Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers revisited

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

the teachings of Jesus in the NT sound sensible
and He seemed to know what He was talking about
and spiced His story with some miracles as well
but we pick and choose what we like in the story
we conform His words to our liking and understanding
for the Bible is faulty we say and altered and we know best what He really ment
ludicrous
He talked about the Father and Satan and angels and demons - not alien reptiles nordic whatever
if its not angelic it is demonic
the NWO are of course presenting the demons as extraterrestrials so as to camouflage their infernal nature

**WARNING LONG RANT**


Yes, the people 2000 years ago were so much more open and enlightened than we knuckle draggers of today! Here here, just come out, tell the people who have worshipped an Unseen God, Angels, and feared demons that these beings are from those dots in the sky and took some body tissue mixed it with theirs (sorcery) and made humans. That some of them look like large bi-pedal iguanas, and others like an assortment of beings, yes, that would have gone over, well, like a LEAD balloon!

Come on, Paul can't even talk about sex openly in Ephesians 5, Moses can't talk about sex openly in Deuteronomy (some still think to look upon your father's nakedness is terrible and don't know that it means to have sex with your father's wife), that Ezekiel spoke of an encounter with a UFO by using COMMON every day language of a wheel on it's side that when it when up the people in it's eyes (windows) went up! HOLY COW... a cart wheel that fly's on it's side, how unique.

I used to be a major bible thumping christian (born again recovering Catholic) and I have wrested with my indoctrination for years. I have always loved God, never understood mean and selfish people, forsook a worldly career after graduating from university and studied the bible, Torah, Tanach, Midrash, Targum, Hebrew, Greek, and Chaldea for some 8 years. I've read all of AW Tozer's works, many of Watchman Nee, EW Bullinger and Messianic Judaism. I witnessed Demons, performed exorcisms, baptised too many to count, led many more in salvation prayer, and performed healings all as a vessel of God in Jesus / Yeshua's name. I say I did these things, but I take no glory for it was by the Divine love of God that all these things happened and at that time were for a Divine purpose. Why do I share all this with those here who have a definite desire to see those of us who do not fully embrace the bible as defacto truth in all it's words? Because, I think there are definite problems in how the God of the OT acts schizophrenic compared to the God of the NT.

Yes, there is great spiritual truth in the bible. I do believe in much of it's prophecy, but at the same time from my long arduous studying it does show a message that has been twisted in some places. Truth is truth no matter the age it is given. There are too many examples particularly in the OT of a God who is cruel, evil, uncaring, sadistic, and blood thirsty that are the complete opposite of an unconditionally loving God who is no respecter of persons in the NT.

Maybe you are just sharing your beliefs, but it has a distinct flavor of proselytizing to me. I don't think that the people here who have devoted years to their spiritual paths, studied as intently in esoteric areas and ancient history are going to be lulled into following the idea that we have just got to re-read the bible and accept that we don't understand how important it was to kill all the animals, to rape the girls, kill all the children in order to protect the weak stiff necked children of God who were hell bent on not following all his demands.

Taking a breath, putting on some gentle music and centering.

Unified Serenity

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

**WARNING LONG RANT**
Yes, the people 2000 years ago were so much more open and enlightened than we knuckle draggers of today! Here here, just come out, tell the people who have worshipped an Unseen God, Angels, and feared demons that these beings are from those dots in the sky and took some body tissue mixed it with theirs (sorcery) and made humans. That some of them look like large bi-pedal iguanas, and others like an assortment of beings, yes, that would have gone over, well, like a LEAD balloon!
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Unified Serenity

U.S.......Excellent POST!!

I think we needed the ranting.....I've had a problem with some of the recent postings and posters.

We have seemed to take a religious turn lately and not a spiritual one.

I was raised roman catholic and I have not witnessed more hypocrisy in my 44 years than those doled out by nuns and priests.

I really do believe Satan is running the Vatican and snickered as the nuns beat us and the priests chased little boys and girls.

I would rant on but that's behind.....what's ahead??

Since we are getting more of the "bible believers" that means they are looking for more truth than what they are finding in the BOOK.

