Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

Stardustaquarion · 01-04-2010, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firedrake

"The peoples of this planet have the right to chose, openly to have all the information...why your masters hide it?"

I am in agreement with this, and do not believe anything can truly be hidden. Illusions and distortions, variations can be made and paths can be led astray, but I feel when one makes the choice of returning to the vibration inside the heart, they access everything within that vibration and any 'information' they want is there.

I can only speak of what I have felt to be true; I am just beginning to really focus on that vibration and existing within it so do not have as much knowledge experienced as many others here.

Thank you both for being here and helping those who read your words and feel your energy.

-Love and Light-

It is a pleasure, I am here to serve in love

Céline · 01-04-2010, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

It is a pleasure, I am here to serve in love

So many...say "to serve love

few remember that We serve in love....

THE eXchanger · 01-04-2010, 06:16 PM

the end goal, is AGAPE aka LOVE
we are here, in full & loving service, to all ~

(this post, has reminded us, to go pull info
from 9/9/2007, the real 9/9/9 and, 10/10/2008,
the real 10-10-10)

we'll gather that, and, post it to this thread, later

Céline · 01-04-2010, 06:18 PM

Agape ( agapanthus)

THE eXchanger · 01-04-2010, 06:23 PM

from dictionary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape

A title of the goddess Isis was agapeh theon,
or "beloved/darling of the gods,"
denoting her role as a fertility/life goddess a
nd her pairing as a partner with the masculine god aspects.

While this pairing was often sexual in nature, the term agapeh implied a genuine affection and deep love for the goddess.[citation needed]

Although some sources claim agapeh appears in the Odyssey twice,
the word is in fact not used.

Instead, two forms of the word agape may be found:
agapêton and agapazomenoi.

Agapêton is found in Book 5 of the Odyssey and means "beloved"
or "well-loved".

Agapazomenoi is found in books 7 and 17 of the Odyssey and means “to treat with affection”.

The verb agapao is used extensively in the Septuagint
as the translation of the common Hebrew term for love
which is used to show affection for husband/wife and children, brotherly love, and God's love for humanity. It is uncertain why agapao was chosen, but similarity of consonant sounds (aḥava) may have played a part.

The Greek concept may have originated as a transliteration from some Semitic tongue. This usage provides the context for the choice of this otherwise obscure word, in preference to other more common Greek words, as the most frequently used word for love in Christian writings.[citation needed] The use of the noun agape in this way appears to be an innovation of the New Testament writers, but is clearly derived from the use of the verb agapao in the Septuagint.

THE eXchanger · 01-04-2010, 06:29 PM

from dictionary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape

agape ~ Agape (pronounced /ˈæɡə.piː/ AG-ə-pee;[1] and sometimes /əˈɡɑː.peɪ/ ə-GAH-pay
after the Classical Greek agápē;
Modern Greek: αγάπη [aˈɣapi]),
also called parental love,
is one of several Greek words translated into English as love.

Many have thought that this word represents divine, unconditional, self-sacrificing, active, volitional, and thoughtful love.

Although the word does not have specific religious connotation,
the word has been used by a variety of contemporary and ancient sources, including Biblical authors and Christian authors.

Thomas Jay Oord has defined agape as
"an intentional response to promote well-being when responding to that which has generated ill-being
In his book, The Pilgrimage, author Paulo Coelho defines it as
"the love that consumes," i.e., the highest and purest form of love,
one that surpasses all other types of affection.

Greek philosophers at the time of Plato and other ancient authors have used forms of the word to denote love of a spouse or family, or affection for a particular activity, in contrast to philia—an affection that could denote either brotherhood or generally non-sexual affection, and eros, an affection of a sexual nature.

