Bill Ryan's thread

[Bill Ryan]

Originally Posted by Spregovori

Bill/Mr. Ryan, during the Brussels and LA Conference...the live stream chat was...filled with utter nonsense and disrespect towards PC, speakers and there were also direct and very improper things said regarding you and Kerry.

I do not know why was that allowed but I think the next time the chat should be either monitored or turned off.

and

Would it be possible for Dane Tops to describe in great detail all the positive techniques? Step by step instructions on how to do it? He said the original founder (Hubbard) always intended for people to know and learn them - so why not do it? I know he recommended the original Dianetics as a start but still...the book is rather old...and an update seems a logical thing to do. The things he talked about (I read the transcript) are very interesting.... Letting the general public know (via internet) how to implement this techniques could prove a crushing blow to the "bad people".

and

Do you read Mr. Fulfords blog posts? Any thoughts?

1) Thanks, and we're aware of this. We don't like Ustream, and probably won't use it again. The chat function will be disabled if we do.

2) Fully agreed. I'm in regular touch with Dane Tops and a further interview is absolutely on the cards (about the techniques).

3) Fulford: I listen to him on Rense every month. He's well-meaning and has a big heart but I'm not personally convinced that all his information is reliable.

One obvious example is his recent visit by Leo Zagami, representing the Black Pope. I promise you that the Black Pope would not choose Benjamin Fulford as his instrument of choice for revealing critical information to the world. (He'd not choose us, either.)

As for Zagami, he phoned Kerry a few months ago telling her that he was being tortured. No joke.

Originally Posted by Daft Ada

Bill I listened to the Rayelan Allan interview. It's only an 18 minute sample and they tell you to hear the rest you have to become a member and pay.

Apologies: I'd not known this. I added a note to the Camelot site, and have asked Rayelan if we can stream it from our server.

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

An earlier post by NoCaste mentioned how whistleblowers should approach the Camelot team and be heard, among the mass of other comms they get. Thats not easy, I have been kicking my heels here for over a year and without sounding big headed, am not exactly an unknown name in that field or even Ufo research. Newcomers would perhaps find it difficult to catch Bill or Kerry's ear or eye. I think they have a comfortable 'family' of individuals they regularly call upon for confs and interviews, these being Deagle, Wilcock, Delicardo, Deacon, Peterson, etc etc. Its like a little closed shop with these same individuals. I personally would not bother trying to be heard above the kerfuffle of these 'family' members. Just an observation

Dear Barry: on 8 July 2008, you wrote us this message:

Hi Bill, I regret to have to inform you that due to recent events i am now not permitted to give any interviews whatsoever, no media coverage of any sort is allowed. I am not allowed to discuss any of my past openly. I thank you both and Project Camelot for your interest and support and wish you continued success. All the best, Barry

Originally Posted by TheChosen

1) What are the real reasons for the CERN accelerator? From my own astral experiences I've seen CERN to be a major black ops research center (Any insider information on what goes on in there?)

2) Have you by any chance heard about connections between the hyperdimensional AI and a guy named Hubert Dreyfus or the RAND corporation .. or perhaps connections between the AI and CERN

3) Latest info is that the vaccine is actually intended to do DNA mutation much like the movie Legend turning people into a Zombie like state (could be on etheric/astral level if not physical).. it came from Astralwalker in his topic.

1) Henry Deacon/Arthur Neumann told us that nothing was being done in CERN that hadn't been done in US military experiments as long as 20 years ago. He assured us it was not an issue and that everything was hyped. I believed him.

2) No - will check it out. Thanks.

3) This is very contentious here: but I personally would not believe everything that Astralwalker claims. Some of his information is valid and interesting, some less so. As any member of this forum, he of course has a right to his opinions. But that does not make them correct.

Originally Posted by Flying Pyramid

I have tried to contact you several times through various means,

Please do try again with an email with subject line FROM FLYING PYRAMID.

We sincerely apologize to everyone and anyone who has tried to contact us with personally important information. It's sometimes nearly impossible to keep up with correspondence, and it's a major problem.

I can tell one amusing story here (with a happy ending - I hope). We totally missed one e-mail from someone who was a major whistleblower. We were traveling at the time and had a huge backlog. I only found it much later accidentally while searching for something else.

It was from a physicist who had worked for Majestic, with Hughes and Martin Marietta on antigravity, had seen ET bodies, knew about crashes pre-Roswell, and knew all about the bases on the moon (and more) - and he said he wanted to talk. And we both MISSED it. We're back in touch with this man - but still haven't done an interview.

