Unknown virus kills in the west of Ukraine

[burgundia]

And listen now to this!!!

the flu is subsiding now, but..................they are expecting the second and third wave, the second in the middle of the winter:January-February and the third one later....

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by burgundia

And listen now to this!!!

the flu is subsiding now, but..................they are expecting the second and third wave, the second in the middle of the winter:January-February and the third one later....

I'm thinking that the vaccine together with the spread of the swine flu virus is the first stage of the "big agenda" depopulation. People's immune system will become weaker from exposure to the flu & the vaccine, making them even more vulnerable to the next onslaught which they probably already have released in the Ukraine. So yes, I'm still thinking this will start showing in Dec.

[micjer]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

I'm thinking that the vaccine together with the spread of the swine flu virus is the first stage of the "big agenda" depopulation. People's immune system will become weaker from exposure to the flu & the vaccine, making them even more vulnerable to the next onslaught which they probably already have released in the Ukraine. So yes, I'm still thinking this will start showing in Dec.

I think that this is the only thing that makes sense. I don't like it but it makes sense.

Ok if we assume that this was a testing area, did they start it by chemtrails or was it introduced into ventilation systems in hospitals and public areas.

[burgundia]

a few years ago i had a very strange "illness"....No sore throat, no headaches, no muscle pains, but.....a general feeling of not-well-being and lowered body temperature, between 35-36 degrees Celsius ( normal is 36.6C). it passed after a few days. A few days ago my father had the same symptoms....When your temperature drops it means that your system is weakened....

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by micjer

I think that this is the only thing that makes sense. I don't like it but it makes sense.

Ok if we assume that this was a testing area, did they start it by chemtrails or was it introduced into ventilation systems in hospitals and public areas.

I'm thinking they released it via chemtrails....too risky to do it through ventilation systems & not enough of the population would be exposed. Chemtrails works & no one knows what in those trails. No one can stop them and ask questions.

We have not heard any more about the Aborigine tribe, where 30 of them died in the Brazilian forest......that story has completely dried up...hmm. Another testing ground for sure.

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by burgundia

And listen now to this!!!

the flu is subsiding now, but..................they are expecting the second and third wave, the second in the middle of the winter:January-February and the third one later....

Not looking forward to that, haven't had a cold for over a year and despite taking MMS colloidal silver Vit D3 and al sorts of other weird things I've had swan flu since last thursday

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Swanny

Not looking forward to that, haven't had a cold for over a year and despite taking MMS colloidal silver Vit D3 and al sorts of other weird things I've had swan flu since last thursday

Swan flu......this is something new...I hope i didn't cause that with all my swan photos....

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by burgundia

Swan flu......this is something new...I hope i didn't cause that with all my swan photos....

[Seashore]

Here is a link to another blog article:

http://europebusines.blogspot.com/20...has-begun.html

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Here is a link to another blog article:

http://europebusines.blogspot.com/20...has-begun.html

tks seashore for this article. It answered my question about closing airports....they have not done this.....so this virus/disease undoubtedly will spread. Better prepare & stock up our cupboards with food, medicines etc. We may have to quarantine ourselves.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

tks seashore for this article. It answered my question about closing airports....they have not done this.....so this virus/disease undoubtedly will spread. Better prepare & stock up our cupboards with food, medicines etc. We may have to quarantine ourselves.

You're welcome.

And I agree with you; we have to take matters into our own hands.

I hope more and more people will turn their TV off and leave it off. I worry about people who still get their info from TV...

[micjer]

Population Reduction: Globalist Endgame Begins


'On October 30th,”2009 editors of local papers in Kyiv, Ukraine received a flood of phone calls from citizens reporting low flying aircraft spraying an unknown aerosolized substance over L’viv, Ternopil and other cities. On October 27th”the Ukrainian media broke the story that on October 26th”in Ternopil an unknown flu had killed seven people , and that over the past few days about 6 thousand people had sought out medical attention in regards to flu like symptoms.

