Geprge Kavassilas on the "Divine Feminine"

[Luminari]

George has many wonderful aspects, personally though I could not get over his concrete belief that THE EARTH WILL TURN INTO A STAR soon. I am unable to assimilate that information.. If he said JUPITER, I could maybe accept that as a possiblity, Jupiter is definately a star in the formation stage. The Earth though, sorry that is not possible. Please dont let my words detract from all of your personal views and the other lovely information from this good man.

In resonance,

L

[carriblu]

Originally Posted by Luminari

George has many wonderful aspects, personally though I could not get over his concrete belief that THE EARTH WILL TURN INTO A STAR soon. I am unable to assimilate that information.. If he said JUPITER, I could maybe accept that as a possiblity, Jupiter is definately a star in the formation stage. The Earth though, sorry that is not possible. Please dont let my words detract from all of your personal views and the other lovely information from this good man.

In resonance,

L

actually george doesnt believe it will, he KNOWS it will turn into a star. thats why i trust him, he comes from a place of absolute knowing - he has already experienced the things that are going to happen, in small bits. and i believe that. if you believe that george is coming from a place of experience rather than belief, he coudnt be wrong that the earth will turn into a star. to believe some things george says and not others is to say that his experiences are valid in some cases and false in other cases.

personally, the reason i believe his experiences is because i can see and hear his sincerity in everything he does and says.

[Myplanet2]

I don't know any other way to say it, so I'll just blurt it. Nobody knows the future. Nobody. The reason is that we do not have any set future. The future is determined by us, collectively. So right now, we are looking at a variety of probabilities. But none are selected, nor is any set.

The likelihoods carry certain energies which are invested in them, by the beliefs and expectations, and other causative thinkingnesses of "we...the conscious people". If nothing is done to alter those expectations, or the attached energies, then one of those likelihoods will gain more expectation and energy until the probability becomes the actuality.

But it ain't over until it's over, so I wouldn't rule out any possibilities until the actuality arrives, and even then, with time going a but funky the way it is, I wouldn't be too sure about the outcome.

What do I believe? I believe that it seriously behooves us to watch where we place our expectations and energies, via thoughts and emotions. Law of attraction and all that.

[carriblu]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

I don't know any other way to say it, so I'll just blurt it. Nobody knows the future. Nobody. The reason is that we do not have any set future. The future is determined by us, collectively. So right now, we are looking at a variety of probabilities. But none are selected, nor is any set.

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the reason i disagree is cus i believe in enlightenment. i believe through spiritual practice you can know all things past present and future. i think people have tapped into this in the past, people like shamans, the buddha, christ. there have been people that have gone down the path and come back as all knowing spiritual beings.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by carriblu

the reason i disagree is cus i believe in enlightenment. i believe through spiritual practice you can know all things past present and future. i think people have tapped into this in the past, people like shamans, the buddha, christ. there have been people that have gone down the path and come back as all knowing spiritual beings.

I understand, Carriblu, and don't want to shake up your "stuff", but the beings who have specifically confirmed the veracity of the statements made in my post, don't come any more enlightened, and include beings of the stature of Christ. A 12th dimensional Archangel being one of them, and that's within the last 3 days. If they don't know what's coming, then it isn't known. They do however get readings of the prevailing energy, and see probabilities. That's as good as it gets where belief is concerned, for right now, so we'd best get to work with our crayons and paint and craft paper, and create something we want.

[THE eXchanger]

Earth is a water-world, that star_beings come to
it is approx. 20 billion years old, per The Founders

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

I understand, Carriblu, and don't want to shake up your "stuff", but the beings who have specifically confirmed the veracity of the statements made in my post, don't come any more enlightened, and include beings of the stature of Christ. A 12th dimensional Archangel being one of them, and that's within the last 3 days. If they don't know what's coming, then it isn't known. They do however get readings of the prevailing energy, and see probabilities. That's as good as it gets where belief is concerned, for right now, so we'd best get to work with our crayons and paint and craft paper, and create something we want.

I tend to agree with you. Call it my over-arching ambition but sometimes I like to think that if I process just the right people, and enough of them then I could still, like the dutch boy putting his finger in the dyke, I could still avert some predictions or probabilities. However, there is a sense of urgency from that perspective.

