Bill Ryan's thread

[Bill Ryan]

Hello, All:

Apologies for not getting to the forum yesterday. I'm working my way through all questions in sequence. Easy to miss something, so please re-post if necessary.

Again, some replies have been brief - I hope you can understand - and I'm using this as an opportunity not just to clarify with a brief 'yes' or 'no, sorry', but where I can with a little added value and context.

Thanks also to all those coming back (or who have been there all the time!) saying hello personally here. Very much appreciated.

Originally Posted by Tyler Macmillan

Have you considered having a plan or protocol in place to keep the Camelot idea/work alive in the event that both of you are compromised by a third party like LRH was? I know this is strongly implied in the pledge, but I'm talking about something more concrete, like an emergency succession plan.

This is a completely excellent question and I have no neat answer.

It's unlikely that we'd be shot in the back of the head (messy and attracts way too much attention) or suicided (the pledge handles that). If I were a PTB Camelot enemy I'd create problems for us that get us fighting with each other terminally or unable to continue our work in other ways (logistical, financial, legal) that look like normal human stuff that 'just happens'.

We have a bit of a back-up team and massive general support among hundreds of close allies who have got to know us well - but no understudies as such.

We could each continue Camelot alone - so there is reduncancy there, like a two-engined plane able to cross the Atlantic on one if needed. But at the moment if we were both disabled I think the whole project would be archived.

Originally Posted by Cyaneyed

I wondered if you'd share your opinions on Indigos, their origins, whether you've met any (aside from Boruska of course), and whether someone could be an indigo without realising? Also if you would recommend any names or sources that you trust for more information on indigos, that would be fantastic.

Bonus question-what's your opinion of Michael Tsarion's work, and would you be interested in interviewing him?

1) Indigos: I'm not personally clear whether they're a different kind of human being, a different kind of soul (e.g. from elsewhere or elsewhen), or just a generic term for newcomers who are happily and freely surfing on the wave of the increase of consciousness that is definitely here and building.

The presence of Indigos and Crystals is one of the most important reasons why I do not believe any catastrophe or wipe-out will occur.

If that was predestined or unavoidable or sitting there on some fixed future, they wouldn't have come here. (And neither would I, or probably any of you.) I talk about this in my Freedom Central interview.

2) Tsarion: yes, would love to talk with him.

Originally Posted by Hiram

Considering how few interviews James [WingMakers] has ever done...this is a real honor for PC that he spoke with you. Why do you think he did so?? Was the door left open for any future correspondence from James???[/I]

We were blown away too. Kerry was in touch with James way back (before Camelot) and has the rights to a possible WingMakers movie. (No money involved. James just gave Kerry the rights.) Kerry has never actually met him - no-one has.

James is a Camelot follower like many are out there. We have a huge invisible audience (a million visitors every 30-33 days) and only hear regularly from a very small % of these people. That blows us away too when we realize who's following and appreciating our work.

Originally Posted by 9ofclubs

My question is what you think about what William Cooper said about, indirectly, Jordan Maxwell? He seemed to be under the impression that he was part of the "mystery school" people.

We respect the work of Bill Cooper and pay tribute to him on our site here:

http://projectcamelot.org/cooper.html

We do know that he had inflated his past and his credentials (John Lear and Rich Dolan talk about this) but that doesn't minimize his importance in the alternative community. I read Beyond A Pale Horse when it came out in late 1991 (I'd pre-ordered a copy and I remember my excitement the day it arrived, just before Christmas) and Cooper was instrumental in shaping my thinking at that time when I was in my late 30s.

Don't quote this out of context (please!), but depending on what you mean by "mystery school" I'd say that yes, Jordan is at his core a mystery school researcher and that he would say that there was a lot of truth and wisdom in ancient philosophy and metaphysics that has since been twisted by the Dark Side and used for its own ends.

An interesting snippet: Earlier I was asked a question about Hidden Hand's information, and I replied that we'd been contacted by someone who told us that HH's information was 90% accurate but deliberately contained 10% falsehoods.

This person who contacted us belonged to a group we'd never heard of before and which I can find no information about on the internet. He was 100% a good guy and we both liked him a lot.

He took us out to dinner and told us that he was breaking ranks as he was "forbidden" (he stressed that twice) to talk to outsiders. The reason he respected our work was because he recognized that we were genuine truth-seekers and didn't seek to make any money out of the information we learned. He was able to get away with his code break because he was very senior in his group and he took full responsibility for his decision to talk to us.

