This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is...

shybastid · 01-25-2010, 01:02 AM

I did not mean to hijack this thread..And the way I spell,you'd think I was an end result of the California School Sytem.. I kid I kid

I did not mean to insinuate that all teachers in the California Education System Bankrupted California. I DO know teachers that don't care. They want their retirement regardless of the cost. I know people in the Post Office that want their pension,regardless of the cost. They EARNED it. Kinda
I know people that worked at Kaiser Steel in Fontana California their whole lives and found out their pension was worth nothing. And no recourse.
I know a LOT of start up companies that failed..(Guilty)
My Point?
It seems the Private Sector Pays the Bills with Risk attached.
The Government Sector "manages" the risk with no "out of pocket" investment or risk. I don't like it.
AND I don't the like Government attitude.
Only THEIR time to manage MY risk. My dough.
THAT"S WHY the Doctors don't like Medicare and Medicade.
It's NO risk to the PAYED govenment empoyee's.

feardia · 01-25-2010, 01:21 AM

Tango,
I don't know who nancy pelosi is, or what she does, but i think she has a big shout in the USA and is bad news. During the iraq war i was particularly angry every time I seen Condoleeza Rice on tv, but in reality she was no worse than dick cheney or donald rumsfeldt, so why was I picking up on her?

Perhaps its a male thing that we expect women to behave in a certain way, but in reality I am sure there are a lot of guys equally bad or worse, such as Chertoff or even Arnie and guys never single them out for abuse. No doubt nancy Pelosi thinks she is at the cutting edge of the women's equality agenda and she will do what has to be done.

Just an observation.

shybastid · 01-25-2010, 02:07 AM

Yes your correct Gnosis..unfortunatley it is now the constituntional right of every forign government or U.S. business to hire lobbyests to pay for their cause for hire. That means "gloves are off" for any government representative from our house or senate to be "approached" by anyone from any country with a checkbook to be bribed for favors.
Disgusting.
And Bushes and Clintons and Obama's are all to blame.
THEY hired the Supreme Court.

Hehehe I don't want an accident in the woods.
I'm probably wrong.

shybastid · 01-25-2010, 03:04 AM

Sorry... I just got "Its about taxes" quote.
Rediculous

Ever heard of right's of freedom? No, I think WE ALL forgot.

We assume we're going to "asend" from the big bad government.

Gimmee a break.

The Day that Government Employees and Banker Employee's make the most money in MY Country with NO risk........And I'm under scrutiny by the bankers and government employees for MY risk...I'm gonna take a second look at my rights.
While I have any.

Tango · 01-25-2010, 07:04 PM

Nancy Pelosi, is the head of America's House of Representitives... The changes
that take place in the Laws of our country goes first thru the House then
if passed in the House go to our Senate... It has been Nancy Pelosi that fast
tracks the process [Passing these NEW bills, without each house member
having a document to READ] calling for a vote without proper debate of the
issues in the draft of the bill.

Further, this woman granted stimulus funds to companies her husband invests
in... a trooly conflict of interest... And, FYI... I don't really care what one has
between there legs... more importantly it what they have between their ears.
As it was shown; she feels she can take funds and use them to enrich her own
life... A public servant that commits fraud, theft, corruption, a Troo crimmal
and the citizens of California, just let it continue. Allow her to be elected term
after term... Whereas, she NEEDS to be held accountable for her actions...
They ALL do...

NO, its not a male thing... its a Lazy thing... As I said she is a 'progressive '
meaning progress away from FREEDOM... Handing Americans over to the IMF
is the their plan. World Bankers... The state of America, has been planned for
a long time... The REAL power in America is in " We the People "... Here, I
know; that Obama is going to try and take down the internet to STOP the
news of this... But, I believe when he tries the people will Rise Up...

Trooly,

Tango

Quote:

Originally Posted by feardia

Tango,
I don't know who nancy pelosi is, or what she does, but i think she has a big shout in the USA and is bad news. During the iraq war i was particularly angry every time I seen Condoleeza Rice on tv, but in reality she was no worse than dick cheney or donald rumsfeldt, so why was I picking up on her?

