Something is a brewing, HMMMM

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Barcarolle

Took 3 hours but i finally caught up

I also agree with lionhawks reply about this not being a game, as mentioned my myplanet2.

This may have been a flippant remark but completely dangerous. if you honestly think this is a game then you have already given up.

Nearly all of the new age religions now preach slogans of giving your self to the lord, or giving up your power to another ect, i can see great danger in this as this also implys that someone will come to save us so dont worry or let someone else worry about it, its too difficult or who cares mentality.

All of these forms of conditioning are to prevent us from taking responsability and doing something for greater good for not only us but for everyone else, unfortunately so many people have the victim mentality conditioned in their being ........ the truth is we were not given a chance to know the truth for eons, and have been mind controled every step we have taken.

Here is a chance while we still have some freedoms left to act and make things difficult for these control freaks and give them something off their radar and AI super computers give them. If we move like sheep we are easily controled, but if we all scatter in all directions then things begin to work for us.

Namaste'

I was completely serious when I said this was a game. It's so obvious when looked at from outside. My wife yesterday recounted the story of an experience she had a few months back, where she was driving to the store and 3D flickered and winked out for a couple of seconds intermittently. Her 9th Dimensional Pleiadian guides told her she slipped through the "veil" to another dimension momentarily, and then put things back as they were. I've personally had the "hologram" waver and bend and twist, to where space was not uniform. These types of experience show things not to be as solid and rigid as they pretend to be.

I'm not sure how you are connecting dots here, because I don't interact with any new age religions, or even know what they are. The game here is extreme "highs and lows in polarity". So hell yeah, it can seem serious, but looked at from above, it's no more serious than stubbing the toe. War, death, pain, hatred, abuse, etc, at the end of the day, is no more serious than stubbing the toe. War is a stepped up football game, or chess game. Same thing only bigger and more extremes piled on.

No, there is no one to give ones responsibility and power to. Nobody in a position to receive such, would accept it. They know why we are here, and what we are here to do.

This isn't about giving up, or being a victim. Again, I don't know how you connect those things with likening what we are doing to a game.

What is not obvious from within this game, is that it has already been won. The game is over, and the contestants are still standing there on either side of the line in the sand saying "yeah???? What of it???? you want to go again????"

The idea of winners and losers or even gloating winners and sore losers, is only possible within the game. The game just needs exiting. just put down the football. It's over. We won. Walk away from the line, and so will the other "side". They are only still standing there glaring at you, because you are still standing there glaring at them.

[no caste]

MyPlanet2 -

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

I was completely serious when I said this was a game. It's so obvious when looked at from outside.

This reminds me of a quote I read recently: There is a God! And he's a gag writer!

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

What is not obvious from within this game, is that it has already been won. The game is over, and the contestants are still standing there on either side of the line in the sand saying "yeah???? What of it???? you want to go again????"

It's a game mirage IMO, to be played, in case it's not a mirage. All D's are equal, even 0 D, 1 D etc.

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

It's over. We won. Walk away from the line, and so will the other "side". They are only still standing there glaring at you, because you are still standing there glaring at them.

I have the feeling that we (humanity) have all looped through this before. It's in our memory. And I guess that would be genetic memory. I just had a thought about what 'harmonic convergence' means, for me. I'm going to think about it for a bit.

[Lionhawk]

And the prize is your soul!

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

And the prize is your soul!

who would be stupid enough to offer their soul up as a prize? Nobody can touch your soul without your permission. I really don't know where you get your stuff from, but please post links so we know where not to go for info.

[Lionhawk]

Myplanet2,

Sorry dude as I am not a link junkie.

[Barcarolle]

the prize is your soul !

i like that, meaning you get to connect back with it, your core being, and this is the reward for those that chose not to sell their soul to a demonic/satanic entity or secret society.

I understand how this matrix/ hologram we call 3D may be looked as a game by some but when your soul and core being is involved its the ultimate game without a rule book or referee.