I lost the GOD of the bible and starting believing in a creator force ( man...woman...reptile....lava lamp doesn't matter)

Like U.S. says...Truth is truth...written on a fortune cookie or the ingredients of Jello.

It comes out and when you hear it....it makes your soul (22 grams) stand up and say "THERE..THERE...right there!!!"

Where we are getting lost is that it's so freaking NOISY....the voice gets drowned out by the news shows...the ads...and folks telling you what the truth is and what you can believe.

You have to quiet yourself and soul check what's going on.....Everyone waving signs in your face of DOOM..GLOOM..DEATH...DESTRUCTION!!!!!

Put the signs down folks....I'm not a tree hugger ....I see myself as a fighter...a warrior.

But I'm swinging at an enemy I can't see or feel and I keep knocking out the folks around me I care about.

I have to trust....now there's a hard word.

In a group like ours....we are here because we gave up trusting everything being fed to us....

RELIGION
NEWS
GOVT

we stopped.

Now it's time to trust ourselves...each other...and to listen to our 22 grams of creator and move forward.

Peace everyone!!

[Ammit]

Well done both of you, great posts and were much better then what I was going to put up.

[BROOK]

Where we are getting lost is that it's so freaking NOISY....the voice gets drowned out by the news shows...the ads...and folks telling you what the truth is and what you can believe.

You have to quiet yourself and soul check what's going on

It's the frequency war that Carol opened this thread with

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

I think we needed the ranting.....I've had a problem with some of the recent postings and posters.

Hey dont drag me into your problems lol


We have seemed to take a religious turn lately and not a spiritual one.

I was raised roman catholic and I have not witnessed more hypocrisy in my 44 years than those doled out by nuns and priests.

I really do believe Satan is running the Vatican and snickered as the nuns beat us and the priests chased little boys and girls.

I believe so too

I would rant on but that's behind.....what's ahead??

Since we are getting more of the "bible believers" that means they are looking for more truth than what they are finding in the BOOK.

sure some are not stubborn and of narrow mind

I lost the GOD of the bible and starting believing in a creator force ( man...woman...reptile....lava lamp doesn't matter)

Its the same

Like U.S. says...Truth is truth...written on a fortune cookie or the ingredients of Jello.

yes and it does not mean we comprehend it

It comes out and when you hear it....it makes your soul (22 grams) stand up and say "THERE..THERE...right there!!!"

could be the mind too you know can you tell the difference at all times

Where we are getting lost is that it's so freaking NOISY....the voice gets drowned out by the news shows...the ads...and folks telling you what the truth is and what you can believe.

in the serene silence of our own soul when we do not speak and do not think it might come to us

You have to quiet yourself and soul check what's going on.....Everyone waving signs in your face of DOOM..GLOOM..DEATH...DESTRUCTION!!!!!

Put the signs down folks....I'm not a tree hugger ....I see myself as a fighter...a warrior.

But I'm swinging at an enemy I can't see or feel and I keep knocking out the folks around me I care about.

put on the gloves of compassion and forbearance in case you hit it wont hurt

I have to trust....now there's a hard word.

trust the still space within yourself and be sound sceptic to everything

In a group like ours....we are here because we gave up trusting everything being fed to us....

RELIGION
NEWS
GOVT

we stopped.

Now it's time to trust ourselves...each other...and to listen to our 22 grams of creator and move forward.

oh a philosopher too nicee

Peace everyone!!

Yes let's be proponents of peace amist the differences we encounter on our journeys toward the great Peace

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

Yes let's be proponents of peace amist the differences we encounter on our journeys toward the great Peace

I guess we aren't that different.....and we all have a common enemy.

Now can someone tell me what he looks like...where he\she is....are they human...are the a reptile half breed.....a blue blood...

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

Maybe you are just sharing your beliefs, but it has a distinct flavor of proselytizing to me. I don't think that the people here who have devoted years to their spiritual paths, studied as intently in esoteric areas and ancient history are going to be lulled into following the idea that we have just got to re-read the bible and accept that we don't understand how important it was to kill all the animals, to rape the girls, kill all the children in order to protect the weak stiff necked children of God who were hell bent on not following all his demands.

Taking a breath, putting on some gentle music and centering.

