Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic]

m1* · 10-28-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eleni

I am in no way suggesting that we commit suicide! Or be killed by the PTB!!

m1- Robert Monroe did quite a bit of work on the belief system territories (where one goes after death).........his books go into explanation and of ocurse there is tons of info on NDE's etc;

I wont pretend to know exactly what happens once we're gone from this place. But there are some things I do know. If (after judgment) we're deemed to be suitable, we're going to be 1). Immortal 2). Able to do everything Jesus did in the Bible 3). Never sick -- that's all I need to know to encourage me to live my life in a way that allows me to love. I'm not perfect at it. I've done some pretty horrid things in this life. However, I know that love is where my heart needs to be -- that is where my intention is and I do try.

Christo888 · 10-28-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by m1*

I wont pretend to know exactly what happens once we're gone from this place. But there are some things I do know. If (after judgment) we're deemed to be suitable, we're going to be 1). Immortal 2). Able to do everything Jesus did in the Bible 3). Never sick -- that's all I need to know to encourage me to live my life in a way that allows me to love. I'm not perfect at it. I've done some pretty horrid things in this life. However, I know that love is where my heart needs to be -- that is where my intention is and I do try.

M1, is there something that says you are not suitable? Where is this information that you do know? I am not picking on you, I want to know why you know this.. is all.

Angel in Disguise · 10-28-2009, 10:22 PM

I choose to believe that humanity won't end... The awakened ones will be safe, the sleeping ones will come to us for guidance when the **** hits the fan... And THAT is when the world will change because that is when all us crazies won't seem so crazy anymore

... Oh.. and PS... If that doesn't happen, not to worry, I don't fear the reaper. I've actually asked him to stop by a few times, he never shows up!...

pyrangello · 10-28-2009, 10:40 PM

Ditto .....,Angel in Disguise

Initiate · 10-28-2009, 10:50 PM

I believe we have two choices:

1) We can accept death and be reborn in the next dimension

2) We can walk the narrow pathway to the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. Fear nothing and make the right choices based on our inner voice. This can be every step we take every thought we invoke.

If we can start being one with all creation then creation will take us through this process. There could be all hell breaking out around us but each step would be guided to bring us no harm.

This has been proven to me time and time again:

I go on business trips out of town often and end up going for a day or two via plane. Some how I manage to fill every single second of the trip. When it's time to leave and come home. I don't think about it I just finish doing what I am there for. Say time to go. Navigate through traffic etc. and end up checking in a minute before closing going through security and board the plane on time. Every time!. The only time I missed the plane was years ago and It was when I feared I would be late. since then I have never feared and everything just falls into place. I also chucked away my wrist watch and refuse to wear it. It's like a smooth steady pace one foot after the other as I walk into the terminal and get to board the plane.

This is how I see we can make the transition. If we just trust what is happening. we will get our body upgrades as we go through the nexus. One foot after the other. Just trust in the process.

Ammit · 10-28-2009, 11:16 PM

For me personally,

I need to find ME,
find who I am ,
what I want,
where I want to be,
what I want to do next and what I can do with it.

Yes thats a lot of I`s, but I does come before U. There is no ego with me.

Seems we all need to find ourselves.
We all seem lost in some respects. Me included.

Ammit

Angel in Disguise · 10-28-2009, 11:24 PM

Ammit... Love the new avatar, very hot

... Personally, I feel I know who I am, I don't need to search for it, I don't need someone to tell me... I know it... I Am Me period!... I'm just lost in a world of people who don't know is all

Ammit · 10-28-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

Ammit... Love the new avatar, very hot

... Personally, I feel I know who I am, I don't need to search for it, I don't need someone to tell me... I know it... I Am Me period!... I'm just lost in a world of people who don't know is all

Ta, what I meant was we need to find our selves before we can go in search of anything else, we as individuals.

I know many on here know exactly who they are, I however do not, so from now on I will be searching for me, for the insights I used to have and connections with me that I lost along the way.