From this first report through to the 9th of November over 1 million people inside the Ukraine people have contracted some form of flu like illness. This is almost double the number of ‘confirmed’ H1N1 cases worldwide in all other countries. There have also been over 155 deaths reported due to influenza during this time. This outbreak is unprecedented yet it has received minimal coverage in the western media. It just seemed to get lost amidst all of the swine flu coverage, and written off as just more cases of H1N1 before any lab samples had been processed. In the Ukrainian and Russian media however the outbreak has been treated more seriously and has been referred to as ‘pneumonic plague’.


http://www.infowars.com/population-r...ndgame-begins/

There are reports now coming from Romania, India, Bulgaria, Belarus, Turkey, Norway that the rate on increase of flu is increasing rapidly. In Norway foe example 300,000 residents contacted the flu in a single week. Whatever disease has been released is moving across Europe fast. This bug has spread too widely to be a Ukrainian election scam. Readers should note that just before the outbreak in Ukraine, the government was running pneumonic plague drills. In early November, there were also pneumonic plague drills being run in Illinois. Connect the dots. Notable there have also been reports of heavy supply and personnel movement in and out of known D.U.M.B.s (Deep Underground Military Bases) very recently. According to an unconfirmed report the parking lots of these bases are full and haven’t been this full since just after 911. What is going on? Will this fast moving disease be released in America? Listen for low flying aircraft. Shut your windows at night. Stock up on colloidal silver, antibiotics and high quality vitamins. Please watch the skies

[Unified Serenity]

Remember Joseph Moshe? I just saw this on youtube... we already have seen much of the info, but I thought I'd share it.

Moshe

[Unified Serenity]

pandemic?

[AscendingStarseed]

Can anyone tell me the best way to ingest colloidal silver to protect against this Ukraine outbreak, I read that since it attacks the lungs so virulently that the throat sprqy, or mist was recommended....

and how much colloidal silver should we be taking?

Has anyone else ever heard of Immune Extra? It's make from pine cone bark extract and is actually derived from ancient Japanese medicine, research shows it cures many aggressive cancers and a whole host of diseases by actually repairing our broken down, dysfunctional immune systems.

Instinctively I couldn't help but make the connection to the symbolic nature between the shape of a pine cone compared to that of the "pine-al" gland. After listening to testimonials of people who had terminal cancer, as well as the doctor who formulated the supplement speak of it's ability to optimize your immune system I'll be adding this to my regiment this week.

http://www.immunextra.com

throat spray or?

[Fina]

http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/engd...c13nov09.shtml

Ukraine, WHO And The Geopolitics Of Swine Flu Panic By F. William Engdahl,

Posted on http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ \

"Latest reports of what is being called a deadly Swine Flu outbreak in Ukraine according to on sight reports appear to be a political concoction by a threatened government to avoid election defeat and possibly declare martial law. The details indicate how convenient the current WHO "Swine Flu" H1N1 "pandemic" scare is for regimes in trouble..."

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Fina

http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/engd...c13nov09.shtml

Ukraine, WHO And The Geopolitics Of Swine Flu Panic By F. William Engdahl,

Posted on http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ \

"Latest reports of what is being called a deadly Swine Flu outbreak in Ukraine according to on sight reports appear to be a political concoction by a threatened government to avoid election defeat and possibly declare martial law. The details indicate how convenient the current WHO "Swine Flu" H1N1 "pandemic" scare is for regimes in trouble..."

Fina,

Great find!

I haven't read the article yet, but I wanted to post this quote at the head of the article:

"[Editor's Note: Amazing. I no more than finish doing a radio show with Don Nicoloff on the evening of November 12, 2009 outing the role of pharmaceutical shill Dr Henry L. Niman in practically single-handedly hyping the Ukraine outbreak into the stratosphere and helping his pals in the pharmaceutical industry, the WHO, and the Ukraine Ministry of Health to grossly overstate the story and create an atmosphere of panic, than does William Engdahl come out with an article the very next day making the same case. Of even greater irony, I find this article posted at the top of Jeff Rense's web site IMMEDIATELY under the radio interviews and articles of Dr Henry Niman! If this isn't bizarre, I don't know what is. ...Ken Adachi "

I think that F. William Engdahl is a good source of information.

Also, I have been thinking about the fact that Rense has been showcasing Henry Niman for some time. And he still is, despite the fact that Niman holds a patent and stands to gain financially from any pandemic and he does not speak out about vaccinations, either. I want to know why Rense is still featuring Niman as a regular guest.

I see on Rense.com that Niman will be a guest today:

"MONDAY
November 16, 2009

Dr. Henry Niman PhD
WHO Hides Ukraine
Viral Sequences"

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Fina,

Great find!

I haven't read the article yet, but I wanted to post this quote at the head of the article...

Another quote from the article:

"WHO 'strongly recommends early treatment with the antiviral drugs, oseltamivir or zanamivir, for patients who meet treatment criteria, even in the absence of a positive laboratory test confirming H1N1 infection.' That means Tamiflu, the highly dangerous drug whose major shareholder includes former Pentagon head Don Rumsfeld. And it means GlaxoSmithKline, maker of the reportedly equally dangerous rival Relenza drug. The drugs produce precisely the symptoms of severe lung complications found in flu and in some cases have reportedly caused death."