He described his group as a [my paraphrase] an ancient but still-active "benevolent counterpart of the Illuminati". He confirmed that not all the information was lost in the Great Library of Alexandria and that in fact much of it was still intact. I can't tell you how much this intrigued me.

This encounter (which was not recorded) was beyond fascinating and this is one of many projects we're following up. The relevance of this anecdote is that not everyone associated with "mystery schools" is bad.

The following questions from The Guy are so excellent, focused and intelligent that I've largely kept them intact and not abbreviated them. (Please no-one else take this as a personal slight!)

Originally Posted by TheGuy

1. What is the name of the fish whose oil(mentioned in one of your recent interviews) can be used to decalcify the pineal gland?

Skate Liver Oil.

One source is here:

http://www.greenpasture.org/retail/?...kate-liver-oil

(no commercial interest - just info)

Originally Posted by TheGuy

1.1 Are you aware of other methods for decalcifying the pineal, or otherwise unlocking "psychic" abilities using similar methods, or the parts of the body necessary for producing such abilities?

No personal knowledge or expertise.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2. You have spoken to whistleblowers who know a lot about certain secrets, one of these is "remote viewing", it's pretty obvious to anyone who's seriously researched this that the declassified material is severely watered down. If you know anything about it, can you comment about non-watered down versions of what was/is developed during/after declassification? Specifically, methods to practice RV realistically/accurately, as opposed to watered down paper methods. (Your recent interview with the Scientologist mentions what I consider real "RV" is, actually leaving the body or bi-locating to "view" something)

We were told by Peterson that the only book that really tells the truth about RV was the original one (Psychic Warrior) by David Morehouse.

http://amazon.com/Psychic-Warrior-Am.../dp/0312964137

I have it in writing from Christopher (Kit) Green) that the military RV program was never closed down and instead went "underground" using drugs, electronics, hypnosis, etc to augment the abilities. Joe McMoneagle, Ed Dames and the others were never involved in that and never knew anything about it. I asked Kit whether Pat Price really died, but never got an answer. That (absence of an answer) might not mean anything - I don't know.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.1 Can you recommend any books, authors, people, authorities, or otherwise point people in the right direction to developing these abilities? (For example, REAL Scientologists that can clear, methods to unlock abilities, tech ppl can make themselves, etc.)

Not really, I'm afraid. see above re Psychic Warrior. Free Zone Scientology only focuses on freeing one from charge from the past (and other interfering sources in present time) and doesn't seek to augment abilities per se.

The purpose is to free the person as a spiritual being... and then the interesting abilities sometimes come as a by-product.

The best analogy is rehabilitating someone who's been in a wheelchair for years and can now walk once more. That doesn't mean that can run, do gymnastics, or climb mountains. That takes separate training. But the potential is there once the problem is handled that stopped him from being able to use his legs.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.2 Have you tried to interview James Casbolt, who seems to have been trained in a method of Telepathy to specifically communicate with a certain species of "ET", and who mentions the method being based around altering his ability to "vibrate" (or something like that)at a certain frequency mentally? (This is similar to "RV" and may be useful)

2.2a If you do interview him, can you ask him to explain this training in useful terms for "lay persons" so the general populace can train themselves in this ability?

No. I need to be careful and responsible about what I say here. We have not met or spoken with James Casbolt, and have corresponded with him once or twice very briefly. He's definitely had real experiences and is not just making this stuff up.

Meanwhile, some of his reported information - as best as I can see - and I may be wrong - comes from the internet and is relayed information from elsewhere. It SEEMS to be a real grab-bag of material that's quite complex and needs care to analyze. We have not spent very much time doing this so are not experts in his story or his information. That's an important caveat.

But: it's also hard to understand how (if he was as close to this information as he states) he would be permitted to talk freely. Of course, I do know that people also say that about Camelot and about people like Bill Deagle. The short answer is my first - that we have not met him and would be interested to do so.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.3 Are you aware of any technology that enhances or provides this ability(RV)? You mention looking glass and RV in some interviews or it's mentioned by others, but it's never really discussed in depth. If you are aware of it, can you comment on it?

2.3a Can you provide more details that are practically applicable to your audience? (Actual tech, practices, techniques, etc. that ppl can do)

Please see all answers above...

