Be careful not to be gullible.

WarriorServant · 12-11-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jaby

LOL...I think you're being a tad melodramatic.

Your posts are very confrontational.

You have to be prepared to be addressed in the same manner.

I don't think you would want anyone to sugar-coat their replies...would you?

All I expect is intelligence.

I don't expect to be called sir.

I don't demand that anyone like me or what I say.

I want SERIOUS dialog. Not fluffy, sugar coted bedtime stories.

If I can't get it without ^above^ I'll happily move along.

ie: Everything from here to "this post" could easily be deleted. It's useless conversation and I am not going to sit here begging for people to be serious all day. I'm already getting tired of it.

Sarahmay · 12-11-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WarriorServant

All I expect is intelligence.

I don't expect to be called sir.

I don't demand that anyone like me or what I say.

I want SERIOUS dialog. Not fluffy, sugar coted bedtime stories.

If I can't get it without ^above^ I'll happily move along.

ie: Everything from here to "this post" could easily be deleted. It's useless conversation and I am not going to sit here begging for people to be serious all day. I'm already getting tired of it.

I humbly suggest that perhaps this is not the forum for you.

WarriorServant · 12-11-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarahmay

I humbly suggest that perhaps this is not the forum for you.

I humbly suggest that you keep your opinions of what is right for me to yourself.

Sarahmay · 12-11-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WarriorServant

I humbly suggest that you keep your opinions of what is right for me to yourself.

Ditto, dude (since you suggested to me my life was in imminent danger on another thread). Yikes, you open up the forum and this is what you get...

Sarahmay · 12-11-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarahmay

I humbly suggest that perhaps this is not the forum for you.

I repeat.

Ross H · 12-11-2009, 10:16 PM

[QUOTE=WarriorServant;197550]All I expect is intelligence.

Expectations of others, can lead one into a whole lot of self-disappointment...

Nobody, to my Knowledge, has all the answers, and for me, that's what makes it all the more exciting...When someone is searching for more, as in truth, after a lifetime of living in the D.I.M.M, (Deception, Illusion, manipulation, Mindcontrol), and then comes to the conclusion that there is something very wrong with the picture, a new journey begins.

Gullibility is part n parcel of this lifetimes experience, We have all been duped to some degree. We are learning, discovering all the time, Trying to make sense of it all...Personally I enjoy not knowing it 'all' as I enjoy my curiosity, my ability to think. We all in the same boat my friend

Peace

WarriorServant · 12-11-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jross

Expectations of others, can lead one into a whole lot of self-disappointment...

Nobody, to my Knowledge, has all the answers, and for me, that's what makes it all the more exciting...When someone is searching for more, as in truth, after a lifetime of living in the D.I.M.M, (Deception, Illusion, manipulation, Mindcontrol), and then comes to the conclusion that there is something very wrong with the picture, a new journey begins.

Gullibility is part n parcel of this lifetimes experience, We have all been duped to some degree. We are learning, discovering all the time, Trying to make sense of it all...Personally I enjoy not knowing it 'all' as I enjoy my curiosity, my ability to think. We all in the same boat my friend

I agree with you on everything above. It's just that I see that there is a LOT of delusion (per capita) on this forum (and other forums like it). I am not personally insulting anyone (or trying to), unless anyone wants to associate themselve's with that assertion -- but what I will do (if allowed) is simply post and work through one delusion at a time.

I may or may not cause people to agree, and that's fine. I will not force anyone to agree. Nor do I wish to. However, I need to be honest and I sincerely believe that the vast majority of people in the disclosure and whistle blowing movements do not have a genuine desire for truth. I sincerely believe that many people are simply after excitement.

I wish to try to break through that and not force people to believe what I do, or what I think what I do -- but have people actually start thinking "themselves". Far too many people DO NOT THINK. They simply browse around for the coolest sounding explnanations for things and simply adopt them. I'm not joking!

Given time, I believe I can help a lot of people to see things more clearly. I absolutely do not claim to be the be all and end all of all answers, but I have profound experiences dating back to when I was a toddler and for that reason I have a life long array of research behind me -- and not just from the Bible.