Unified Serenity

Breathe Well said

[Wormhole]

Unified, great post. I honor your truth. Thank you. I want to add that it is refreshing that people have been allowed to state their opinions here and not be stopped. This is an important conversation.

I say walk with both feet. Those of you who wish to believe that the bible is an unbiased book of ultimate truth... that is your choice. But you're standing on one foot in my opinion. Have you ever looked into that validity? Really, have you? Now if you want to share a Rep story or add something that has legs... please, I encourage it. For example, earlier it was stated that using the name of Christ gets results. I find that interesting. I've also heard that Buddah, Mohammed, and Isis gat results too... by the way.

I personally do not believe that "God" (or whatever you want to call the whole of which we all are a part) desires us not to have choice and the ability to use it. When I say this I mean that I believe that any religious organization is underneath just another system of control. True responsibility comes with knowledge and making the right choice through your own guidance. Not some higher power telling you what to do, who to kill, or not to wear blue on fridays. It's a bit much don't you think. After all, blue is my favorite color. LOL

I'm not one to swallow down a drink without asking what's in it first. Sorry, but I hope the bible thumpers take a time out one day... if THEY let you, and take a deep look in that cup your offering. You may be mighty surprised at what your drinking. I say this with respect and with a hope that you will earnestly consider what I am saying.

But choice is choice. So go ahead and chose what you want to believe, as we still maintain that choice, at least now, I'm glad to see its being exercised here.

Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,

Sorry guys, while I was writing this response I didn't realize that a whole new conversation happened. Pray continue...
Wormhole

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

The bible he spoke of is the Tanach. Have you ever read the Tanach in it's original language or studied it's Hebrew idioms and culture? The codification was in 326 AD and they tossed out much of what the people were accepting as sacred scripture. The Gnostics were completely ignored.

Indeed the Tanach is the Scripture which Jesus spoke highly of

the Tanach is the Torah ( the Five Books of Moses ) the Prophets the Writings ( Psalms Proverbs Job Chronicles and more )

Suffice to say we know the text in the Tanach by reading the Old Testament which is based on the Septuagint ( the Greek translation c.200 BC )
What we miss is the pronunciation and the cantillation of the Hebrew text


Scholars today do not agree as to when the Jewish canon was set and according to Talmud ( the rabbinic oral tradition ) much of the contents of the Tanach were compiled by the "Men of the Great Assembly" by 450 BC


Some books did not make it to Tanach Canon alas Conspiracy lol

book of Sirach for example excluded by the Tanach but included in the Septuagint

Suffice to say there is no record of any special sacred gnostic texts that were corruptly withheld entry into the Tanach



Look to Luke what Jesus says about the Scripture to His disciples after His Ressurection

Luke 24:44-45

And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,



There is a movement to belittle and make believe the Bible is fiction altered beyond recognition and stripped of validity - why so - for they fear the power of the Christ

There is a movement to whirl the world into chaos - why so - for they love the power of the Snake

These are the Ally and the Adversary we choose in the world and within


for the Christ is within us as the Spirit and the Snake is within us as the Ego

as the Christ is a Being beyond our control so is the Snake a Being of his own


So when everybody shouts look within for truths Be aware who you look to


Let me clarify that I use the Names of the Christian vocabulary

the Buddhist the Muslim and the Hindu will of course use other Names to denote the Champions of good and evil


We do not comprehend the Magnitude of the Serpent nor appreciate the Grandeur of the Spirit

Its not like it is some kind of an even match - even the outcome is Decided - but the once 2nd to One has a Destiny to fulfill

[Phtha]

And of course if you Rota the Tora a bit you get Taro. Rota/Taro/Tora
They are identical stories just told from different angles.
But shhh... don't tell this to fundamentalists as they are told Taro is ebil work of the debil.

This Reminds of the Sator/Rotas square.



Square in Oppède.


Square in St. Peter ad Oratorium.


Square in Cirencester.