THE eXchanger · 01-04-2010, 06:35 PM

AGAPE ~ Transpersonal Love

Transpersonal Love

BY PHIL WITTMEYER

www.michaelteachings.com

So then, what is Agape — transpersonal love?
First of all, the personal self can love but it cannot Agape.
It is impossible for the everyday consciousness that we perceive as ourselves to express Agape.
Only the "transpersonal" aspect of ourselves can do this.
This aspect has been spoken of by mystics and saints and some psychologists and goes by different names
Many call it the "higher self" or the "soul".
Michael calls it "Essence" and says it is the innermost core of our being.
It is the most real part of us and it does not change.
Even though it is described as "innermost",
at the same time Essence is said to be "beyond" or "above"
all levels of the personal self, from whence it observes them all.
Have you ever noticed that deep within your psyche
is a consciousness that watches everything you do?
Have you noticed that it is unwavering and unperturbable,
unlike your chameleon personality?
This is a veiled view of Essence — "the Witness", as some call it.
A clear communication between Essence
and the personal self is said to be "Agape".
Agape happens when the garbage that separates the personal self
from Essence is discarded.
Agape exists in two forms:
contact of the personal self with one's Essence,
and contact of one's Essence with the Essence of another person.
The first is obviously necessary
before the second can be experienced by the personal self.
Michael's teaching is primarily concerned with how to increase
personal love and transpersonal Agape
— hence my title: MAKING LOVE.

And what is the experience of Agape like?

It is not a bolt of lightning in your consciousness,
or a chill that goes up and down your spine.

It is not a tingling in your extremities or a surprise
that takes your breath away.

It is not a thrill in your heart or a light in your mind.

These are all things of the personal self.

Transpersonal love is just that — beyond personal love.

It is a letting go of everything personal,
a relaxation of effort in the personal self.
All the personal cares and concerns are transcended or transmuted.
When the personal self experiences Agape
there is a deep sense of inner satisfaction and contentment
rather than external excitement.

It is the ultimate "peace of mind".

How does Agape do this?

Because it has no emphasis of any kind.

There is no possessiveness nor expectation.
There is neither desire nor fear of anything.
There is neither approval nor disapproval of anything or anyone.
There is neither guilt nor forgiveness.
There is neither encouragement nor discouragement.
There is freedom and responsibility equally.
There is giving and receiving with equal grace.
Its terms are that there are no terms
— it is unconditional, without qualification.

Why is Agape this way?

Because it reconciles all the polarities.
It is intimate but without being invasive.
It is empathetic but without being negatively affected.
It is connected to everything but with complete freedom as well.
It is always appropriate for the occasion
but without ever losing its integrity or honesty.
It has a powerful effect but is never coercive, intrusive, or manipulative.
It is disinterested in the outcome of its actions,
but always responsible for them.

These things probably seem paradoxical to the personal self.
They are not paradoxical to the transpersonal self.

Agape manifested by the personal self has the effect of purifying
all forms of personal love.

Only when we are in touch with our Essence
can we express our personal love without distortion or misapplication.

(that is 'real' agape ~ or 'real' love)

Céline · 01-04-2010, 06:41 PM

That is a sh*tload of copy pasting susan...where are you getting this from?

THE eXchanger · 01-04-2010, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Céline

That is a sh*tload of copy pasting susan...where are you getting this from?

the definition of agape - from a dictionary ~ directly from the dictionary - with NO cut/or paste

(it is referenced on the top line)

the other one, is an article - source is shown within the posting

we thought, that, a definition of agape, might be required by some people

since, a flower, is part of iT ALL, thanks for the picture of an agape flower

Céline · 01-04-2010, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

A title of the goddess Isis was agapeh theon,
or "beloved/darling of the gods,"
denoting her role as a fertility/life goddess a
nd her pairing as a partner with the masculine god aspects.

While this pairing was often sexual in nature, the term agapeh implied a genuine affection and deep love for the goddess.[citation needed]

Although some sources claim agapeh appears in the Odyssey twice,
the word is in fact not used.

Instead, two forms of the word agape may be found:
agapêton and agapazomenoi.

Agapêton is found in Book 5 of the Odyssey and means "beloved"
or "well-loved".

Agapazomenoi is found in books 7 and 17 of the Odyssey and means “to treat with affection”.

The verb agapao is used extensively in the Septuagint
as the translation of the common Hebrew term for love
which is used to show affection for husband/wife and children, brotherly love, and God's love for humanity. It is uncertain why agapao was chosen, but similarity of consonant sounds (aḥava) may have played a part.

