"Good ETs" // "Bad ETs" ?

[Theresa]

yes, they are luciferian. Lucifer, in biblical definition, was the "highest, brightest" angel in heaven, who fell when he became ego based and wanted to overtake GOD. GOD banished him to the "garden of Eden" and gave him rulership over the Earth (materialism, ego based consciousness).

A Course in Miracles says that "satan" is really a crystalization of our own ego consciousness that believes that it is separate from GOD (mistaken perception). In its great fear and guilt for believing it separated from GOD (lucifer "falling" to Earth, "kicked out of heaven"), it projects its own self hatred onto the "universe" and then reacts to it, ad nauseum.

So, any individuals who "worship satan/lucifer" are essentially glorifying the ego, which in reality doesn't actually exist, because we never actually separated from GOD. But just like a person sleeping and having a nightmare, it's not real, but it FEELS real.

Satanic worship is ritualized glorification of the ego-separation consciousness, but we "worship" satan, or choose luciferian viewpoints whenever we project our own self judgment outward, or judge ourselves, or hurt ourselves, or choose addiction (false light) over true light, etc...

Just my two cents...

[Norval]

"Good ETs" // "Bad ETs" ?

The angels and fallen angels.

The bible is clear to those that actually read it on this issue. It is the only book that puts it ALL together. Who why they, and who why us.

All of those that "rule" our world, be they the bilderburgers, the illuminate, "religionists", the richest families, and governments, take their orders from "non humans".

You may find some answers in this thread,
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=2094

[mudhog92]

par tof my understanding of it also (from Illuminati perspective) is that if God was all loving and wanted us to be in contact wth our higher self, he would have wanted us to eat that dang apple from the tree of knowledge. Kinda makes sense a little. Lucifer, the serpent, wanted us to know all and told Eve to eat it, and of course Adam, loving the woman, did what every good man does, listened to his lady friend and took a bite too! Now, God aka the church, punishes man for doing this. Illuminati see Lucifer as the good guy. He promoted self awareness that the church tried to use to keep man as an ignorant follower. I don't agree with the Illuminati, but I can say I understand that thought process.

[Richard T]

In the biblical sense, kowledge, is the world of memories and memories are the borders of the soul.

To know, really, cannot be based on the memory of experience.

Infusion in an animal body, contrarily to aliens who use a chemically stabilized body, effectively magnetized the spirit to force a descent ever deeper within dense matter using the senses. This brought about the severance of the universal link between the mind and its source and man found himself in the ignorance of his reality that got traded for the need to accumulate memory, which is a soul function and not a spirit reality.

This severance is responsible for death, death not being a normal condition of life. There is no such thing as death in life. Death results from the isolation of the soul from its contact with its reality when the body lacks the necessary energy to retain it and it is therefore forced into a plane of memorial energy until it is forced to come back to re-establish its connection.

Death is under laws that are opposed to those of life. And the hierarchies that are subservient to the principles behind those laws, what has been referred to as Luciferian consciousness, do not wish for the human mind to escape the memorial form of his energy.

Life and death are two energies of different orders.

Those hierarchies that answer to Luciferian science are beyond what we understand as being good or evil. The science of good and evil is a polarized consequence within human psychology of the movement of the energies in evolution in the material sphere.

Those hierarchies are extra-terrestrial in origin, as all consciousness is ultimately speaking, and are perceived as gods, demons or extra-terrestrial entities, depending on the relative experience of the soul that contemplates them, making them spiritual or mental in nature when they are incarnated.

Most of them are material, although they do not evolve within an experimental state but rather process the science of energy as it emanates from their own realities.

Yet, the invisible realms are far wider in scope than the material realm and the far advanced races are not of a material nature. Far advanced is not adequate a term but I use it only for comparative purposes.

The material realm results from the division of a great power from a region of universal energy that otherwise was contemplative in its nature, creating time and making evolution possible.

The ultimate reality of man lies in this contemplative region that is at an extreme distance from here and now but that is effectively separated from the mind as anti-matter and matter must be separated.

The science of good and evil forced upon man a psychological impression of himself that makes objectivity impossible, being caught in a comparative scale that requires memories and their emotionally charged values to be the yard stick by which the individual seeks to evaluate where he psychically is in the universe, while associating his psychism to his materiality, being limited in his awaken perceptions to his senses.

Rather than thinking in terms of good ETs and bad ETs, it might be advantageous to rather consider pro-human ETs and anti-human ETs.

But in either case, nothing will be given freely.

[Teresa]

Wow, I am so excitedly amazed... I had to be away... and now, upon returning, I see all these great replys !

Thank you, so much, 'everyone' -- You all have brilliant answers... and i will definitely be re-reading them,
as I'm helping out my Kindergartener at the moment... and then it's
go, go, go again.... (Won't bore you with my busy days... "This too shall pass"..... is what my mom always says...) ; )

Thanks again... and 'could' this be, perhaps, a "visit" here from philosopher, Richard Tarnas.... or is it my wishful thinking ?... and you're just another 'wonder Richard T' !

okay.... gotta go lil' Miss Taurus is literally playing 'trumpet music' on an old cell phone (toy).... {how funny... it's 'when the saints come.... in}

[Alex]

Rather than thinking in terms of good ETs and bad ETs, it might be advantageous to rather consider pro-human ETs and anti-human ETs.

Gawd your such a human, always thinking of your own race!

Originally Posted by Theresa

yes, they are luciferian. Lucifer, in biblical definition, was the "highest, brightest" angel in heaven, who fell when he became ego based and wanted to overtake GOD. GOD banished him to the "garden of Eden" and gave him rulership over the Earth (materialism, ego based consciousness).

A Course in Miracles says that "satan" is really a crystalization of our own ego consciousness that believes that it is separate from GOD (mistaken perception). In its great fear and guilt for believing it separated from GOD (lucifer "falling" to Earth, "kicked out of heaven"), it projects its own self hatred onto the "universe" and then reacts to it, ad nauseum.

So, any individuals who "worship satan/lucifer" are essentially glorifying the ego, which in reality doesn't actually exist, because we never actually separated from GOD. But just like a person sleeping and having a nightmare, it's not real, but it FEELS real.

Satanic worship is ritualized glorification of the ego-separation consciousness, but we "worship" satan, or choose luciferian viewpoints whenever we project our own self judgment outward, or judge ourselves, or hurt ourselves, or choose addiction (false light) over true light, etc...

Just my two cents...

Right on... another ACIMer. I agree with you about the ego part, it seems to be very reinforced within these people. But I also know that dark entities/forces exist. There is a heirarchy in the illuminati. And where the physical illuminati ends, the entity realm begins.

And as for the karma and whatnot to the illuminati it doesnt matter. Think of the illuminati as a cult... they have a dogma(set rules to be followed) that if not followed results in death. They are brainwashed from the time of birth in these rules and principles. They ignore spirit... however many illuminati have awakened and do not want to follow their dogma anymore. The illuminati seem to be a mixed bag right now.