Make no mistake this is a spiritual war on us all, our power is the soul as it never dies, these negative entities feed from sold souls.

being sovereign is protecting your soul and keeping your power.

Namaste'

[Lionhawk]

You want to see it as a game? In away I understand that as that maybe a term that can enable someone to learn something much faster. For instance where I use to struggle with math until the day I made it into a game. Then it just opened up on me because in a game you are suppose to have fun. I made math fun, I can go with that. But when your life is on the line, what do you call it then? When there is a Draconian in your bedroom, there to take you as a food source, would you still consider it a game? Or would try to change the circumstance by figuring out what the polarity factors are? For one thing, I was to young to understand anything about polarity or what a game actually was. At three years old, like I said somewhere else, you are barely aware of what a toilet is. In that bedroom, all I experienced was terror. It wasn't a dream. It isn't a game when your Dad comes home from work and good ole Mom pulls him over to the side and says, "Honey, there was something in Jr's closet last night , like he tried to tell us, and all the stuff in the closet was torn to shreds like someone used a razor.Then your Dad spends the next 4 hours investigating what or how anything could get into or out of the place. Then to end up empty handed with no answers. What kind of game would anyone call that? In a game you're supposed to have fun. It's an artificial form of entertainment. So don't take this the wrong way MP2 as what may work for you is just different as to what works for me. That's really the only difference here as to what we are discussing. The words can sometime confuse what we are really trying to say. I can accept that if this is the case.

[TraineeHuman]

Yes, I’ve also been experiencing a real intensification in the amount and quality of (“benevolent”) energy and help coming from somewhere. It seemed to increase some time in the first half of last year, and then again this year, and again in the last two months or so. I usually meditate for 15 minutes a day. Lately, it takes about a second to get into bliss and extreme peace – which, as at least some of you know, really are far more pleasurable than the love or joy you can experience in any other type of human experience. The interesting thing is, until a few months ago, I usually didn’t get into that state until several minutes into meditation. And that's only one example I could give. The energy around us is certainly running at a higher and finer level. The big question is, what specifically does that mean?

I have some difficulties with the notion of “ascension”. Some time ago I eventually did come to the conclusion that why we’re all ultimately here is that in some sense we volunteered, a long time ago. We volunteered to help raise the “level,” the “vibration rate,” of matter itself. So I can go along with the idea of ascension in the sense that the matter on this planet is being raised onto a higher level. However, I suspect it’ll still remain matter.

To say that Earth is currently in 3D and wants to rise to 5D doesn’t make sense to me, I’m afraid. I happen to know that the Earth is a conscious divine being. And I guess some from a Christian background may feel offended if I say the Earth’s consciousness seems to be at a much higher level than that of Jesus or the other Gods, etc. But that’s the truth, as I understand it. The Earth’s consciousness is already at so much higher a level than “5D” – whatever “5D” exactly is.

[tone3jaguar]

The hyperdimensional geometry of the earth is currently in a 3d format. There will be a shift to 4d format probably sometime in early 2011, then on the famous date in 2012 every dimension in the universe will move up one as a result of the entire universe making an evolutionary leap pushing Earth to 5d. That is the end of the greatest cycle, the 16.4 billion year long cycle as depicted in the Mayan Long Count.

You are right that the earth and everyone on it is already at higher dimensional frequencies, we are just talking from the perspective of our consciousness how we "might" perceive it. Things get so strange once in the inverted time domain of the 4th dimension that we will probably have a much more advanced understanding of it there just because we are no so far away from it.

[Lionhawk]

There is so much light being directed on the planet right now. It's a good thing! Because we sure have needed it. You can tell just by looking around. Even people that you would deem normal are fine one minute and then freak out the next. The light is slowly exposing the darkness out of the shadows. Wherever the shadows maybe hiding. It is also gathering and things will escalate because that is the nature of light. Speed. Vibration being the product of frequency times energy.

