Worship Is Not Necessary

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

in this analogy Jesus came into the world as a full-blown butterfly

looking like a larva lol

lol you can suggest what you want from the top of your head


why would His Divinity make it impossible to walk in His steps

are you not yourself Divine


did He do any superhuman feats besides the miracles and the Resurrection lol

did He not advice how to live to accomplish the spiritual metamorphosis


Jesus came into the world as a Divine Being

our world of men and women with the Divine potential within


Jesus points to this Divinity within us and says


Man how long will you crawl about on Earth like a mere mortal

being tossed around as a victim of circumstances


there is your wings and here is how you strech them

to fly above the confinement of the elements


Jesus does not want our worship

He wants us to be like Him






simply because that was the time of His mission

that was the time to publicly reveal and confirm His Divinity from God

the Divine does not flaunt Itself


Jesus walked and talked like a Man

He is not a God realized being like say Sri Ramana

He is Divine and comes directly from Divinity

the Son begotten of God

Why do I feel I have met you RedeZra?
I am 100% in agreement with you.

(without getting into conception for I do not know)

There would be no point in Jesus coming into this world knowing that he was divine.

He had to start at the same place of spiritual ignorance as the rest of us.
How could he show us the way without travelling it---- all of it?

We did not come into this world knowing our divinity either, we had to be shown a way to realize the Trurh.
The " I am" is the way the path.

All of the spiritual geniuses before Jesus showed the same path more or less, maybe a different way of walking it but in essence the same end result, overcoming the world, being one with the Father.

He did not set himself above us and said that we could do the same and more.


So we are left a difficult path of prayer and devotion.
Prayers is very important or we would not have been given the "Lords prayer"
I am not of any religion.

I see I might be missunderstood.
I believe that Jesus was sent here directly with the mission that he acomplished.
I have no idea when he realised the truth of his mission and who he is. (present tense)

Chris

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by greybeard

Why do I feel I have met you RedeZra?
I am 100% in agreement with you.

I see I might be missunderstood.
I believe that Jesus was sent here directly with the mission that he acomplished.
I have no idea when he realised the truth of his mission and who he is. (present tense)

lol yes not 100% in agreement after all but that's okay I might be wrong


the important point is that He was on a Mission from God

or was He lol


Scripture says so

speculators still speculate

[greybeard]

I accept that Jesus may have known from birth who he was/is.
Now are we 100% ? smiling
Regards Chris

[New Age Messiah]

I guess you guys forgot what I said, Jesus is a made up story.

Just like the many, many other stories you probably think are made up.

Like the mormon guy, and the Mohammed guy, and Mithra, Horus and Zeus etc.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

I guess you guys forgot what I said, Jesus is a made up story.
Just like the many, many other stories you probably think are made up.
Like the mormon guy, and the Mohammed guy, and Mithra, Horus and Zeus etc.

Everyone here, on your list, has walked incarnate, in this world !!!

[THE eXchanger]

absolutely NONE of them,
'in truth' did NOT ask anyone to worship them
like you, they were an eXample
of what you could choose to be,
or, NOT choose to be,
it's a voyage of choices,
with 'free will",
and, it is always about 'energy'

the 'right' energy, is the 'real' magic

[THE eXchanger]

biggest difficulty is that 'the truth'
or, at least 'the belief' you carry about 'the truth'
isn't always accurate

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

absolutely NONE of them,
'in truth' did NOT ask anyone to worship them
like you, they were an eXample
of what you could choose to be,
or, NOT choose to be,
it's a voyage of choices,
with 'free will",
and, it is always about 'energy'

the 'right' energy, is the 'real' magic

Hi Susan
Yes its a step down energy situation.
God at an infinite energy level beyond our comprehension.

God/creator infinite energy within every atom.

There are two types of energy manifest and unfanifest, we are form at the momoment.