[Fina]

Thanks Seashore

I find I am checking out & 'believing' fewer & fewer sites as time goes by.
Some do seem to be primarily fear-mongering & making people angry, shan't mention any names...

The only 2 I really trust now are;

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/

Just listening to Ken's interview with Don Nicoloff http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/kena...w13nov09.shtml


Interesting topics on various forums, for example; "What are you scared of?" Hmm, what's that all about - who wants to know??

Every click is monitored... they know how to 'push buttons'...

[burgundia]

They are saying that the Flu virus A/H1N1 has mutated ( in Ukraine). the lungs of two of the victims were completely black, autopsy revealed. however all the deaths in Ukraine are not caused by A/H1N1...

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by burgundia

They are saying that the Flu virus A/H1N1 has mutated ( in Ukraine). the lungs of two of the victims were completely black, autopsy revealed. however all the deaths in Ukraine are not caused by A/H1N1...

I've been thinking about the fact that it seems clear that Ukraine was sprayed right before reports of the deaths as you describe. I have received in my email a Special Emergency Report by Dr. Len Horowitz. He states in the report that "hemorrhagic pneumonia" is now spreading in Ukraine as a "co-infection" among vaccinated and non-vaccinated carriers of H1N1.

I think that both Engdahl's article and what Dr. Horowitz is saying are true.

Just because there's been hype about flu and fear-mongering out of the political situation in Ukraine doesn't mean we're out of the woods. We're not.

[micjer]

Finally! The Western Mainstream Media Reports On The Mystery Flu Plague In Ukraine As The Death Toll Reaches 299


http://thebirdflupandemic.com/archiv...ll-reaches-299

Some western mainstream media outlets are finally reporting on the mystery flu plague in Ukraine as the death toll there has now reached 299. In fact, one newspaper in the U.K. is even linking the outbreak in Ukraine to the 1918 Spanish flu that killed between 50 and 100 million people across the globe in the early portion of the last century. Reports from medical personnel on the ground in Ukraine continue to be very disturbing. In fact, one doctor is reporting that the virus is turning the lungs of patients "as black as charcoal" and that the situation there is "terrifying".

The truth is that all major mainstream media outlets should have been reporting on the mystery outbeak in Ukraine over a week ago. Incredibly disturbing reports have been coming out of Ukraine for quite some time now, and those reports have pretty much only been covered by a handful of alternative news sites such as this one.

But now fortunately a few outlets in the western mainstream media are picking up this story. For example, The Daily Mail ran a story on Sunday that featured this headline: "British scientists testing Ukrainian 'super flu' that has killed 189 people".

con't....

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by micjer

Finally! The Western Mainstream Media Reports On The Mystery Flu Plague In Ukraine As The Death Toll Reaches 299


http://thebirdflupandemic.com/archiv...ll-reaches-299

Some western mainstream media outlets are finally reporting on the mystery flu plague in Ukraine as the death toll there has now reached 299. In fact, one newspaper in the U.K. is even linking the outbreak in Ukraine to the 1918 Spanish flu that killed between 50 and 100 million people across the globe in the early portion of the last century. Reports from medical personnel on the ground in Ukraine continue to be very disturbing. In fact, one doctor is reporting that the virus is turning the lungs of patients "as black as charcoal" and that the situation there is "terrifying".

The truth is that all major mainstream media outlets should have been reporting on the mystery outbeak in Ukraine over a week ago. Incredibly disturbing reports have been coming out of Ukraine for quite some time now, and those reports have pretty much only been covered by a handful of alternative news sites such as this one.

But now fortunately a few outlets in the western mainstream media are picking up this story. For example, The Daily Mail ran a story on Sunday that featured this headline: "British scientists testing Ukrainian 'super flu' that has killed 189 people".

con't....

After listening to Dr. Niman on Jeff Rense Radio over a week ago, Dr. Niman at that time said that autopsies were done on 2 dead bodies in the Ukraine, & in both bodies, the lungs were turned to mush.....totally disintegrated. This sounds exactly like what you posted in in the article above. So I'm wondering now if Dr. Niman is on the up & up. I have been listening to his last few interviews....Dr. Niman himself was sick twice while in the interviews. One thing is for sure, there is some kind of a virus making the rounds in Ukraine, & its highly possible that the government there are using it to their advantage.

[Moxie]

I've sent email inquiries to our local news including links about this Ukraine mystery flu to try & find out why there is no coverage. Perhaps more of us should do this.

[iainl140285]

There are NO black lungs according to this:
http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a2994.htm#005