I have seen a vision of where this Planet speeds up so fast that it becomes a small star. If that happens, the Reptilians can kiss their butts good-bye. It is a scenario that I hope with all of my being. The days of servitude will be forever wiped out. Unconditional Love will be the new ruler. Gaia will finally ascend and we can either stay or go home. I don't know about you out there but home sounds really good to me.

That is why it is important that everyone who are able, to continue the work within. It will only speed up the frequency of the Planet as you are connected through your root chakra. It only contributes or adds to that frequency of the Planet. That is why it is important that those who can shed the stuff of resistance to do so as that will increase and channel the power from your Divine spark within. Simple electronic principles at work and you are the energy source combined with all the other energy sources to make it happen.

Your life force is anchored to this Planet and the goal is to become a conduit of least resistance. That is why we have the potential of becoming very powerful. In this scenario it is going to be how we finish. We have volunteered. We exercised our free agency to be part of this. Many on the outside off world have told us on so many occasions how special we all are. It is because of what we can do, our potential. Your potential is to be a living channel in the first hand. The mechanics are simple and most of you know them already. When you meditate. Do it standing up. Energy comes through your crown chakra down through your other chakras and out through your root chakra straight into the Earth. A conduit of energy. Now when you open that crown chakra and let all this light come in and flow through you, you amplify this energy. Now if everyone who could would at the same time all across the world, this paradigm of servitude would be over.

The big secret that they don't want you to know is that you are already an ascended being. So I scratch my head when I see others chasing something they have already within in the name of ascension. It is another way to distract you from this very truth. Add to this that the ones seeking ascension are seeking it for themselves outside of themselves using second hand methods. So you have something equated to STS and in the second hand. That's dis-empowering from everything in basic spirit 101 here on the Planet. Ask yourself this. Why does the God Spark within you have to achieve ascension? Isn't the God Spark already the God Spark? Ponder this and try not to complicate it. It isn't complicated.
It is merely PROFOUND!

Namaste'

[mntruthseeker]

Wow I had so much written out here and "poof" it just disapeared.....

Thanks T3J for the pictures you posted........I love the way they showed up for you. More than just one !

Reading some of the post in here made me realize that my struggles are not so one sided and very minor to what others had to endurred on earth.

I can't imagine what being abducted would be like nor do I want to. I just want to go home like the rest of you. I just hope that getting a "glimpse" of that part of the dark side is enough.

This thread was very deffinately needed to put aside some of my own thoughts of world today.

[14 Chakras]

We are more than it appears, infinitely more. We win the game when we stop reacting to it. When we realize it's really just a big movie set, and we're much more than the role we've been playing, then we're free. Time to move on up and continue with real life beyond the illusion matrix.

The devil wins when we react to it, the devil loses when you laugh at it.

The power is in you to do so. Call on the divine, be One with it, it is your true nature.

Man - KNOW THYSELF.

We are all divine Beings having a material experience. This is your world to take dominion over.

We will do so when we are in the game, but not of the game, we see clearly it is a game, a movie, a stage play and we are much more than it. For the world is a stage and all of us people are the players. One day we wake up, we stop being 'played' and we remember who we are beyond the movie script, infinitely more.

Let us surpass our expectations for the reasons we volunteered to come here and have a magnificent impact in raising up and healing this planet.

[TraineeHuman]

14 Chakras, I believe everything you're saying about being "in the game, but not [part] of the game," is so spot on.

As you also mention, it's not possible for us to do that unless we all learn how to really "know thyself".
The only reason why any of us ever sometimes continue to believe we're limited is, we haven't learnt to accept and like and forgive certain things within ourselves. And knowing oneself is all about knowing what's within.

The only reason there are times when we don't connect with the awesome strength and ingenuity of being eternal and infinite spirits is that at those times our "buttons" get pushed. It's so important to accept your buttons, to be OK about their being there. When you really do, that's what heals those buttons -- and so they get weaker and vanish.

