Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers revisited

[Unified Serenity]

You know, I can't help but feel a whole topic was destroyed and disclosure stopped. Now we have a completely new take on Reps going on and those who were willing to share their less than positive experiences removed from sight. I am not against anyone posting their experiences or views in an experience thread if they have a direct experience.

I believe somewhere in the rules, maybe rule #3 that someone who derails topics no matter how funny or positive is still a troll according to that rule. It appears that a year ago disclosure on Rep experience was tried and it failed. It was tried again, and before people could even say much the energy of openness was turned hostile.

If you don't understand what I mean, let me use the analogy of a woman raped by a football team. She goes to the hospital and the doctor in charge reviews her case, walks in and says, "Wow, what a game we had tonight! Those boys sure can play! My two favorite football teams are UNC and anyone playing Duke". While those comments are innocuous, they are most inappropriate given the circumstances. I hope people who have had direct experiences positive and negative will share their stories, and anyone who is a non-experiencer will really think before they respond with some pithy comment. If a mod wants to censor me so be it, but the reality remains the same. Of course if our words are not recorded for the sake of history, then who does the truth belong to? I think the link I posted tells us.

[bellsisland]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

You know, I can't help but feel a whole topic was destroyed and disclosure stopped. Now we have a completely new take on Reps going on and those who were willing to share their less than positive experiences removed from sight. I am not against anyone posting their experiences or views in an experience thread if they have a direct experience.

I believe somewhere in the rules, maybe rule #3 that someone who derails topics no matter how funny or positive is still a troll according to that rule. It appears that a year ago disclosure on Rep experience was tried and it failed. It was tried again, and before people could even say much the energy of openness was turned hostile.

I started reading the thread the other day and saw how Mudra was trying to lessen the pain with the disney video and posts about evil.

Buddhism is not a philosophy of total give in and just take it in a compliant way. As my martial arts experience is driven by the love of the art form itself, I know that the martial aspect means just that, I can fight. The yin yang is the give and take of love and aggression.

I know deflection is a self defense move.

My truth, in my universe, is, I have had many contacts through the realm of sleep. I mean I am usually asleep when my soul leaves my body to wander the world. I have seen and talked to many different people. I call the aliens people because they look like us.

The ones who want to capture or hurt me or others are a real chore to deal with. Most times when I am captured my mind can over come their tricks. They really get upset when I am Not upset. I just follow them and stop them from harming others. They hate to be followed.

I remember one time I had a call to visit one and when it asked me "do you want to help kill americans?" I shouted "no" and I flew out so fast, straight up. Because it had tricked me into thinking it was friendly I was happy to have escaped. When I am awake during the day I can not remember what he/she looked like. When sleep comes I pick up where I left off.

During my waking hours I have been attacked many times by men and women. I have taught many that rape is not allowed in this realm. When they attack their eyes have changed into the alien slits. And when I deflect their attack their pupils open to a more human round shape. I am told that this is because the blood is rushing back into their brains and not just centered down below.

Thank you God and Goddess for giving me the strength and the honor of fighting for right application of light and love. I am a light warrior. (But l love the dark.)

Any others?

[BROOK]

When people have opened their hearts, and told their stories, all I'm going to say is they need loving support, and understanding.

They don't want to hear that evil is self created.

I can understand some peoples need to sugar coat a topic such as this. The reality of it is all too frightening.
I know at times searching into this topic that I myself have said..this is not where I should be going...this is some heavy stuff.

But it should be understood, that to hide ones head in the sand. To lighten the subject, without understanding, or the ability to conceive what is happening here..is only a way to derail the subject, and deny those who tell their story.

I hope that is not the case this time...with all my heart I hope they can get the disclosure out where it belongs, without ridicule, without subversion intent. Let the truth be told.

Again I leave you with a song
(I'm all about the music)


Is there anybody listening?
Is there anyone that sees what's going on?
Read between the lines,
criticize the words they're selling.
Think for yourself and feel the walls...
become sand beneath your feet.

I leave you with the message that I am listening..and let those who will listen...hear.