Ammit

Angel in Disguise · 10-28-2009, 11:40 PM

Ammit... Have you seen Dolores Cannon's Moving into A New Earth?... or read 'The Convoluted Universe'... Look into her... She is great at explaining exactly who we are... what we are etc... Highly recommended

PS... I don't mean 'exactly' as we all choose who we want to be... but I'll go with her version as it resonates with me like no other... As she spoke I knew it was my truth as she states things I've been saying for years not knowing where that knowledge came from... It just came from within

Carol · 10-29-2009, 02:18 AM

Based on time travelers who have gone to the future I do not accept that humankind is coming to an end. Andrew Basiago was told he would live until he is 99. He is now 47. He also went to the year 2047 and things looked pretty good. So the shift will see many transitioning and others will stay behind. As for myself, no cave, no bunker, no ET rescue.. my fate is in the hands of God and I'm certain God will choose what the next step will be as it has and is my intention to be of service wherever that may take me.

SWIFT · 10-29-2009, 02:23 AM

I tend to agree with you Carol.
We are controlers of our own fate to some extent and if the powers at be decide your numbers up well lets hope its not a long affair.

Andy

was one of Mels Veritas Show

best shows this year so far and looking forward to more.

Peace
SWIFTY

eleni · 10-29-2009, 02:27 AM

I'd like to believe that the timeline Andy visited is one for our future and it's possible he is speaking of 4th density positive.

From Noel Huntley:

Let us consider the duality, evil/receivers of evil. There is no single pole, evil, on its own. It can only be created with an opposite such as receivers of evil (victims). From a higher non-spacetime perspective there is no evil because it is already 'cancelled' from this higher viewpoint---this mechanism of dualities protects the whole. From the higher perspective both sides are perceived simultaneously---each side, perpetrator/victim requires the other for balance. This may be hard to believe but again it is physics and not so different from phase-conjugation of energy and time, etc. in quantum mechanics. External balance will be sought, but internal balance and unity of the two poles, present in both parties, must be achieved to remove the evil (and also the victim role).

Remember, the two poles, if they come together, disappear and are replaced by higher-dimensional unity. (In particle physics the particle and antiparticle when they come together form a unity no longer detectable in 3D.) This doesn't necessarily mean evil and receivers come together to form unity---though they could mindwise---but that this duality (evil/receivers) is an external reflection of the same duality within the individual's internal world of consciousness (mind, spirit, etc.). When the internal condition is balanced, the external negative behaviour disappears---is no longer part of the person's reality.

Moxie · 10-29-2009, 02:58 AM

m1*
I wanted to know if you had seen Geryl's interview because of the catastrophic nature of your many vivid dreams and I made the connection to his interview.

I also forgot to place a checkmark on Geryl in the whistleblower poll & wish I hadn't because his message was quite convincing, connecting dots.

And I also share your view which you so eloquently wrote in the initial post of this thread. Not that I wish for the 'end' to happen, but accept that it most likely will. We all are going to take our last breath and considering that it is always right Now, whenever it happens it will be in that Now. I get it perfectly.

I used to have a vivid, recurring dream as a child, of tsunamis...
that's about 45 yrs ago.... after watching that interview the words came out my mouth "how would I have had any reference for tsunamis when there were no movies or TV shows then depicting any?"... hmmmm I said to myself... good question!
Thanks

14 Chakras · 10-29-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eleni

From Noel Huntley:

Let us consider the duality, evil/receivers of evil. There is no single pole, evil, on its own. It can only be created with an opposite such as receivers of evil (victims).

Remember, the two poles, if they come together, disappear and are replaced by higher-dimensional unity. (In particle physics the particle and antiparticle when they come together form a unity no longer detectable in 3D.) This doesn't mean evil and receivers come together to form unity---though they could mindwise---but that this duality (evil/receivers) is an external reflection of the same duality within the individual's internal world of consciousness (mind, spirit, etc.). When the internal condition is balanced, the external negative behaviour disappears---is no longer part of the person's reality.

Good stuff, gratitude for sharing Eleni.

I agree this is really the key to solving the puzzle. Move to the higher level of consciousness where all life is seen as part of the same One and that is when the eye becomes single and the 'opposer' loses it's power.

Resist no evil Jesus said.

When you resist, fight back, pick dualistic sides, you create an equal and opposite reaction and will continue to be a victim rather than a co-creator. You'll continue to be playing the game based on the illusions of the game and creating a reality that is a struggle.

Resist nothing.

Shine your light brightly like a sun, Be-cause it is who you and I AM.

Suns of God.