Gnosis

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

I tend to agree with you. Call it my over-arching ambition but sometimes I like to think that if I process just the right people, and enough of them then I could still, like the dutch boy putting his finger in the dyke, I could still avert some predictions or probabilities. However, there is a sense of urgency from that perspective.

Gnosis

yes, and the work that you and many other are doing does in fact work to shift the energies and probabilities. I love that fact that Clif High hasn't been as accurate as of late. It tells me that things have changed between his prediction and the foreseen date. In fact, who's getting any predictions right anymore? It seems no one is. That's great. It could only mean creative beings taking an active role are making a difference. I understand the urgency too, though. I haven't pinpointed the source yet, but I think I've detected a two steps back recently, balance card wise. I don't know what they are specifically up to, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a "move" unfold. Maybe you see something?

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

yes, and the work that you and many other are doing does in fact work to shift the energies and probabilities. I love that fact that Clif High hasn't been as accurate as of late. It tells me that things have changed between his prediction and the foreseen date. In fact, who's getting any predictions right anymore? It seems no one is. That's great. It could only mean creative beings taking an active role are making a difference. I understand the urgency too, though. I haven't pinpointed the source yet, but I think I've detected a two steps back recently, balance card wise. I don't know what they are specifically up to, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a "move" unfold. Maybe you see something?

Collapsed, unfixated dualities/polarities/dichotomies = more freedom of expression = more unpredictability == that's a good thing!

I'll let anyone else contribute to that formula.

As soon as I finish the "chez moi" chain of incidents on myself, my teacher and I are getting back into the fray. We both agree we were doing something to stir up so much resistance. We are a bit wiser now.

Another fella is currently thoroughly clearing the decks at the beginning of our co-existence (yes, all of us together) and for the last few days he has been bleeding off the negative charge of "effort" , and I noticed an increase in the dramatization of effort. Even myself I was focused on not-efforting and undulating instead. That also came up in my own session today.

Right to ask about the source of the sense of urgency -- it could develop into a "flinch". Best to be Prime Mover Unmoved and operate from that viewpoint.

The "see how far you can take it" manic create-create-create with a careless and cruel twist still pervades our body culture planet.

At my truth level the antidote is to introduce more of a feminine essence of gentle undulation. To state that is a Prime Polarity, and restore balance between the two. Full freedom of expression between men and women.

Thus my interest in George and his personal processing of the Divine Feminine with the masculine energies.

cheers!
Gnosis

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by carriblu

the reason i disagree is cus i believe in enlightenment. i believe through spiritual practice you can know all things past present and future. i think people have tapped into this in the past, people like shamans, the buddha, christ. there have been people that have gone down the path and come back as all knowing spiritual beings.

The more creative beings become the harder it will be to predict probable futures. When beings are enmasse dragged around by a ring in their collective noses it is not that hard for an awakened being to "predict" their future.

I'm not being antagonistic to your viewpoint, just throwing another idea into the "bullpen".

best,
Gnosis

[Gnosis5]

George referred to Drunvalo and I Googled and found out that there is a "Blue School" and they teach conscious dreaming. Since I've already started doing this without anyone teaching me it makes sense.

The Hidden Treasures of Dreaming

"Is this true? Can we actually use our dreams to clear our own physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual bodies? To answer this question, we must ask another one: "What is dreaming?" "

[carriblu]

sorry for being defensive haha i actually dont have too many rock hard beliefs, i just put stock in george's ideas cus i trust him is all - i honestly dont know about knowing the future. he's deffinitely going with the ascension thing, which i guess my hope for blinds me

[Gnosis5]

hello carriblu,

Have been up late going through George's website, and you know how one link leads to another link, and before you know it's past one's bedtime.

I have a clearing session tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. and you are invited to be there in spirit. It looks like we are going to be processing a "Divine Feminine" :-)

Gnosis

[carriblu]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

hello carriblu,
I have a clearing session tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. and you are invited to be there in spirit.

i'll be there!

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by carriblu

i'll be there!

You are a good sport. This morning at the end of the session the spiritual body of a beautiful woman with red hair showed up and wanted to have a particular spiritual issue resolved with our help. Was she the "Divine Feminine"? In that session I did begin to address a duality between a beautiful woman and a scary hag and I hope that helped her too.

Wednesday at 10:00 a.m., open house, in spirit only though.

