Worship Is Not Necessary

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

So much of modern spiritual stuff is based on Jesus being someone special and Israel being God's chosen people. Neither premise is true, both are false.

once upon a time

in a desert of decay

a righteous man

Abraham

found favor in the eyes of God


and as an apple does not fall far from the tree

Abraham was to be the father of a nation

a righteous nation

Israel

found favor in the eyes of God


time turns the pages into past

people do not look up to that they do not see


here is a New Covenant now

for all who believes in the message of the Messiah

and lives up to it

as best as they can

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

once upon a time in a desert of decay a righteous man Abraham found favor in the eyes of God and as an apple does not fall far from the tree Abraham was to be the father of a nation a righteous nation
Israel found favor in the eyes of God time turns the pages into past people do not look up to that they do not see here is a New Covenant now for all who believes in the message of the Messiah and lives up to it as best as they can.

There was no fundamental message of the "messiah". If you're invited to a wedding, remember your oil, or burn in hell forever.

If you don't bear fruit, burn in hell forever.

If you're not ready in that hour, burn in hell forever.

If you're not on the narrow path, burn in hell forever.

If you try to make sense of this, and teach it, good luck. Everyone will hate you.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

There was no fundamental message of the "messiah". If you're invited to a wedding, remember your oil, or burn in hell forever.

If you don't bear fruit, burn in hell forever.

If you're not ready in that hour, burn in hell forever.

If you're not on the narrow path, burn in hell forever.

If you try to make sense of this, and teach it, good luck. Everyone will hate you.

seems to me your mind is bent on hell lol

me suspects you have not read the Gospel


well Im not trying to convince you

but I feel obliged to speak when me ears hear nonsense


Im working on that


in the meantime

please observe silence lol

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

seems to me your mind is bent on hell lol

me suspects you have not read the Gospel

The part about almost everyone burning in hell forever???

Originally Posted by RedeZra

well Im not trying to convince you

but I feel obliged to speak when me ears hear nonsense

Then you should certainly wash yourself of Christianity.

Originally Posted by RedeZra

in the meantime

please observe silence lol

I proved Christianity false. It's up to you whether you accept the fact.

Since most people's ego identity relies on some religion being true, or whatever, they're pretty much hopeless to hear anything different....

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

I proved Christianity false. It's up to you whether you accept the fact.

where did you prove that

what are your sources


voices in the head lol

who's voice


the Church has become a ship without a Captain

a victim of mutiny

sailing under false flag


still there are decent people

confessing to Christianity


for the Captain

is not lost at sea

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

where did you prove that

It's the greatest true story ever told. I thought everyone knew by now.

Go tell it on the mountain, the New Age messiah is here!!!!

[Jonah]

Well...

This is starting to become redundant.... so

If we can all come to an agreement to disagree than that would be productive I think...

If the Christ consciousness was born by a virgin... than ok...

if he wasn't, than that's ok too...

if he never existed at all, than guess what..... still all good...

What is interesting though was how the message came across to so many people it resonates with.

Wrong or right ... I will chose to search my own consciousness for my own answer.. cheers

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Jonah

Wrong or right ... I will chose to search my own consciousness for my own answer.. cheers

Just to really find it, you have to recognize it comes from nowhere and nothing, and it's not "your own" as in an ownership type thing.

It's Her Being.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

Go tell it on the mountain, the New Age messiah is here!!!!

stones anyone lol

[THE eXchanger]

"good god - direct "
susan/the eXchanger

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

"good god - direct "

Time's a wasting, need to get to it!!!

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

It's the greatest true story ever told. I thought everyone knew by now.

Go tell it on the mountain, the New Age messiah is here!!!!

Just for you Messiah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45kt...59BE19&index=6

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Just for you Messiah:

Here's for the Christians...

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

Here's for the Christians...

I'm not a christian

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

I'm not a christian

It's a way to express the basic mentality of it, and the emotional level it touches.