Perhaps its a male thing that we expect women to behave in a certain way, but in reality I am sure there are a lot of guys equally bad or worse, such as Chertoff or even Arnie and guys never single them out for abuse. No doubt nancy Pelosi thinks she is at the cutting edge of the women's equality agenda and she will do what has to be done.

Just an observation.

no caste · 01-25-2010, 07:07 PM

Tango - No conflict of interest legislation?

Also, I hear that bills are padded with other bills that slip through a lot.

shybastid · 01-25-2010, 08:03 PM

Yeah Caste..Sliding in other laws and back door deals has been going on since day 1. A lot of us either ignored it,or did'nt know how bad it really was.
But to give 300million dollars to nebraska if they agree to health reform without even having a final version took a lot of people by surprize.
They said "give us the dough and we'll sign anything."
It added additional insult to an already frustrated American.

Tango · 01-26-2010, 02:34 PM

Of course there is legislation for ' Conflict of Interest.'

But, and it's a Big BUT, it All starts with a complaint needing to be filed....

Than, it's handed over to Judges of Law... There, are some honest Judges...
Very few... If they have " Esq. " after their name... Really, they have given
up their American citizenship... They really are members of the U.K.

Lawyers, [Liars] have fuuked up this country... And, it was ALL intentional...
Law makers, in Washington, D.C. Should NOT be able to be members of the
UK's Barristers... Judges, should NOT be allowed to be members of the UK's
Barristers... Judges, should be elected for a term with limits... NOT APPOINTED !!!

Come On... Our president is really, born in a different country... Complaints
filed can't EVEN get a day in court... How, ' fuuked Up ' is That... That's when
you know the system has been corrupted.

I've spent many hours thnking about Lawyers... I don't see any reason for
such a position. They ' ALL ' look for a way to currupt the Law... They don't earn
a living... They steal Money from American citizen's and the system... Lawyers...
Should be made to get a REAL Job or they should be deported
to the U.K. That's where owe their loyalty... That's where they should be...

Who, the hell ever heard of Dual Citizenship... Another Lawyer term... You
either are a citizen of a country or your NOT...

There, is Not a good enough reason to have an attorney... Unless, one needs
someone to shovel SHAT...

Trooly,

Tango

P.S. Next time I'll tell you how I really FEEL... I know we are NOT suppose
to hate anyone... But... But... " Oooh, let it go..."

Quote:

Originally Posted by no caste

Tango - No conflict of interest legislation?

Also, I hear that bills are padded with other bills that slip through a lot.

no caste · 01-26-2010, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango

Of course there is legislation for ' Conflict of Interest.'

But, and it's a Big BUT, it All starts with a complaint needing to be filed....

Than, it's handed over to Judges of Law... There, are some honest Judges...
Very few... If they have " Esq. " after their name... Really, they have given
up their American citizenship... They really are members of the U.K.

Lawyers, [Liars] have fuuked up this country... And, it was ALL intentional...
Law makers, in Washington, D.C. Should NOT be able to be members of the
UK's Barristers... Judges, should NOT be allowed to be members of the UK's
Barristers... Judges, should be elected for a term with limits... NOT APPOINTED !!!

Come On... Our president is really, born in a different country... Complaints
filed can't EVEN get a day in court... How, ' fuuked Up ' is That... That's when
you know the system has been corrupted.

I've spent many hours thnking about Lawyers... I don't see any reason for
such a position. They ' ALL ' look for a way to currupt the Law... They don't earn
a living... They steal Money from American citizen's and the system... Lawyers...

But the USA is the most litigious society on earth !! Even an eyelash in a cup of restaurant tea goes to court. A (scalding) cup of hot McDonald's coffee. What is up with THAT?