********

More later - have to go to attend to something. I'll be back within several hours if possible. Cheers, B

[Lily de Cuir]

Hi Bill + Kerry,

I am new here on this forum. Stumbling around here....lol. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Discovered PC over a year ago and have just about listened to all interviews now - some 2 or 3 times. Changed my life. Thank you for that. You will not remember but I emailed you some time ago that I listen to all your interviews on my iPod while cleaning dunnies downunder....no joke! My clients have no idea what I'm listening to! Cracks me up.

Wow, over 30,000 posts, what have you let yourself in for?

I make small donations to you where I can. I promise if I ever come into some money, one of my first stops will be to send a 'goodly sized' donation to PC. Really admire both of you tremendously, admire your energy, faith and integrity.

PS: Don't do the merchandising hat thing! We like you just the way you are - barefoot, humble and ordinary and yet extraordinary - just like us!

No questions or requests, just keep on what you're doing - digging to unearth the truth.

Much appreciation and respect to you both.

Lily de Cuir

[Gnosis5]

Hello Bill, and anyone who might have some insight:

There is a series of messages from the Galactic Federation here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A6Gf...eature=channel

I never paid much attention to the Galactic Federation (I hate wearing uniforms) until a few days ago it appears myself and my associate are getting messages from someone who appears to be on one of the Galactic Federation ships.

Of course that did get my attention and it appears I do have a mission regarding civilization on this planet.

The reason I ask you Bill is that in your interview of Dane (the ex-scientologist) there was a brief mention of the Galactic Patrol. Are they the same group or a different group...and have you or anyone else had any contact with either of this group.....


best,
Gnosis

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

We totally missed one e-mail from someone who was a major whistleblower.

It was from a physicist who had worked for Majestic, with Hughes and Martin Marietta on antigravity, had seen ET bodies, knew about crashes pre-Roswell, and knew all about the bases on the moon (and more)

I'm just dying to know if you'll ever interview this most interesting person. What a shame.

Best of luck on that one, I can't wait!

[Flying Pyramid]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Please do try again with an email with subject line FROM FLYING PYRAMID.

We sincerely apologize to everyone and anyone who has tried to contact us with personally important information. It's sometimes nearly impossible to keep up with correspondence, and it's a major problem.

Hi Bill thank you for repling.
And i am very glad to see the forum is free again and that you are active as ever.

Yeah i can only imagine the ocean of e-mails to look through from all types of people. I am not sure what e-mail address to contact you at so i will try a p.m. through here and an e-mail at ProjectCamelot.
If you have a better address for me to contact you through please p.m. it to me.

I also am very interested in seeing/hearing the majestic interview.
Montauk, Majestic, Project Talent, Project MK-Ultra, Treasure Island, and alot of other places, people, and "things" are apart of my life and i am hopelessly attracted to finding more like myself.

God Bless Bill & Kerry
(p.s. does is Kerry still involved with Avalon?)

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

1) Thanks, and we're aware of this. We don't like Ustream, and probably won't use it again. The chat function will be disabled if we do.

2) Fully agreed. I'm in regular touch with Dane Tops and a further interview is absolutely on the cards (about the techniques).

3) Fulford: I listen to him on Rense every month. He's well-meaning and has a big heart but I'm not personally convinced that all his information is reliable.

One obvious example is his recent visit by Leo Zagami, representing the Black Pope. I promise you that the Black Pope would not choose Benjamin Fulford as his instrument of choice for revealing critical information to the world. (He'd not choose us, either.)

As for Zagami, he phoned Kerry a few months ago telling her that he was being tortured. No joke.



Apologies: I'd not known this. I added a note to the Camelot site, and have asked Rayelan if we can stream it from our server.



Dear Barry: on 8 July 2008, you wrote us this message:





1) Henry Deacon/Arthur Neumann told us that nothing was being done in CERN that hadn't been done in US military experiments as long as 20 years ago. He assured us it was not an issue and that everything was hyped. I believed him.

2) No - will check it out. Thanks.

3) This is very contentious here: but I personally would not believe everything that Astralwalker claims. Some of his information is valid and interesting, some less so. As any member of this forum, he of course has a right to his opinions. But that does not make them correct.



Please do try again with an email with subject line FROM FLYING PYRAMID.

We sincerely apologize to everyone and anyone who has tried to contact us with personally important information. It's sometimes nearly impossible to keep up with correspondence, and it's a major problem.

I can tell one amusing story here (with a happy ending - I hope). We totally missed one e-mail from someone who was a major whistleblower. We were traveling at the time and had a huge backlog. I only found it much later accidentally while searching for something else.

