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Old 10-19-2009, 06:02 PM   #1
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"... When I get to a certain state I can stare right at the Sun, I pierce through the intense light and underneath is a dark strobe like orb. Unexpainible really..."
"...underneath is a dark strobe like orb..."

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Old 10-19-2009, 06:11 PM   #2
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Tone3 - Update -


Update on Balloon Boy charges
Last Updated on Monday, 19 October o 09:14 Written by Peter Monday, 19 October o 08:59

The family who is at the center of the Balloon Boy case was taken from their home last night, in what looked like an FBI raid. We now know that the story of the six-year-old boy trapped in a balloon as it flew across the sky was a hoax, Sheriff Jim Alderden confirmed that the family “put on a very good show for us, and we bought it”.
http://www.onlykent.com/20091019/upd...n-boy-charges/

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Old 10-19-2009, 06:28 PM   #3
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lol well that though has crossed my mind, I don't know enough about that my-story to say though.

The ancients taught that there are actually 3 suns in our solar system, Sol-Om-On?
The Spiritual Sun, Intellectual or Soular Sun, and the one we see, the Material Sun, they say that because of the alignment of these Suns are the cause of the Planets peculiar elliptical orbits rather then circular.



There are times recorded in the past when they were said to be visible to all.
"In the fifty- first year after Christ three suns were seen at once in the sky and also in the sixty-sixth year. In the sixty-ninth year, two suns were seen together. According to William Lilly, between the years 1156 and 1648 twenty similar occurrences were recorded."






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Old 10-19-2009, 06:58 PM   #4
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The ancients taught that there are actually 3 suns in our solar system, Sol-Om-On?
The Spiritual Sun, Intellectual or Soular Sun, and the one we see, the Material Sun, they say that because of the alignment of these Suns are the cause of the Planets peculiar elliptical orbits rather then circular.


Ohhhh.... the Sun in the sky, the pineal gland, and the becoming 'YOU' transformation of the Scarab Beetle.
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Old 10-19-2009, 07:00 PM   #5
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Here is something I PM'ed to a friend, might as well share it here:

My discernment is pretty strong when it comes to constantly putting our attention on ET stuff… that’s what we start to manifest and most of it is astral and not so nice generally speaking… that’s not because their aren’t nice guys ‘up there’, it’s because the ones that are trying to interfere in the third are not nice guys.

The good guys work in the etheric only when they are here on this planet (which is true 6th dimension) and understand that we are about to go through a major evolution right now, but that to go through this evolution, we have to do it by connecting to our own inner divinity, rather than them showing up and doing it for us, or becoming our new government… so the good guys are not trying to show up in ships, rather trying to stop the bad guys from pulling off their moves, but doing so within the laws of free will and non-interference.
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Here is something I PM'ed to a friend, might as well share it here:

My discernment is pretty strong when it comes to constantly putting our attention on ET stuff… that’s what we start to manifest and most of it is astral and not so nice generally speaking… that’s not because their aren’t nice guys ‘up there’, it’s because the ones that are trying to interfere in the third are not nice guys.

The good guys work in the etheric only when they are here on this planet (which is true 6th dimension) and understand that we are about to go through a major evolution right now, but that to go through this evolution, we have to do it by connecting to our own inner divinity, rather than them showing up and doing it for us, or becoming our new government… so the good guys are not trying to show up in ships, rather trying to stop the bad guys from pulling off their moves, but doing so within the laws of free will and non-interference.
So you are saying that the 4th and 5th dimensions only have negative beings in them? I have to disagree that there are no physical positive ET's. Beings who are in a state of spiritual evolution do not skip directly to the 6th dimension from the 3rd. They work their way up gradually. The hostile universe paradigm is a fear based majestic 12 propaganda spin cycle. The 4th dimensionals ET's can travel interdimensionaly and also in this dimension. It is just a matter of cranking down their frequency enough to materialize here.
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So you are saying that the 4th and 5th dimensions only have negative beings in them?
No, I'm saying that none of the otherworldly Beings that are working within the will of God are interfering directly here, within the atmosphere, in the 3rd, 4th or 5th.