Elected judges can be easily bought and sold. Elected vs. appointed... it tilts, too, but any lawyer is married to Lady Law. The set of data is in it. << sounds like a fortune cookie lol

Is there no room for CREATIVITY????????

shybastid · 01-27-2010, 02:30 AM

Creativity? That's what America does best!! We make the movies, we make the Computer content,we CREATE the Computer Content,We EXPLOIT the Computer content,we design HDTV...based on Market driven products..even if we manufacture it out of the country.
We create Music that is loved by the world.
We make the best TV (groan) in 25 languages of reruns.
We design the first generation of new electronics.
We EMBRACE other cultures and ask them to come to OUR Country to learn and go home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY
We LOVE other cultures AND we're creative AND we respect other cultures AND our own.
Don't get me wrong...I'm a proud American and I want to share our expertise.
My Government is slow in learning it's people and what we have offer to the world.
We don't want to control it, we want to share it.

I HATE That.....

Northern Boy · 01-27-2010, 03:11 AM

you left out how great they have become at exporting jobs overseas

all kidding aside those running the country have run it into the ground amazing people when they want to be but in the name of greed it seems she has lost her way

shybastid · 01-27-2010, 03:39 AM

Agreed Northern Boy Sigh

shybastid · 01-27-2010, 04:17 AM

I guess what I meant was..theres an inclusion with a Global Economy and NWO and where Morality and Profit come toghether and seperate.
It seems Nancy Perosi has decided that it's her responsibility to make those choices for the American people because we're:
A) too busy, so trust her
B) too stupid
I resent either of those choices.

NAFTA and Trilateral Commission don't really seem to look at the perspective from the American work forces position,but more from a "Corporate" perspective for the good of the Regions financial position overall.

The original idea was,instead of Jobs and Manufacturering going to the Far East, we would reduce labor and transportation costs by building (Central America,USA and Canada Nafta) Maquiadora's in Mexico and keep transportation costs lower . And keep it in the region.
China and the Far East BLEW Labor costs out of the water over transportation costs.And Labor...........LABOR No Unions..cheap unaccountable labor
Tax Credits fluctuate.
Purto Rico was a tax have for 30years for U.S, Medical Device Manufacturers
Tax breaks ran out...

As tax incentives float from country to country, and labor costs and transportation prices fluctuate,so does Corporate decisions where to build product.
Some products are still cost effective in U.S.,some in Maquiadora's,some off shore. It depends on the LABOR cost.

We need to "retool" our thinking.

A lot of us are Americans on this website.. Others are caring people.

I ask... "For Corporate Profit,Or the Government,or Profit SHARING?"

I say we work toghether.AND we need something people believe in.
Then? we all win..
Oh except the cheap laborers... OK Whats it gonna cost?

no caste · 01-27-2010, 05:38 AM

shybastid - I'm sure with you on the NAFTA thing. It could be abrogated, with 6 months notice. Finished. It was rammed down people's throats here in the day - pure corporatist p*ke. The 'story' was that it would 'create jobs' so now mass yobs in the service industry, clerking it up in made in China clothing stores.

Pfft. Another great thing - hey, I like your list! - about the US is how it throws way more white collar criminals in the slammer than Canadians. Here's a short one. A big scandal with blood supply here, PM's business interests, went way down the Clinton pipe to prisons in [wherever Clinton was guvner], prisoners get a pint drained for $5 or whatever. Next thing the country's blood supply is contaminated with HIV, hep, and so on. Dads die, moms die. Their kids have HIV, ... What happens at the end of that big line is one doctor gets a lollipop, community service. Canada should have those US 'nads!

Whew, a vent

Northern Boy · 01-28-2010, 04:36 AM

shybastid Profit is fine and dandy I`m all for it but in todays corporate climate greed has replaced profit and the only way to accumulate greed is to drive wage and benefit costs down at any and all expense . The cost of moving to third world nations with no labor laws is the abundance of willing hungry workers who will do the jobs means closing down and moving factories is a short term problem knowing the long term gains will be immeasurable

no caste · 01-28-2010, 06:49 AM

Well, at least buddy here in the 5-4 U.S. Supreme Court decision - a mighty dissent from Justice John Paul Stevens...

Who are the other 5 idiots?????? WT(VERYBIG)FUP????