Let there be no shadows in our own consciousness or in our world for the darkness to hide. The world remains dark through deception. If the people knew better they would do better. What we are here to do is to shine our light and Be.

All is well.

bushycat · 10-29-2009, 10:54 PM

Jesus was right, Chakras.
To resist evil is swimming upstream.

Love Always,
Bushycat

Barcarolle · 10-30-2009, 12:16 AM

Excellent point Bushy, we cannot hide from the dark or negative forces as this in itself is expressing fear.

My main issue with the so called new age movement is that ONLY being in love and light is creating a dangerous duality where you begin to deny the existance of the dark and negative forces and thus increasing or manifesting their powers further.

Understanding the roll of the dark side/negative side is of upmost importance as you will have greater respect and knowledge of its roll in this 3D reality we live in. this will also give us greater understanding of how by radiating love and light vibration and allow us to fully appreciate the power it has in this world we live in.

Sure we should always be radiating love and light but at the same time be in balance of knowing/respecting the dark side, but by rejecting these negative forces puts you in a state of denial and a sitting duck to these forces as you have created love and light vibration without any solid foundation.

So if you believe you are in a highest state of love and light and find yourself unable to be around someone who is negative and dark then something is not right, its my belief you are truely powerfull when these forces do not make you feel in fear or uneasy. Your state of love and light will always be above any form of dark and negative forces and by standing in the face of these forces and remaining in this state means you have truely empowered both good and dark forces.

Just my thoughts

Namaste

eleni · 10-30-2009, 12:43 AM

That's what Hayes says;

The Anunnaki-dominated New Age "pseudo-Ascension" spiritual movement (most of it inspired by the "Templar Melchizedek" false ascension teachings of Anunnaki's Thoth, pre-Emerald Covenant Enoch, "Archangel Michael & Friends," "Jehovah," "Maitreya," "Lord Melchizedek and spiritual hierarchy", the Urantia etc...) inherently promotes a fear-based paradigm of "Light, Love and Pretend Away the Darkness (everything is all right)" dogma.

The Illuminati races within the infrastructure of the covertly metaphysically motivated Illuminati World Management Team, who serve as Fallen Angelic puppets, are being "played on" and manipulated by fear of personal survival and a desire for acquisition of power to prevent pain and create personal pleasure.

These are the same motivations behind the actions of the "spiritual" peoples of traditional New Age affiliation, who think worshiping an ancient book, or surrendering personal power to an external "God,"
ET," "Angel" or "Channel" is the ultimate expression of spiritual development and will "make everything all right."

Fear, the "Pleasure-Pain Principle" and Disinformation are the common control elements by which the Illuminati and Humans become easily misled into surrendering their power to something outside of themselves.

One this "outside source" has your power, compliance with the approval of that source becomes, implicitly, the only way to feel empowered.

(Voyagers II – Page 400)

Steven · 10-30-2009, 12:55 AM

All realities are created from the state of the consciousness, globally and individually. If you believe these non-sens "expert", who confused magnetic shift and physical shift, looking in the past as if we were locked into a non evolutive circle, you might get what you believe in.

What matters are not the facts, but the perception of the reality, this is what shapes the future.

If your consciousness and the consciousness of your surrounding is made of fear, end of the world scenario and confusion, the Universal Laws will draw you a reality according to what you throw out into the consciousness realm.

Our focus is what might change the course of destiny, it all depends on us.

Stare into darkness and you will bring back something from there with you.

Stare into the heavens and you will surround yourself with a consciousness that will draw a reality above your dreams.

It all depend on the state of your consciousness, where do you feed it?

Namaste, Steven

bushycat · 10-30-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Barcarolle

Excellent point Bushy, we cannot hide from the dark or negative forces as this in itself is expressing fear.

My main issue with the so called new age movement is that ONLY being in love and light is creating a dangerous duality where you begin to deny the existance of the dark and negative forces and thus increasing or manifesting their powers further.

Understanding the roll of the dark side/negative side is of upmost importance as you will have greater respect and knowledge of its roll in this 3D reality we live in. this will also give us greater understanding of how by radiating love and light vibration and allow us to fully appreciate the power it has in this world we live in.