They may have a presence in those dimensions outside of the atmosphere, but not here within planet earth itself.

If the good ones ever manifest here within the atmosphere, (and they have to be advanced spiritually enough to accomplish this), but they will manifest in the etheric only, only in the 6th. They follow the laws of God, and the law of on-interference and free will is critical at this exciting raising up of humanity to the divine state of grace from whence she came many years ago...

So yes, there are good beings in the 5th, and not so many in the astral (4th) . But none of the other worldly ones are trying to show up here in their spaceships in the third. Nor are they experimenting on humans underground right now either.

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Beings who are in a state of spiritual evolution do not skip directly to the 6th dimension from the 3rd.
This I don't agree with Jesus, Gautama Buddha, and many others have ascended directly to the spiritual realms and earned life eternal in the mind of God. Virtually all of humanity embodied here today is from higher realms, they have become trapped here in the 3rd (trapped, or think of it like a playground to experience this level of separation for a bit), and are now ready to come up higher. All will have to make it to a new 5th at least as part of this ascension process. Many will become fully enlightened to the level of the Christ, which is the spiritual consciousness, the 7th +, and will no longer need to embody here again, they will earn their spiritual victories and life eternal in the mind of God.


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The hostile universe paradigm is a fear based majestic 12 propaganda spin cycle.
Majestic is a U.S. based organization that is how old? 50 years? The dark forces have been manipulating planet earth for many millenia. To use Majestic as a scape goat for everything is exactly the same as using the "devil" as a scape goat for everything. The situation is enormously more complex.

The truth however is simple, the truth is that in reality, there is no separation, we are all One. We are unique and beautiful individualization's and expression's of infinity, but infinity is Oneness. When we truly know this, we are free.

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The 4th dimensionals ET's can travel interdimensionaly and also in this dimension.
My understanding is, it is much harder to physically go up than it is to go down. Astral beings are generally trapped in the Astral, they can't travel upwards in dimensions.

5th and 6th beings can, with the right technology OR spiritual advancement, come down to lower dimensions.

My point is that Et's that are trying to manifest here in the third in their UFO's are generally multi-dimensional, and they're not of the light.

What kind of lesson would humanity learn if a bunch of ET's showed up and solved their problems for them? What would be the point of the whole thing.

We are not slaves, we are infinite spiritual Beings having a material experience and this world is OUR creation. We screwed it up by giving up our power to deceivers outside of us, so we're the ones who are going to fix it. That simple.

That's because God's will is not that a bunch of aliens show up and shock and awe humanity to sign on the dotted line and join their government. Rather, it is that humanity connects to the divine within themselves to heal and raise up their own planet.

My understanding is God is not creating slaves to follow direction, God is creating free willed divine Beings, co-creators, to share the kingdom with. That's you when overcome your own illusions of separation and realize the true power for change lies in Oneness, Oneness of you with your source which lies inside of you.

May the force / source be with you.

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Old 10-20-2009, 12:26 AM   #8
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No, I'm saying that none of the otherworldly Beings that are working within the will of God are interfering directly here, within the atmosphere, in the 3rd, 4th or 5th.
The interdimensional laws of non-interference from higher dimensions exists so that we can be allowed to live out the karma that we chose to come here to learn from. However, as we approach the ascension to the 4th dimension, peoples karmic cycles are being stripped away in preparation for it. The law is in place so that karma works, if karma is no longer necessary then the law no longer applies. This is why they are probably going to show up. It will no longer be interference.

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My understanding is, it is much harder to physically go up than it is to go down. Astral beings are generally trapped in the Astral, they can't travel upwards in dimensions.

5th and 6th beings can, with the right technology OR spiritual advancement, come down to lower dimensions.
I have been under the impression that all dimensions have an astral mirror world associated with them. Our astral is the third dimensional astral world. Then when you get to the 4th dimension there is also a much less veiled astral world connected to it. Why would a 4th dimensional being not be able to move back and forth from our current vibration in the 3rd dimension to the 4th and then back to the 3rd at will?