The Greek concept may have originated as a transliteration from some Semitic tongue. This usage provides the context for the choice of this otherwise obscure word, in preference to other more common Greek words, as the most frequently used word for love in Christian writings.[citation needed] The use of the noun agape in this way appears to be an innovation of the New Testament writers, but is clearly derived from the use of the verb agapao in the Septuagint.

This is you typing? Yes answers are needed for some...but...take care of yourself..my dear..you must be tired...

THE eXchanger · 01-04-2010, 06:56 PM

it is straight of here:

from dictionary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape

Céline · 01-04-2010, 06:58 PM

Did you see the picture of the agape flower?

i am glad to know you are not typing all that...besides youd have to be a marathon typist! lol

THE eXchanger · 01-04-2010, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Céline

Did you see the picture of the agape flower?

i am glad to know you are not typing all that...besides youd have to be a marathon typist! lol

The proper name for the flower is Agapanthus,
agape is its common name

Céline · 01-04-2010, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

The proper name for the flower is Agapanthus,
agape is its common name

Yes i know...just thought it was a nice visual for your definition...

Flowers are the physical manifestation of Gaias beauty.

Stargazer1965 · 01-04-2010, 07:26 PM

Hmm....Where does a guy who knows none of this start??

Every time I think I know more.....the less is revealed.

I am not a spiritual man and the densities...time lines and such set my mind a whirl.

Can someone help me in layman's terms??

I know we can all be so much more and I feel trapped in a body with no memories.

I humbly ask for some guidance....thanks

Flying Pyramid · 01-04-2010, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Hmm....Where does a guy who knows none of this start??

Every time I think I know more.....the less is revealed.

I am not a spiritual man and the densities...time lines and such set my mind a whirl.

Can someone help me in layman's terms??

I know we can all be so much more and I feel trapped in a body with no memories.

I humbly ask for some guidance....thanks

Read all, hear all, feel all, see all, know all.
Let discernment be your guide.
Contemplate everything.
Discern what resonates with you and you will hear, see , feel all.

Stardustaquarion · 01-04-2010, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Hmm....Where does a guy who knows none of this start??

Every time I think I know more.....the less is revealed.

I am not a spiritual man and the densities...time lines and such set my mind a whirl.

Can someone help me in layman's terms??

I know we can all be so much more and I feel trapped in a body with no memories.

I humbly ask for some guidance....thanks

Basically we live in a Universe which has 15 dimensions, each 3 dimensions make a harmonic universe (HU)

HU5 - the domain of the Rishi (dimensions 13 to 15)
HU4 - the domain of the Avatar where the Kryst is (dimensions 10 to 12)
HU3 - the domain of the Oversoul or Monad (dimensions 7 to 9)
HU2 - the domain of the Soul (dimensions 4 to 6)
HU1 - Where we are

You can start by readin the Voyager I and II books by Ashayana Deane or go to their website

http://www.azuritepress.com/

and explore, there is a lot of information here to under Keylonic Sciences, Anna Hayes and Ashayana

Cheers

eleni · 01-04-2010, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

Basically we live in a Universe which has 15 dimensions, each 3 dimensions make a harmonic universe (HU)

HU5 - the domain of the Rishi (dimensions 13 to 15)
HU4 - the domain of the Avatar where the Kryst is (dimensions 10 to 12)
HU3 - the domain of the Oversoul or Monad (dimensions 7 to 9)
HU2 - the domain of the Soul (dimensions 4 to 6)
HU1 - Where we are

You can start by readin the Voyager I and II books by Ashayana Deane or go to their website

http://www.azuritepress.com/

and explore, there is a lot of information here to under Keylonic Sciences, Anna Hayes and Ashayana

Cheers

I've read all the Hayes books printed thus so far.......here comes my question......how can we prove what she says is the correct information?

Yes, how do you prove it?

THE eXchanger · 01-04-2010, 10:05 PM

personally, we see the 15 or 1-5 - as 6 - a 6th density high astral harvest/ not dimensions

(and, we are NOT sure, why she ties things, that way to dimensions)

we are, NOT sure, what 'ad/h' thinks ....or, bases her facts on

"abraxasinas" what do you think ???