[Noela]

Brook - I agree with what you posted regarding "knowing" and
how the ego colours information given out.

Yes, I think this is true of George Kavassilas and most other
teachers, channelled material etc.

What I try to do is see how what a particular person is
putting out concurs with other information, and some of
what G.K. says passes this test, which is why I like him -
with reservations.

[feardia]

Originally Posted by Noela

...What I try to do is see how what a particular person is putting out concurs with other information, and some of
what G.K. says passes this test, which is why I like him -
with reservations.

Quite right noela, it is all about discernment, gk has some great information which I feel is right, he admitted he was duped by the Galactic Federation who lied to him about the dimensions etc., but he has continued on his path and found his own truth, that is what we are all doing. There is some dangerous information out there which will fool a lot of the newly awakening who haven't been down the rabbit hole as long as some of us avalonians.

KEEP OFF THE SHIPS is a refrain which keeps singing in my soul...

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Noela

Brook - I agree with what you posted regarding "knowing" and
how the ego colours information given out.

Yes, I think this is true of George Kavassilas and most other
teachers, channeled material etc.

What I try to do is see how what a particular person is
putting out concurs with other information, and some of
what G.K. says passes this test, which is why I like him -
with reservations.

Agreeing Noela...with reservations....the ego As Lionhawk said needs to be balanced and healthy...I did a thread once on Knowing and Freedom....it was about letting go of the programming of the self by social consciousness...that self being the EGO..the you that you believe you are in this life...you cannot and should not lose that...as that is your experience...however you really should seek the part of you that has the "knowing"..for that is where the truth is...and I believe that in the channeling it sometimes get clouded by the life experience of the channel himself.

A small example of conditioning

Is it really you?

I am born...I am the son of the Prince of Wales...I'm in line to be the next king of England. Everything around me is rich and posh. I want for nothing. My freedom to go in the public is infringed by cameras and reporters...I was raised to lead a Country. Everything around me reflects who I am...it was my destiny to be a King.


I am born...I am the son of a poor man in South Central Los Angeles....my brother is a gang member...I don't know how to read and write properly...it was not a priority...I'm going to grow up to be a gang member.....it was my destiny to be a gang member.

Now you can be neglected as a child or nurtured..that creates you in this experience this life...and the EGO

These are reflections of Social Consciousness..being termed the identity...

We all have egos...it's getting to the center that counts..to get to the center..to attain the unlimited knowing.

going to the real center..the self..the true self, everything changes, everything settles again. But now this settling is not done by the society. Now everything becomes a cosmos, not a chaos; a new order arises. But this is no longer the order of the society - it is the very order of existence itself.

Once you have reached that knowing..you will have true freedom....however .. lets explore FREEDOM

Freedom, from an existential perspective, cannot be separated from responsibility. With freedom comes responsibility. Yet, it is common for many people to seek freedom while trying to avoid responsibility. While, at times, it appears that people may be able to succeed at this, there remains a psychological consequence. This consequence is often not very noticeable, but may find expression through guilt, anxiety, depression, or even anger.

Existential freedom is not the same things as freedom in the political sense we often think of it in America. In fact, political freedom could be view to be a rather shallow, though not unimportant, type of freedom. A person can be existentially free despite not being politically free, and a person can avoid embracing their existential freedom despite being offered great political freedoms.


Ways of Avoiding Responsibility

There are several common examples of how people avoid responsibility in American culture. Conformity is one good example. Americans pride themselves on being autonomous individuals to the point of idealizing individualism. However, upon closer analysis, Americans find extremely creative ways of giving up their freedom. Americans conform through blind allegiance to various organizations and institutions including political parties and religious institutions. This is not to say that being dedicated to either of these are bad. In fact, often they can lead to very positive outcomes. The problem comes with blind allegiance where a person gives up their responsibility to critically think through the beliefs, perspectives, and values of the organization. When this happens, the individual's values are no longer authentic.