Originally Posted by RedeZra

the Tanach is the Torah ( the Five Books of Moses ) the Prophets the Writings ( Psalms Proverbs Job Chronicles and more )

[Carol]

Kinsuemei2, Thank you so much for sharing your story as this was the intention of this thread. From what I read of the work that David Jacobs did the Nordics are grey/human hybrids so it stands to reason the reptilians would hate them. I also listened to Dr. Jacobs interview on Red Ice Radio and read his book "The Threat" which goes into the grey's alien agenda.

http://informationfarm.blogspot.com/...ons-human.html
This is from David Jacobs PDF book
http://dmt-nexus.com/Files/Books/Gen...e%20Threat.pdf

The Threat
Revealing the Secret Alien Agenda

By David M. Jacobs

Contents

1 Recognizing the Signal

2 "I Know This Sounds Crazy, But..."

3 Shadows of the Mind

4 What They Do

5 What They Are

6 Why They Are Secret

7 Infiltration

8 The Hybrid Species—Children

9 The Hybrid Species—Adolescents and Adults

10 Independent Hybrid Activity

11 The Nature of Alien Intentions

12 Life As We Know It?

The Organization Chart

The aliens seem to have a recognizable chain of command and clearly defined roles
aboard their spacecraft. In my book Secret Life, I pointed out that the shorter gray aliens
act as assistants to the taller grays. The shorter aliens bring abductees to the UFO, take
their clothes off, escort them to the "examination" rooms, and even do some
nonspecialized procedures. Shorter aliens rarely engage in extended conversation, and
what they do communicate is usually limited to palliatives and reassurances for the
frightened abductee. Researchers now know that the taller alien, whom abductees
sometimes call the "doctor" or the "specialist" to differentiate him from the others, often
joins the abduction after the shorter aliens have performed an examination of the
abductee. The taller being conducts the more complicated procedures. He takes sperm
and harvests eggs. He implants embryos into female abductees and a few months later he
extracts the fetuses. He conducts staring procedures in which he can extract memories or
information from the abductee and in which he can also elicit sexual arousal and orgasm.
He engages in visualization procedures, during which he can make the abductee see and
even relive life events, or he can create entirely new "events" for the abductee to
experience.

The taller aliens appear to have more of a personality than the shorter ones. They will
engage in a dialogue with the abductee but remain coy about the objectives of the
abduction and about the specific procedures.

Because most aliens are small and gray, for years I thought the Nordics were examples of
confabulation and wishful thinking, which transformed the ugly aliens into handsome,
blond, blue-eyed humans. After listening to many accounts of these more human-looking
aliens, I concluded that the evidence clearly suggests that the Nordics are most probably
adult hybrids, the products of human/alien mating. They hybrids are critically important
and I will describe their crucial roles later.

The reports of "reptilians" or "insectoids" may simply be a matter of word choice, and
some abductees apply these descriptive terms to aliens whom other abductees might
describe as "standard" grays. Assuming, however, that reptilian and insectlike beings are
actually different types, it is noteworthy that abductees almost always see them with the
gray aliens, not alone, and that the tasks they perform are all within the standard alien
matrix. They generally perform the taller being's more specialized functions. Abductees
often express dislike or fear of these aliens, sometimes characterizing them as "mean" or
"evil," although they have no evidence for these assertions.

Although we have not yet delineated the "reptilian" beings' roles, the "insectoid" beings
are coming into sharper relief. Abductees have reported an alien who seems to have a
higher "rank" and supervisory status than even the taller beings. He is very tall and is
usually wearing a cape or long robe with a high collar. He often is described as an
insectlike being who looks somewhat like a praying mantis or a giant ant. He examines
abductees only infrequently and most often engages in staring procedures. When he
communicates telepathically with humans, his talk is often more substantive and he is
sometimes more forthcoming in the information he imparts. But generally he stands back,
observes the abduction proceedings, and may issue directions to the taller beings.

The existence of task-specific beings suggests a hierarchical "society" and the probability
of a "governmental body," with a downward-flowing chain of command from the
insectlike beings to the shorter gray aliens. Other aliens appear to act somewhat
subservient to the insectlike beings. If this is the case, then we can hypothesize that they
might possess the highest authority for the entire Breeding Program, and therefore might
be the group that initiated it.