Sure we should always be radiating love and light but at the same time be in balance of knowing/respecting the dark side, but by rejecting these negative forces puts you in a state of denial and a sitting duck to these forces as you have created love and light vibration without any solid foundation.

So if you believe you are in a highest state of love and light and find yourself unable to be around someone who is negative and dark then something is not right, its my belief you are truely powerfull when these forces do not make you feel in fear or uneasy. Your state of love and light will always be above any form of dark and negative forces and by standing in the face of these forces and remaining in this state means you have truely empowered both good and dark forces.

Just my thoughts

Namaste

Yes,Barcarolle, I agree. But as 14Chakras said,"When you resist...You'll be playing the game based on the illusions of the game and create a reality that is a struggle." This evil and dark we're talking about is not real in light of it being an illusion in this play. The dangers in this field seem real, but there is not evil in Source. Love is all. But we've got this free will zone here and can attach to whatever aspects suit our own reality.It's all part of creating our world.
Just my thoughts.

Love Always,
Bushycat

Steven · 10-30-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Barcarolle

Excellent point Bushy, we cannot hide from the dark or negative forces as this in itself is expressing fear.

My main issue with the so called new age movement is that ONLY being in love and light is creating a dangerous duality where you begin to deny the existance of the dark and negative forces and thus increasing or manifesting their powers further.

Understanding the roll of the dark side/negative side is of upmost importance as you will have greater respect and knowledge of its roll in this 3D reality we live in. this will also give us greater understanding of how by radiating love and light vibration and allow us to fully appreciate the power it has in this world we live in.

Sure we should always be radiating love and light but at the same time be in balance of knowing/respecting the dark side, but by rejecting these negative forces puts you in a state of denial and a sitting duck to these forces as you have created love and light vibration without any solid foundation.

So if you believe you are in a highest state of love and light and find yourself unable to be around someone who is negative and dark then something is not right, its my belief you are truely powerfull when these forces do not make you feel in fear or uneasy. Your state of love and light will always be above any form of dark and negative forces and by standing in the face of these forces and remaining in this state means you have truely empowered both good and dark forces.

Just my thoughts

Namaste

Indeed, if you keep your focus and consciousness into "Love and light" as you call it, the darkness will not only go away, you are actually going away from it by elevating your inner frequencies, in other words, you are phasing out from a realm of oppression into a realm of freedom. You transform the very space surrounding you. Prayers do not only cast away evilness, but also produce a heavenly space of high creative energy flowing from the heart of creation where evilness does not exist.

The strength of your focus (thought/faith in the process) is the magnitude of the miracle (transformation). The intention (emotive charge) is the frequency at which this manifestation is vibrating, thus determine in what realm this manifestation will exist.

Namaste, Steven

14 Chakras · 10-30-2009, 01:26 AM

The Way is the way of balance.

We all have different talents and different perspectives.

We're not all capable of looking at the darkness and still being able to maintain a sane and reasonable outlook. But MORE IMPORTANTLY, we're not all meant to do that either. We each have something different to offer, another piece of the puzzle.

I do not believe Jesus was saying "ignore evil and pretend it does not exist", simply, don't resist it.

While at the same time: Shine your light on it.

Meaning, it is ideal to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

Know what the dark forces are doing, know what they have planned, expose them, shine the light on the darkness. But do so with no attachments. Let the infinite work through you and all will be well. Nothing outside of you is responsible for your own state of consciousness, only you are.

So don't give your power away by letting outer events and negative things draw you downward.

If you can maintain a high vibration, a truthful outlook and resist no evil while being wise as serpents and knowing about the darkness, then do so and shine your light brightly on it. This will help others see through the deceptions and come up higher into the truth that will set them free.

However, the great majority who get into the conspiracy stuff too much fall into the trap of fear, anger, lower emotions and they do not connect to the light, they fall into the darkness. How many of them present real solutions? Not too many. The light is reality, the darkness is temporary illusion.

Balance the father aspect with the mother aspect of the divine within you and you are free.

Balance the 'light with the darkness' - be half good and evil and you are where you are today.. stuck in the matrix, and to one degree or another, stuck in victim consciousness as we all are until we take up our rightful roles as co-creators with the infinite.

"The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!"

Steven · 10-30-2009, 01:44 AM

When one is aware of how consciousness shapes reality by the Universal Laws, the rest is about choice. You choose where you feed your soul. You know what is involved in, you know the effect and repercussion around, above and below.

