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Thanks for the information viking while it does sound all good stuff again the age old common problem here is us.
We are always wishing for the good guys to come in and safe us from the bad guys. when and only when we understand that by calling these races in other than your own i should add here you are letting others do the work for you this has to be done by the individual we are creating the future ourselves by asking these others to take over for us. We have to learn and this has been going on for so many thousands of years now that WE ARE THE ONES TO MAKE THE CHANGE. When the time is here again we will have to realise this no more looking for outer help, the creator wishes all his creations to come back to the fold but no one will ever proceed if we continue with this mentality. This next time will be the last for many thousands of years i suggest those who wish to make that leap to a higher consciousness think within we can not help anyone or anything until we have helped ourselves, that's the answer to all. |
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I hear you ... So what you are saying is that we need to sort ourselves out before we invite our freinds?? Ok...If you had the choice, at what point would you invite our brothers and sisters then...? Don't forget 95% of the population are under total control of the PTW ... totally and utterly brainwashed to the extent that they don't realize they are robots...remember almost everything they have learned in their lives is a LIE!! How would you get them all out of the loop, so to speak? You need something really BIG to wake them up. Please note I am not trying to catch you out....I want contructive feedback as to how this can happen. viking Last edited by viking; 11-04-2009 at 02:45 PM. |
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Hello Viking. Your questions are essentials to be pondered.
I think we need something to wake us up, as the majority is inclined into a very massive inertia to avoid lurking above the surface. Might it be as a tremendous UFOs apparition in our skies? Maybe, but not with the saviours actions following the ''show''. I do not like this component in this idea. I still think the awakening is coming from the Universe itself. To this question, I relate to the pyramid of consciousness evolution the Mayans have brought to us. The last step of this evolution is about a global awakening on the Universal Laws of consciousness to the fact that we are co-creator of our realities because the way our consciousness works in conjunction with the Universal Laws of Creation. And this very last step will begin in 2011… We got to be patient a little more… Namaste, Steven |
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Hi Steven, you have this right, i too feel the creator will when the time is right make all this happen, those who are not ready will incarnate as before until they have learnt the ways of the universe, this window of opportunity is approaching fast now, many will not be ready but this is no bad thing things will be the same that's all. Now whether the control situation will stay the same i do not know, You see other planets can not simply come in and aid us we have to ask this is what has happened in the past.
The negative ones took over because they were asked too, this is very deep stuff it has taken me a long time to get my head around all this. Only another planets inhabitants may enter and help if the CREATOR wishes it and then it would be for the better of the humans whether that be a positive thing or a negative. We have been living in negativity for a long while we are about to turn this around this next ascension will lift us to 4th density this will be the time of love and light, peaceful times once again. I do not have all the answers far from it i am taking baby steps still. [QUOTE=Steven;[COLOR=white]I still think the awakening is coming from the Universe itself. To this question, I relate to the pyramid of consciousness evolution the Mayans have brought to us. The last step of this evolution is about a global awakening on the Universal Laws of consciousness to the fact that we are co-creator of our realities because the way our consciousness works in conjunction with the Universal Laws of Creation. And this very last step will begin in 2011… We got to be patient a little more. |
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tks Viking for posting this most thought provoking thread, & I am happy to see such interesting and diverse thoughts on the subject.
As for me, the whole thing is very confusing & I have more questions than answers. The first question that comes to mind, is this; why the mass depopulation program through designer virus's & also a false flag scenario. Why both? Then there is the GFL? My question here is why oh why are they waiting around in the skies, when humanity is been mass murdered & they have been talking about showing up for years already........their common buzz words have been "soon" followed by "immenent" & now its "secs".....all this kinda raises a red flag for me. Will they show up when the depopulation program is complete? If so, then obviously they are in cohoots with tptw here on earth. On the topic of "mass global awakening", we have been waiting/expecting this for years now & no awakening has happened on a global scale. In fact the people have become even more dumbed down.....take a look at the line ups for the vaccine. Thats just one example. But lets play "devils advocate here" lets say that sometime in the next year or two, the cosmic forces intensify and cause this mass awakening.....does that not also equate to "interference" by the cosmic energies? Why do we except this & not the help of our extraterrestrial brothers/sisters? I believe that the masses need some type of outside help, because they seem incapable now to do it on their own & time is running out. Then their is the "Creator", why does the he/she, divine intelligence not step in & protect its children, despite all the prayers, meditations that have and are going on? I know that I speak here from the mundane level, & the bigger picture is very complex & unfathomable, but its the mundane we are dealing with & experiencing here. The whole subject is problematic & really no one has the answer at this point, which makes it all the more frustrating. Just a lot of theories, speculation, & some ancient texts. |
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The only certainty that can be concluded on this subject and this thread is......... no one actually knows jack sh*t. (including myself
![]() As to the original post, ya its a wonderful message but keep wondering about the 'arresting' bit and the NESARA Law bit. Who is doing the arresting? And if anyone tells me I am under a new law (no matter where its from) I will be the first to point a rifle at the new lawmaker(s) head. Peace love and munbeans is all nice but as long as we keep believing in good v bad guys we wont make it out of kindergarden. We are ALL as good as any god and ALL as bad as any evil. I kinda suspect that Ashtar is really off playing with jesus, santa and the easter bunny. |
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Namaste,
I have big deal of doubt concerning this kind of messages. Of course, Viking is just passing them, since they are interesting stuff. I would like, of course, all of this to be true, not because we would be “saved”, but because that would be great to be in open touch with our star brothers and sisters. My greatest doubt is that it is very possibly these messages to be used as psychological preparation for what can be FALSE DISCLOSURE made with holographic or some other technology. The System is under great pressure for the disclosure issue, and it certainly has plans. This system is based upon a MANIPULATION, it is in its core, it is its essence. I truly wouldn’t believe a disclosure made by this System, since its MAIN PURPOSE will be exactly to keep the system still ruling, with the same people. Be careful friends. Love&Respect Last edited by Oliver; 11-04-2009 at 07:15 PM. |
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I posted my last message & then saw the new message posted by Viking.