Originally Posted by TheGuy

As an aside to this line of questions, I'd like to say that I appreciate the amount of information currently being shared to the world from whistleblowers and etc., but I would also(as I'm sure others would as well) appreciate applicable/practical techniques, schematics for devices, ideas, practices, etc. that can be used to turn things around. I don't feel that knowing truth is going to magically turn things around, things need to be done, changed, altered, choices need to be made, lifestyle changes, etc. Unlocking a natural ability like "RV" would be a very good first step to freeing humanity. If you can access all information, no truth can be hidden from anyone, and an honest world can start to form. I know it's asking a lot of these whistleblowers, but it's not only necessary to share truth of things like what's secretly going on, but to also share WHY and HOW when/if possible. I wholeheartedly disagree with doom and gloom and assumptions based on limited perceptions of reality that assume there's nothing we can do.

This is Kerry's idea behind Project Light Warrior: to help create a [kind of] cadre of modern Jedi Knights using a variety of resources.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.4 Many mind controlled ppl have come forward, they almost all mention psychic training, and they almost all seem to be reluctant to accept that parts of them have been unlocked, at least from what I see of their public presentations. I don't agree that the methods used to unlock these abilities are right, but I do appreciate the fact that they have been given something others never even dream about, abilities beyond normal slavebot status. Wouldn't it be beneficial not only for them, but everyone else, if they accept those abilities and try to learn more about them and share how to develop or use them or in some other way make use of the negative experiences to in some way benefit humanity? I realize this question is kind of on the line, but I also realize this line is really avoided, and it needs addressed. We've all had negative experiences in our life, maybe not all of us were subjected to extreme circumstances like some of the mind controlled, but those negative experiences can teach us about our limits or lack thereof. It makes me die a little inside, every time I see an Ex-(insert something here, satanist, vampire, mind control victim, etc.) abandon everything related to the negative experience as if it's bad just cause some evil ppl used it for evil purposes, and they give it all up and just turn back to a "normal" mundane life as a "Christian"(yet another form of slavery these days, a religious model used often to control minds and limit abilities) or something.

I do agree with you. There's a huge amount of information here and many who have been abused close the door (understandably) to everything. Our friend Henry Deacon is among them.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.4a Have the mind controlled considered the idea of teaching others how to not be mind controlled, and/or to control their own minds to do "superhuman" things?

This might be one of the themes for the coming 13-14 February MK Ultra Conference in Boston.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.4b Negative/evil training cannot be the only way to empower a human, as evidenced by your recent Scientology interview, King Fu Masters, Anastasia from the Ringing Cedars Series of Books, etc. Can any of your whistleblowers comment on methods that don't involve trauma based mind control to unlock abilities or technology that's non-invasive, or etc.?

Yes - this technology exists and is not trauma-based. Jake Simpson http://projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html had his reading speed increased to between 80,000-100,000 words per minute. He still has quote a lot of this ability many years later. He has NOT told us how this was trained/gained. He walks a careful tightrope with us and knows exactly what he can and can't say and how far he can go.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.4c In your opinion, after interviewing all of these ppl and doing all this research, is being a human with fully developed expression and abilities merely as simple as letting go of all the negative things that stop us from that, or do we actually need to do something for our inherent abilities to manifest?

See above re the analogy of the person in the wheelchair who can now walk again. They can't run yet, or dance, or do much else. But the potential is now there, and needs training and application.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.4c.1 As an example, in the Anastasia books, she was raised in what could be considered optimal conditions. (In nature, no limits, no negative influences from city, chemicals, etc.) Now, obviously not all of us are born into, or raised in optimal conditions, so the question is, would one raised in less than optimal conditions revert back to "pristine" state if X were accomplished? X could be letting go of all negative aspects of life(not eating junk food, living in city, etc), or it could be practicing some spiritual practice, or it could be anything really.

I'm not sure that the conditions are a major part of the situation. (The Anastasia story is a modern myth, by the way -this was not a real person. But the story and message are very valuable as an inspiration.) But of course living in a 'clean' environment (no pollutants or toxins or stress and - importantly - no electro-smog) must help quite a lot.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.5 You have a lot of experience interviewing different types of ppl, have you noticed certain patterns or cycles in your careers as interviewers related to mind control that you can comment on? (Either trauma based, or more mundane, like spiritual/religious, etc.)

No patterns that I can think of - good question.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.6 Do Kerry or yourself(Bill) work on developing abilities like "RV", and if so, what progress or usefulness have you had with it or how has it helped your quest to share truth with the world?

