Lucifer: Deity of the Elite

14 Chakras · 10-17-2009, 10:23 PM

While I respect that we have all grown up and been taught whatever we were taught in Sunday school and have come to accept certain beliefs.

I also highly recommend reading Deuteronomy and asking the Living Jesus Christ to come into Oneness with you and show you the truth about whether "Jehovah" the god who demanded blood sacrifice from the Jews and created the laws in that book is the same father that Jesus spoke of.

Are you up for the challenge?

The truth will set you free. You are not yet free. That simple.

"Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." (Psalms 82:6)

beren · 10-17-2009, 10:47 PM

Yes we are children of the most high. But that most high is the one you don`t fancy so far...

If you noticed, only law that was was given by Yahweh was 10 commandments on the stone tablets. All other was written by Moses. Also you should notice the level oaf awareness of people in those times. Even we today with all our technology are not developed emotionally and spiritually, imagine them in the past. Why do you think they had all those laws with : do not have sex with your mother,father,sister,brother,animals...or other sounding silly to us-laws?

Their level was damn low. Only few really were a bit above in thinking. Yahweh allowed blood sacrifice because all they knew then was that. As a nation they only valued blood of their animals because if you offer the precious thing for your survival (such as sheep or calf) ,then their blood was holy to the people. It was professed that Jesus will give his own blood once and for all for humanity to literary and spiritually finally save humanity.
When you look from the side blood doesn`t really means to God because he as creator could make new things right away , but what is more precious to you than your life,your blood so to speak? And if you go beyond the physical bonds of dis belief that if your body-blood-life is destroyed and you`re lost, and go into higher realms where God can instantly re create all then you have divine tune of the frequency, you understand and trust God.

Also you find when you read in prophets that Jehovah say that he does not want blood , rather this :
Micah 6:6

With what shall I come before the LORD
and bow down before the exalted God?
Shall I come before him with burnt offerings,
with calves a year old?

7 Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams,
with ten thousand rivers of oil?
Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression,
the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?

8 He has showed you, O man, what is good.
And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly with your God.

Jesus had a darn difficult time to explain even smallest things, imagine the difficulty in Moses time frame. During whole history of God`s interference with humanity ,such a few people ever understood God and his ways...he always had to paint the pictures for them, to lead them as little ignorant kids, to do all for them.

When Jesus came -he was like-OK now GROW UP!

Literary God made new testament or alliance with all people through Jesus with clear message: " I love you my children,and I bless you but now it is time to GROW UP! "

Love and blessings!

14 Chakras · 10-17-2009, 10:55 PM

Part of growing up is to surrender false god's that are outside of you and realize that the source is accessible directly within you.

Realizing that no matter how many outter rules you follow, you will never get into the consciousness of heaven. That you must follow the inner guide and become totally dependent on the 'father' / higher Self within for all of your needs, inspiration, power and love and all will be given unto you.

Of course the olden day people were at WAY lower levels of consciousness. Which is exactly why they believed false god's like ones that demanded blood sacrifice and set up CRAZY rules (but of course we are not going to bother reading Deuteronomy are we?), was a real God.

Jehovah is as much "God" as Aton is, who is in this section with a crappy chanelling.

When we grow up, we begin to realize the true nature of the infinite, it is time to surrender myths, lies and old stories and realize that we are truly creating this world, and when we do it from our seperate consciousness, wanting something outside of us to take care of it, it results in suffering.

Only when we let Life itSelf, the infinite within be the doer, will we have the world as it is meant to Be.

RedeZra · 10-18-2009, 03:42 AM

the Creator is not only confined within Creation

Only a portion of the Creator's Consciousness is within Creation

still it is the essence of all that is

the Creator is the Being before Creation

the Being of Bliss whom we "Oooh God" moan about towards the pleasure peak of orgasm - the little death

the Being of Awareness whom we participate with in moments of intuition - when we know and we dont know why and how we know

God is the full flame of Spirit and we are sparks of that flame of Spirit

the Spirit is the Same in the sparks and the Flame

therfore it is possible for us to surpass Mind and to reveal the Spirit within

and live in It and act from It like the gods we are

I And My Father Are One

Quote:

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

"Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." (Psalms 82:6)