Two observations from this latest one, is their back to "imminent" darn ![]() If I were to be granted a wish at this moment, it would be this, first, remove thptw, get them off this planet, set up a new government & then disclosure. |
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Jaqui said "this window of opportunity is approaching fast now, many will not be ready but this is no bad thing things will be the same that's all."
I suggest the way any and all of us make it is by helping our neighbors make it. There's no such thing as automatic ascension to a better world. Fuzzy warm feelings are nice, but the way we will make it into a New Earth, is by taking the focus off of our separate self and putting it onto how we can be of service to the All, to the whole. The infinite wants to see ALL of it's sons and daughters (that's humanity), make the leap into the abundant Life of a New Earth. What's required is that all of us, are willing to go out and help raise the consciousness, raise the awareness of our sleeping neighbors and help them connect to their own 'still small voice' within themselves. What's coming is the climax to the movie of duality and the birth of the movie of truth and Oneness, truth wins, but it wins because a critical mass of people here in embodiment choose to Be and choose to play their part in helping heal, fix, protect and raise up this planet. The Power, Wisdom and Love required to fix our planet lies within us. We face the test of whether we are willing to take back our power and Be, or whether we refuse to be and choose to remain the slave race. However, this is an individual question as much as it is a collective one. Regardless of what your neighbor chooses it will not affect whether we as individuals pass this grade, the choice is ours and ours alone. However, our own passing is very much affected by whether we try and help our neighbors out or not. If not, we're the ones who are going to need help to make it through. The real question for each one of us is: To Be or not to be. Last edited by 14 Chakras; 11-04-2009 at 07:14 PM. |
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And this decloaking scenario...Isn't that the equivalent of jumping out and yelling BOOO!!
Its not like we aren't like a bunch of scared cattle most days. How many messages from sources that most of us trust (Wilcock...Collier..Hoagland) talk about the false flag scenario? The crop circle talking about the false friends and actually picturing some of them. I guarantee after the false flag and after I clean my pants out...I'd have to revert back to my de-programming and say..."NOPE ain't getting on that ship MOM...the next one will be real and be along in a bit" The awake folks would even be fooled.....No offense Viking but if your scenario played out...you'd stand in line for a "tour" of the mother ship... Chip implantation to the right......DNA testing to the left....Please hold questions till the end of the tour..... Man talk about the FALSE PROPHET FLAG scenario. Wave to me...I'll be the one still standing at the bus stop..... ![]() |
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Truely. We come in peace
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"We cannot make the Galactic presence known on a worldwide scale until everyone is safe from any threat of danger, including world leaders, news media, and military officials"
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I have often wondered why there are always 2 or 3 'flaws' in these GF (no, not Gen Food...) messages. A couple of sentences that set alarmbells off, about the true intensions of these self proclaimed Space Brothers.
But perhaps these 'flaws' (Red Flags) are being made purposely, to set off the discussions & debats on www forums, if &/or why we should trust any alien force that decloaks forcefully on earth. So, instead of sweet talk & GF propaganda, these messages are a 'TRUST NO ONE!' warning. Just a thought. |
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At the end of the day I guess it is just a case of letting your intuition be your guide. Listen to your Higher Self.
If they are truly benevolent:
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Truth...and Truism...have always been a tangled mess..sadly.
