem to operate...organizations are easily destroyed from within...due to in-fighting, ego and deliberate interference. I understand the 'bone of contention' ...but ....

In-fighting at the top....what a dream senario for the dis-information operatives. Something they have probably been working on for some time.

I could go on and on...but loads of points have been discussed in this thread already....

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I have just started to listen to the radio interview posted by Mudra...but it's hard going....so will finish listening later....so far it seems to be a hodge-podge of gossip and justification for recent events.



Near the beginning of the radio prog. Kerry made a statement that went something like...." We're fighting for humanity and sovereignty....."

That made me ponder the question......How far does the 'oneness' extend?

Does it just apply to the human (hybrid?) race?
Or does it encompass ALL beings...terrestrial and extraterrestrial.

I think this is what Greer was getting at in parts of the 'interview'.

If there is a quarantine for human earthlings...until we mature and become less dangerous...then this is a good thing, IMO.

The word 'dangerous' came up a lot in the 'interview'.......


Healthy, passionate (respectful) discussion is good. Confusion and division is NOT good. Balance and empathy is needed.

So........in conclusion......Steven, Kerry and Bill have given the world a LOT.

I sincerely thank them for that.......The Disclosure Project and Project Camelot kick-started a paradigm shift for me.

I LOVE you Steven, Kerry and Bill.

Keep on keeping on.

Onwards ever onwards.

Hold on...the only way is up....

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I heard that Dr Greer was talking about Stargates recently. I thought i'd bring people's attention to a photograph of the Looking Glass machine used by MAJ to open up stargates

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...d=1#post162874
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I heard that Dr Greer was talking about Stargates recently. I thought i'd bring people's attention to a photograph of the Looking Glass machine used by MAJ to open up stargates

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...d=1#post162874
Thanks for that James....

I have just watched this video on YouTube....about you.



In the 'Steven Geer v Kerry and Bill' interview/discussion/ding-dong...
Steven said that the 'greys' are not ET and that they are genetically manipulated beings made by humans. I have not made my mind up about this yet...but this is something that I have considered to be possible. It reasonates for me.

What do you think....are the 'greys' some kind of exotic, maybe interdimensional hybrid/clones....?

Could genetic material have been used from ET bodies that came from a crashed craft...and has been messed about with secretly for the last 50 + years...?
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jaby: I liked what you had to say.

Are we primarily dealing with humans vs reptilians here on Earth? Are reptilians both physical and spiritual...or just spiritual? Are greys a laboratory creation to provide bodies for reptilians? What evidence do we have for physical reptilians? Have reptilians been found in crashed ufo's? There is a biblical basis for reptilians...but not for greys. Are reptilians physical on another dimension...which is spiritual to us? Remember the crazy ex Area 51 worker who called Art Bell...saying that ET's were extradimensional...and then the whole radio program went off the air? Even if the call was a hoax (which it probably was)...someone pulled the plug on the show. Does this indicate some truth to what the caller claimed? Leo Zagami claimed that aliens were a cover for demons. A Lt. Col. being interviewed by Daniel Ott...claimed that reptilians were demons...and that he was instructed not to talk about Jesus when approaching a reptilian. Can reptilians possess a human being...but not incarnate into a human body which does not possess a human soul? My mind is not made up at all regarding this subject...but I suspect that reptilians...in physical or spiritual form...are in control of the darkest projects of the military industrial complex...worldwide...and that they are the real head of the secret government...worldwide. I'm presently leaning toward completely removing all secrecy surrounding aliens and ufo's...and basing globalism on the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...in a non-nationalistic manner. And then breathing life into it with humanistic spirituality...recognizing the divinity within all of humanity. This would be in opposition to a global alien theocracy aka the New World Order. I could be very wrong and deluded...but I tend to think that this would break the back of this present darkness. Our ultimate enemies are not human beings...even the corrupt people who have sold us out. Global Exorcism anyone?

It is important to look at everything from all angles all the time. It is important to think positively and negatively about a subject...and then focus on the positive. Don't get stuck on positive or negative...but always end on a positive note.


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I watched this video and then clicked on some of the other Ratzinger clips. If you look at the ones from his earlier years as cardinal and priest he looks like a completely different man. It makes me wonder just what this man has gone through. Something happened to him.