When a person gives their allegiance to an external belief structure, they may go in one of several directions. First, they often will become very rigid in their allegiance to the organization or structure to which they have committed. This type of conformity can be seen through various forms of fundamentalism -- religious, political, psychological systems, etc.

Second, they may present as being very committed to a belief systems or organization, but they feel very comfortable bending the rules where it does fit their desires. It becomes easy to bend the rules because they are not really committed to the underlying values system. However, when a person is deeply committed to authentic moral or value principles, they are less willing to act in ways which contradict these principles. The principles are authentic.

Another way avoid responsibility can occur through the belief that one is powerless. There can be many factors which are seen to render a person powerless. A person can perceive themselves as a victim of their environment, of various supernatural or spiritual forces, their unconscious, or a victim of their biology/genes. While an existential approach will recognize that all of these factors may influence a person, none of them render a person powerless or completely control them.

Ahhhh FREEDOM!

Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud


In his book Nobody’s Victim, Christopher J. McCullough explains, "In order to live your freedom, you must first accept reality. ‘These are the choices, and given those choices, which do I choose?’ Whether the option you select is pleasant or painful does not alter the fact that, given reality, this is your preference.
"To live your freedom, it is helpful to stop and ask yourself, ‘Why am I doing this?’ and then notice whether, given the options, you are choosing what you really want, or whether you want to choose something else.... Sometimes the exercise of freedom involves naming your poison -- all choices may lead to outcomes that are in some way painful. But the real pain is that of feeling powerless -- denying your freedom."



Just in the last few days...I have been working on cutting through the conditioning of my surroundings...trying to find the truth..and it is a journey I advise everyone who has not done so to take....get to the core of yourself ...learn who you really are ...step outside of the conditioning...because my friends...

With Knowing comes Freedom

[14 Chakras]

We are all on a journey here to Be More.

There are many who say the ego is necessary 'in this life' because it is 'your experience'.

I agree, it is currently our experience to be unconscious to the divine consciousneess that is within us. It is currently our experience to live fairly uneventful lives, then die and be recycled. It is currently our experience to be drawn here and there by our emotions, not always be healthy, get caught up in thoughts in our head.

It is currently our experience to suffer.

However, this is not reality.

It is our choice to continue to experience suffering and unconsciousness in this life.

But, this is a choice.

Those who choose to hold on to the ego, will continue to experience the fruits of the ego. Those who realize they are More, will be an open door for solutions that will raise up this planet and it's peoples.

You can choose to live in the story, and be of the story (be the ego), or you can choose to transcend the story, transcend the ego and be in the Now and be in the game, but not of the game.

This is our choice.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

We are all on a journey here to Be More.

There are many who say the ego is necessary 'in this life' because it is 'your experience'.

I agree, it is currently our experience to be unconscious to the divine consciousneess that is within us. It is currently our experience to live fairly uneventful lives, then die and be recycled. It is currently our experience to be drawn here and there by our emotions, not always be healthy, get caught up in thoughts in our head.

It is currently our experience to suffer.

However, this is not reality.

It is our choice to continue to experience suffering and unconsciousness in this life.

But, this is a choice.

Those who choose to hold on to the ego, will continue to experience the fruits of the ego. Those who realize they are More, will be an open door for solutions that will raise up this planet and it's peoples.

You can choose to live in the story, and be of the story (be the ego), or you can choose to transcend the story, transcend the ego and be in the Now and be in the game, but not of the game.

This is our choice.

The EGO is necessary in this 3D...but the goal is not to let it rule you...you are you...with or without it.

This is as real as it get

[14 Chakras]

Happy belated B Days Bday peoples

The EGO is necessary in this 3D...but ...you are you...with or without it.