It was from a physicist who had worked for Majestic, with Hughes and Martin Marietta on antigravity, had seen ET bodies, knew about crashes pre-Roswell, and knew all about the bases on the moon (and more) - and he said he wanted to talk. And we both MISSED it. We're back in touch with this man - but still haven't done an interview.

********

More later - have to go to attend to something. I'll be back within several hours if possible. Cheers, B

Hi Bill, I'm sure with all your meets with others they would tell you of the greater politics which drives whether interviews should be given by an individual or not. Yes at that time July 2008 certain events were about to play out taking me out of the scene completely. Will not detail in public here but can PM you some data. The changes re these power politics occur frequently. This year I have been available for interviews, even Miles Johnston (of Bases 2 DVDs) wishes further interviews. Politics between certain groups in UK and US often wrestle for control over an individual. This has been the case with me. Hope that clears that up or people might think the gagging is constantly in place. Might hear from you yet Bill?
Regards, Barry

[petem]

hi bill,
Your statements regarding Clif High hiring a "PI" to research Br Bill has raised many an eyebrow among us Avalon veterans. Clif has read your statements and has responded in kind. Please read his entire response, this is just a portion of it. It is enlightening and quite eloquent;

Of course, I expect both Bill Ryan, Bill Deagle, and lots of other humans to respond to this. Such is necessary in these woo-jo disputes. Let each make up their own mind as to validity of arguments and statements. That is how an open, asymmetric social organization is created. Not through ordo ab chaos, but rather through continuous recharging of harmony within the chaotic environment.

Of course I am willing to have all the information and projections and forecasts that I publish investigated and analyzed. It is necessary that such a critical, discriminating mind be developed in every human on the internet. I put out our reports in as straight forward a manner as possible such that it will be able to be determined if these are accurate or ********. It is a case of intellectual honesty, if you will allow, even a personal integrity. I put what dates, and other discrete markers that are available, in our work to support that effort at intellectual honesty. Opinions will be individually formed about the accuracy and motives of my work here. That is as it should be. Examine, poke, prod and gnaw until universe reveals facts that can become the core of truth. The reader here would be foolish to take my word for any thing, just as I would be a damned fool to take Bill Deagle, or Bill Ryan’s information without a complete and critical analysis.

It has been Bill Ryan’s response to my critical analysis of Bill Deagle’s information, and stated personal opinion that I did not find Bill Deagle to be credible, that has set this whole stinky mess into manifesting. At first I thought to just bitch to Bill Ryan privately about his abusive language and accusations, and then let it go. However there are, in my opinion, larger issues involved that go to the heart of the woo-jo. I favor a critical, feet on the mat approach to the woo-woo world as it is so important and because time is short.

"Bill Ryan has maligned me, and accused me. I am responding and calling him on it. Integrity is what is demonstrated Bill Ryan, the slings and arrows of critical examination that you take, and then prove your case, not what is proclaimed.

Ok, let us take this to the mats!

Of course Bill Ryan is invited to dialogue on this matter in any form he may so choose. Not that he requires my permission for anything….

Masa katsu (true victory is victory over oneself)!
Clif High of halfpasthuman.com"

[Frank Samuel]

Hi again Bill,

In your last interview you really pour out your heart, to my pleasant amazement, you are quite an advance spiritual soul. You mention in the interview that you have memories as far back as 2,000 yrs. How did you gain these memories ? Bill once again I thank you have made an impact in my life
which has accelerated my awakening a thousand fold. Honestly you and Kerry changed my life and for this I am forever in your debt.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Hi again Bill,

In your last interview you really pour out your heart, to my pleasant amazement, you are quite an advance spiritual soul. You mention in the interview that you have memories as far back as 2,000 yrs. How did you gain these memories ? Bill once again I thank you have made an impact in my life
which has accelerated my awakening a thousand fold. Honestly you and Kerry changed my life and for this I am forever in your debt.

I'll bet he has recalled events back further than that -- my memories go back before time, before this universe, and I know others who remember about 360 universes before this one, if time matters. Perhaps he just meant on this planet....

[Frank Samuel]

Gnosis, Yes I have also gain ancient memories towards the very moment of the creation of my soul. Understanding who we are is the key to restoring ourselves.
What I wanted to know from Bill is what techniques he used to regain the memories of past lives. I have only gotten a few glimpses of my past lives . Going back 2,000 yrs of recollections is quite a treasure of memories.

[Phtha]

I asked Bill that same question and his response was scientology methods. You might want to read the new interview PC has up with Dane Tops for more info if you haven't.
You can find Bills answer a few pages back.

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

What I wanted to know from Bill is what techniques he used to regain the memories of past lives. I have only gotten a few glimpses of my past lives .