It is so good to be able to love (again), and to see love in others.

evolve,
gnosis

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by carriblu

sorry for being defensive haha i actually dont have too many rock hard beliefs, i just put stock in george's ideas cus i trust him is all - i honestly dont know about knowing the future. he's deffinitely going with the ascension thing, which i guess my hope for blinds me

Another thought for the "Bull Pen":

"As life ascends to one of mastery, it can clearly be seen that time is an illusion. And in the stillness of full surrender one realizes there can be no predictability when there is no time."

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

I don't know any other way to say it, so I'll just blurt it. Nobody knows the future. Nobody. The reason is that we do not have any set future. The future is determined by us, collectively. So right now, we are looking at a variety of probabilities. But none are selected, nor is any set.

Is it possible someone can visit us from the future? Specifically, can our future self visit us?

I recall a session once where we either brought the incident into the present or ignored the usual rules of time and went into a prior existence to help someone.
How does that work?

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

Is it possible someone can visit us from the future? Specifically, can our future self visit us?

I recall a session once where we either brought the incident into the present or ignored the usual rules of time and went into a prior existence to help someone.
How does that work?

The way that works, is that you set aside your time agreements and step outside. Different models explain time in different ways. many now are accounting for the idea of fractal, or quantum perspectives of time. almost like the difference between recording onto linear magnetic tape, or recording to a random access memory, like a computer hard drive, or optical disk. On the one hand, you can't jump around. You have to fast forward through to the part you want. On the other hand, you can access the exact bit you were looking for directly by jumping straight there. The linear one has to be done sequentially, while the random one can have stuff meant to be played sequentially, stored side by side, or anywhere else.

The idea of past/future lives, of same self, vs the idea of different versions of the same self all living a different version of a life at the same time. Both would present as different lives, but in one model some were long ago, or not so long ago, and others have yet to happened, while in the fractal or quantum physical model, all the lives are concurrent, and transpire in an instant.

Since we can recall "past" lives in the linear model, it would seem to follow that we can access our other selves lives from the quantum model as though we were the aspect living that existence we were visiting.

I also understand that paradox has a different meaning, totally, in the two predominant models. In linear time model, paradox results in awkward cancellations of reality, while in the quantum/fractal model, it simply introduces choice. Jumping from one incarnation to another produces a different perception of reality in either model, and this would have to be so, because we are ultimately creators and in control of our own destinies. So no matter which model of reality we were favouring, there would have to be a way of changing things that didn't invalidate existence and result in no game.

Jumping timelines is paradoxical to the human mind in the linear model. I results in questions about whether you'd exist if you went back and killed your grandfather. jumping from one of the infinite versions of the concurrently running universes in the quantum model, to another version, and therefore another aspect of yourself, results in nothing more than a different reality or timeline. You just continue with whatever changes you made in place, or seen another way, with the universe which includes the choices you've just made within it's prevalent and agreed upon reality.

Putting this into some physical representation like a sketch, or clay model, can pop you out of your mind.

[Antonia]

I watched all these video's when they first came out... I had watched all his 2004 ones too very interesting... George claims to have been duped by a fasle Galactic federation..... and he has seen the "beast" so to speak, "A stubern individual".... He is now working with the Federation of Light...
or Council of light ... (I've a terrible memory)..I love his stuff...

I don't see why the Earth can't become a star on some dimensional level... The fact that it might have to pass through the sun makes total sense.. See Nassim Haremien....brilliant asto phisicist... prove the Sun is a massive Stargate..and that to travel interdimensionaly in our Galaxy avoiding lightyears etc.... we need to pass through the sun's center .... pulled in throgh sun spot vortexis and then get shot out along the galactic arms in space time ...not time space....
There are beings who live on stars... they are made of a very different density and combination of elements then we are currently.. but look at 2nd dimesional Salamaders or sprites... Fire entities???
If we are ascending in to some other density then why would our light bodies not be totally compatable to a firey hydrogen envoirnment?
All is posible!! It depends on the futuer we want and envison???
If it's a star, I'm there! if it's water I'm there too... if its somthing totally diferent then woohoo... lets give it a go!

[Antonia]

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Antonia

I watched all these video's when they first came out... I had watched all his 2004 ones too very interesting... George claims to have been duped by a fasle Galactic federation..... and he has seen the "beast" so to speak, "A stubern individual".... He is now working with the Federation of Light...
or Council of light ... (I've a terrible memory)..I love his stuff...