That is freewill, that is self responsibility. As long as one remains unconscious how evolution by consciousness proceed, there is no real freedom, there is no real self responsibility. There is only one way to get on your feet, it is by awakening to this process.

There are many people here on Avalon who works hard to bring the beauty of our world to our attention. They understood what the people need the most at this pivotal moment in the human evolution.

Namaste, Steven

bushycat · 10-30-2009, 01:52 AM

You choose where you feed your soul. .

That is freewill, that is self responsibility.

Yes, well said,Steven. And we choose what we allow to feed on our souls.
These negative forces seem to be ravenous!

Love and All,
BC

14 Chakras · 10-30-2009, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven

There are many people here on Avalon who works hard to bring the beauty of our world to our attention.

And these people are hugely appreciated

In addition there is lots of great information, including interviews from the namesakes, that may or may not shed light on the big picture situation. This is also MASSIVELY helpful.

In fact, I believe there is cosmic law that the dark forces must give hints about what they are planning and doing and if enough people figure it out (through being conscious and aware and connected to their own still small voice inside), then they literally can't pull them off.

It is literally saving the world by exposing the dark forces.

To pretend they don't exist will not get you out of this schoolroom.

Same goes with pretending darkness in our selves doesn't exist. Whatever you are unconscious about will attract to you just as much as whatever you are conscious about.

So shine the light on the darkness wherever it is, and we're all in for a much better experience!

Barcarolle · 10-30-2009, 01:49 AM

Steven - again you miss my whole point

Artificial application of love and light has no foundation, you mentioned this:

Stare into darkness and you will bring back something from there with you.
Stare into the heavens and you will surround yourself with a consciousness that will draw a reality above your dreams.
It all depend on the state of your consciousness, where do you feed it?

My point is you can only reach a high state of consciousness with only true knowledge and understanding of the whole picture and you cannot achieve any foundation by denying any aspects of both sides. Everything serves a purpose, because you choose not to entertain certain forces is completely different to hiding from them.

We need to be in observer mode, and how you link knowledge and respecting forces with staring staggers me, that language in itself shows fear.

We OBSERVE and learn, then discern and be empowered not stare, maybe another choice of words is needed Steven, but that comment exactly expressed my point of the new age movement. However you wish to focus and intend your energy's without any foundation you are easy pickings for these forces.

Eleni - I have completed all aspects of the Anna Hayes bio program and its a fantastic .... However the most important part of her message is the role of the metatron.
I am a great fan of Anna Hayes but she mentions nothing bad will happen till 2012 as she claims the star gates or portals open 2012-2017, she does not look at the illuminati agenda from the inside but only as an observer. she does not know the current plans of the illuminati therefore her information on the future is misleading,we as a population will not be given a chance to reach these portal openings unless we completely change this reality.

Bushy - this isn't a game i know it may appear to some that this is nothing to worry about and its all fun, the "evil" or dark forces represents our shadow self and its roll is vitally important to understand, to respect and learn from. So if you feel these negative forces don't exist and they are an illusion then you are simply denying this reality and creating a fragile bubble for any one to pop at anytime.

Strength is in true knowledge, solid foundations and knowing your true self not by existing in an artificial new age world owned by the dark forces using your energy without you even knowing.

Namaste

10-28-2009, 10:22 PM	#3
Angel in Disguise Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 364	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] I choose to believe that humanity won't end... The awakened ones will be safe, the sleeping ones will come to us for guidance when the **** hits the fan... And THAT is when the world will change because that is when all us crazies won't seem so crazy anymore... Oh.. and PS... If that doesn't happen, not to worry, I don't fear the reaper. I've actually asked him to stop by a few times, he never shows up!... Last edited by Angel in Disguise; 10-28-2009 at 10:37 PM.

