Is Death Really A Bad Thing? I want your opinion

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Moxie

I think that death is unnecessary, and why it exists is "beyond" me!
I want God to apologize for it and stop the madness!

I also think that it is rather strange that while we have to eat, something has to die.

I think that God ought to apologize to all and stop the madness.

I don't find a suitable box to check in the multiple choice question.

I know where you are coming from Moxie!

There is a 'higher agenda' and which relates to what clark has said (I'm rather impressed with him and his holistic perspectives on his site).

The key is consciousness and selfawareness in EVOLVEMENT.
There will be a 'time' as written:

1. Isaiah 11:7
   And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
   Isaiah 11:6-8 (in Context) Isaiah 11 (Whole Chapter)
2. Isaiah 65:25
   The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
   Isaiah 65:24-25 (in Context) Isaiah 65 (Whole Chapter)

Here then is my understanding of 'God's mistake'.

This planet earth is 'alive' just as you are. It has a consciousness distributed on many interwoven levels.
There is a 'root consciousness' due to its spacial volume and its mass and there are trillions of feedback loops with all the lifeforms residing on this planet.
So when an alligator eats a fish for example, the 'consciousness' of all participants, earth, alligator and fish (only to name the three majors there is also atmosphere, other fish and alligators etc. etc interacting) - changes via frequency modulations changing energy selfstates definable by 'experience factors'.


Physically, the 'fish consciousness' becomes part of the alligator - remember the saying you are what you eat; and metaphysically the fish 'becomes alligator conscious'.
Somewhat poetically, the 'dead' fish becomes superconscious from the subconsciousness after becoming unconscious from its waking consciousness'. You can call this a 'spiritual transformation' or collapse/emergence of particle-and wavefunctions in quantum mechanical terms.


Now this might 'blow your mind' (however less so than most others not so weird as ourselves) - the alligator's consciousness is root-coupled in physicality to the planetary consciousness {the alligator grew from an egg using planetary resources say} BUT is also coupled to a 'missing part' of 'alien intelligence'.


Iow PHYSICALLY the alligator is an earth creature, but in terms of its NONHUMAN being (defined in the evolutionary decoupling in say mitochondrial DNA), the alligator is an ET.


This is why the earth is quarantined and remains isolated from the rest of the sentient universe.


The so called GENETIC EXPERIMENT of Man, associated with the 'seeding of the earth' is much more profound, than either the 'New Agers, i.e. Annunaki of Mesopotamian lores' or the 'Theosophists' or name it yourself have discerned so far.


Overall in the planetary perspective; Gaia EXPERIENCES the evolution of its creatures as the evolution of herself as a Gaian Family of Living Consciousness interacting with itself.
So the food-chains of the interdependencies serve as a RAW ENFORCEMENT for the evolution of consciousness. Only in eating each other, can the root consciousness grow into its eventual 'self-realisation' of being more than itself ('I am just a self sovereign body' is caveated by: But I cannot live if I do not CONSUME the air (itself alive in consciousness) around and if I do not CONSUME water and food.
Ergo, the construction of the biological body is temporary and designed to CONSUME consciousnesses to further the Gaian planetary self evolution.
Then of course, Gaia is in constant feedback with the host star RahSol and through the sun to the Solar System and through the Star System to the Galactic Systerm and so forth until the Universal Consciousness is reached in the feedback mechanisms (all frequency defined).


The quarantine of Gaia is a cosequence of its harbouring MAN, the grand genetic experiment by a timeless and spaceless 'program' instigated before and through the Quantum Big Bang.
MAN is destined to assume the role of the 'Cosmic Steward'; the Mirror of SuperConsciousness for all other Mirrors, including 'alien intelligences' technologically far superior to the manmade and invented technology.


BUT, the 'uniqueness' of Gaia (actually playing 'God's Harlot Wife' or the DOG who 'ran away' and gnostically the Barbelo of the Afterthought [Secret Book of John] and the 'Woman' in Revelation12) required a planetary environment of superdiversification and a multitude of interacting lifeforms to 'build up the consciousness' in an environment of survival instincts and self-preservation.


I could go on, but due to the 'delicacy' of this information, I shall only answer questions and not just monologue about it - as is usually the case on these forums.