Peace be with you on your journey and quest for the truth

[Jnana]

I personally know nothing of reptilian ETs, but I just listened to the Jim Sparks interview on Veritas (which is well worth the subscription price all by itself). He claims to have interacted with five or six different "reptilian" species, i.e., beings with scales, and he found that there were some systematic differences between the species. Some were indifferent to people, some were a bit synical, etc. All of them gave off a "creepy" energy, but it was something he found he could get past. He found that the reptilians were emotional like us, unlike the unemotional grays he interacted with. He does not view the reptilians as being "in charge" of this planet.

He says there are three levels of interaction with ETs. Our regular government, the first level, is for the most part ignorant of the whole thing. The second level, which most of us would think of as the dark cabal, is the power elite of rich people, royal families, etc., and they shoot down craft, capture beings, back engineer technology, etc. Those on the second level thinks they know what is going on and are in control, and they are to an extent, but their focus is too much on this physical world and material success in it (my words) and that keeps them (and us) from advancing. There is a third level that interacts on a regular basis with ETs. Sparks describes them as almost an independent civilization on the earth who to a certain extent don't care about the rest of us. The third level is very far advanced above the second level.

He says a lot more. If you get a chance, give it a listen. The best stuff is in part II.

[BROOK]

Thanks Jnana! I am a member..Mel's the best...and That sounds like a great show...I'm on it

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Jnana

I personally know nothing of reptilian ETs, but I just listened to the Jim Sparks interview on Veritas (which is well worth the subscription price all by itself). He claims to have interacted with five or six different "reptilian" species, i.e., beings with scales, and he found that there were some systematic differences between the species. Some were indifferent to people, some were a bit synical, etc. All of them gave off a "creepy" energy, but it was something he found he could get past. He found that the reptilians were emotional like us, unlike the unemotional grays he interacted with. He does not view the reptilians as being "in charge" of this planet.

He says there are three levels of interaction with ETs. Our regular government, the first level, is for the most part ignorant of the whole thing. The second level, which most of us would think of as the dark cabal, is the power elite of rich people, royal families, etc., and they shoot down craft, capture beings, back engineer technology, etc. Those on the second level thinks they know what is going on and are in control, and they are to an extent, but their focus is too much on this physical world and material success in it (my words) and that keeps them (and us) from advancing. There is a third level that interacts on a regular basis with ETs. Sparks describes them as almost an independent civilization on the earth who to a certain extent don't care about the rest of us. The third level is very far advanced above the second level.

He says a lot more. If you get a chance, give it a listen. The best stuff is in part II.

Thank you so much for leading me up to listen to him. I enjoyed every minute and wil be ordering his books. Fantastic information indeed


I want all of you to know that I have had a visitor twice but no memory at all. I really do not think I even left my home on the first time.......not sure if I really care.

I love reading all that you put here and I hope it can all remain here for those of us that really appreciate you for putting out your stories.

I can't even begin to tell you how much it means as I probally buy your stories more so than some of the whistleblowers. Thank you all for being honest and so brave.

I have been waiting for this type of information since I woke up after hearing it from David Icke. The need to know the truth is great, no matter what it is.

[Lionhawk]

This is my third attempt to post this morning. This is a test. Am I being blocked and if so why?

[BROOK]

He does not view the reptilians as being "in charge" of this planet.

Jnana....thank you for sharing that...on this particular subject...I agree with
Jim Sparks.

We have free will...what we do with that free will is the key!
And I believe this is what the PTB are afraid we will discover...It's a greater part of our Power

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

This is my third attempt to post this morning. This is a test. Am I being blocked and if so why?

I see you LH

[no caste]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

This is my third attempt to post this morning. This is a test. Am I being blocked and if so why?

LionHawk - Don't pay attention to this. It's just jibber-jabber for the search engines. Google can crunch things much faster than I can.

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[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

This is my third attempt to post this morning. This is a test. Am I being blocked and if so why?

I couldnt post either yesterday, DNS errors kept me from getting to the site.

Today I can.

I am moving house at the moment so I dont have much time

A..

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

You know, I can't help but feel a whole topic was destroyed and disclosure stopped. Now we have a completely new take on Reps going on and those who were willing to share their less than positive experiences removed from sight. I am not against anyone posting their experiences or views in an experience thread if they have a direct experience.