We both have some natural and gained psychic abilities that of course help. We don't sit down and go through RV protocols (targets, envelopes, pen and paper, etc).

Originally Posted by TheGuy

3. Taking everything you've been exposed to into consideration, what do you think(opinion, logical, or intuition) honestly, the next step for humanity is really supposed to be? (Are we supposed to experience "growing pains" with negative events, are we supposed to recognize the bs for what it is and rise above it, are we supposed to transition to another state of being(maybe not physical), etc.)

I think it's an increase of consciousness that's finally intended (and may or may not succeed, but it stands a good chance) of breaking the chains of the controllers.

****

More later if at all possible (but might well be tomorrow) -

Regards to all and very best wishes, B

[Bill Ryan]

Juat realized that I really need to expand on TheGuy's last question. He asked

Originally Posted by TheGuy

3. Taking everything you've been exposed to into consideration, what do you think(opinion, logical, or intuition) honestly, the next step for humanity is really supposed to be? (Are we supposed to experience "growing pains" with negative events, are we supposed to recognize the bs for what it is and rise above it, are we supposed to transition to another state of being(maybe not physical), etc.)

I'd replied:

I think it's an increase of consciousness that's finally intended (and may or may not succeed, but it stands a good chance) of breaking the chains of the controllers.

Let me add a little:

1) Are we supposed to experience "growing pains" with negative events?

Yes - I think that's part of it (remember that we're all on a training course here)

2) Are we supposed to recognize the bs for what it is and rise above it?

Certainly - part of it also

3) Are we supposed to transition to another state of being (maybe not physical), etc?

Not in my opinion. Growth and awareness, absolutely. Breaking through into a new way of being responsible Stewards of Planet Earth (and of one another) - absolutely. Extraordinary personal experiences by the ton, absolutely.

But Ascension, Transcendence, Evolving to the 4th or 5th dimensions or densities (whatever that means) - that makes no sense to me in any way. No personal offense is meant to anyone here for whom those ideas are valuable and dear.

In my personal opinion, the 'Ascension' myth is a new New Age religious belief system that is rather close to the "God will save us all" belief. "God" doesn't do that (take a look at history) and neither will the ETs, Angels, or anyone else.

We all signed up for this incarnation, knowing that it was going to be a wild ride, and we have to handle it on our own (albelt with quiet and subtle mentoring, coaching and software upgrading from ET friends, and some ETs incarnated amongst us - for sure).

On 1 Jan, 2013, we'll still have to be handling the problems of the world, which will be very real, solid and problematic still. But we may be past the worst of it by then and many things might look more hopeful.

There's a huge amount of rebuilding to do. Has anyone here ever spent time in Africa or India?

I've traveled in Africa a lot. (I spent much of the first 8 years of my life there, and have returned frequently.) Tell those guys that they're going to ascend out of their poverty and disease and hunger. We need to take responsibility for the mess we have all created in this world.

There's a VAST clean-up to do that may take a generation or more. This is where the real learning and growth will take place. We all need to face what we have done.

So: I suspect we've all got our own work cut out for quite a while yet. The Indigos are still coming into the world - they chose their timing perfectly, and won't have missed any party.

The idea, though, is to make it POSSIBLE for the reversal of geopolitical trends to start. I believe this possibility is opening now.

Very best wishes - B

[illuminate]

wow, very well said Bill!
I totally agree with the need for taking responsibility for ALL of our actions.
the little voice inside me has repeatedly been saying just that!
thank you so much for sharing!

[panpravda]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

There's a huge amount of rebuilding to do. Has anyone here ever spent time in Africa or India?

Hi Bill ...

When I was 20 I spent a year in Sudan as a volunteer Electrical Engineering and English teacher in Wad Medani. It was during that time that I saw and experienced things that gave me my moral compass for the rest of my life. I saw children with nothing, absolutely nothing, no parents, no clothes, no food. I saw the hovels of poor families, erected to lean against the walls surrounding the palatial houses of families that had comparatively everything they could need in that environment - yet those relatively rich did nothing for their obviously poor countrymen. These experiences culminated as the trigger in my life to search for the truth of what we really are, and what we really could be.

Pan.