10-28-2009, 10:40 PM	#4
pyrangello Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 412	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] Ditto .....,Angel in Disguise

10-28-2009, 10:50 PM	#5
Initiate Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 391	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] I believe we have two choices: 1) We can accept death and be reborn in the next dimension 2) We can walk the narrow pathway to the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. Fear nothing and make the right choices based on our inner voice. This can be every step we take every thought we invoke. If we can start being one with all creation then creation will take us through this process. There could be all hell breaking out around us but each step would be guided to bring us no harm. This has been proven to me time and time again: I go on business trips out of town often and end up going for a day or two via plane. Some how I manage to fill every single second of the trip. When it's time to leave and come home. I don't think about it I just finish doing what I am there for. Say time to go. Navigate through traffic etc. and end up checking in a minute before closing going through security and board the plane on time. Every time!. The only time I missed the plane was years ago and It was when I feared I would be late. since then I have never feared and everything just falls into place. I also chucked away my wrist watch and refuse to wear it. It's like a smooth steady pace one foot after the other as I walk into the terminal and get to board the plane. This is how I see we can make the transition. If we just trust what is happening. we will get our body upgrades as we go through the nexus. One foot after the other. Just trust in the process. Last edited by Initiate; 10-28-2009 at 10:56 PM.

10-28-2009, 11:16 PM	#6
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] For me personally, I need to find ME, find who I am , what I want, where I want to be, what I want to do next and what I can do with it. Yes thats a lot of I`s, but I does come before U. There is no ego with me. Seems we all need to find ourselves. We all seem lost in some respects. Me included. Ammit

10-28-2009, 11:24 PM	#7
Angel in Disguise Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 364	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] Ammit... Love the new avatar, very hot ... Personally, I feel I know who I am, I don't need to search for it, I don't need someone to tell me... I know it... I Am Me period!... I'm just lost in a world of people who don't know is all

10-28-2009, 11:40 PM	#9
Angel in Disguise Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 364	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] Ammit... Have you seen Dolores Cannon's Moving into A New Earth?... or read 'The Convoluted Universe'... Look into her... She is great at explaining exactly who we are... what we are etc... Highly recommended PS... I don't mean 'exactly' as we all choose who we want to be... but I'll go with her version as it resonates with me like no other... As she spoke I knew it was my truth as she states things I've been saying for years not knowing where that knowledge came from... It just came from within Last edited by Angel in Disguise; 10-28-2009 at 11:45 PM.

10-29-2009, 02:18 AM	#10
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] Based on time travelers who have gone to the future I do not accept that humankind is coming to an end. Andrew Basiago was told he would live until he is 99. He is now 47. He also went to the year 2047 and things looked pretty good. So the shift will see many transitioning and others will stay behind. As for myself, no cave, no bunker, no ET rescue.. my fate is in the hands of God and I'm certain God will choose what the next step will be as it has and is my intention to be of service wherever that may take me. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

10-29-2009, 02:23 AM	#11
SWIFT Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 163	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] I tend to agree with you Carol. We are controlers of our own fate to some extent and if the powers at be decide your numbers up well lets hope its not a long affair. Andy was one of Mels Veritas Show best shows this year so far and looking forward to more. Peace SWIFTY

10-29-2009, 02:27 AM	#12
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] I'd like to believe that the timeline Andy visited is one for our future and it's possible he is speaking of 4th density positive. From Noel Huntley: Let us consider the duality, evil/receivers of evil. There is no single pole, evil, on its own. It can only be created with an opposite such as receivers of evil (victims). From a higher non-spacetime perspective there is no evil because it is already 'cancelled' from this higher viewpoint---this mechanism of dualities protects the whole. From the higher perspective both sides are perceived simultaneously---each side, perpetrator/victim requires the other for balance. This may be hard to believe but again it is physics and not so different from phase-conjugation of energy and time, etc. in quantum mechanics. External balance will be sought, but internal balance and unity of the two poles, present in both parties, must be achieved to remove the evil (and also the victim role). Remember, the two poles, if they come together, disappear and are replaced by higher-dimensional unity. (In particle physics the particle and antiparticle when they come together form a unity no longer detectable in 3D.) This doesn't necessarily mean evil and receivers come together to form unity---though they could mindwise---but that this duality (evil/receivers) is an external reflection of the same duality within the individual's internal world of consciousness (mind, spirit, etc.). When the internal condition is balanced, the external negative behaviour disappears---is no longer part of the person's reality.

