The PTB are up in arms over Avatar

Machforce1 · 01-13-2010, 12:31 AM

"I don't think most people have realized yet the expansion of human consciousness this movie is bringing.."

You are absolutely correct. This is PRECISELY why the vatican has something to say about it. They have realized it as well.

AscendingStarseed · 01-13-2010, 03:19 AM

At this moment in time, anything that can hasten the awakening or enlightenment of the masses is desperately needed...I haven't seen it yet, but it sounds like something that will help the indigo children to wake up to the magic that lies in the world that surrounds them and how they are One with their world.

As people wake up to our Oneness with each other and the universe, our ability to change the world without guns or militia's will increase exponentially...and that's what PTB are so frightened of. They know that what lies within the collective consciousness is the power to stop them dead in their tracks, without us ever having to lift a finger. Its all in the power of our minds and our intent to change which can literally move mountains, once we Unite.

But they've done a magnificent jog at separating us all into our own little techno-gadget worlds so we're more comfortable with our technology (computers, games, iphones, ipods, mp3) than we are with each other. We are totally disconnected from each other as well as the life that is our planet Earth reflected in nature.

No wonder the PTB are threatened by the concepts the movie projects, especially when it triggers such deep responses from people that it causes them reflect on the meaning of life and purpose of existence. Hopefully it will help to wake the sleeping masses to see through the transparency of the lies the Church has told for thousands of years, the tide is turning on them and they know it. Apparently Avatar is just one piece of the puzzle on the journey towards humanity's ascension, there are bound to be more wake up calls...

happyhollergal · 01-13-2010, 03:43 AM

I can't remember what news site posted an article about this yesterday, but the article claimed that people are committing suicide in record numbers after seeing Avatar. That's absolute hogwash, but what else should I expect to read from main stream media??? I saw it last weekend, free online, and it was absolutely astounding. I loved the little spirit creatures that floated around. The Vatican has no sway with me, so let them claim whatever they will. People who see it will be effected in a very positive way in my opinion. It's surely an eye opener and should touch the hearts of many worldwide.

fitzy3400 · 01-13-2010, 03:51 AM

Quote From Article:

"In a recent World Day of Peace message, the pontiff warned against any notions that equate humans and other living things. He said such notions "open the way to a new pantheism tinged with neo-paganism, which would see the source of man's salvation in nature alone."" End Quote.

WOW, they are really in trouble now. We are all waking up to the realization that all things are one and this compromises their money making scheme and orders of control. I have not seen this movie yet but I do applaud Cameron and the movie. Cameron was definitely inspired to do this film, no doubt in my mind.

I am starting to see an unraveling of things in my 'waking' life and I see how everyone is all over the place trying to keep it 'normal', but this will be self defeating since change is the only constant.

Best of luck to all.

happyhollergal · 01-13-2010, 03:55 AM

(CNN) -- James Cameron's completely immersive spectacle "Avatar" may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ues/index.html

Anchor · 01-13-2010, 04:16 AM

If people were really comitting suicide in large numbers I expect the Vatican would plug it more and get people to go and see it

Instead they realise that the underlying message of the film is being accurately perceived by more than the expected number of people so it needs to be trashed. It wont work, they are not as influential as they once were.

A..

Menkaure · 01-13-2010, 05:14 AM

I saw the movie and it effected me so much, I was crying at one point. Organized religion is loosing so much power that they'll take any chance to elbow their views into the mainstream. The Vatican should put this wasted effort into doing more to stop their pedophiles than criticizing a MOVIE!

"...fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora."

I actually felt this. Every time Jakesully 'came back' I felt a depression trying to sneak in. I wanted to 'go back'.

Here is a way to look at it:
People on this kind of web site believe this universe is infinite. So the number of inhabited worlds, by definition, is also infinite. That means that there IS a world like Pandora somewhere.

futureyes · 01-13-2010, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Menkaure

I saw the movie and it effected me so much, I was crying at one point. Organized religion is loosing so much power that they'll take any chance to elbow their views into the mainstream. The Vatican should put this wasted effort into doing more to stop their pedophiles than criticizing a MOVIE!

"...fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora."

I actually felt this. Every time Jakesully 'came back' I felt a depression trying to sneak in. I wanted to 'go back'.

Here is a way to look at it:
People on this kind of web site believe this universe is infinite. So the number of inhabited worlds, by definition, is also infinite. That means that there IS a world like Pandora somewhere.

i think so too menkaure ...
i believe it's called earth ...