Abductees frequently comment that the aliens display a "hive" mentality. The shorter
aliens especially look alike, dress alike, and act alike, and on board the UFO, they do
nothing that suggests unique personality traits. All individual activity is directed toward
the abduction goal in a clinical and dispassionate way. The taller gray aliens appear to
have more individuality and the robed insect-like ones even more.

http://aliens.monstrous.com/aliens_cross-breeding.htm

Red Ice has also interviewed a number of other notables including Andrew Basiago. Here is the link. www.redicecreations.com

Andrew Basiago's latest interview is on Red Ice http://www.redicecreations.com/radio.../flashmp3.html

[Carol]

I both admire and like Steven Greer. I've read all of his books, listen to his CDs and DVDs. Paola Harris is a good friend of his and also a friend of mine. One of the things that stood out about Dr. Greer to me was his spiritual path and how long and how committed he is to getting the truth out there. This was an ER doc who used to make big bucks, quit his job and sold what he had so he could move the Disclosure Project forward. He also practiced meditation to point where he has entered into Samadi, levitated and engaged in a number of advanced spiritual activities that only someone who has spent years on the spiritual path could achieve. I'm very disappointed in some of the members comments in this thread and Kerry's degrading and our right slander against him. Particularly when those in this thread know almost nothing of the man other then hearsay.

Dr. Greer is one of the more fortunate contactees as his contacts are the other aliens that Bob Dean has referred to repeatedly in his interviews... "the friends upstairs." The negative alien group are the reptoid/gray/Nordic. I find it curious that Marian is close to the Nordics and also a friend of Kerrys. I also strongly suspect that George Green is influenced by the grays. So it would stand to reason that investigating the character of the person, as in Dr. Greer, is worth the effort if one is really interested in ferreting out the truth. I find Dr. Greer a man of very high spiritual integrity. That was not my personal experience with Kerry.

[no caste]

Originally Posted by Carol

From what I read of the work that David Jacobs did the Nordics are grey/human hybrids

Carol - Could the 'Nordics' be Programmed Life Forms? The greys are supposedly good with mind stuff and programming. The cloning and genetic manipulation tech are also probably very advanced. I haven't read much about it. If it's say, Nazi based science, the professors would want their 'army' to look like that, a robotic super-dooper ubermensch. I'm wondering...

It seems some 'Nordics' may want to go rogue too, to individuality and human experience. (?)

[Carol]

Dr. Jacobs has spent 30 years investigating this and working with abductees. I trust both his research and his conclusions. However, I also think is perspective is limited and wonder how it would be altered if he chatted with Andrew Basiago and those who have been involved in the time travel projects into the future.

Cliff High has something major to share about 2012 on Nov 3rd on Rense... 2012 is important in more ways then one.

Remember the movie Memzi? Is this really Hollywood telling us about a future of hybrids? What happens to humans on the surface of the planet when the Superwave hits? Who is going to be left? Are the ones left only the ones underground or will it be the meek who are in caves? Is this indeed a time of transformation for humans who are at the 5th level transitioning to the 6th level and are the insectoids working to raise themselves from the 4th level to 5th through their hybridization project? And are humans that transition to the 6th level dropping their 3D body to become a light body? I have many unanswered questions as to what will be. That's what makes the future exciting...

[no caste]

Thanks, Carol. I am mulling a lot myself. I haven't seen Memzi or read any books about this.

[Kinsuemei2]

Carol I apologizes if I upset you we all have friends in the business that we protect and it genuinely hurts when they are attacked. If you remember when I have my encounters I take on board some of the residual attitude of the Reptilian race and, indeed as Greer has had positive contact, with positive beings it is only natural that I would consider him to be negative as that is the stance of my contacts if you can call them that, I have never been abducted by the Reptilians only Identified every time one is in proximity.

I too have read his books and watch a number of his DVD's I just do
not trust him due to the information given to me, this is not hearsay
as Greer is in the the mind of the Reptilian race and have referenced
him many times, I can only imagine that because, he is aligned with
the Nordic and does practice love and light, I have not disputed that, but that he is perceived as enemy combatant, but I also feel and believe that he does know the other side of the coin exists, but just wont admit this, There is no slander on my part I am just making an hypothesis upon the evidence that i have.