14 Chakras · 10-18-2009, 07:23 PM

This is a beautiful poem. Gratitude for sharing!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedeZra

the Creator is not only confined within Creation

Only a portion of the Creator's Consciousness is within Creation

still it is the essence of all that is

the Creator is the Being before Creation

the Being of Bliss whom we "Oooh God" moan about towards the pleasure peak of orgasm - the little death

the Being of Awareness whom we participate with in moments of intuition - when we know and we dont know why and how we know

God is the full flame of Spirit and we are sparks of that flame of Spirit

the Spirit is the Same in the sparks and the Flame

therfore it is possible for us to surpass Mind and to reveal the Spirit within

and live in It and act from It like the gods we are

I And My Father Are One

10-17-2009, 10:23 PM	#1
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Lucifer: Deity of the Elite While I respect that we have all grown up and been taught whatever we were taught in Sunday school and have come to accept certain beliefs. I also highly recommend reading Deuteronomy and asking the Living Jesus Christ to come into Oneness with you and show you the truth about whether "Jehovah" the god who demanded blood sacrifice from the Jews and created the laws in that book is the same father that Jesus spoke of. Are you up for the challenge? The truth will set you free. You are not yet free. That simple. "Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." (Psalms 82:6)

10-17-2009, 10:47 PM	#2
beren Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Belgrade,Serbia Posts: 508	Re: Lucifer: Deity of the Elite Yes we are children of the most high. But that most high is the one you don`t fancy so far... If you noticed, only law that was was given by Yahweh was 10 commandments on the stone tablets. All other was written by Moses. Also you should notice the level oaf awareness of people in those times. Even we today with all our technology are not developed emotionally and spiritually, imagine them in the past. Why do you think they had all those laws with : do not have sex with your mother,father,sister,brother,animals...or other sounding silly to us-laws? Their level was damn low. Only few really were a bit above in thinking. Yahweh allowed blood sacrifice because all they knew then was that. As a nation they only valued blood of their animals because if you offer the precious thing for your survival (such as sheep or calf) ,then their blood was holy to the people. It was professed that Jesus will give his own blood once and for all for humanity to literary and spiritually finally save humanity. When you look from the side blood doesn`t really means to God because he as creator could make new things right away , but what is more precious to you than your life,your blood so to speak? And if you go beyond the physical bonds of dis belief that if your body-blood-life is destroyed and you`re lost, and go into higher realms where God can instantly re create all then you have divine tune of the frequency, you understand and trust God. Also you find when you read in prophets that Jehovah say that he does not want blood , rather this : Micah 6:6 With what shall I come before the LORD and bow down before the exalted God? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old? 7 Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? 8 He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. Jesus had a darn difficult time to explain even smallest things, imagine the difficulty in Moses time frame. During whole history of God`s interference with humanity ,such a few people ever understood God and his ways...he always had to paint the pictures for them, to lead them as little ignorant kids, to do all for them. When Jesus came -he was like-OK now GROW UP! Literary God made new testament or alliance with all people through Jesus with clear message: " I love you my children,and I bless you but now it is time to GROW UP! " Love and blessings!

10-17-2009, 10:55 PM	#3
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Lucifer: Deity of the Elite Part of growing up is to surrender false god's that are outside of you and realize that the source is accessible directly within you. Realizing that no matter how many outter rules you follow, you will never get into the consciousness of heaven. That you must follow the inner guide and become totally dependent on the 'father' / higher Self within for all of your needs, inspiration, power and love and all will be given unto you. Of course the olden day people were at WAY lower levels of consciousness. Which is exactly why they believed false god's like ones that demanded blood sacrifice and set up CRAZY rules (but of course we are not going to bother reading Deuteronomy are we?), was a real God. Jehovah is as much "God" as Aton is, who is in this section with a crappy chanelling. When we grow up, we begin to realize the true nature of the infinite, it is time to surrender myths, lies and old stories and realize that we are truly creating this world, and when we do it from our seperate consciousness, wanting something outside of us to take care of it, it results in suffering. Only when we let Life itSelf, the infinite within be the doer, will we have the world as it is meant to Be. Last edited by 14 Chakras; 10-17-2009 at 11:00 PM.