Operator · 01-13-2010, 05:34 AM

I saw avatar a 2nd time today ... not because I wanted to but my daughters and wife did !
Of course I didn't mind though ... it's amazing what you pick up anew the 2nd time

When it comes to aliens, conspiracy, hidden technology, hidden agendas etc. I stand very very alone in my family.
But apparently these films indeed assist in the awakening of people.

One of the inspiring moments is when Trudy decides to switch sides. She locks the arms on her chopper and literally says: "This is not what I signed up for"

There are so many more enlightening moments:

The Na'vi (wordgame on naive ?) cannot believe they will be attacked ...
Not after a warning by word ... then even after they are attacked with gas
Then Colonel Miles Quaritch literally says:
"I don't think they got the message" (

) and then they launch rockets to create more havoc ....

Apparently the 'naive' need to be overwhelmed by 'hard' evidence otherwise they won't move on

LucidJia · 01-13-2010, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyhollergal

(CNN) -- James Cameron's completely immersive spectacle "Avatar" may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ues/index.html

Whats wrong with earth? It is full of beauty and unique nature wonders. Maybe they should get out doors and experience the allure and wonderment that is Gaia.

To many People always want what they dont have and take all that they have right in front of them for granted.

I came away from avatar thinking I need to go out into nature more and appreciate all the amazing things we can experience while on earth.

Namaste, Jia.

lucrum · 01-13-2010, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LucidJia

Whats wrong with earth? It is full of beauty and unique nature wonders. Maybe they should get out doors and experience the allure and wonderment that is Gaia.

To many People always want what they dont have and take all that they have right in front of them for granted.

I came away from avatar thinking I need to go out into nature more and appreciate all the amazing things we can experience while on earth.

Namaste, Jia.

Right on, there is so many beautiful places of our own planet I really want to visit. It may not be bioluminescent, but it sure looks stunning either way!

Now to stop greedy bastards from destroying that of course!

Derek · 01-13-2010, 07:41 AM

Alex Jones (cointelpro, knights of malta) is also bashing it.

PilotSimone · 01-13-2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek

Alex Jones (cointelpro, knights of malta) is also bashing it.

Here's the video for that: Alex Jones reviews 'Avatar'

I can't comment on his review because I haven't seen the movie yet, but am curious what others think of his perspective.

LucidJia · 01-13-2010, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lucrum

Right on, there is so many beautiful places of our own planet I really want to visit. It may not be bioluminescent, but it sure looks stunning either way!

Now to stop greedy bastards from destroying that of course!

I have been swimming in Bio-luminescence in the shores of western Canada. That was an amazing night!

I have been in several mystical glow worm caves here in NZ, very peaceful.

And walked among fire flies in the Malaysian jungles. They actually synchronize their flashes among large groups.

Avatar is not unlike Earth in many ways.

Namaste, Jia.

futureyes · 01-13-2010, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LucidJia

I have been swimming in Bio-luminescence in the shores of western Canada. That was an amazing night!

I have been in several mystical glow worm caves here in NZ, very peaceful.

And walked among fire flies in the Malaysian jungles. They actually synchronize their flashes among large groups.

Avatar is not unlike Earth in many ways.
Namaste, Jia.

beautiful experiences jia ...

heaven really is here on earth ... depends on what we're looking at and how we're looking at it ...

you see the glass half full ... shame so many still view it as half empty ...

in general ... imo ... humanity has gotten to a place whereby nothing ever seems good enough for us ... we continue wanting more ... and unfortunately taking more too ...

more can be found within the simplicity of what is less ... within ourselves and within nature ... our appreciation for both i feel has gone by the wayside ...

and yet ... there will be a turnaround ... many more will begin to have an expanded and deeper understanding and appreciation for the simplicity of what is before them ... what we really do have here on this beautiful planet we reside on ...

Malletzky · 01-13-2010, 10:25 AM

The strongest reaction I've heard/read/saw so far, [besides that suicidal stories] was the one from my son (12 years old).

Soon after we watched Avatar in 3D, he had a dream where he was one of the Natives...He was so excited about his expirience in the dream...and you should've see the spark in his eyes as he explained how he fighted against "the humans" and...defeated the humans was the word he used.

Curious only...after I "remembered" him that he's a human too...you should've seen that spark in his eyes again, even stronger...he didn't felt like being a human, not even in that very first minutes being awake.