I have no idea what the Nordics are telling him either and we must be aware
that the Nordics are said to be in faction ed within themselves, just as there
are layers to the reptilian race, spread out all over the globe, one hand does
not always know what the other is doing, unless linked into that hive we spoke of, this is why Identifying each other always happens without fail.

I do not believe he is a human/reptilian that is actually not the case, you
can spot a mib or a meat suit a mile away they are not that advanced, walking is tough for them and they are simplistic in their speech and
very non animated. I do believe he has had reptilian contact, I just would
like him to state this for the record, perhaps he feels that it might be unproductive to the community.

Again carol I apologize, you seem to be a very aware person and i like that, I
I hope that you have a blessed weekend, and a very good day
Kinsuemei

[Lionhawk]

If I may intrude the current flow of this thread to address something that I would like to address respectfully and publicly.

Thank-you Mudra for your statements and your apology. It took a lot of heart to do that. That is what a true warrior is all about. I also respect that as that is earned. And to your friends who also got caught up in this, and were wounded emotionally, my deepest regrets go out to you as well. So with that I would like to present you all, mods included, and everyone else, here with a song. Hopefully, if my words here were not enough, then the words in this song may fill in the blanks for you. So sit back, get quiet, listen very carefully, and then you will know where I am, so we can go forward with the healing process of those who have been neglected for so long. It isn't about us as it is about them.

Respectfully,

Lionhawk


YouTube - HAPPY FEELIN'S - MAZE FT. FRANKIE BEVERLY

[eleni]

"The tablets are discussing all these different bloodlines, so let me try to explain how they are related
and inter-related:
1. We have the pure Anunnaki, who came from Aldebaran in a spaceship, and one of their bases on
their journey through the galaxy is Nibiru, which is a part of our solar system. They invaded KI
(Earth) and chased the Reptoids underground.
2. Then we have the pure Reptoids, who were the original intelligent inhabitants of Earth when the
Anunnaki arrived.
3. TU and Mira of the Anunnaki mixed TU’s seed with a Reptoid and gave birth to EA (Enki) and
MAGDI — the twins. The pure Anunnaki wanted to kill the twins, because the mixed genes
created stronger and more intelligent beings than they themselves were. TU and MIRA managed
to clone their sons and SEPT of the pure Anunnaki killed the wrong kids, and EA and MAGDI
went into hiding.
4. The LULUs were a mix between the Neanderthals, who lived here together with the Reptoids
when the “Gods” (Anunnaki) arrived. LULU had 3% Anunnaki blood in them and 97%
Neanderthal. They became the Anunnaki’s slave labor in the mines, digging for gold and other
minerals that could be of value for the “Gods”. Another name for the enlightened LULU is
ADAMI (Adam and Eve).
5. The Reptoids, when living underground, rescued some LULUs from the Flood (the Deluge),
brought them to their caves and sealed the openings. There they interbred with the LULU
females, whom they desired, and created a new race, the Lemurians. So the Lemurians had
LULU blood (3% Anunnaki and 97% Neanderthal) + Reptoid blood. This showed to be a bad
combination of DNA, because it created a deceptive, aggressive and possessive race. ETU-
MARU and SARRATA were the first Lemurians who came up to the surface, and SARRATA
infiltrated EA’s and MAGDI’s people, who were left on Earth after the pure Anunnaki
disappeared before the flood. She and ETU-MARU then led the Lemurian battle against EA’s
people and the LULUs and almost wiped them out. EA’s breed fled to Mars. Left on the surface
were the Lemurians and the LULU. The LULU eventually, due to evolution, developed into
today’s homo sapiens and the decendants of ETU-MARU were Marduk Ra, YHWH and
eventually the 13 Illuminati bloodlines. Marduk Ra created the first Priesthood of Amen. "


The above resonates with me because I was given similar (although not in those details) information from a reptoid during an ayahausca session.

[Carol]

Kinsuemei2, you did not upset me. I agree that Dr. Greer is holding info back.
It would not surprise me that he has had contact with multiple alien races.
However, he was not describing the Nordics as his ongoing contacts that I'm
aware of... he is describing luminous multi-dimensional beings. IMPO he is
also a very spiritually advanced human being with impeccable ethics. He is
the type of person who gave his life to literally save others as a Medical Doctor
in an Emergency Room setting for years. Now his focus is on supporting
human spiritual growth and development planet-wide and establishing a
harmonious relationship with these other beneficial beings. He has been in
contact with various beneficial alien beings his entire adult life which to my
mind makes him the expert not the Johnny come latelys who profess to know
more then someone who actually has spent his entire adult life in contact with
these more spiritually advanced alien races.