Knowledge is useful to determine truth...but i need only my heart for truisms... these questions are confusing...i find no easy answer..and perhaps that is the point. |
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Steven you mentioned in your latest post that the last step in consciousness evolution on a global scale wont happen till 2011 is an interesting concept and very real, the fact is most of us will not be round to see 2011 ... And by waiting for 2011 is in fact creating a victim consciousness in it self. The only way to experience this journey we have before us is to be pro active and alert. We should not wait for anything.
The controlling forces on this planet know the universal energy's are upgrading all of us, these energy's are upgrading our entire solar system and will continue to do so. However we must use the Law of allowance to accept this upgrade, no point sitting on your hands ........... We represent a danger to these negative forces as we now have a portal of ascension looming, They do not want us to make this transition and will pull out all the tricks in the book to keep us 3D conscious and fear minded. Make no mistake this is a spiritual war on us all, those of us willing to take on this journey must accept the responsibilities. Namaste |
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Jaqui said "this window of opportunity is approaching fast now, many will not be ready but this is no bad thing "
I believe this window is has been open for some time and is closing very quickly, the window represents our freedoms and choice. Slowly but stealthily they are cleverly removed from us, and as time passes and it will get more difficult to reach this open window. If you think life will be the same as its is now in 12 months then you have missed the boat. The longer you wait the harder it will be The time is now Namaste |
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If you are not familiar with this pyramid of evolution, you can find more here: http://www.calleman.com/content/pyra...sciousness.htm Now, when I said to be patient and wait, I was referring to be patient to let the Universe process our own evolution by itself, not with an alien intervention. It has been this way since 16 billions years, why would it be different this time and we would need outside help to evolve? Being patient and wait is not victim consciousness in this context, it is trusting the process, like the Law of Allowance is all about. It is not a question of will or action, even the ones not aware of what is happening will evolve like the rest. It is simply a question of openness to the change. In this regards, children have far more to teach than to learn... Are you ready for a New Paradigm is the real question... Here is a post a made last year about it: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3577 Namaste, Steven Last edited by Steven; 11-04-2009 at 11:28 PM. |
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If you are not familiar with this pyramid of evolution very familiar actually actually this planet is completely controlled by all forms of pyramidal forces and structure but we are going to have to do this ourselves as you mentioned it be different this time and we would need outside help to evolve? agreed - we have to man up, no one going to hold our hands or show us the light, we have to radiate our own path. It is simply a question of openness to the change. In this regards, children have far more to teach than to learn 100% correct, not being open is remaining in EGO mind or mind controlled. Yes the children of today are going to lead us very shortly in greater ways than we currently comprehend. [I]Are you ready for a New Paradigm is the real question[/I]... unfortunately most will not be able to make the transition, i will embrace the new paradigm but it wont be all peaches and cream through this journey Being ready is with complete understanding, full knowledge and complete expectation that the negative forces will prevent, lie, deceive, manipulate, fabricate everything and everyone from this natural evolutionary process. The journey is what we all are here to experience, the trick is to allow yourself to be here while its in motion. ![]() Namaste my friend Last edited by Barcarolle; 11-04-2009 at 11:56 PM. |
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I suggest there is no automatic ascension to a better earth.
My understandings: There is ONE key that will get us there: Are we more focused on our separate self or are we more focused on helping raise up the All? This is the pass / fail test for passing the grade and moving into a new earth. I suggest we're aiming for a 95% pass rate and this is very doable and within reach. However, it will take leaders to show the Way. The leaders will be those who choose to surrender the illusion of who they are based on the illusions of the matrix, they will choose to surrender their human ego in exchange for the reality of who they are in Oneness with the infinite and all life. Christ beings will walk this planet. They will be 100% focused on raising up the all, and therefore, All will be given unto them. You yourself have the potential to awaken to the divine Power, Wisdom and Love that lies within you right now, and walk the planet below as you are above, as the Living Christ, but you have to choose to Be in order to be. You must give all you have to the infinite within you in order for the infinite within you to give you back all that it has. Nothing is automatic in schoolroom earth, free will is the key determinant of life. Something else to consider is that earth did not naturally evolve downward to the state that it is in. It fell here. People have to surrender the illusions they have gathered here over the journey in this murky place to come up higher. That's just the way it is. It's not about guilt, but it is about doing the work to come up higher. Ego, which is truly unconsciousness is what blocks the Way. |
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Simple is sometimes best... I suppose we would need to take it one step at a time ... First and foremost if they did Decloak themsleves it would open a huge can of worms ... And I think as long as all the above are taken into consideration our mass consciousness would do the rest. I want you all to understand I am not looking for any saviours as many think along the same lines as myself. All I want is what has has been denied of us for thousands of years....... THE TRUTH. And as Mr Icke constantly states 'THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE'. viking |
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"It is not in the stars to hold our DESTINY... but in ourselves."
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