Your question about the 1 in 10,000 is almost right. The critical mass of (human) consciouness carriers actually incarnated in bodyforms on Gaia is 7,200,000,000 or 7.2 Billion inhabitants. This is then 1 in 50,000.
Now remember the Mayan superlong count is 5x13x144,000 kin-days or 9,360,000 for 25,626.8 civil years and so the proportion is 0.0013.
Iow the present precessional cycle of Cro Magnon Homo Sapiens Sapiens 'cocoonisation' for its metamorphosis into StarMan following the 2012/2013 transition nexus; was preceded by a 20 Million year period of 1/0.0013=769.3 such 'precession cycles' (which were of course different in duration due to a changing planetary rotation rate).


So what happened at the geological time of 20 Million years ago?
The GENETIC EXPERIMENT called MAN began in the consciousness of the planet interacting with 'alien' intelligence to SEED the human consciousness for its grand programmed destiny to BRING the alien consciousness (physically on Gaia in the form of alligators, but metaphysically in 'ET-land' in 'outer space') and theGain consciousness together in CONTACT.
20 Million years ago, the Primate Evolution leading to Modern Man began in the oldest MONKEY found in the Miocene. So in terms of fossil evidence, MonkeyMan entered the Gaian theatres and a new lineage, deviating from the primate 'tree of life' began.

In the Ogliocene about 30 Million years ago all primates (lineages going back to about 65 Million years ago to the extinction of the Dinosaurs and the end of the Mesozoic Era) became extinct except in Africa and Southern-Asia, due to the changing climate (sounds familiar?) and the formation of the Antarctic Ice.
Your 'wonderful world' is even more profound than the most daring of utopian futurists have hitherto imagined.

But yes, for any cosmic civilisation to travel intergalactically and extragalactically requires not only a wormhole technology; but demands a planetary consciousness as holographic fractal of itself to 'energize' this technology.

I'll end here, but shall answer questions, if so asked.
John Shadow

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Your 'wonderful world' is even more profound than the most daring of utopian futurists have hitherto imagined.
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iT iS, iT iS ~ there is only transitioning energy

~ no 'real' death

iT iS a tyme, when the so-called 'schooled' eXperts
~will realiSe how unschooled
they actually really are

[THE eXchanger]

you might want to add, another option

~a timeless spark of energy,
that knows NOT iTs beginning, NOR iTs end~iT just iS what iT iS

[mkspllmn]

Yes, the "Death does not exist" option.

Very true.

Maybe " It doesn't matter" comes close.

[G9211]

When death comes I think I will be filled with anticipation. Maybe that's not the right word.... There's almost a feeling of excitement, but I also want to enjoy my time here. I mean, what's the rush? This time we live in is off the wall, CRAZY, scary, exciting, and maybe the way things are is exactly the way they are supposed to be? After all, if everything was perfect, what would be the point in coming here? We could just stay where we were. Part of this experience, I believe, is trying to make it better for others. Learning to cope with hardships, learning to react with dignity, and the obvious... learning to love and forgive. And have as much fun as you can doing it!!

[futureyes]

and seasons change for a reason ...

[G9211]

I'm so excited knowing I'm immortal with this endless adventure in front of me. This is how I see it.... I use to be kind of an atheist but had some events happened in my life and damn! It turned me around! So death is great, it's BIRTH that sucks! haha

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by G9211

I'm so excited knowing I'm immortal with this endless adventure in front of me. This is how I see it.... I use to be kind of an atheist but had some events happened in my life and damn! It turned me around! So death is great, it's BIRTH that sucks! haha

Opps posted this in the wrong browser window please excuse moi

[G9211]

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

welcome BACK I see a few of the gang have arrived the sarcastic remarks are not required you do not have too believe what others believe if you have something else to share please tell the members here what it is we have grown tired of the ridicule game. can you not get over that or HAS IT BECOME A STICKING POINT FOR YOU?

Are you saying I was being sarcastic?

[Humble Janitor]

Unavoidable.

Not sure about desirable but certainly not something we can prevent at this stage of our evolution.

[Northern Boy]

Are you saying I was being sarcastic?

nope

do you feel like you are being that way?

[G9211]

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

nope

do you feel like you are being that way?