[eleni]

The Merovingian Bloodline, which erroneously has been called the 13th Illuminati Bloodline is nothing
of the sort, according to Thule, just like I mentioned in Chapter II -- the Merovingians are not of
Lemurian blood but that of EA and MAGDI. So they are of the Anunnaki/Reptoid bloodline, and is
thus not part of the Lemurian 13 Illuminati bloodlines, which are a mix of Lulu/Reptoid. The pure
Reptoids, who still live inside Earth and are the so-called "Reptilians" that people claim they have seen
coming up now and then from caves all over the world. They are friendly to humans and don't want us
any harm, according to Thule, who made a pact with them a long time ago. These beings live inside
Earth and are the inhabitants of Agarthi/Agartha, the ones that the Dalai Lama protects and the secret
behind the "Yellow Hat Sect" (see Chapter 5).

[mntruthseeker]

Carol

I want you to know that I really appreciate what you are putting out there.

I have been reading everything I could lately as my mind is so screwed up on all that I have read in here lately regarding Steven Greer

I mentioned on another thread that I just finished my acquaintance,friend via the internet, for over 10 years book.

She is on board with Steven Greer and even writes about the Praying Mantis and it led me to believe that there are many ET's that are seriously working to help us in our struggle to become a United Universe. She convinced me that they have been working with many for the last 30 years, preparing them to assist the rest of us as we awaken to raise our consciousness

I then got really paranoid reading all that was written here. I tried to get answers to all the questions I was coming up with and things started looking pretty bleak.

I decided to back off my friendship as I was paranoid as ****. LOL I have seen many pictures of her but now she was looking reptilian in my mind.

I appreciate the link you put up there for Information Farm. I am on my second hour of listening to Dr David Jacobs and plan on spending alot of time up there. In fact I see many subscribers there that are also friends of hers. Very Interesting and puts a whole new light on things

[Kinsuemei2]

I agree with that Carol, and it is interesting because I have described my contacts and Reptilians do turn into this luminous glass/plasma before they disappear on occasion. This was described to me as inter dimensional segways I spoke to ammit about this also, but I have been told their are entities that live in this form all of their lives. very interesting and exciting, I guess they could be referenced as angels in some circles.

[Kinsuemei2]

This is to Mntruthseeker.
hello I saw your post, I must ask if you have had this friend for 10 years, get past the paranoia, and ask what does your heart and soul tell you about this person, now I have never seen any insectoids, only reptilians and their are no mentions of these praying mantis creatures in the transfers perhaps this is because I am usually only connecting with the lower cast.

When you look at her now and see her as reptilian is that because your perception of her has altered or simply just that you are being influanced by other peoples perception of her, because if this is the case, I urge you to reconsider, not all of these beings are harmful, yes some are, but after 10 years you would have surley have been targeted if there were anything amiss with this person, they do not gain relationships with humans, they have no need to unless you have something they want, and we are like open books to them, they read us and discard us with ease.

the one that broke my arm, ok shattered my arm knew I had distrust and a distaste for them, and as emotionless as they appear it seemed like he was offended as he started to squeeze tighter and tighter, of course i was so wrapped up into his mind, i did not feel this until my own facilitates regained their control. these creatures are invasive and intrusive & they do not ask for permission. so please ask your self if these qualities are similar to your friends and just take a step back before making any rash decisions.

We all get paranoid and scared, I have lived with fear for a long time, but I have chosen to embrace my darkness that envelops me, as the more i know the less I fear, but the edge to that is the more i know the more I know what to fear. but each of us carries our fear differently and each of us conquers it in our own way.

[eleni]

More info from Thule- if correct this is very interesting.....