His excitement lasted for few days after...

malletzky

TheChosen · 01-13-2010, 10:36 AM

Noone has commented on the obvious yet:

TPB are upset about Avatar not because it is a fantasy of some other world making people question many things. The real upsetting part for them is that it is pretty much a very accurate analogy of life on earth post 2012.. and many people are feeling it deep inside.

The oneness, connection, symbotic relationship, unconditional sharing and love... just read on what life is like on a 4th density planet in the Law of One.. you will find the parallels with Avatar most amazing.

You could accurately say that Avatar is about the 2012 transformation.. personified into a single character (the main lead's transformation from an impaired human - analogy to our current limited DNA ... into a magnificent being)

This is at the same time my answer to those who feel depressed. Wake up.. and you will realize that we will have such a world in just a few short years right here on earth.

Alex Jones is a great guy but still stuck in many things... watch his trashing of David Icke about the 'blood drinking lizzard people' 10 years ago and the analogy he makes.. funny as hell lol. Then watch some of his later interviews with David Icke where you can feel the enormous recently gained respect he has for him... I think he will eventually come around and understand the deeper meaning of Avatar as well.

I said the next day after the premierre on this forum that this movie will do what Matrix did to expand human awareness. Matrix taught us about the system of control and how to break free. Avatar is teaching us about the world we will have once that system is gone... These two movies go hand in hand in so many ways.. but as with the Matrix it will take some time for the deeper meanings to filter into the 'real world'.

dagon · 01-13-2010, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyhollergal

(CNN) -- James Cameron's completely immersive spectacle "Avatar" may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ues/index.html

I guess it was. Im feeling it without seeing it.

01-13-2010, 12:31 AM	#1
Machforce1 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 11	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar "I don't think most people have realized yet the expansion of human consciousness this movie is bringing.." You are absolutely correct. This is PRECISELY why the vatican has something to say about it. They have realized it as well.

01-13-2010, 03:19 AM	#2
AscendingStarseed Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 355	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar At this moment in time, anything that can hasten the awakening or enlightenment of the masses is desperately needed...I haven't seen it yet, but it sounds like something that will help the indigo children to wake up to the magic that lies in the world that surrounds them and how they are One with their world. As people wake up to our Oneness with each other and the universe, our ability to change the world without guns or militia's will increase exponentially...and that's what PTB are so frightened of. They know that what lies within the collective consciousness is the power to stop them dead in their tracks, without us ever having to lift a finger. Its all in the power of our minds and our intent to change which can literally move mountains, once we Unite. But they've done a magnificent jog at separating us all into our own little techno-gadget worlds so we're more comfortable with our technology (computers, games, iphones, ipods, mp3) than we are with each other. We are totally disconnected from each other as well as the life that is our planet Earth reflected in nature. No wonder the PTB are threatened by the concepts the movie projects, especially when it triggers such deep responses from people that it causes them reflect on the meaning of life and purpose of existence. Hopefully it will help to wake the sleeping masses to see through the transparency of the lies the Church has told for thousands of years, the tide is turning on them and they know it. Apparently Avatar is just one piece of the puzzle on the journey towards humanity's ascension, there are bound to be more wake up calls...

01-13-2010, 03:43 AM	#3
happyhollergal Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Rutherfordton, NC Posts: 181	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar I can't remember what news site posted an article about this yesterday, but the article claimed that people are committing suicide in record numbers after seeing Avatar. That's absolute hogwash, but what else should I expect to read from main stream media??? I saw it last weekend, free online, and it was absolutely astounding. I loved the little spirit creatures that floated around. The Vatican has no sway with me, so let them claim whatever they will. People who see it will be effected in a very positive way in my opinion. It's surely an eye opener and should touch the hearts of many worldwide.

01-13-2010, 03:51 AM	#4
fitzy3400 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: E. Islip, Long Island, NY Posts: 33	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar Quote From Article: "In a recent World Day of Peace message, the pontiff warned against any notions that equate humans and other living things. He said such notions "open the way to a new pantheism tinged with neo-paganism, which would see the source of man's salvation in nature alone."" End Quote. WOW, they are really in trouble now. We are all waking up to the realization that all things are one and this compromises their money making scheme and orders of control. I have not seen this movie yet but I do applaud Cameron and the movie. Cameron was definitely inspired to do this film, no doubt in my mind. I am starting to see an unraveling of things in my 'waking' life and I see how everyone is all over the place trying to keep it 'normal', but this will be self defeating since change is the only constant. Best of luck to all.