Good comment, I agree the ego is necessary if we wish to keep our consciousness in the 3D realm.

And as said above, "you are you with or without it", we are "I" with or without the ego, meaning, when we overcome the ego, we don't cease to exist. We keep the "I" and simply move beyond the limitations we apparently face here in 3D, we move beyond the story into the Now where no story has room to exist, because all there is is transcending ourselves / becoming more in the Now.

It is my personal goal to raise my consciousness beyond the illusions and limitations of the 3D Realm while remaining here in physical form. I seek the truth that will set me free, the real truth and nothing but the truth, that is well beyond the illusions we have going on here in the collective consciousness of 3D. I am not operating under the traditional religious belief that there is a separation between matter and the spiritual and therefore we have to 'die' to go to heaven, I believe this is a false belief.

I seek to prove heaven is here Now when we choose to accept that reality, we are spiritual beings having a material experience, and this material realm is made of spirit, of consciousness, as is all of creation.

As the great masters have said, we can be in the world but not of it. We can be in the consciousness of the ascended realm, while being in the world here in 3D. This is my goal. I hope it is many others, because I believe it is enlightened beings that are needed at this time, in large part to raise up the collective consciousness itself.

We can't keep trying to solve these major issues we are facing from the same level of consciousness that created them in the first place. If we wish to raise the collective consciousness into a golden age, I suggest it will take a critical mass of people to move beyond 3d, beyond 4d, beyond 5d, beyond 6d, and into the enlightened consciousness where it is clear that all life is One.

When we do so, our victory will be won , both personally and for planet earth.

This is the path I choose, the path where in reality, there are no limitations.

Espavo.

[FIIISH]

Hmmm, why the hesitation? Actually it is very simple!

Couldn't one of us scan this thread and compile the information?
(I am not volunteering, just making a point)

[Tango]

Scan it... So, you can carry it back to WHO....? For What Reason...?

Watching, every move...


Tango

Originally Posted by FIIISH

Couldn't one of us scan this thread and compile the information?
(I am not volunteering, just making a point)

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

I was completely serious when I said this was a game. It's so obvious when looked at from outside. My wife yesterday recounted the story of an experience she had a few months back, where she was driving to the store and 3D flickered and winked out for a couple of seconds intermittently. Her 9th Dimensional Pleiadian guides told her she slipped through the "veil" to another dimension momentarily, and then put things back as they were. I've personally had the "hologram" waver and bend and twist, to where space was not uniform. These types of experience show things not to be as solid and rigid as they pretend to be.

I'm not sure how you are connecting dots here, because I don't interact with any new age religions, or even know what they are. The game here is extreme "highs and lows in polarity". So hell yeah, it can seem serious, but looked at from above, it's no more serious than stubbing the toe. War, death, pain, hatred, abuse, etc, at the end of the day, is no more serious than stubbing the toe. War is a stepped up football game, or chess game. Same thing only bigger and more extremes piled on.

No, there is no one to give ones responsibility and power to. Nobody in a position to receive such, would accept it. They know why we are here, and what we are here to do.

This isn't about giving up, or being a victim. Again, I don't know how you connect those things with likening what we are doing to a game.

What is not obvious from within this game, is that it has already been won. The game is over, and the contestants are still standing there on either side of the line in the sand saying "yeah???? What of it???? you want to go again????"

The idea of winners and losers or even gloating winners and sore losers, is only possible within the game. The game just needs exiting. just put down the football. It's over. We won. Walk away from the line, and so will the other "side". They are only still standing there glaring at you, because you are still standing there glaring at them.

I consider life to be a game of sorts...and that game playing gives meaning and interest to life. The key is to engage in Constructive Competition rather than Destructive Competition. Honest and productive business is an example of Constructive Competition. War is an example of Destructive Competition. This is an extremely important point. Competition and Game Playing are integral parts of Freedom. But Freedom must be Responsible...and Competition must be Constructive.