[TheChosen]

Those have been my same thoughts for the last few years, that we are not facing a mass destruction type of event because all those 'indigos' wouldn't come here just to be obliterated by some tsunami wave. (I've actually been repeatedly told in the astral that it is only because of them/us that such a tsunami is not happening)

But I disagree on the direction this will take. I expect in few years the DNA of our body computers to mutate to a sufficient degree so the powers such as telekinesis/levitation/matter manipulation can be activated.. which is what passing into so called 4th density is all about.

This is when the indigos step in with the 'know how' of using those powers in a creative manner. Having indigos in a world where these powers remain inactive is like (using Bill's setting) having the best dancers in the world incarnating on a planet where people are born paralyzed from the weist down. They would never volunteer for such a waste of ability when they could be expressing their full potential elsewhere, the same as they most likely wouldn't voluntter for a tsunami future.. In such a case a relatively much less involved souls would be coming in, ones with experience mainly in the physical 3D world... which is clearly not the case. All the indigos seem to be mainly adept at manipulating energy and are actually having huge problems with physical existence


Still I am actively preparing in 3D for a mass exctinction event. There is nothing to say that they all incarnated with the knowledge that only 5% will 'survive'... just because death means nothing to an advanced soul.. and 5% is more than a good reason if that means the evolution of humanity onto the next stage. And of course, we all know spectacular plans can fail spectacularly.. and that includes the plan for human evolution.

I am sorry for this interruption. I know this is a topic only for questions but I felt the need to share my thoughts on this subject (ascension and what it means) which is I feel THE most important subject we need to be dealing for the next few years.

[Frank Samuel]

Bill thank you for sharing your wisdom. A few years back I met some white children from south Africa who wanted to abolish apartheid with all their hearts, I was so impressed with the incredible maturity they posses at their young age. The rest as they say is history, Nelson Mandela became the president and forgave all of the oppressors. I am a Father of 4 children and I hope that like the children from south Africa that I met so long ago they inherit a heart of compassion to help our fellow man. This mess we have created will take at least a couple of hundred years to clean up. Is a fantasy to think that these problems will resolve themselves without us earthlings taken responsibility to recreate our world. I am sure that like planet earth there are plenty of planets who need help ,in the future it will be our turn to return the favor to our neighbors in the stars

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Bill thank you for sharing your wisdom. A few years back I met some white children from south Africa who wanted to abolish apartheid with all their hearts, I was so impressed with the incredible maturity they posses at their young age. The rest as they say is history, Nelson Mandela became the president and forgave all of the oppressors. I am a Father of 4 children and I hope that like the children from south Africa that I met so long ago they inherit a heart of compassion to help our fellow man. This mess we have created will take at least a couple of hundred years to clean up. Is a fantasy to think that these problems will resolve themselves without us earthlings taken responsibility to recreate our world. I am sure that like planet earth there are plenty of planets who need help ,in the future it will be our turn to return the favor to our neighbors in the stars

Hello Frank, almost exactly what was posted in another thread. I too see earth as a model of collapsed dualities, and part of the mopping up action in this universe in which we will play a part.

Gnosis

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by panpravda

Hi Bill ...

When I was 20 I spent a year in Sudan as a volunteer Electrical Engineering and English teacher in Wad Medani. It was during that time that I saw and experienced things that gave me my moral compass for the rest of my life. I saw children with nothing, absolutely nothing, no parents, no clothes, no food. I saw the hovels of poor families, erected to lean against the walls surrounding the palatial houses of families that had comparatively everything they could need in that environment - yet those relatively rich did nothing for their obviously poor countrymen. These experiences culminated as the trigger in my life to search for the truth of what we really are, and what we really could be.

Pan.

That was also the path of Gautama Buddha. I share this path with you.

Gnosis

[Malletzky]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

The presence of Indigos and Crystals is one of the most important reasons why I do not believe any catastrophe or wipe-out will occur.

Now, I wasn't aware that you feel that way. You know, it's really nice and important to see that you, as a public person, do say that doom and gloom is not likely to happen. This will encourage more and more other out there to search for their truth and finaly understand that WE do not need to fear.

Thanks for this statement...and btw, sorry for not saying hello timely

So now...hello Bill , thanks for your work!

with respect
malletzky

[Dantheman62]

Hi Bill, I'm new here so um where's the bathroom?
Can I get an ashtray over here...geez
Did you get a new hat?

[Surial]

The limited view that God is external and sitting on a throne to save us all is not a realistic perspective. God is in us all. For God to save us we must save ourselves. Dimensional realities are very real and part of Quantum physics. This is real science and not a belief system.