[Illusion]

I'm new here, but have been following Bill and Kerry for years, going all the way back to the Serp site. You both do such great work.

I recently heard your interview with Freedom Central, Bill, stating that it was all a game. This caused me to jon Avalon.

4 months ago I would have thought you were crazy saying life was a game. Now I completely understand it. I realized a month or two ago. I even said out loud. Okay, Game over. I know its a game and because I know its a game. The game is up! Nothing happened. The game continues. The synchronicities and strange happenings in my life, made me realize that it just wasn't possible, that I was living a "normal" life. I've also had Et in my life a few times. Wanted to let you know, that your not alone. Might even start a new thread to find out if anyone else is playing games lol.

From another Gamer

[Gnosis5]

Hello Illusion,

Welcome to the Game Over crew. I have given myself the assignment as part of the mopping up crew and we are mopping up by giving everyone a prize and sending them back to their Source. No sore losers in this GAME!

love,
Gnosis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qXT8...eature=related

Originally Posted by Illusion

I'm new here, but have been following Bill and Kerry for years, going all the way back to the Serp site. You both do such great work.

I recently heard your interview with Freedom Central, Bill, stating that it was all a game. This caused me to jon Avalon.

4 months ago I would have thought you were crazy saying life was a game. Now I completely understand it. I realized a month or two ago. I even said out loud. Okay, Game over. I know its a game and because I know its a game. The game is up! Nothing happened. The game continues. The synchronicities and strange happenings in my life, made me realize that it just wasn't possible, that I was living a "normal" life. I've also had Et in my life a few times. Wanted to let you know, that your not alone. Might even start a new thread to find out if anyone else is playing games lol.

From another Gamer

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Gnosis, Yes I have also gain ancient memories towards the very moment of the creation of my soul. Understanding who we are is the key to restoring ourselves.
What I wanted to know from Bill is what techniques he used to regain the memories of past lives. I have only gotten a few glimpses of my past lives . Going back 2,000 yrs of recollections is quite a treasure of memories.

I can easily help you go Superconscious (a native ability) and view your own past lives. I have 150 hours of session notes that I have yet to write up about Hubby's prior existences. I work over the phone or SKYPE, but I'm not in the business and do it for informational purposes only. Like you, I am sometimes just curious and can't pass up such an open invitation here :-)

When I view my prior existences I use the pattersheet of R3X, which is published on the internet and in the "Files" section of Freezone_Earth Yahoo Group, or just email Robert DuCharme, the main instigator for R3X.

My former PEAT instructor, Karen Gould, gave me a blowout session that I will never forget. But CAVEAT EMPTOR -- grab the goodies and run.

[Gnosis5]

Petem wrote: "...feet on the mat approach to the woo-woo world ..."

What does he mean by "woo-woo" world? I walk in several worlds so I don't know which one he is referring to. Is he one of those people who like to reject anything they do not comprehend by using baby talk? LOL.

cheers!
Gnosis

[Aztar]

Although all these puffed up chest displays and groupie mentality posts are interesting to watch from a psychological perspective, could we perhaps get back to questions ?

Hey Bill

Have you had any contact with Dan Winter?

I already asked this but may have gotten lost amongst all the swinging appendages.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Aztar

Although all these puffed up chest displays and groupie mentality posts are interesting to watch from a psychological perspective, could we perhaps get back to questions ?

Hey Bill

Have you had any contact with Dan Winter?

I already asked this but may have gotten lost amongst all the swinging appendages.

Okay, Lord Aztar, so sorry, my "BAD".

Dear Bill Ryan,

• Are you afraid to mention the name of the Annunaki?
• Do you have an awareness that each one of us can help heal the rifts between us and our ancient polar oppositions?
• Do you think I am puffing out my chest and being psychologically interesting or have you known better people than I who exhibit more abilities than I even can mention?

love with laughter,
Gnosis

[eleni]

Ha Gnosis- I love it. Their game is over as far as I'm concerned- the Annunaki can go take a hike.....

Wonder why they don't like to show their faces- reminds of the wizard behind the curtain.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by eleni

Ha Gnosis- I love it. Their game is over as far as I'm concerned- the Annunaki can go take a hike.....

Wonder why they don't like to show their faces- reminds of the wizard behind the curtain.