I believe somewhere in the rules, maybe rule #3 that someone who derails topics no matter how funny or positive is still a troll according to that rule. It appears that a year ago disclosure on Rep experience was tried and it failed. It was tried again, and before people could even say much the energy of openness was turned hostile.

If you don't understand what I mean, let me use the analogy of a woman raped by a football team. She goes to the hospital and the doctor in charge reviews her case, walks in and says, "Wow, what a game we had tonight! Those boys sure can play! My two favorite football teams are UNC and anyone playing Duke". While those comments are innocuous, they are most inappropriate given the circumstances. I hope people who have had direct experiences positive and negative will share their stories, and anyone who is a non-experiencer will really think before they respond with some pithy comment. If a mod wants to censor me so be it, but the reality remains the same. Of course if our words are not recorded for the sake of history, then who does the truth belong to? I think the YouTube - George Orwell Film - 1984 - Part 10 link I posted tells us.

The moderators are not ogre royal rulers of of the Kingdom of Censorship. 99.9999% of the time the list members are mature enough and capable enough of moderating themselves in this social situation so that others are not feeling too terribly abused. The moderators are not all sitting here picking over each forum post with a fine tooth comb. Really - these days how often must we take on the difficult task of intervention? It is usually when a member has called for our assistance. It's not WHAT you say but HOW you say it.

The other thread went south with the 2nd post, which was done quite innocently and without malice and what I saw after that was an explosion between two vastly different points of view - and the problem was the highly-charged hostility being hurled at non-experiencers who innocently stepped into a hornets nest - and some of the most hostile posts have been removed.

This is a highly charged topic, and I believe the experiencers can make their points better if they can take a few deep breaths and do so with less emotional charge. Reactions tend to be equal and opposite. The more forcefully you try to make your point the greater the other point of view is repelled away from you. The meeting ground of working out issues like this depends on keeping the emotional charges minimized.

As far as the comments about rule #3 and labeling light-hearted responders as trolls - well, to me that sounds a little too much like extreme censorship. Are we having censorship on this forum or not? You want the right to speak your mind. Everyone wants the right to speak their mind. It can be done without personal attacks, name-calling, etc.

What killed the other thread and stopped disclosure? I think it was over-reaction on the part of the experiencers. I think this topic could be back on track. Be the change you want to see.

[eleni]

Thanks Noela for the new working link. Off to check it out.

[Wormhole]

Mudra,

I have to disagree with a point. I think the trick to being self-responsible and self-realized is not in erasing memories, rather, in being fully conscious of all of your memories and the negativity that the world has as well as the beauty it has to offer and to make the realized choice and responsible choice while still holding on to your independence and sovereignty. To act on a foundation of nothingness is to deny the existence of everything; and that is in my opinion lacking in responsibility.

To be aware of all that is, to be conscious of everyone and everything and every ebb and flow is to be in the NOW. To be present in the moment includes past and future. The only illusion is time. ALL is existing NOW. To deny and erase may feel good and give you a way to slip out of your responsibility to the world, but it is a deceptive path which only includes you and allows you to walk past the man that is ailing without compassion.

I am not saying that you are discompassionate, I know first hand that you are flowing with compassion. I merely warn that it is a slippery slope between being and nothingness. I ask the question, "Is it truly service to others to forget?"

The Rep question is a mixed bag of answers, both positive and negative. I have had both experiences. Through these experiences I have still chosen the path of non violence and disclosure. I will continue to talk about my experiences, negative or positive in an honest fashion. I think this is a service, as others want to know.

Peace of mind through the Heart,
Wormhole

[eleni]

Wormhole- with clearing process's- it's not about forgetting/erasing but actually clearing the incidents out of your consciousness so one is free to move on in fully conscious mode.
It can be really painful to clear because you are brining it to full consciousness.

I've been under hypnosis many times for abduction regression and we used EFT to clear the trauma I was experiencing but I have to say I like auditing and
Lester's release technique over EFT for me.

[mudra]

Thank you for sharing your views wormhole,

I do appreciate you way of looking at it.
By erasing memories I mean to bring them into the light of pure consciousness so you can fully integrate them and be fully responsible for them. They are then part of your experience but you don't need to hold onto them anymore. This allows you to constantly be in the Now. For me it's not so much that all is existing NOW it's rather that Existing NOW is all . But as you experience life and livingness your existing Now grows in understanding . So Now is not existing in nothingness . Your existing in the NOW has a quality enriched by the integration of your experiences and this in itself can be measured by the Love and compassion you adress things with.