10-29-2009, 02:58 AM	#13
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] m1* I wanted to know if you had seen Geryl's interview because of the catastrophic nature of your many vivid dreams and I made the connection to his interview. I also forgot to place a checkmark on Geryl in the whistleblower poll & wish I hadn't because his message was quite convincing, connecting dots. And I also share your view which you so eloquently wrote in the initial post of this thread. Not that I wish for the 'end' to happen, but accept that it most likely will. We all are going to take our last breath and considering that it is always right Now, whenever it happens it will be in that Now. I get it perfectly. I used to have a vivid, recurring dream as a child, of tsunamis... that's about 45 yrs ago.... after watching that interview the words came out my mouth "how would I have had any reference for tsunamis when there were no movies or TV shows then depicting any?"... hmmmm I said to myself... good question! Thanks

10-29-2009, 10:54 PM	#15
bushycat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 442	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] Jesus was right, Chakras. To resist evil is swimming upstream. Love Always, Bushycat

10-30-2009, 12:16 AM	#16
Barcarolle Retired Avalon Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 73	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] Excellent point Bushy, we cannot hide from the dark or negative forces as this in itself is expressing fear. My main issue with the so called new age movement is that ONLY being in love and light is creating a dangerous duality where you begin to deny the existance of the dark and negative forces and thus increasing or manifesting their powers further. Understanding the roll of the dark side/negative side is of upmost importance as you will have greater respect and knowledge of its roll in this 3D reality we live in. this will also give us greater understanding of how by radiating love and light vibration and allow us to fully appreciate the power it has in this world we live in. Sure we should always be radiating love and light but at the same time be in balance of knowing/respecting the dark side, but by rejecting these negative forces puts you in a state of denial and a sitting duck to these forces as you have created love and light vibration without any solid foundation. So if you believe you are in a highest state of love and light and find yourself unable to be around someone who is negative and dark then something is not right, its my belief you are truely powerfull when these forces do not make you feel in fear or uneasy. Your state of love and light will always be above any form of dark and negative forces and by standing in the face of these forces and remaining in this state means you have truely empowered both good and dark forces. Just my thoughts Namaste

10-30-2009, 12:43 AM	#17
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] That's what Hayes says; The Anunnaki-dominated New Age "pseudo-Ascension" spiritual movement (most of it inspired by the "Templar Melchizedek" false ascension teachings of Anunnaki's Thoth, pre-Emerald Covenant Enoch, "Archangel Michael & Friends," "Jehovah," "Maitreya," "Lord Melchizedek and spiritual hierarchy", the Urantia etc...) inherently promotes a fear-based paradigm of "Light, Love and Pretend Away the Darkness (everything is all right)" dogma. The Illuminati races within the infrastructure of the covertly metaphysically motivated Illuminati World Management Team, who serve as Fallen Angelic puppets, are being "played on" and manipulated by fear of personal survival and a desire for acquisition of power to prevent pain and create personal pleasure. These are the same motivations behind the actions of the "spiritual" peoples of traditional New Age affiliation, who think worshiping an ancient book, or surrendering personal power to an external "God," ET," "Angel" or "Channel" is the ultimate expression of spiritual development and will "make everything all right." Fear, the "Pleasure-Pain Principle" and Disinformation are the common control elements by which the Illuminati and Humans become easily misled into surrendering their power to something outside of themselves. One this "outside source" has your power, compliance with the approval of that source becomes, implicitly, the only way to feel empowered. (Voyagers II – Page 400)

10-30-2009, 12:55 AM	#18
Steven Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Temiscouata Posts: 873	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] All realities are created from the state of the consciousness, globally and individually. If you believe these non-sens "expert", who confused magnetic shift and physical shift, looking in the past as if we were locked into a non evolutive circle, you might get what you believe in. What matters are not the facts, but the perception of the reality, this is what shapes the future. If your consciousness and the consciousness of your surrounding is made of fear, end of the world scenario and confusion, the Universal Laws will draw you a reality according to what you throw out into the consciousness realm. Our focus is what might change the course of destiny, it all depends on us. Stare into darkness and you will bring back something from there with you. Stare into the heavens and you will surround yourself with a consciousness that will draw a reality above your dreams. It all depend on the state of your consciousness, where do you feed it? Namaste, Steven

