Yeah welcome to American talk radio and it's descendants. It's very hard to win in these formats. As someone who has worked in entertainment for years I have some experience with these clowning, ridiculing techniques. The only rule is you can say whatever you want so long as it's entertaining or funny, and the only crime is losing your sense of humor. Jim Norton is going to win every time the discussion gets ugly because it's what he does for a living. Unless your a skilled comedian and or can roll with that kind of thing you're better off not going on those shows.
Also comedians,
especially guys like Norton are often borderline psychopaths. It helps to have thick skin when you stand in front of a comedy club crowd. People love these guys because they seem fearless and say whatever they want to famous and seemingly powerful people.
9/11 is a serious topic but on a show like that you have to keep it light. Ventura seemed to be taking the high road at the end of an hour interview but he actually lost his composure. Take your vitamins and breathe deep Jessie!