MadSheeple · 12-11-2009, 11:21 PM

All I have to say is beeing gullible isn't exactly a defect, it is only perceived as a defect when the gullible people are mislead. Imagine a world where there would be no lies and everybody spoke their mind clearly, being gullible would actually be the best thing. So basicly in a positive environment it is a "good" thing and in a negative one it is the opposite.

My 2 cent,
MadSheeple

Ross H · 12-12-2009, 12:55 AM

Warriorservant: I have tried to share various information with various people for YEARS, and NONE OF IT reaches the light of day. The PRIMARY reason for that is because everyone's too busy peeing in each others pockets. That's the truth.

Perhaps you could try a different approach, I dont have any problem with sharing various information with various ppls, weather they agree or dis-agree. Allow ppl to find there own way, sure give them a lil nudge but dont expect anything. Just give and share, as you do, that's whats important. The moment one starts to 'box' in another's view/beliefs is a judgemental act, not conjucive to 'connection' with another, mostly what happens is 'dis-connection' and we have all had enough of that!

Remember, you only have control over your own thought system, Nothing else, and this can be confusing for some, Dont fall into the trap of 'right and wrong' its an illusion. Just share from a place of 'giving' keep your own fequency up-tone, Don't worry about anything else.

Peace

14 Chakras · 12-12-2009, 01:02 AM

Be wise as serpents, harmless as doves.

I agree gullibility is not a great trait, discernment is truly the key to spiritual freedom.

HOWEVER, it is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than it is for a camel to enter the eye of the needle. Consider, "rich" means "rich" in beliefs. The more with "Think" we "know", the more likely we are to cut ourselves off from Divine revelation, from Truth, which is truly Infinite.

As soon as we create an image of what "God is" and who is saved and who is not, and we "know the answers" of creation, well, we've shut ourselves off from Truth, because human minds cannot even begin to understand the mysteries of creation which are infinite and always transcending themselves.

We must "Be as a child to enter the kingdom of heaven that is inside of us, at hand, Now".

Meaning: Curious, always asking questions, no attachments, KNOWING we KNOW NOTHING!

There is always MORE.

Attachments to beliefs are exactly what keep us out of the kingdom of heaven. Reality is much more than our thoughts or beliefs and we will experience suffering should we choose to identify with our thoughts and beliefs, which by their nature, are limited and false. There is always a higher Truth.

As soon as we're 'teachers' and no longer students, then I would suggest we are students who are failing Schoolroom Earth

~ Because there is always MORE, and each of us, yes each of us, has pieces of the puzzle.

Love your neighbor as yourSelf

Shine your Light and Be, but judge not, for we will be judged by the standards we use to judge others (I would suggest this is cosmic law*)

Initiate · 12-12-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Love your neighbor as yourSelf

Of all the things Jesus taught us this is surely the one that resonates the strongest.

We have no reason to assume people will lie to us unless they do. We must continually guage what others say against our experience and our Thought Adjuster, Guiding Source or conscience or what ever you call it. God has given us this gift. For "I am in the Father and the Father is in Me". Jesus taught us that it was this way with us as it is with him. If we listen to our conscience when making any choices we are following the will of God. This is a belief beyond religeon for all religeons that stood the test of time follow this teaching. If we take time to "Be Still to Know God" and listen surely this is as importart as "Asking to Receive".

This is what it means to be careful and not be gullible. In order to do this we must listen not just to those sources of information external but to the true source within for confirmation.

TRANCOSO · 12-13-2009, 03:37 AM

Yo, WarriorServant,
my (humble) advice;
Get a life of your own & don't bother so much about what other people feel, think, dream or whatever they do, that irritates you.

By the way, a Servant of a Warrior is a soldier.
Are you a 'Sir! Yes, sir!' person?