(we know she also utilises, a myriad of newly formed names/and, descriptions for things too)

some of which, we've never heard of

(although, we do NOT profess to be an eXpert on her work- a. dean/hayes/ad/h, work)

there are definitely threads of truth, in it

abraxasinas · 01-04-2010, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

personally, we see the 15 or 1-5 - as 6 - a 6th density high astral harvest/ not dimensions

(and, we are NOT sure, why she ties things, that way to dimensions)

we are, NOT sure, what 'ad/h' thinks ....or, bases her facts on

"abraxasinas" what do you think ???

(we know she also utilises, a myriad of newly formed names/and, descriptions for things too)

some of which, we've never heard of

(although, we do NOT profess to be an eXpert on her work- a. dean/hayes/ad/h, work)

there are definitely threads of truth, in it

Susan the Exchanger - just like Isis eXchanged the lost spiritual phallus of Osiris with the symbol of Grandma Spiderwoman of the Hopi Lore.
The Arachne then wove the web to allow Horus of the Horizon to be born in the symbol of the Wisdomkeeper of the Ages - the Sphinx.
So Isis PERSISTED like OUR Susan does - to do and say and write what she considers to be right and what 'feels' ok.
Indeed she is a 'Keeper of the Secrets' and an ambassadora for the highest feminine, the Creation of the Universe as Cosmic Womb herself.
Susan the EXchanger has become the SHARER of the Secrets of Creation and many of her sisters will follow her into a New Dawn following a long and enduring night.

What do I think about Anna Hayes?
She is your sister and a fellow goddess of the sharing and the searching and the exchanging of the data.
Albeit, consulting the Council of Thuban I am advised that the information is as yet disharmonised between the yin and the yang.
The shadow yang has overpowered the yang of the light and the information tries to be androgenous before its time and without the fulfilment of the Mother's Dream to Love BOTH the male and the female.

Abraxasinas

Stardustaquarion · 01-04-2010, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleni

I've read all the Hayes books printed thus so far.......here comes my question......how can we prove what she says is the correct information?

Yes, how do you prove it?

I am not here to prove, I am not a speaker only a student...the information is available on the website and can be analized in detail

For me is real because I have studied and done a lot of work that has enable me to have direct experience but if you don't have direct experience how can I explain how the Yunasai feels like, there are no words that can convey the love and the expanssion

Also on a practical note, Cliff High, who is rather down to earth; believes we are suffering from magnetic anomalies. Those anomalies have been explained by Ashayana Dean with great detail in her workshops and DVDs

Indeed, Asha has explained even 9/11 and predicted things that have come to pass so early in her lectures is stunning!

All that I can say is that all my life I looked for answers and have studied so many schools of thought and could not make sense of it all and when I found the teachings of the Melchizedeck Cloister Emeral Order, I resonated with them inmediately and it has given me back all what I was searching for: Self love, peace, serenity, etc., and the certainty that I am not abandoned here and I am infinitely loved by my god self...inside myself...all these experiences are personal

The ammount of information that Ashayana Deane has brought forth is stunning, about 1000 hours of lectures that cover so much material that explains so much of how all came to be and which is the way out....

I know now that even if I can not do slide into Urtha I will die and go there anyway for part of me is already there...and it is awesome!

Love

eleni · 01-04-2010, 10:34 PM

Abrax, is there any way you can give a simple explanation of your last post? My eyes are still not feeling to well reading script of such length right now.

If not, I'll try again another day.

abraxasinas · 01-04-2010, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleni

Abrax, is there any way you can give a simple explanation of your last post? My eyes are still not feeling to well reading script of such length right now.

If not, I'll try again another day.

Which post do you mean Eleni; I have answered quite a few?

Abrax

eleni · 01-05-2010, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Which post do you mean Eleni; I have answered quite a few?

Abrax

The one pertaining to the encapsulated writings.

Céline · 01-05-2010, 02:48 PM

Thank you for the parable...it is far easier to understand your point of view in that context.

i wanted to quote your text but there are so many ['s etc, that i had a hard time deciphering it...

i do understand the example you are giving, but i no longer think it applies...the kids in the box have changed.

as an example...

my kids would never have "thrown the sand" and said "mine"...they would have grabbed a handfull, run up to the other kid and said... "Wow check this out!!"