Didn't mean it for you, it was something I had loaded up ready to go....

[WinterWolf]

How exactly did I miss this thread? Oh...probably because something told me opening this thread may cause me to quirk an eyebrow and say, "Wtf?" that little something was right. I did just that.

So now we have a new age messiah...what's next? O_o

Wondering Winter Wolf

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by WinterWolf

So now we have a new age messiah...what's next?

From your signature: "I am born of the stars. The stars were born of chaos. There shall always be chaos, but I shall always be warrior."

I'm the first person ever to observe the universe form the point of singularity in a black hole. AND it is the greatest true story ever told...

Talk about a star warrior, born out of chaos...

McKenna said something about the singularity, around 2012...

And the feminine energy...

This isn't happening in a vacuum, although my soul was mostly a vacuum for about six years...

[WinterWolf]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

From your signature: "I am born of the stars. The stars were born of chaos. There shall always be chaos, but I shall always be warrior."

I'm the first person ever to observe the universe form the point of singularity in a black hole. AND it is the greatest true story ever told...

Talk about a star warrior, born out of chaos...

McKenna said something about the singularity, around 2012...

And the feminine energy...

This isn't happening in a vacuum, although my soul was mostly a vacuum for about six years...

Curious...so you were a singularity inside a black hole observing the universe? How do you know you were the first?

Winter Wolf

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by WinterWolf

Curious...so you were a singularity inside a black hole observing the universe? How do you know you were the first?

Winter Wolf

Because I was helplessly deranged, and completely crippled, ZERO consciousness in my mind. There was no way out. Except I was on a mission in the first place, and I had faith.

No one could have made it, except someone on a mission, with an intention and whose intention was fulfilled, and there had to be a light at the end of the tunnel.

It was EXCRUCIATING life or death agony for six years plus, 24x7. Not to mention the surrounding life circumstances were one of a kind in history bad, and wrong and unjust and heartbreaking to the EXTREME.

Everything was to the extremest extreme, every second, there was no let up, it was 100% torture on every level, 24x7 for six plus years, maybe 7. NO exaggeration.

I went form being a deranged madman, to now I am pretty much a quiet gentle saint, any second I'll be enlightened, and when the whole story unfolds, for what it really is (it does require a fair attention span to grasp) the story travels around the world in the accelerated 2012 evolution of consciousness whirlwind thing, and religion either ends or has no reason to still exist.

But yeah, it was a black hole. And yeah, 100% we are the universe, and everything you see out there can happen in here...

[New Age Messiah]

Also, I had to know that Reality is God, if I wouldn't have known that and accepted the torture, the torment as God working in love, NO WAY, off a bridge immediately, or on meds, drugged into oblivion.

I knew I was right.

I was right about pretty much everything, that an ego soul could have an opinion about...

It's part of why She chose me I guess.

[WinterWolf]

So basically you
are saying you were a rudderless ship that was meandering, possibly floundering inside this "black hole" or religion.

Personally I sort of thnk religion was created by man to help them through the dark times where living seemed hopeless. This concept of worshipping whatever a person happens to believe in allows the gathering of souls together to form a union that would make them stronger together than alone.

This union of people then allowed them to continue their struggle to face another day knowing their fellow is also struggling.

Did humanity's need for something more create the super consciousness or did the super consciousness create us? I liken this question to the chicken or the egg question.

Questions, questions, questions. Endless questions and each fascinating and provoking in some manner.

Yes I digress...

Winter Wolf

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by WinterWolf

So basically you
are saying you were a rudderless ship that was meandering, possibly floundering inside this "black hole" or religion.

No, I was a world travelled highly educated tri-lingual atheletic good guy, three kids, family, house, etc. But not enlightened, and not able to accomplish my highest ideals...

So I declared a mission to go into the depths to find something new.

I threw my soul at the world, sacrificed myself...