I don't see why the Earth can't become a star on some dimensional level... The fact that it might have to pass through the sun makes total sense.. See Nassim Haremien....brilliant asto phisicist... prove the Sun is a massive Stargate..and that to travel interdimensionaly in our Galaxy avoiding lightyears etc.... we need to pass through the sun's center .... pulled in throgh sun spot vortexis and then get shot out along the galactic arms in space time ...not time space....
There are beings who live on stars... they are made of a very different density and combination of elements then we are currently.. but look at 2nd dimesional Salamaders or sprites... Fire entities???
If we are ascending in to some other density then why would our light bodies not be totally compatable to a firey hydrogen envoirnment?
All is posible!! It depends on the futuer we want and envison???
If it's a star, I'm there! if it's water I'm there too... if its somthing totally diferent then woohoo... lets give it a go!

I can support that attitude. Yes, vortexes keep coming up in my spirit history. Seems to be the favored mode of jumping around. Someday I see us graduating from needing vortexes even, or we will have "invented" something even more elegant.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

The way that works, is that you set aside your time agreements and step outside. Different models explain time in different ways. many now are accounting for the idea of fractal, or quantum perspectives of time. almost like the difference between recording onto linear magnetic tape, or recording to a random access memory, like a computer hard drive, or optical disk. On the one hand, you can't jump around. You have to fast forward through to the part you want. On the other hand, you can access the exact bit you were looking for directly by jumping straight there. The linear one has to be done sequentially, while the random one can have stuff meant to be played sequentially, stored side by side, or anywhere else.

The idea of past/future lives, of same self, vs the idea of different versions of the same self all living a different version of a life at the same time. Both would present as different lives, but in one model some were long ago, or not so long ago, and others have yet to happened, while in the fractal or quantum physical model, all the lives are concurrent, and transpire in an instant.

Since we can recall "past" lives in the linear model, it would seem to follow that we can access our other selves lives from the quantum model as though we were the aspect living that existence we were visiting.

I also understand that paradox has a different meaning, totally, in the two predominant models. In linear time model, paradox results in awkward cancellations of reality, while in the quantum/fractal model, it simply introduces choice. Jumping from one incarnation to another produces a different perception of reality in either model, and this would have to be so, because we are ultimately creators and in control of our own destinies. So no matter which model of reality we were favouring, there would have to be a way of changing things that didn't invalidate existence and result in no game.

Jumping timelines is paradoxical to the human mind in the linear model. I results in questions about whether you'd exist if you went back and killed your grandfather. jumping from one of the infinite versions of the concurrently running universes in the quantum model, to another version, and therefore another aspect of yourself, results in nothing more than a different reality or timeline. You just continue with whatever changes you made in place, or seen another way, with the universe which includes the choices you've just made within it's prevalent and agreed upon reality.

Putting this into some physical representation like a sketch, or clay model, can pop you out of your mind.

Okay, read but not totally comprehended. Hope it sinks in with more journeying.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Luminari

George has many wonderful aspects, personally though I could not get over his concrete belief that THE EARTH WILL TURN INTO A STAR soon. I am unable to assimilate that information.. If he said JUPITER, I could maybe accept that as a possiblity, Jupiter is definately a star in the formation stage. The Earth though, sorry that is not possible. Please dont let my words detract from all of your personal views and the other lovely information from this good man.

In resonance,

L

Yes, that was the first I heard about earth turning into a star. In a PEAT class we did process the earth entity on the duality issue of "big/small" and nothing like that came up. I had an impression that earth might be covered with ocean again.

I think some prophecies say the earth will be "cleansed" by fire (the first time by flood, this time by fire).

I don't know that earth has the necessary raw materials and elements to become a true star. However, we used to make whatever we wanted and did not need to consult a chemistry book

Has there ever been a known instance of a planet becoming a star? I could see perhaps a gaseous planet like Jupiter become a star.

Any input?

Gnosis

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Luminari

George has many wonderful aspects, personally though I could not get over his concrete belief that THE EARTH WILL TURN INTO A STAR soon. I am unable to assimilate that information.. If he said JUPITER, I could maybe accept that as a possiblity, Jupiter is definately a star in the formation stage. The Earth though, sorry that is not possible. Please dont let my words detract from all of your personal views and the other lovely information from this good man.

In resonance,

L

Maybe that's just a nice way of saying it. Not much hope for Earth if Jupiter becomes a star.