01-13-2010, 03:55 AM	#5
happyhollergal Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Rutherfordton, NC Posts: 181	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar (CNN) -- James Cameron's completely immersive spectacle "Avatar" may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora. http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ues/index.html

01-13-2010, 04:16 AM	#6
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar If people were really comitting suicide in large numbers I expect the Vatican would plug it more and get people to go and see it Instead they realise that the underlying message of the film is being accurately perceived by more than the expected number of people so it needs to be trashed. It wont work, they are not as influential as they once were. A..

01-13-2010, 05:14 AM	#7
Menkaure Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar I saw the movie and it effected me so much, I was crying at one point. Organized religion is loosing so much power that they'll take any chance to elbow their views into the mainstream. The Vatican should put this wasted effort into doing more to stop their pedophiles than criticizing a MOVIE! "...fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora." I actually felt this. Every time Jakesully 'came back' I felt a depression trying to sneak in. I wanted to 'go back'. Here is a way to look at it: People on this kind of web site believe this universe is infinite. So the number of inhabited worlds, by definition, is also infinite. That means that there IS a world like Pandora somewhere.

01-13-2010, 05:34 AM	#9
Operator Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Caribbean Posts: 375	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar I saw avatar a 2nd time today ... not because I wanted to but my daughters and wife did ! Of course I didn't mind though ... it's amazing what you pick up anew the 2nd time When it comes to aliens, conspiracy, hidden technology, hidden agendas etc. I stand very very alone in my family. But apparently these films indeed assist in the awakening of people. One of the inspiring moments is when Trudy decides to switch sides. She locks the arms on her chopper and literally says: "This is not what I signed up for" There are so many more enlightening moments: The Na'vi (wordgame on naive ?) cannot believe they will be attacked ... Not after a warning by word ... then even after they are attacked with gas Then Colonel Miles Quaritch literally says: "I don't think they got the message" () and then they launch rockets to create more havoc .... Apparently the 'naive' need to be overwhelmed by 'hard' evidence otherwise they won't move on

01-13-2010, 07:41 AM	#12
Derek Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: ogden, utah Posts: 84	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar Alex Jones (cointelpro, knights of malta) is also bashing it.

01-13-2010, 10:25 AM	#16
Malletzky Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It doesn't matter any more Posts: 534	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar The strongest reaction I've heard/read/saw so far, [besides that suicidal stories] was the one from my son (12 years old). Soon after we watched Avatar in 3D, he had a dream where he was one of the Natives...He was so excited about his expirience in the dream...and you should've see the spark in his eyes as he explained how he fighted against "the humans" and...defeated the humans was the word he used. Curious only...after I "remembered" him that he's a human too...you should've seen that spark in his eyes again, even stronger...he didn't felt like being a human, not even in that very first minutes being awake. His excitement lasted for few days after... malletzky

01-13-2010, 10:36 AM	#17
TheChosen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Light Posts: 239	Re: The PTB are up in arms over Avatar Noone has commented on the obvious yet: TPB are upset about Avatar not because it is a fantasy of some other world making people question many things. The real upsetting part for them is that it is pretty much a very accurate analogy of life on earth post 2012.. and many people are feeling it deep inside. The oneness, connection, symbotic relationship, unconditional sharing and love... just read on what life is like on a 4th density planet in the Law of One.. you will find the parallels with Avatar most amazing. You could accurately say that Avatar is about the 2012 transformation.. personified into a single character (the main lead's transformation from an impaired human - analogy to our current limited DNA ... into a magnificent being) This is at the same time my answer to those who feel depressed. Wake up.. and you will realize that we will have such a world in just a few short years right here on earth. Alex Jones is a great guy but still stuck in many things... watch his trashing of David Icke about the 'blood drinking lizzard people' 10 years ago and the analogy he makes.. funny as hell lol. Then watch some of his later interviews with David Icke where you can feel the enormous recently gained respect he has for him... I think he will eventually come around and understand the deeper meaning of Avatar as well. I said the next day after the premierre on this forum that this movie will do what Matrix did to expand human awareness. Matrix taught us about the system of control and how to break free. Avatar is teaching us about the world we will have once that system is gone... These two movies go hand in hand in so many ways.. but as with the Matrix it will take some time for the deeper meanings to filter into the 'real world'. Last edited by TheChosen; 01-13-2010 at 02:46 PM.