Matter is at a very low vibrational state. Other transcendental realities exist in higher frequencies of energy vibration. Physical reality is even more real in higher densities. To not understand this concept is only limiting your potential.

Regardless of what you believe is true, there are karma circumstances to overall behavior patterns of this race. It is not about choosing sides, creating cults, and dwelling in the muck. Duality, polarity, and everything in between are universal reactions to movement of your spiritual expression. You are alive and you feel everything. And if comprehension of feeling is ignored relying on only processed analytical information, then you are missing the whole aspect of existence.

It is the combination of spirit, body, and mind that gives you balance on a real true comprehension of what is happening. Every person is on a different level of discovering the aspects of the Creator within all of us. Some do not comprehend ascension. Others do. But Ascension is a natural process of spiritual development lifetime after lifetime. You are on a journey.

Whether you choose to believe your path or not is your right. But either way, you will have to deal with the universal laws. These universal laws apply to everyone regardless of belief. Illusion or non-illusion does not apply to energy transformation from one form to another. God is within us and all around.

A camera angle is still a camera angle. But the overall production of the movie has its different actors. And each actor plays a specific role.

When the movie is finished - Ascension - Now it is time to make another movie.

You can look at ascension as a collection of wisdom. The more love you share the more light energy you collect. The closer you get to God the more of this Source information becomes a part of you. It is all our inheritance to fulfill our higher expression of the source in this low 3d reality. But is also your right to hide in the shadows and stay away from the light.

For those of you that do not want to ascend will be left behind of your own choosing to work out your karma. And this is also respected.

However, whether you like it or not, Earth is in pain and wants to ascend away from the abuse that has been laid upon her. If you want to be a part of her, then you must resonate with her. This is also the part of the ascension.

If you choose to dwell in darkness, then the darkness you shall have.

Either way, there are many perspectives of ascension that can fit into your conception. If you are an earth bound adventurous type that refuses to believe in spirituality then enjoy your adventures from that perspective. But keep in mind, Indiana Jones eventually realizes that love is the most important thing in the end.

In conclusion Ascension is a process not an event.

[Cyaneyed]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

1) Indigos: I'm not personally clear whether they're a different kind of human being, a different kind of soul (e.g. from elsewhere or elsewhen), or just a generic term for newcomers who are happily and freely surfing on the wave of the increase of consciousness that is definitely here and building.

The presence of Indigos and Crystals is one of the most important reasons why I do not believe any catastrophe or wipe-out will occur.

If that was predestined or unavoidable or sitting there on some fixed future, they wouldn't have come here. (And neither would I, or probably any of you.) I talk about this in my Freedom Central interview.

2) Tsarion: yes, would love to talk with him.

Thanks for the answers and insights, Bill. Much appreciated. I'd follow up/ask more but this thread is (happily) well and truly inundated and I don't want to take up any more of your time.

Regards,

- Cyaneyed

[truth and integrity]

[ It is dangerous when we see authority for the truth rather than the truth for authority.

Can i use this when ever I want to?

This is most truth i've ever seen here!]

Yes.You can use it. I like this one too because it is very empowering. We give our power away on a regular basis.

[Bloodoftheberry]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

An interesting snippet: Earlier I was asked a question about Hidden Hand's information, and I replied that we'd been contacted by someone who told us that HH's information was 90% accurate but deliberately contained 10% falsehoods.
B

Hi Bill,

Did this person tell you which specific details of the Hidden Hand discourse were incorrect?

[annemirri]

Bill Ryan # 434 page 18

This person who contacted us belonged to a group we'd never heard of before and which I can find no information about on the internet. He was 100% a good guy and we both liked him a lot.

He took us out to dinner and told us that he was breaking ranks as he was "forbidden" (he stressed that twice) to talk to outsiders. The reason he respected our work was because he recognized that we were genuine truth-seekers and didn't seek to make any money out of the information we learned. He was able to get away with his code break because he was very senior in his group and he took full responsibility for his decision to talk to us.

He described his group as a [my paraphrase] an ancient but still-active "benevolent counterpart of the Illuminati". He confirmed that not all the information was lost in the Great Library of Alexandria and that in fact much of it was still intact. I can't tell you how much this intrigued me.

This encounter (which was not recorded) was beyond fascinating and this is one of many projects we're following up. The relevance of this anecdote is that not everyone associated with "mystery schools" is bad.

_

Is that really all that you can share with us in this moment ?