SHHHHHH!! You'll get me in trouble -- please append a question to Bill on all your posts to me -- Aztar is not amused!!!


love,
gnosis

[dolphin]

Originally Posted by petem

hi bill,
Your statements regarding Clif High hiring a "PI" to research Br Bill has raised many an eyebrow among us Avalon veterans. Clif has read your statements and has responded in kind. Please read his entire response, this is just a portion of it. It is enlightening and quite eloquent;

Of course, I expect both Bill Ryan, Bill Deagle, and lots of other humans to respond to this. Such is necessary in these woo-jo disputes. Let each make up their own mind as to validity of arguments and statements. That is how an open, asymmetric social organization is created. Not through ordo ab chaos, but rather through continuous recharging of harmony within the chaotic environment.

Of course I am willing to have all the information and projections and forecasts that I publish investigated and analyzed. It is necessary that such a critical, discriminating mind be developed in every human on the internet. I put out our reports in as straight forward a manner as possible such that it will be able to be determined if these are accurate or ********. It is a case of intellectual honesty, if you will allow, even a personal integrity. I put what dates, and other discrete markers that are available, in our work to support that effort at intellectual honesty. Opinions will be individually formed about the accuracy and motives of my work here. That is as it should be. Examine, poke, prod and gnaw until universe reveals facts that can become the core of truth. The reader here would be foolish to take my word for any thing, just as I would be a damned fool to take Bill Deagle, or Bill Ryan’s information without a complete and critical analysis.

It has been Bill Ryan’s response to my critical analysis of Bill Deagle’s information, and stated personal opinion that I did not find Bill Deagle to be credible, that has set this whole stinky mess into manifesting. At first I thought to just bitch to Bill Ryan privately about his abusive language and accusations, and then let it go. However there are, in my opinion, larger issues involved that go to the heart of the woo-jo. I favor a critical, feet on the mat approach to the woo-woo world as it is so important and because time is short.

"Bill Ryan has maligned me, and accused me. I am responding and calling him on it. Integrity is what is demonstrated Bill Ryan, the slings and arrows of critical examination that you take, and then prove your case, not what is proclaimed.

Ok, let us take this to the mats!

Of course Bill Ryan is invited to dialogue on this matter in any form he may so choose. Not that he requires my permission for anything….

Masa katsu (true victory is victory over oneself)!
Clif High of halfpasthuman.com"

yes, i'd like to hear why you did as such too. it seems bill deagle is "untouchable" ... but why?

[unlimited mind]

Originally Posted by petem

hi bill,
Your statements regarding Clif High hiring a "PI" to research Br Bill has raised many an eyebrow among us Avalon veterans. Clif has read your statements and has responded in kind. Please read his entire response, this is just a portion of it. It is enlightening and quite eloquent;

Of course, I expect both Bill Ryan, Bill Deagle, and lots of other humans to respond to this. Such is necessary in these woo-jo disputes. Let each make up their own mind as to validity of arguments and statements. That is how an open, asymmetric social organization is created. Not through ordo ab chaos, but rather through continuous recharging of harmony within the chaotic environment.

Of course I am willing to have all the information and projections and forecasts that I publish investigated and analyzed. It is necessary that such a critical, discriminating mind be developed in every human on the internet. I put out our reports in as straight forward a manner as possible such that it will be able to be determined if these are accurate or ********. It is a case of intellectual honesty, if you will allow, even a personal integrity. I put what dates, and other discrete markers that are available, in our work to support that effort at intellectual honesty. Opinions will be individually formed about the accuracy and motives of my work here. That is as it should be. Examine, poke, prod and gnaw until universe reveals facts that can become the core of truth. The reader here would be foolish to take my word for any thing, just as I would be a damned fool to take Bill Deagle, or Bill Ryan’s information without a complete and critical analysis.

It has been Bill Ryan’s response to my critical analysis of Bill Deagle’s information, and stated personal opinion that I did not find Bill Deagle to be credible, that has set this whole stinky mess into manifesting. At first I thought to just bitch to Bill Ryan privately about his abusive language and accusations, and then let it go. However there are, in my opinion, larger issues involved that go to the heart of the woo-jo. I favor a critical, feet on the mat approach to the woo-woo world as it is so important and because time is short.

"Bill Ryan has maligned me, and accused me. I am responding and calling him on it. Integrity is what is demonstrated Bill Ryan, the slings and arrows of critical examination that you take, and then prove your case, not what is proclaimed.

Ok, let us take this to the mats!

Of course Bill Ryan is invited to dialogue on this matter in any form he may so choose. Not that he requires my permission for anything….

Masa katsu (true victory is victory over oneself)!
Clif High of halfpasthuman.com"

EXACTLY! i knew once clif found out what was being said about him, and his integrity, he would most certainly come to his own defense in some way. it did not resonate with me from the get go. and truly, was rather shocked that you Bill, would make something like that public, when it was not truth.