Are you saying that you think that the ET's are 3d astral beings? The only 3d astral beings that I know of are the souls of the dead and also thought form entities. It is my opinion that the ET's parked around the Earth right now are 4th dimensional material beings. They have technology that enables them to use the 3rd dimensional astral world as a medium for transit. I could be wrong, but that is the way that I currently understand it.

If the beings parked around the Earth where up to no good then they would have already acted. I am going to choose to live in the peaceful universe, which universe are you going to choose?
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:30 AM   #9
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Tone3- I'm under the same impression regarding dimensions- it makes sense.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:15 AM   #10
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Tone3 or 14 or both...

Can you please describe 3, 4, 5, 6 and higher dimensions (11 atm?)

Using as much logic as possible and as less abstract explanation as possible?


Example: 3D is a world where beings make stuff (living spaces, tools, vehicles, electronics...etc) using natural materials, live by breathing gas in their environment, drinking water and eating plant and/or animals. In case of being dumb asses they pollute and destroy their environment. They also tend to be quit suicidal and kill each-other on a regular basis. But there is also a chance for them to live in peace and tranquility as long as they do not peruse the materialistic way of life...since if they do...they eventually deplete the environment and die as stupid as they are.


Collier said there are a lot more colors in a higher dimension...now that for example tells me nothing. How are more colors suppose to explain how things are...

What I wish to know is stuff like:

Do you have a physical body?
Is everything the same, you are just vibrating higher?
What does it mean to vibrate higher?
Do you get any special "powers"?
etc...

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Old 10-20-2009, 06:38 AM   #11
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Here's a start I created to help address this question: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16911

My understanding is on the Astral, Astral realm is fourth period. It is represented as the water element. The fifth doesn't have an 'astral' they'd have to go down to the fourth to get to the astral.

Astral is not where truth is found, that's found in the spiritual, the realms of pure Being in the true 7th and above.

When ET's say they are from 12 D or whatnot, they are actually in pockets of the 4th or 5th generally speaking. They are either lying, or they are counting various pockets within the dimensions as dimensions themselves. They use a high number to sound very advanced. Beings in the true 7th plus are infinite spiritual beings, such as Buddhas, Christ Beings, Angels, Elohim (not ET Elohim, true Elohim) etc.

Each dimension adds layers of complexity to our experience. For example, we have 5 senses in this dimension (not including the pineal gland, our 3rd eye, our sixth sense), whereas in higher dimensions we will have many more senses, like I'm guessing on this one, but 50 senses in the sixth kind of thing. Life becomes deeper, more complex, more real, more beautiful.

The earth is NOT ascending to the 4th dimension. That is the astral realm, it is a fallen dimension and the 7 levels of hell are in the lower levels of the astral. We'll be ascending to a new 5th (a new heaven and a new earth right?), as there is a great in breath happening and everything is moving higher.

We will move back on the divine timeline where it is much more clear that all life is One and that "God" / the Source / the Father is accessible directly within us.


However, contrary to what some ET's might want us to believe, there is no free ride. Our karma doesn't just get erased or anything and there's no such thing as automatic salvation / ascension.

So those that think we just have to welcome the et's and then we get to ascend, or that we go to the right church and 'we will be saved', I personally believe this is deception.

Whatever we have created karmically it is our duty to balance. We must take control of our consciousness and help the rest of planet earth make it through this time in order to earn our right to ascend higher in the mind of God. This is the right handed path, the path of truth, Oneness, reality.

When people say you are multi-dimensional, they're not lying. You have a body in each of the higher realms. Part of the process of ascending is purifying / enlightening these higher bodies.

The best book in the world (I say with little hesitation, although of course this is my opnion), to help you purify yourself and prepare yourself for this process, prepare yoru higher dimensional bodies is this one by Mother Mary through a messenger here:

Master Keys to the Abundant Life:


The cover is terrible, the content is beautiful. It will clearly explain to you what's happening in your higher bodies, in the higher dimensions and how to fix em up. It's a worthy read...