If these guys are 100% positive, should they be given top priority over any other projects ?

How could I, if being "genuine truthseeker", find my way inside their groups and remember one more time "the truths of The Great Library of Alexandria" ?

Do you, Bill Ryan, have pastlife memories of being part of this ancient group,
"mystery school" ? and that is why you felt that this encounter was " beyond fascinating " ?

anne

[UncleJohn]

Hi Bill, you didn't respond to my post on 12/18 page 19 #458 so I'm repeating it.

Uncle John here: Bill, I was very impressed with your Freedom Central interview. I'm very appreciative of your responding to questions and pray you continue this.

For the present, I don't have any direct questions for you, but I do have several points I would appreciate your response to.

Do humans have the freedom or power or chance to change our world for the better? It seems that from your responses, your answer is yes. Currently, my opinion is no.

I believe that offworlders run the show on the earth. My perspective is that the offworlders accomplish this by use of mind control of every human living.

I've posted many times that it is my firm belief backed up with mountain of evidence that a human's memory and consciousness is not located inside their body. The memory and consciousness is actualized by some unknown and unlocated mechanism. It appears that some collection of offworlders has access privileges in this mechanism.

For ten years, I've pointed out chemtrails to over one thousand random people I've encountered. To my great surprise, less than one percent of those were able to conceptualize what I was pointing out. It was exactly like some one has inserted a line of code in their consciousness mechanism such as this: "If chemtrails are brought to consciousness, ignore it."

If humans don't have to freedom to consider a particular thought, then what freedom do we really have?

How can the majority of every policeman and fireman in New York City know that 9/11 was an inside job and yet not one of them takes any action?

Bill, if you or a loved one got cancer, would you recommend following a MD's advice or would you recommend one of the many proven methods to cure cancer that don't involve cutting, burning or poisoning?

I dream every night and I am convinced that my dreams are not choreographed by my mind. Who has the power to insert these dreams into my mind? How is this accomplished? For what purpose if not for controlling me?

[fr66ajc]

Originally Posted by annemirri

Bill Ryan # 434 page 18

The relevance of this anecdote is that not everyone associated with "mystery schools" is bad.

Actually, I could vouch for that personally, having been a member in the past. I left due to personality clashes, which all groups end up with but I wouldn't say any were bad in the temple I was a member of. I know of one 'chief' who was, and it is one of the main groups on the net, but the local temple was not 'bad' at all. (I had doubts about one neophyte's suitability but I left before he did so I don't know what happened). We actually split from that chief and another school was built from those who believed the original order was going the wrong way. I guess you could say the good guys spotted the rot and got out of dodge...

Now, because I never made it to the grades above the veil, I cannot comment on the groups upper levels and what those people were like. I met the new orders chief once and he seemed perfectly nice, I got no bad 'vibes' off of him, although that doesn't make for a thorough character reference.

At the end of the day, just because someone is a member of the O.T.O or the Golden Dawn, or the Masons, or whatever, that doesn't mean they are bad. Maybe the orders chiefs are, but those at the bottom... not necessarily...

My attitude is, whatever path feels right at the time... Some go straight for gold, some take in the scenery on the way. If the group is rotten at the top, and you are not, then you won't progress far anyway, unless you have insecurity issues in which case you could be 'influenced'. But if you have a strong character and a good sense of justice/right & wrong then you should be fine. I have tried so many different things it probably beggars belief. I am like my father, I have a butterfly mind but I'll get to the nectar one day.

==== Question to Bill ====
Hi Bill
Have you heard of the steps being taken to investigate the big pharma regarding the Swine Flu jabs? I hear governments are apparently concerned they were duped into ordering too many due to the companies over playing the threat.

Andy Cook

[fr66ajc]

Hi again Bill

Have you come across any info on Black Elderberry as an effective defense against flu? My partner found an article in a natural immune system booster pamphlet and I thought about the Swine Flu issue and whether anyone had mentioned it in conjunction with D3?

I found this article on line that mentions the Dr. who discovered its effectiveness.

http://www.nutraingredients.com/Rese...u-virus-in-lab

I guess it's worth checking out if you can get a good supply, pity my parents had to get rid of their own tree a few years back..

[Nebula9D]

Peace unto you Bill.

I wanted to know whatever happened to the Project Avalon Library. I have looked around but haven't seen it

[panpravda]

Hi Bill ...

A couple of new questions for you please ...