12-11-2009, 10:16 PM	#6
Ross H Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Queensland Australia Posts: 507	Re: Be careful not to be gullible. [QUOTE=WarriorServant;197550]All I expect is intelligence. Expectations of others, can lead one into a whole lot of self-disappointment... Nobody, to my Knowledge, has all the answers, and for me, that's what makes it all the more exciting...When someone is searching for more, as in truth, after a lifetime of living in the D.I.M.M, (Deception, Illusion, manipulation, Mindcontrol), and then comes to the conclusion that there is something very wrong with the picture, a new journey begins. Gullibility is part n parcel of this lifetimes experience, We have all been duped to some degree. We are learning, discovering all the time, Trying to make sense of it all...Personally I enjoy not knowing it 'all' as I enjoy my curiosity, my ability to think. We all in the same boat my friend Peace Peace

12-11-2009, 11:21 PM	#8
MadSheeple Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Just across the river from Ottawa Posts: 55	Re: Be careful not to be gullible. All I have to say is beeing gullible isn't exactly a defect, it is only perceived as a defect when the gullible people are mislead. Imagine a world where there would be no lies and everybody spoke their mind clearly, being gullible would actually be the best thing. So basicly in a positive environment it is a "good" thing and in a negative one it is the opposite. My 2 cent, MadSheeple

12-12-2009, 12:55 AM	#9
Ross H Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Queensland Australia Posts: 507	Re: Be careful not to be gullible. Warriorservant: I have tried to share various information with various people for YEARS, and NONE OF IT reaches the light of day. The PRIMARY reason for that is because everyone's too busy peeing in each others pockets. That's the truth. Perhaps you could try a different approach, I dont have any problem with sharing various information with various ppls, weather they agree or dis-agree. Allow ppl to find there own way, sure give them a lil nudge but dont expect anything. Just give and share, as you do, that's whats important. The moment one starts to 'box' in another's view/beliefs is a judgemental act, not conjucive to 'connection' with another, mostly what happens is 'dis-connection' and we have all had enough of that! Remember, you only have control over your own thought system, Nothing else, and this can be confusing for some, Dont fall into the trap of 'right and wrong' its an illusion. Just share from a place of 'giving' keep your own fequency up-tone, Don't worry about anything else. Peace Last edited by Ross H; 12-13-2009 at 12:38 PM.

12-12-2009, 01:02 AM	#10
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Be careful not to be gullible. Be wise as serpents, harmless as doves. I agree gullibility is not a great trait, discernment is truly the key to spiritual freedom. HOWEVER, it is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than it is for a camel to enter the eye of the needle. Consider, "rich" means "rich" in beliefs. The more with "Think" we "know", the more likely we are to cut ourselves off from Divine revelation, from Truth, which is truly Infinite. As soon as we create an image of what "God is" and who is saved and who is not, and we "know the answers" of creation, well, we've shut ourselves off from Truth, because human minds cannot even begin to understand the mysteries of creation which are infinite and always transcending themselves. We must "Be as a child to enter the kingdom of heaven that is inside of us, at hand, Now". Meaning: Curious, always asking questions, no attachments, KNOWING we KNOW NOTHING! There is always MORE. Attachments to beliefs are exactly what keep us out of the kingdom of heaven. Reality is much more than our thoughts or beliefs and we will experience suffering should we choose to identify with our thoughts and beliefs, which by their nature, are limited and false. There is always a higher Truth. As soon as we're 'teachers' and no longer students, then I would suggest we are students who are failing Schoolroom Earth ~ Because there is always MORE, and each of us, yes each of us, has pieces of the puzzle. Love your neighbor as yourSelf Shine your Light and Be, but judge not, for we will be judged by the standards we use to judge others (I would suggest this is cosmic law*)

12-13-2009, 03:37 AM	#12
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: Be careful not to be gullible. Yo, WarriorServant, my (humble) advice; Get a life of your own & don't bother so much about what other people feel, think, dream or whatever they do, that irritates you. By the way, a Servant of a Warrior is a soldier. Are you a 'Sir! Yes, sir!' person? Last edited by TRANCOSO; 12-13-2009 at 03:41 AM.