Further if you want to understand the whole game and reality to the highest degree, this book is mind blowingly amazing, the best I think that has been released to humanity up to this time:


Very few people have read these books yet, but that will change... I'm posting now in case someone here is called and ready.


As for which reality I choose to live in, I choose to live in Truth.
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Old 10-20-2009, 08:36 AM   #12
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Are these video feeds still going to Obama's office? I doubt it.

Oh What the Snap! Here goes! -

{hmmm can't decide between Jimmy Hendrix or Buffy (the vampire slayer) Saint Marie and if it's Buffy I like 2!...}

About Jimmy - my physics teacher in high school said Hendrix was smarter than Isaac Newton.


This is for the kids on reserves playing in radioactive puddles -


Please someone, invite this artist (Buffy) to the NEXT INAUGURATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! {And don't forget the skull and bones!}

Oh! Change of heart!

This is for government drug dealing below board {nice job on the marijuana!}

You'll note the mule is a zebra - weird eh? like the new zoo in Gaza


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Old 10-20-2009, 02:18 PM   #13
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[QUOTE=no caste;179548]Are these video feeds still going to Obama's office? I doubt it.

Oh What the Snap! Here goes! -


You misunderstood me over the videos. I have no clue if the ones on this forum are directed to Obama. BUT the ones that are on anything coming from CCZimmerman or Asthar.................deffinately are. That was the video that was posted when I made the remark

It showed his link as a subscriber. Once you subscribe to a site they are forward along.

I really care less what the IP is as mentioned as even I know how to change that around.........Links are a different story
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This forum projectavalon.net? I don't see those names (Asthar and CCZimmerman) on the member list.
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You misunderstood me over the videos. I have no clue if the ones on this forum are directed to Obama. BUT the ones that are on anything coming from CCZimmerman or Asthar.................deffinately are. That was the video that was posted when I made the remark

It showed his link as a subscriber. Once you subscribe to a site they are forward along.

I really care less what the IP is as mentioned as even I know how to change that around.........Links are a different story
Thanks, mntruthseeker. I wrote President Obama a letter instead.

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Thanks, mntruthseeker. I wrote President Obama a letter instead.
you are such a brat pffffffff right at you

I already sent him a letter complaining about you and said you probally would


CCzimmerman or ashtar are not members here. This was all related to the video below. Check the subscribers.............one is directly linked back to obamas web site............


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you are such a brat pffffffff right at you

I already sent him a letter complaining about you and said you probally would
Great, then maybe he'll notice it in the, wait, I copied from the auto thank you, tens of thousands of messages from Americans each day. It's funny that you use the word 'brat,' since it's on my list of very important definitions. Anyway, for the record:

Hello President Obama,

I want to inform you that I am in full support of, and feel identical to, this video letter to you sent by Charlie Sheen. [link] It is ditto from me.

Additionally, I feel a strong respect for many Americans who have researched what I feel is a criminal and convoluted cover-up, let alone what appear to be actual complicity of government officials in the attacks. It is a testament to truth that civilians have been busy for years, trying to resolve unanswered (and incorrectly answered) questions about September 11th, 2001.

Here is one public thread which actually closes the case:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=170584

In addition, it's been suggested that "Hayden and the NSA- the most ignored "9/11 connection"?

Gen. Michael V. Hayden, currently [sic: 1999–2005] Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence has also served as Commander of the Air Intelligence Agency and as Director of the Joint Command and Control Warfare Center. But more important, he was also former head of the NSA (March 1999 - April 2005). The role of the NSA regarding 9/11, and ironically also the 9/11 truth 'community', is consequently dismissed and ignored by many '9/11 truthseekers'....

I urge you to support a proper truth commission report, which may include considerations of the Oklahoma bombings, CIA assets (foreign nationals) and secret mind control programs of the US government, if warranted.

xxxxx

PS I have chosen this as a non-policy comment, because there is no satisfactory public policy regarding citizen surveillance (or 'weaponization'), government criminality, US black operations meddling in other countries, etc.
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Tone3 or 14 or both...

