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Originally Posted by elirien

Yes and it is just your picture. I have to state once again that I am not a christian, neither the lawyer of Jesus but fallacies make me kinda pissy. First of all you give your opinion about this god person in the reasoning of your mind that you have to accept is quite fresh to reality (not that I'm blaming you. All of ours are.). I mean ten years ago this was all fantasy to us.

Sorry to interupt a smoothly going reply , but that has to read "To me..". I have had that opinion for a little longer then that.

Originally Posted by elirien

and now we are here saying "If I were god I would have bla bla". It's like saying "the aliens are not this way bla bla". These
are fatal assumptions and opinions.

But the officiail account isn't? ;-) That is a tad strange, not?

Originally Posted by elirien

It's like giving permission to the cleaner to fondle around a fusion reactor. I am not kicking you around here. It is my opinion that we all are cleaners perhaps even more ignorant creatures on this topic.

Giving permission to the cleaner, in my eyes, is playing with DNA...

Originally Posted by elirien

On your walking on water theory I can give you another perspective. Your points are very plausible but you didn't take into account gravitational force. How bout that Jesus could control the polarity and magnitude of his body's magnetic push and pull forces. That would be walking on water without touching it. Perhaps it is some force that we don't know **** about.

But "immortal" is OUT of the question.. Ah...

Originally Posted by elirien

I think your perspective on these divine occasions are too humane. Too much based on what you perceive is real. This an universe of possibility.

Yes, correct, but it seems that mass has to obey some laws that are equal for all.. Further more, that masses need some guidance to accept their faith as ordered by the powers that be whom in history always were entwangled with religion.. And one more note,, The claim is divine occasions.. Without peer verifiable data. A hearsay of the first kind.. and thus nothing more then that.. Claims. And that is exacly what Thomas stated.

Originally Posted by elirien

Well it does. This page that you have linked to makes this non-credible person a hero.

And he was. The gall to encode in a state founding document a statement like "The freedom to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
Instead of your life belongs to god, your liberty to your government and the pursuit to happiness to the church.

Originally Posted by elirien

Very interesting in two ways. First to see that people think that every despicable person is working for the truth and secondly that people kind of deify such persons no matter if their writing bs. It is debated that this guy is a Freemason which makes me cringe. I mean I'm not blaming every Freemason of being liars but I know that their liabilities lie with some place else.

I don't care whether he was a freemason, a sunworshipper, or the Janitor of the WTC buildings.. It is his writing that counts, not the occupation of the writer.. And yes, what he wrote may have advanced his own "thoughts and beliefs" of course, but that by itself doesn't change the factuality of his statements concerning the Christian Belief system.... I notice there is no URL with the retort of the Religion IN that time.

I guess, They knew a checkmate when they saw one.

btw, "First to see that people think that every despicable person is working for the truth " are you saying here that a despicable person never tells the truth? Or the fact that he tells the truth, makes him despicable?

Reputation your way, for discussing this.