I've just listened to the interview that you and Kerry recently took part in with Dr Bill Deagle on his Nutrimedical Report radio show. While listening, a particular thought came to me when I heard Kerry referencing a wealthy whistleblower (who she wouldn't identify) who she said, was interested in the idea of terraforming desert areas on Earth.

The thought that came to me was ... if people with substantial financial resources like this, who, through some form of developed personal interest are motivated to talk to yourselves about such positive activities for our planet, while at the same time being aware of the obvious and constant struggle that you and Kerry have to maintain enough of a financial foundation to let you do the global work that you do, and that which you want to do ... then why doesn't that person, or other people like that, ensure that Project Camelot has NO financial worries - ever!?! I just cannot believe that people like that would not have looked into WHO you are and WHAT and HOW you do what you do. This in itself leads to a credibility issue for me in terms of their information.

In my own mind, this would be an easy, painless and appropriate gesture for true supporters who have the means, to make.

The opposite is seemingly the case, where you and Kerry are constantly having to 'beg' the public for financial donations. This leads me to think that the lack of funding for Project Camelot from the financially well off 'so called supporters,' may be based on them only playing at being concerned and useful, while all the time being basically driven by tunnel vision profiteering and materialism. When I say 'profiteering' and 'materialism,' I don't only mean money, for as you know, there are many forms of working towards a self-serving advantage over others.

I am aware that you may feel the need to be cautious about what you say about funding support for Project Camelot, but I do find the reluctance from wealthy, seemingly transformed and enlightened individuals, even covertly, to support your work fully and effectively, to be hard to fathom out. I wonder if some of these 'potential' Financial Angels play with good hearted and committed people like yourselves, just to keep ahead in some game they think they are in??

The second, much shorter question ...

Are you willing to give your personal opinion on why such tragic delays are seemingly being experienced by the victims of the earthquake in Haiti, where for days now, those needy people have watched the aid coming in to the airport, but still apparently haven't received effective amounts of that aid through the UN and US Military controlled process that are apparently in place?

May you Bill, and Kerry, be continually watched over and protected ...

[derpif]

Hi Bill,
I would like to know what your opinion about the alien interview footage from Viktor is, real or not?
Bob Dean said in the documentary that he is convinced it is real, and as he is a good friend of yours I thought you may know more.
I was highly disturbed by that footage btw.

Have a nice day,
derpif

[Ravencalls]

Panpravda> .. Those two Questions are of ~~Superior quality~~.. you made me wonder about quite a few realities now..

Thank you for your input!

[synaxis]

Hi Bill. Thanks again for taking questions on this thread - much appreciated. My present question is about the recent earthquake tragedy in Haiti. Are any of your sources indicating that the earthquake was humanly induced?

Here's some relevant info.

Benjamin Fulford is claiming on his blog (his news & analysis site is now paid subscription) that the Haiti earthquake was caused by a Bush/Clinton Nazi faction using some kind of Tesla-based nuclear technology (not HAARP) with the aim of preventing the announcement of a new financial system (links below).

I had reservations about this, given that an earthquake of this magnitude was expected in the Port-au-Prince area. Nevertheless, Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research has just posted an article with information indicating that

"A Haiti disaster relief scenario had been envisaged at the headquarters of US Southern Command SOUTHCOM in Miami one day prior to the earthquake."

In other words, the US mobilization of aid to Haiti was immediately preceded by the completion of the testing of Haiti disaster-relief scenarios - just one day before the earthquake!

Chossudovsky:

"Upon completing the tests and disaster scenarios on January 11, TISC [the Transnational Information Sharing Cooperation project] was considered to be, in relation to Haiti, in "an advanced stage of readiness". On January 13, the day following the earthquake, SOUTHCOM took the decision to implement the TISC system, which had been rehearsed in Miami two days earlier."

One might think that such an exceptional coincidence would facilitate the delivery of aid, however, strangely this does not seem to be the case. A BBC reporter on the ground in Port-au-Prince describes a scenario that suggests the relief effort is being obstructed. Moreover, he also refers to rumours of disagreements between the US and UN about who is in charge.

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A Haiti Disaster Relief Scenario Was Envisaged by the US Military One Day Before the Earthquake, Michel Chossudovsky, 21 Jan
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=17122

Haitians' despair deepens amid wait for aid, 21 Jan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8471259.stm

Benjamin Fulford blogs, Jan. 14 & 18:

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/b...;る.html

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/b...;る.html
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