I won't judge his being a Hitler youth because many were put into that group who did not agree with a Hitler's plans. I don't know if Ratzinger has ever said he supported Hitler. I wonder what sort of troubles those in the higher positions in the church suffer. Is the Pope even the same man as the younger Ratzinger or are we looking at a bad clone?
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Or are we looking at the emperor from Star Wars? Sorry, he just really looks like him to me and I couldn't resist.
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Or are we looking at the emperor from Star Wars? Sorry, he just really looks like him to me and I couldn't resist.
He looks Like Uncle Fester on the Adams Family to me.

Fester



Hmmm, he really needs a oxygen facial peel, some Blepharoplasty Surgery of Lower Lids, and maybe a touch of botox...

I know I know... I'm not being nice.... goes off now to contemplate. He does look like the evil emperor.

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He looks Like Uncle Fester on the Adams Family to me.
Good one! Never thought of that but dang, that's so true!
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This link: http://montalk.net/alien/148/discern...rmation-part-4

is VERY VERY VERY RELEVANT to this thread...

(Well, frankly, we should read this whole article, not just part 4: http://montalk.net/alien/145/discern...rmation-part-1

It's certainly not to breed fear to look at what's actually happening, it is however, to help us understand what's the true agenda so we don't get stuck supporting an agenda that is not in our best interest.

I've said it before and I'll definitely say it again, if anyone is feeling any interference or opposition from ET's or negative energies, I highly suggest working with Archangel Michael to help cut you free from that opposition and protect you and your family. If you are facing opposition or ET interference, give him a try and see how it goes.

I've created a page on spiritual protection here that will definitely help you achieve protection if that is something you are interested in:

http://www.squidoo.com/archangel-michael

The reason I'm posting the Archangel Michael stuff is because the reality is as you climb higher on the path and get closer to truth, it is certainly ideal to feel and be protected rather than to be just blowing in the wind... Fear is totally unnecessary, but making calls for your protection does go a long way, and it frees you up to focus on the light, and maintaining a high vibration while being wise and serpents and understanding the dark.

Please note, spiritual protection is an ongoing daily activity, not a one time thing, but you have to start somewhere right? So consider trying it and seeing how it goes. If you find it's working, then consider making it a part of your daily routine.

(If Archangel Michael is just too controversial for you, then consider working with Jesus, but make very specific calls for protection daily and ask him to show you the truth, not just confirm your pre-conceived beliefs).

P.S. As for the top link the montalk article, I'm not saying I support all of the authors viewpoints on spirituality and all the details he lays out. However, I think he does a very clear job in enunciating what kind of manipulation techniques the ET's are using and some of their plots, plans and conspiracies. I think he shines a light quite brightly on some of that and very much worth some study.

In addition, this link: http://montalk.net/matrix is EXCELLENT for helping you understand a bit of the opposition you personally face as you make progress on the path. Again, I personally cannot recommend working with Archangel Michael enough to help you pass through this opposition and be as totally protected as your free will allows along your path.

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It's sept 15th, just heard the mp3 of the Greer interview for the first time. I respect Kerry and Bill for all they've done, but... It wasnt an interview it was a personal attack. An effective way to attack someone is to take one little thing they said publicly and mercilessly harrass them without letting them respond until they agree they are wrong. That's not fair.

When I was in art college I would learn everything I could from each Professor, even emulating them to a certain point. The reason I did that was to learn a valuable new perspective on art that I hadnt seen before. It got me thinking in entirely new ways every time.

Most of the interviews with Bill and Kerry have been great, letting the person give their views and perspective. But this one was just an attack.

I think in a crazy violent World like the one that exists on this planet right now where everyone disagrees on pretty much everything, the only logical agreement we can make is the agreement to disagree. And have the right to be left alone if you disagree. And I think if you approach someone to interview them with conflicting views, then you should at least let them have their say. Greer was right. He said "I'm the one being interviewed here" You guys approached him, not the other way around.

As for the content, I am now more interested in what he has to say because of this interview. I do believe the Earth is being quarantened until we become more peaceful. I mean, look at us, this planet is a mess. Would you want to establish relations with such a psychotic planet? Look at what we do to ourselves and each other. I think the Universe finds us horrifying more than anything. I know I'm horrified. I wouldnt want our civilization running around the galaxy starting ideological wars, or engaging the rest of the Universe. If anything, we're more of a threat to the E.T.'s than they are to us. We're more of a threat to each other than the E.T.'s are to us.

Maybe also, Kerry was right in the sense that maybe negative E.T.'s are playing us off against each other. I know one thing, whoever IS in charge of this planet is really messed up and must be stopped (and it isnt me). The only way to know for certain who is in charge is full disclusure on everything (which is beginning to happen). And I mean everything. All "The Wall"s must come down if we are to move forward in any positive way.

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