Bill Ryan's thread

[Phtha]

Since this gay thing has come up more then once in this thread now I thought I would add something to it.

First I want to say that I do not lower or raise anyone below or above myself based on sexual orientation, or anything else for that matter. To each his own and I truly respect anyone's personal lives or choices. That being said I expect what I say next will still offend people.

It is my belief that homo sexuality is only an effect of an unbalanced dichotomy between the feminine and masculine energies of the Universe. It is just one sign that shows us how unbalanced things have become. If every animal life form on the planet were suddenly converted to homo sexuality then within 120 years there would be no more life, thus it is of a destructive nature. Which is fine, destruction is merely a part of creation. But I bring this up only because I think it is a little thought about aspect of same sex relationships. I think it is just the Universes way of telling us how we really need to work on balancing all of the energies that constantly surround us.

Originally Posted by TempestGarden

That being said, I have to say that I am a little disappointed in this statement. Let me also preface this by saying that I am a gay man and I fully believe and support that you are entitled to your own opinion and view of this world. Upon reading what you wrote, you are seemingly inferring that someone that is homosexual/bisexual somehow has "ethics and values [that] are open to question". It's possible that you are referring to something else, but if you are not, I couldn't disagree with you more. Sexuality and/or sexual orientation has nothing to do with ethics or morality in any way, shape or form. That is religion talking.

[TempestGarden]

Originally Posted by Phtha

It is my belief that homo sexuality is only an effect of an unbalanced dichotomy between the feminine and masculine energies of the Universe. It is just one sign that shows us how unbalanced things have become. If every animal life form on the planet were suddenly converted to homo sexuality then within 120 years there would be no more life, thus it is of a destructive nature. Which is fine, destruction is merely a part of creation. But I bring this up only because I think it is a little thought about aspect of same sex relationships. I think it is just the Universes way of telling us how we really need to work on balancing all of the energies that constantly surround us.

I am not even really sure how to address this, to be quite honest.

In my opinion, you have it completely backwards. I am not saying that to offend you, I just fully believe that the reason why myself and others chose to incarnate as a homosexual is to experience BOTH the masculine and feminine energies. We are not confused nor are we unbalanced. Everyone is an individual and we all lead our own lives and are at different points in existence, just as it should be.

Everything is about balance, which is exactly why you would never see a majority of the population being homosexual because you wouldn't have further creation of a species, in this case humans. That in no way implies that I am not in alignment with nature or any sort of Universal Laws. All it really says is that I came here to experience life as a gay man and all the lessons it would give me, besides the dual energies I mentioned above.

[Phtha]

Thanks Tempest you bring up some great points. In fact I was just forwarded some information that sort of corresponds with what you just wrote. There are certain native tribes, one in particular, that calls homosexuals "two souled", and that they incarnate in order to help balance the masculine and feminine energies. I thought this a great concept. I didn't mean to imply that homosexuals themselves are unbalanced but I understand how what I wrote would seem that way.

The main reason I brought it up was because I think this whole politically correct "ignore it and move along" way of viewing homosexuality is more damaging then good.

All the blest to you and thank you for your response.

Originally Posted by TempestGarden

I am not even really sure how to address this, to be quite honest.

In my opinion, you have it completely backwards. I am not saying that to offend you, I just fully believe that the reason why myself and others chose to incarnate as a homosexual is to experience BOTH the masculine and feminine energies. We are not confused nor are we unbalanced. Everyone is an individual and we all lead our own lives and are at different points in existence, just as it should be.

[FIIISH]

Originally Posted by TempestGarden

I am not even really sure how to address this, to be quite honest.

In my opinion, you have it completely backwards. I am not saying that to offend you, I just fully believe that the reason why myself and others chose to incarnate as a homosexual is to experience BOTH the masculine and feminine energies. We are not confused nor are we unbalanced. Everyone is an individual and we all lead our own lives and are at different points in existence, just as it should be.

Everything is about balance, which is exactly why you would never see a majority of the population being homosexual because you wouldn't have further creation of a species, in this case humans. That in no way implies that I am not in alignment with nature or any sort of Universal Laws. All it really says is that I came here to experience life as a gay man and all the lessons it would give me, besides the dual energies I mentioned above.

Very well spoken, TempestGarden.