Tom, Dick and Jane... and céline are Different....

These rules..archetypes... do not apply anymore...

*céline puts her hand over her heart closes her eyes*

i can feel it in the rythym ....can you?

01-04-2010, 06:16 PM	#3
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban the end goal, is AGAPE aka LOVE we are here, in full & loving service, to all ~ (this post, has reminded us, to go pull info from 9/9/2007, the real 9/9/9 and, 10/10/2008, the real 10-10-10) we'll gather that, and, post it to this thread, later

01-04-2010, 06:18 PM	#4
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Agape ( agapanthus)

01-04-2010, 06:23 PM	#5
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban from dictionary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape A title of the goddess Isis was agapeh theon, or "beloved/darling of the gods," denoting her role as a fertility/life goddess a nd her pairing as a partner with the masculine god aspects. While this pairing was often sexual in nature, the term agapeh implied a genuine affection and deep love for the goddess.[citation needed] Although some sources claim agapeh appears in the Odyssey twice, the word is in fact not used. Instead, two forms of the word agape may be found: agapêton and agapazomenoi. Agapêton is found in Book 5 of the Odyssey and means "beloved" or "well-loved". Agapazomenoi is found in books 7 and 17 of the Odyssey and means “to treat with affection”. The verb agapao is used extensively in the Septuagint as the translation of the common Hebrew term for love which is used to show affection for husband/wife and children, brotherly love, and God's love for humanity. It is uncertain why agapao was chosen, but similarity of consonant sounds (aḥava) may have played a part. The Greek concept may have originated as a transliteration from some Semitic tongue. This usage provides the context for the choice of this otherwise obscure word, in preference to other more common Greek words, as the most frequently used word for love in Christian writings.[citation needed] The use of the noun agape in this way appears to be an innovation of the New Testament writers, but is clearly derived from the use of the verb agapao in the Septuagint. Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-04-2010 at 06:56 PM.

01-04-2010, 06:29 PM	#6
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban from dictionary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape agape ~ Agape (pronounced /ˈæɡə.piː/ AG-ə-pee;[1] and sometimes /əˈɡɑː.peɪ/ ə-GAH-pay after the Classical Greek agápē; Modern Greek: αγάπη [aˈɣapi]), also called parental love, is one of several Greek words translated into English as love. Many have thought that this word represents divine, unconditional, self-sacrificing, active, volitional, and thoughtful love. Although the word does not have specific religious connotation, the word has been used by a variety of contemporary and ancient sources, including Biblical authors and Christian authors. Thomas Jay Oord has defined agape as "an intentional response to promote well-being when responding to that which has generated ill-being In his book, The Pilgrimage, author Paulo Coelho defines it as "the love that consumes," i.e., the highest and purest form of love, one that surpasses all other types of affection. Greek philosophers at the time of Plato and other ancient authors have used forms of the word to denote love of a spouse or family, or affection for a particular activity, in contrast to philia—an affection that could denote either brotherhood or generally non-sexual affection, and eros, an affection of a sexual nature. Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-04-2010 at 06:56 PM.