10-30-2009, 01:26 AM	#21
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] The Way is the way of balance. We all have different talents and different perspectives. We're not all capable of looking at the darkness and still being able to maintain a sane and reasonable outlook. But MORE IMPORTANTLY, we're not all meant to do that either. We each have something different to offer, another piece of the puzzle. I do not believe Jesus was saying "ignore evil and pretend it does not exist", simply, don't resist it. While at the same time: Shine your light on it. Meaning, it is ideal to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. Know what the dark forces are doing, know what they have planned, expose them, shine the light on the darkness. But do so with no attachments. Let the infinite work through you and all will be well. Nothing outside of you is responsible for your own state of consciousness, only you are. So don't give your power away by letting outer events and negative things draw you downward. If you can maintain a high vibration, a truthful outlook and resist no evil while being wise as serpents and knowing about the darkness, then do so and shine your light brightly on it. This will help others see through the deceptions and come up higher into the truth that will set them free. However, the great majority who get into the conspiracy stuff too much fall into the trap of fear, anger, lower emotions and they do not connect to the light, they fall into the darkness. How many of them present real solutions? Not too many. The light is reality, the darkness is temporary illusion. Balance the father aspect with the mother aspect of the divine within you and you are free. Balance the 'light with the darkness' - be half good and evil and you are where you are today.. stuck in the matrix, and to one degree or another, stuck in victim consciousness as we all are until we take up our rightful roles as co-creators with the infinite. "The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!" Last edited by 14 Chakras; 10-30-2009 at 02:30 AM.

10-30-2009, 01:44 AM	#22
Steven Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Temiscouata Posts: 873	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] When one is aware of how consciousness shapes reality by the Universal Laws, the rest is about choice. You choose where you feed your soul. You know what is involved in, you know the effect and repercussion around, above and below. That is freewill, that is self responsibility. As long as one remains unconscious how evolution by consciousness proceed, there is no real freedom, there is no real self responsibility. There is only one way to get on your feet, it is by awakening to this process. There are many people here on Avalon who works hard to bring the beauty of our world to our attention. They understood what the people need the most at this pivotal moment in the human evolution. Namaste, Steven Last edited by Steven; 10-30-2009 at 01:48 AM.

10-30-2009, 01:52 AM	#23
bushycat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 442	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] You choose where you feed your soul. . That is freewill, that is self responsibility. Yes, well said,Steven. And we choose what we allow to feed on our souls. These negative forces seem to be ravenous! Love and All, BC

10-30-2009, 01:49 AM	#25
Barcarolle Retired Avalon Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 73	Re: Don't Be Afraid to Move On [Branch Topic] Steven - again you miss my whole point Artificial application of love and light has no foundation, you mentioned this: Stare into darkness and you will bring back something from there with you. Stare into the heavens and you will surround yourself with a consciousness that will draw a reality above your dreams. It all depend on the state of your consciousness, where do you feed it? My point is you can only reach a high state of consciousness with only true knowledge and understanding of the whole picture and you cannot achieve any foundation by denying any aspects of both sides. Everything serves a purpose, because you choose not to entertain certain forces is completely different to hiding from them. We need to be in observer mode, and how you link knowledge and respecting forces with staring staggers me, that language in itself shows fear. We OBSERVE and learn, then discern and be empowered not stare, maybe another choice of words is needed Steven, but that comment exactly expressed my point of the new age movement. However you wish to focus and intend your energy's without any foundation you are easy pickings for these forces. Eleni - I have completed all aspects of the Anna Hayes bio program and its a fantastic .... However the most important part of her message is the role of the metatron. I am a great fan of Anna Hayes but she mentions nothing bad will happen till 2012 as she claims the star gates or portals open 2012-2017, she does not look at the illuminati agenda from the inside but only as an observer. she does not know the current plans of the illuminati therefore her information on the future is misleading,we as a population will not be given a chance to reach these portal openings unless we completely change this reality. Bushy - this isn't a game i know it may appear to some that this is nothing to worry about and its all fun, the "evil" or dark forces represents our shadow self and its roll is vitally important to understand, to respect and learn from. So if you feel these negative forces don't exist and they are an illusion then you are simply denying this reality and creating a fragile bubble for any one to pop at anytime. Strength is in true knowledge, solid foundations and knowing your true self not by existing in an artificial new age world owned by the dark forces using your energy without you even knowing. Namaste Last edited by Barcarolle; 10-30-2009 at 02:02 AM.