NO! but you quoted my post. sooo? It made me wonder that's all. I'm sorry, am I missing something?

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by G9211

NO! but you quoted my post. sooo? It made me wonder that's all. I'm sorry, am I missing something?

sent u a pm and corrected it

[G9211]

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

sent u a pm and corrected it

Ok, just got your pm. Thanks

Like I said, am a newcomer to this forum and was mortified thinking I already offended someone. I'm glad we cleared it up.

[mudra]

We as souls open the door of " life " , walk in and then forget that we actually did so . If we don't wake up to it while we are in there then when we leave it feels as if "life" is closing the door on us and we want to get back there .And so the cycles of birth and death go on until we fully realize our immortality ..our true essence beyond life and death.We are Life eternal .. Birth and death are just a room we visit on our journey and the purpose of the visit is to switch the Light on while being there so we don't stay stuck in the dark .

Death is'nt sad ...the sad thing people don't live at all .

Love Always
mudra

[Tango]

Cradle to Grave, Baby..... But, I don't like to see, the real bloodly one's...

Saw, far to many...


Trooly,


Tango

[Céline]

Death isnt a positive or a negative...it just IS

No matter what everyones personal opinion about it...it will NOT change.


Just like life.

No matter if people think life begins at conception, at birth etc..

it will not change what is IS...

Death Is.

Life Is.


i admire that...just "being"...no need for definition...no need for understanding...it just IS.

[ellie]

I believe it is not up to us per'se when we go, I just want to make sure I am not in trouble when I pass on with the masters. Like I wouldn't want to be in trouble for trying to save my skin by joining some really silly cult who think they know all the answers.

[mkspllmn]

Originally Posted by ellie

, I just want to make sure I am not in trouble when I pass on with the masters.

Do you think the masters control the after life too?

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by mkspllmn

Do you think the masters control the after life too?

iF you make a choice, to allow them, then yes

iF you make a choice, NOT to allow them, then NO

[Spiralina]

Well, I answered the question in that I want to leave when it's time to move on...

If it's not instant, if death is not a result of an accident or a shot to the head.... i.e. If I'm at the end of this experience, I want someone with me whom I love and has developed techniques suggested by folks like william bloom.

http://www.williambloom.com/pages.php?id=15

on another note...

...a friend of mine ( intuitive ) went with a group of ghost hunters to an abandoned nursing home. One's spirit/soul? followed her as demonstrated by a fragrance, my friend invited her to come home with her, and she did!

The fragrance became apparent to her within her own home, so she must have accepted her invitation eh?

Then she opened the door to her sunlit spare bedroom and invited her spirit to go to the light. And the fragrance lifted.

Believe it, Or not.

:0)

This is pretty much how I work with disembodied spirits.

'I burned my cinnimon rolls while writing this'. Ugh!

Kind Regards,

[joe2288]

Death, moving into higher reality,it is like waking up from a dream. As you come

to the realization of all your past lives and goals you hope to seek, the physical

life you just experienced fades off, but you still keep pieces of it which you learn

from. In a sense this holographic life you experience from a view point of your

higher self is nothing more then a learning tool, unfortunately most people it

feels very real when your here and that is hard for some people to grasp. That

is why I believe you should relax and enjoy it and make the most of it,

because seen from higher stand point, it is really just a adventure.

[cantaloupe]

Originally Posted by Spiralina

Well, I answered the question in that I want to leave when it's time to move on...
http://www.williambloom.com/pages.php?id=15

'I burned my cinnimon rolls while writing this'. Ugh!

Kind Regards,

Thanks for the link. It was helpful, as I am dealing with a death right now.
Your cinnamon rolls are in a better place.
Cantaloupe

[Spiralina]

Originally Posted by cantaloupe

Thanks for the link. It was helpful, as I am dealing with a death right now.
Your cinnamon rolls are in a better place.
Cantaloupe

Thank you Cantalope

It's been helpful to me as well.


Warm Regards, Deborah

[mntruthseeker]

Death is sad because its painful for the ones that are left behind.

But I look forward to a better life as being here on earth is very hard. All my life, I felt like it was truly the hell that I used to hear about. Its not so much as I believed in heaven or hell, I just felt there had to be a better place.

I think we are here to find the truth and came here because we chosen to do so to help save the planet.