The Return of the Gods – NI-BI-RU Entering the Solar System and the Consequences
Here is the thing: Nibiru has an orbit that looks like an ∞ (infinity symbol). It enters our solar system
every 12,960 years. Unfortunately, every second time around, the planet will cause great disturbances
in Earth’s orbit, which will cause earthquakes, floods, volcano eruptions and possibly a pole shift.
These next few years will be very turbulent times, if this information is correct. Many, many people
will die due to this, and at the same time we are facing another threat — the consequences of
Anunnaki’s return, which could lead to a devastating war where homo sapiens are caught in the middle!
The Lemurians have had 12, 960 years to change their habits and turn things around on this planet and
stop the enslavement of mankind, but they have done nothing of the sort. Instead they have intensified
their control. Now, around 2012 or shortly thereafter, Nibiru returns and with it the pure Anunnaki
"Gods". The pure Anunnaki, EA's/MAGDI's people and the Reptoids of Agarthi have all made an
alliance and will not fight each other. They all want peace. The Reptoids have not interfered with what
has happened on the surface since the Lemurians took over, and more or less left us alone. They are
"cold-blooded" reptilians and don't mind living underground, apparently, so that is not a problem.
Neither of these three races want to harm homo sapiens either. Their common enemy are the Lemurians
(the 13 Illuminati Bloodlines), and if the latter haven't turned things around by the time the Anunnaki
return, there will be a war to kill off the Lemurian Illuminati and chase them underground, where the
Reptoids probably "will take care of them". All Lemurians were driven out of Agarthi long ago due to their abuse of power and their oppression of homo sapiens. Like I mentioned earlier, the Inner Core of
Thule (the Vril Society) is in contact with the Reptoids of Agarthi.
This is where Supriem is supposed to come in. They wanted someone with DNA from ALL races to be
able to negotiate and complete the task of cleaning up here on Earth. Therefore, Supriem is the
"experiment". I haven't had any direct contact with the Inner Core of Thule, except for once, but I have
a hard time believing they put all the eggs in one basket. If they did, and Supriem fails, there will
definitely be a war. It could be they have a back-up plan that I don't know of, nor do the lower to
middle level Thule members. So all we can do is wait and see, because I highly doubt they will reveal
these secrets to me.
Another Viewpoint on the “Fallen Angels”
The Bible version of whom the Fallen Angels were, are clearly rejected by Thule. They emphasize that
the Fallen Angels are the Merovingian EA/MAGDI decendants and are not our enemies. Whether this
is true or not remains to be seen, but The Book of Enoch is telling us another story, which also includes
how the Fallen Angels were blood drinkers, just like the RA Material and David Icke have indicated is
the case with the Orion Reptilians. Is this a common characteristic for beings entering from another
density to be able to keep their physical shape here? From The Book of Enoch:
CHAPTER VI.
1. And all the others (Watchers) together with them took unto themselves wives, and each
chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with
them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made
them acquainted with plants. 2. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants,
whose height was three thousand ells: 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And
when men could no longer sustain them, 4. the giants turned against them and devoured
mankind. 5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to
devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood [Wes' emphases in red]. 6. Then the
earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
8. And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil
spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. 9. Evil spirits have
proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men, and from the holy
⌈⌈ ⌉⌉
Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil
⌈ ⌉
spirits shall they be called. [10. As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their
dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the
earth shall be their dwelling.] 11. And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy,
attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food,
but nevertheless hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up
⌈ ⌉
against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from
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them.
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[mntruthseeker]

No I have always precieved her of being of the light and loving. She has done nothing to put this "fear" in me. I got an answer from you once before and I really appreciated it. It was on another post

Thank you once again Kinsuemei2 for answering me


My friend was an honorary ambassador to the Humanity Healing Network which is HUGE on the internet. Millions of People all over the world meditate frequently through this group.

I felt wonderful after reading her book and even after reading your story. You wanted people to see that we couldn't fully believe in Steven Greer and when I got on here I and heard him being linked as possible Reptilian. I felt the paranoida sneaking up ***** many of us got fooled with religion, so I didn't want to be mislead again

This is the message she put up today. She knows what people are going through, I can't accept that this was just for me. Its fitting though

the language of the infinite soul, that which is our Truth, there is no
such word as "fear." Fear creates a boundary, a limitation, and the
soul knows no such thing