Advaita will say "One story is as good as another -- only God is"

We may be concerned on the future of the human race and thats good.
However if the human race becomes extinct then we will reapear in another form in our next incarnation.

Not saying Im right but that is my understanding.

The Buddah said put no head above your own.
All souls are equal.
All spirit having a human experience
All energy manifest.
Chris

[14 Chakras]

I suggest, when we stop being human, and start Being the Christ, that's when we will have solutions for the problems we face here Now.

Is Jesus Christ Divine? Of course.

Did he have a mission to fulfill here? Of course.

Was it easy for Jesus: I suggest he faced the same kind of hardships we do, he worked through it, overcame it and had his God victory.

Was Jesus a perfect child: I also suggest contrary to the myth that surrounds his life that he was in no way a perfect child, he had plenty of stuff to work through like you or I do.

Are we Divine? Yes, but so far (like Jesus as a child), we're not always Being Divine because we're often being ego by not being at all.

Does each one of us have a Divine mission to fulfill here? Of course. Connect to our mission by connecting to your own inner Divinity, our own Divine spark, like Jesus connected to his own Divine spark within, the spark that is in Oneness with All Life including the "Father" that Jesus referred to, All that IS.

Is it easy of us? I suggest that we too can overcome our hardships as Jesus did and Be the Christ, just by Being whatever our still small voice directs us to do next. What is it? That is a Christ decision.

Whatever mistakes we have made in the past should have no influence on whatever decision we make Now other than to have the wisdom to make a better decision Now.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Is Jesus Christ Divine? Of course. NOT

Did he have a mission to fulfill here? Of course. NOT

Is it easy of us? I suggest that we too can overcome our hardships as Jesus did and Be the Christ, just by Being whatever our still small voice directs us to do next. What is it? That is a Christ decision.

You can't do anything by effort to become spiritual.

You can only stop doing what your psyche does to block Reality, truth Spirit, GODDESS Mother Nature.

And you can't stop doing it until your UNDERSTANDING gets DEEP enough and you consciousness is SURRENDERED enough to see what you are DOING subconsciously as a SCARED child AFRAID to the core, or at the core...

STORED fear from early childhood, frozen images, clouded soul by energies not dealt with at the time and subsequently repressed...

It has NOTHING to do with Jesus or anyone else.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

Everyone here, on your list, has walked incarnate, in this world !!!

Yeah, I said that about Jesus, and I'm pretty sure it's true about the others.

They made a ton of stuff up about him after he died. It's just the most rational conclusion from the facts.

If Jesus' teachings were special, Paul would have written about them and elaborated on them.

If Jesus was born of a virgin, Paul would have said so.

Paul's writings are reliably Paul's writings. The rest of the New Testament comes from who knows where; the various accounts contradict on CRITICAL matters of FACT... So they are obviously MADE UP to a degree.

The question is to what degree? And it's pretty easy to see it's all a big copycat from other stories and the teachings were lifted form truisms of the day. Frankly they're nothing special, when you consider all that COULD be said by a great teacher, Jesus said almost nothing. And what he did say was reprehensible, in my opinion (but he didn't say it, that's the thing). They made it up. Heaven and hell didn't exist, God forgot to tell the Jews about it, even thought they were his chosen people....

People are people, all the same essence. Some are "hired" to do something special, I volunteered, then when it got tough I resisted and gave up, but it was too late, I took the step, the leap of faith, and then I had no choice but to be a "messiah" or die.

Messiah being the spiritual action hero to prove the true nature of life and who is really calling the shots, a GODDESS, referred to as Ma'at in Egypt...

I don't know anything about reptilians species or anything related to aliens.

I know people who have told me they were abducted and stuff turned out to be flakes, at least they were willing to lie about other things, quite profusely, so why wouldn't they lie about being abducted???

So far I have no PERSONAL information to validate any claims of ET contacts.

Doesn't mean they don't exist, but I am still agnostic.

[kriya]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

Jesus is a made up story.
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