Can you please describe 3, 4, 5, 6 and higher dimensions (11 atm?)

Using as much logic as possible and as less abstract explanation as possible?


Example: 3D is a world where beings make stuff (living spaces, tools, vehicles, electronics...etc) using natural materials, live by breathing gas in their environment, drinking water and eating plant and/or animals. In case of being dumb asses they pollute and destroy their environment. They also tend to be quit suicidal and kill each-other on a regular basis. But there is also a chance for them to live in peace and tranquility as long as they do not peruse the materialistic way of life...since if they do...they eventually deplete the environment and die as stupid as they are.


Collier said there are a lot more colors in a higher dimension...now that for example tells me nothing. How are more colors suppose to explain how things are...

What I wish to know is stuff like:

Do you have a physical body?
Is everything the same, you are just vibrating higher?
What does it mean to vibrate higher?
Do you get any special "powers"?
etc...

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I can only attempt to explain the 4th dimension. What separates the dimensions from each other is simply frequency ranges where the background geometry of the reality within the perception of the being in it is more complex. In other words the background geometry has more dimensional complexity to it, hence the word dimensions. Some people (law of one studiers) call them densities instead of dimensions. Density referring to the higher density of the geometry in these higher realms of consciousness.

The best visual aid that I know of that assists with this is a demonstration of the science of Cymatics. Here the sound is cranked up and the medium is quartz sand. You can see that when certain sound frequencies are attained that the geometric organization of the sand becomes much more complex. This is showing us a window into how the stuff that everything is made of, consciousness, reacts to different frequencies of consciousness.


I can only attempt to convey what the 4th dimension is like and even with that I am only going to be able to scratch the surface. Until I have actually experienced these dimensions, or anyone else for that matter, then we can only make descriptive guesses at what they are like. We actually need higher dimensional DNA in order to perceive these higher realms accurately. The 4th dimension is a seemingly material world when you are in it. The main difference that I know of is that there time is 3 dimensional and space is constant. So there you can walk fowards and move through time here. It is an inversion of space / time into time / space. This world is highly pliable to the conscious intent of its occupants. In other words, your mind becomes like a replicator on star trek.

In order for an ET craft to transit from one side of the Galaxy to the other, the craft actually has to shift its frequency out of the 4th dimensional world and into the frequency of the 3d astral. Then in this astral phase of consciousness, faster than light travel is possible using conscious intent. They can not travel distances in the 4th dimension because that is time / space. If they fly distances there, they will end up traveling through time. When we see them materialize then dematerialize their ships this is because they are simply shifting the frequency of the ship in and out of either the 3d astral or the 4d.

I can only guess what the higher dimensions than the 4th are like. I think that the main thing to understand is that the higher the dimension the more connected you are with the creator of this Universe. Each dimension is getting one step closer to being completely reintegrated with the consciousness of the creator. The creator is 8th dimensional and is about to ascend to the 9th. That is what the end of the 16.4 billion year long cycle of the Baktune long count Mayan calendar is all about. That is the end of an evolutionary cycle for the entire universe. At that point the creator of this universe will become more integrated with the multiverse than ever before which should have some interesting effects.

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Update 10/21/09

Number of mother ships parked around Earth 1033

Number of craft parked inside the mother ships 20,333

Number of Supply Ships 49

Number of Et's on the ships = 1,842,142
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t3j;

Aren't they a bit early?
Don't they have anything better to do while we "wise up" ?
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Aren't they a bit early?
Don't they have anything better to do while we "wise up" ?
I bet they have a LOT of popcorn.
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Aren't they a bit early?
Don't they have anything better to do while we "wise up" ?
I don't know, that is a political question that you will have to ask them.
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Could be fake, but worth posting

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I was wrong, the helicopter was real. This explains the high production values:



Don't you just love viral marketing?

Here's an additional note for the "Something brewing" aspect of this. The green ET near the end, the one with the multiple dangly bits for a nose, is very similar to one a friend of mine has seen repeatedly in meditation. Her opinion is that it is not a coincidence.

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