Love Always
mudra

[Wormhole]

Mudra,

"By erasing memories I mean to bring them into the light of pure consciousness so you can fully integrate them and be fully responsible for them."

I fail to see how erasing the existence of a thing brings it into the light of pure consciousness.

"Your existing in the NOW has a quality enriched by the integration of your experiences and this in itself can be measured by the Love and compassion you adress things with."

When you exist in the NOW, you become Love and Compassion. Love and Compassion are not an address or a tool to measure things by. But these things are oranges to eve's apples. Thank you for clearly stating your feelings and for putting them into print with such clear intention. Our thoughts are very close together, our differences clearly seen upon the canvas.

Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

[mudra]

[QUOTE=Wormhole;178936]Mudra,


I fail to see how erasing the existence of a thing brings it into the light of pure consciousness.[QUOTE=Wormhole;178936]

Probably the use of the term erasing is misleading I agree. What I want to convey is that when you bring memories in the light of consciousness you bring them to your heart, you understand them as being part of your creation and integrate them. And one could say that you have then erased the energy that was making you hold onto them.


[QUOTE=Wormhole;178936]When you exist in the NOW, you become Love and Compassion. Love and Compassion are not an address or a tool to measure things by. But these things are oranges to eve's apples. Thank you for clearly stating your feelings and for putting them into print with such clear intention. Our thoughts are very close together, our differences clearly seen upon the canvas.[QUOTE=Wormhole;178936]

I think Love is who we are Wormhole when not clouded by the hold we keep on wounds of the past. We are Love and compassion . This is not something we can become. It is our essence.
When you meet someone who has Love and compassion it's something you can feel .
It gives you space.

Love Always
mudra

[eleni]

Some info for those interested on releasing:

http://www.releasetechnique.com/what-is-releasing

[Phtha]

There is one powerful form of release or 'conscious clearing' that hasn't been mentioned here I believe.
Forgiveness.
Forgiveness cancels karma.
Forgiveness clears ones heart, ones total being of anger and fear, and all sorts of other negative thoughts and emotions.
I know that it can seem like it is one of the hardest things to do at times...
To use forgiveness at its full potential, one has to believe in providence or karma without question...
As an example, I tell people I know that if I am marched away to some prison camp or other horrible end, I will forgive everyone that plays a roll in my current situation, knowing full well that it is my providence/karma that is the cause of my being there in the first place.
On the surface it might seem like this is a green flag for people to commit atrocities, but it really isn't as they too will meet providence unless they forgive.
Forgiving others is forgiving yourself.
Forgiveness from the heart cancels karma.

[mudra]

I agree with you Phtha...all along.
I enjoyed the loving energy of your light hearted and kind post .

Love Always
mudra

[Wormhole]

Mudra,

Thank you again for your enlightening post. However, I again disagree on a point. Wounds and memories do not cloud us from being Love and Compassion: choices do. Wounds and memories simply are, it is what we chose to do with them that counts .

When I meet someone who is Love and Compassion, I can also feel it. When I meet someone who uses love and compassion as a tool, I question it. It is important to stay awake and see the difference, don't you think?

Thank you for your clarification on "erasing". That was important to me.

Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

[Unified Serenity]

Taking back my power and authority against those who tried to steal it. Powerful visual in this picture.

[Wormhole]

Unified Serenity,

Such a bold and beautiful piece of art Unified, thank you. Did you know that "Virgin" means unowned woman?

I remember my first experience with a Rep. Mentally it said that I was his, that he "owned" me. He was there to "Check out the goods". I felt my soul was in danger. I knew that I had been promised to him. A great strength welled up inside of me, "NO ONE OWNS ME!!!" I was pretty fierce.

We need to be warriors and hold our own power when faced with negative experiences. We can then turn around the experience, and face our future empowered and with our eyes wide open!

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

Ps, Who was the artist on that picture?

[mudra]

Wormhole in your own words you are expressing what I myself feel deeply .
We are on the same page .

Love Always
mudra