01-04-2010, 06:35 PM	#7
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban AGAPE ~ Transpersonal Love Transpersonal Love BY PHIL WITTMEYER www.michaelteachings.com So then, what is Agape — transpersonal love? First of all, the personal self can love but it cannot Agape. It is impossible for the everyday consciousness that we perceive as ourselves to express Agape. Only the "transpersonal" aspect of ourselves can do this. This aspect has been spoken of by mystics and saints and some psychologists and goes by different names Many call it the "higher self" or the "soul". Michael calls it "Essence" and says it is the innermost core of our being. It is the most real part of us and it does not change. Even though it is described as "innermost", at the same time Essence is said to be "beyond" or "above" all levels of the personal self, from whence it observes them all. Have you ever noticed that deep within your psyche is a consciousness that watches everything you do? Have you noticed that it is unwavering and unperturbable, unlike your chameleon personality? This is a veiled view of Essence — "the Witness", as some call it. A clear communication between Essence and the personal self is said to be "Agape". Agape happens when the garbage that separates the personal self from Essence is discarded. Agape exists in two forms: contact of the personal self with one's Essence, and contact of one's Essence with the Essence of another person. The first is obviously necessary before the second can be experienced by the personal self. Michael's teaching is primarily concerned with how to increase personal love and transpersonal Agape — hence my title: MAKING LOVE. And what is the experience of Agape like? It is not a bolt of lightning in your consciousness, or a chill that goes up and down your spine. It is not a tingling in your extremities or a surprise that takes your breath away. It is not a thrill in your heart or a light in your mind. These are all things of the personal self. Transpersonal love is just that — beyond personal love. It is a letting go of everything personal, a relaxation of effort in the personal self. All the personal cares and concerns are transcended or transmuted. When the personal self experiences Agape there is a deep sense of inner satisfaction and contentment rather than external excitement. It is the ultimate "peace of mind". How does Agape do this? Because it has no emphasis of any kind. There is no possessiveness nor expectation. There is neither desire nor fear of anything. There is neither approval nor disapproval of anything or anyone. There is neither guilt nor forgiveness. There is neither encouragement nor discouragement. There is freedom and responsibility equally. There is giving and receiving with equal grace. Its terms are that there are no terms — it is unconditional, without qualification. Why is Agape this way? Because it reconciles all the polarities. It is intimate but without being invasive. It is empathetic but without being negatively affected. It is connected to everything but with complete freedom as well. It is always appropriate for the occasion but without ever losing its integrity or honesty. It has a powerful effect but is never coercive, intrusive, or manipulative. It is disinterested in the outcome of its actions, but always responsible for them. These things probably seem paradoxical to the personal self. They are not paradoxical to the transpersonal self. Agape manifested by the personal self has the effect of purifying all forms of personal love. Only when we are in touch with our Essence can we express our personal love without distortion or misapplication. (that is 'real' agape ~ or 'real' love) Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-04-2010 at 06:47 PM.

01-04-2010, 06:41 PM	#8
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban That is a sh*tload of copy pasting susan...where are you getting this from?

01-04-2010, 06:56 PM	#11
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban it is straight of here: from dictionary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape

01-04-2010, 06:58 PM	#12
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Did you see the picture of the agape flower? i am glad to know you are not typing all that...besides youd have to be a marathon typist! lol

01-04-2010, 07:26 PM	#15
Stargazer1965 Hall Monitor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 733	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Hmm....Where does a guy who knows none of this start?? Every time I think I know more.....the less is revealed. I am not a spiritual man and the densities...time lines and such set my mind a whirl. Can someone help me in layman's terms?? I know we can all be so much more and I feel trapped in a body with no memories. I humbly ask for some guidance....thanks

01-04-2010, 10:05 PM	#19
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban personally, we see the 15 or 1-5 - as 6 - a 6th density high astral harvest/ not dimensions (and, we are NOT sure, why she ties things, that way to dimensions) we are, NOT sure, what 'ad/h' thinks ....or, bases her facts on "abraxasinas" what do you think ??? (we know she also utilises, a myriad of newly formed names/and, descriptions for things too) some of which, we've never heard of (although, we do NOT profess to be an eXpert on her work- a. dean/hayes/ad/h, work) there are definitely threads of truth, in it Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-04-2010 at 10:09 PM.

01-04-2010, 10:34 PM	#22
eleni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 865	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Abrax, is there any way you can give a simple explanation of your last post? My eyes are still not feeling to well reading script of such length right now. If not, I'll try again another day.

01-05-2010, 02:48 PM	#25
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban Thank you for the parable...it is far easier to understand your point of view in that context. i wanted to quote your text but there are so many ['s etc, that i had a hard time deciphering it... i do understand the example you are giving, but i no longer think it applies...the kids in the box have changed. as an example... my kids would never have "thrown the sand" and said "mine"...they would have grabbed a handfull, run up to the other kid and said... "Wow check this out!!" Tom, Dick and Jane... and céline are Different.... These rules..archetypes... do not apply anymore... céline puts her hand over her heart closes her eyes i can feel it in the rythym ....can you?