"Reality is God, when you pretend or lie, you cease to exist you die," was my motto.

http://www.lookyourheartinthemirror....hronicity.html

The story is there, it's a Reader's Digest abbreviated version; there are stories within the story, and I haven't updated it for almost a year, so it's not a finished product, but it's unbelievably miraculous in an undeniably mega spiritual way...

Originally Posted by WinterWolf

Personally I sort of thnk religion was created by man to help them through the dark times where living seemed hopeless. This concept of worshipping whatever a person happens to believe in allows the gathering of souls together to form a union that would make them stronger together than alone.

This union of people then allowed them to continue their struggle to face another day knowing their fellow is also struggling.

Did humanity's need for something more create the super consciousness or did the super consciousness create us? I liken this question to the chicken or the egg question.

Questions, questions, questions. Endless questions and each fascinating and provoking in some manner.

Yes I digress...

Winter Wolf

Yeah, I think the main thing that I want to emphasize, for now, is that our behavior is innate, it's not learned, and we try to teach people how to behave, and it ends up repressing them.

That's oversimplified, but animals know spiritual truth and so do small children. It can't be contained inside concepts, and religion always tries to contain Reality inside concepts, God as well...

Commands and stuff are stupid.

[carriblu]

New Age Messiah, can you talk about how terrence mckenna fits into all this? also what do you specifically believe will happen in 2012? have you listened to george kavassilas? if not and are interested, check out his grand deception videos not his earlier stuff- I feel like it ties in with you.
(sorry for the earlier posts i was just thrown off by you calling yourself messiah)

I love the motto "god is reality, when you pretend or lie, you die"

i spent about a year studying terrence mckenna's ideas, listening to his talks over and over again

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by carriblu

New Age Messiah, can you talk about how terrence mckenna fits into all this? also what do you specifically believe will happen in 2012? have you listened to george kavassilas? if not and are interested, check out his grand deception videos not his earlier stuff- I feel like it ties in with you.
(sorry for the earlier posts i was just thrown off by you calling yourself messiah)

I love the motto "god is reality, when you pretend or lie, you die"

i spent about a year studying terrence mckenna's ideas, listening to his talks over and over again

In 2012, or sometime in that vicinity... I don't know.

But I think LYHITM is way too radical to be a short term fix for one person.

The Goddess gave me signs. Iran, Pakistan and Israel... Iran (Ahmadinejad) is evil and Pakistan is the dagger and Israel is the appendix.

How that plays out, I don't know, but that's the way to view the middle east crisis right now. The poisonous ideas about God, ordering genocide and animal slaughter, etc. need to be removed, the appendix will burst if Israel doesn't give up its "chosen" status, and if the Islamic people don't drop their insane religion, the entire middle east will likely turn to ash and nuclear holocaust.

My story, I guess, gives them a last chance, maybe???? And we all come under one unifying spiritual message....

I think She's got it all under Her control. She made unfathomable stuff come together, so far beyond the realm of possibility to be by chance...

She's omnipotent and omniscient, She is very angry, and She's cooking.

That you can be sure of.

Earth changes seem like a proven fact. I think much of the land that is now nearly worthless, taken from and then given back to native Americans will become rich and fertile.

As far as McKenna, I think he thought the world was going to end, but I didn't go way into his writings. I think the singularity he spoke of was particularly the absolute proof that we are the universe, that Reality is God, that we all are simultaneously the same living thing, boom...

And tying in with the feminine aspect, is actually what my story proves...

Reality is Goddess. Ma'at of Egypt, the Universe, Reality...

I'll read the guy what you referenced in your post. I haven't yet.

[carriblu]

george kavassilas talks about the symbol with the circle in the triangle (from your story), and he also describes the emergence of the divine feminine as the balancing force for earth in 2012. he identifies with the teachings of jesus but is constantly emphasising the use discretion and how corrupt the church is and how everything has been warped, like you talk about. again, dont go for his earliest talk, go fo either "the grand deception" or "2012 and the divine feminine birthing of a new consciousness "

edit: the more i read your story the more i think you will identify with george