“The fact that corporations are different from human beings might seem to need no elaboration, except that the majority opinion almost completely eludes it…

Unlike natural persons, corporations have ‘limited liability’ for their owners and managers, ‘perpetual life,’ separation of ownership and control, ‘and favorable treatment of the accumulation and distribution of assets . . . that enhance their ability to attract capital and to deploy their resources in ways that maximize the return on their shareholders’ investments.’ 494 U. S., at 658–659. Unlike voters in U. S. elections, corporations may be foreign controlled.

Unlike other interest groups, business corporations have been ‘effectively delegated responsibility for ensuring society’s economic welfare’; they inescapably structure the life of every citizen. ‘[T]he resources in the treasury of a business corporation,’ furthermore, ‘are not an indication of popular support for the corporation’s political ideas.’ Id., at 659 (quoting MCFL, 479 U. S., at 258).

‘They reflect instead the economically motivated decisions of investors and customers. The availability of these resources may make a corporation a formidable political presence, even though the power of the corporation may be no reflection of the power of its ideas.’ 494 U. S., at 659 (quoting MCFL, 479 U. S., at 258). It might also be added that corporations have no consciences, no beliefs, no feelings, no thoughts, no desires.

Corporations help structure and facilitate the activities of human beings, to be sure, and their ‘personhood’ often serves as a useful legal fiction. But they are not themselves members of ‘We the People’ by whom and for whom our Constitution was established. These basic points help explain why corporate electioneering is not only more likely to impair compelling governmental interests, but also why restrictions on that electioneering are less likely to encroach upon First Amendment freedoms.”

Anyway.

Humble Janitor · 01-28-2010, 07:02 AM

It does no good to complain about the politician du jour.

They're all crooks, liars and thieves and I don't care if you like Obama or Ron Paul, they're all the same.

From personal experience, I am dealing with crooks, liars and thieves as part of a state commission. Those are the folks that are really attracted to politics.

no caste · 01-28-2010, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

It does no good to complain about the politician du jour.

It's healthy IMO, like a Tomatina Festival.

hey... I smell Salsa...

Tango · 01-28-2010, 08:56 AM

Northern Boy...

Like I said, Lawyers; attorneys.. They could fuuk up anything... AND, HAVE...

They, ARE the same as bankers... To Me, Slime... Is, it possible to strip the
skin off a Human being....? Naaa, THAT's ToO Good for her... I think I've
said enough... Gawd, she makes me gag... The hag... Fish bait...

Verry trooly,

Tango

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

you left out how great they have become at exporting jobs overseas

all kidding aside those running the country have run it into the ground amazing people when they want to be but in the name of greed it seems she has lost her way

shybastid · 01-28-2010, 02:21 PM

Good thread.. I like it when posters basicly all agree on a topic. Sure makes it easier on my brain. I can understand nuts and bolts reality. I can "see" it.
I get cloudy real fast on some of the topics here in Avalon. I 'want" to believe a lot of what I read...including "disclosure is imminent" but I've been tapping my foot for years now.
I'm pretty sure Nancy Pelosi is a reptilian though. THAT I believe.

shybastid · 01-29-2010, 06:32 PM

I Rest My Case......Check Please...Oh It's On Me

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=123472

Tango · 01-29-2010, 07:31 PM

Nice Find.... Thank you... For posting it...

Tango

Quote:

Originally Posted by shybastid

I Rest My Case......Check Please...Oh It's On Me

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=123472

shybastid · 01-29-2010, 08:49 PM

Sorry Tango... I just cringe when I see Nancy Pelosi on TV. She gives me the creeps. I've never written more in a blog in my life. I'd reregister to vote if I were in her ward to vote her out.
I see your in Arizona...Your welcome to visit here in Tahoe anytime. I'm a great host. Common up.
We almost did a Camelot Conference here in Tahoe last October. I even spoke to Kerry about it. We might do one in May or June.Stay tuned.

Tango · 01-29-2010, 10:05 PM

I, Like the things you post... John McCain (R) AZ, needs to go too as HE is a
progressive... But, She's worse... I say a little something everyday to try to
wake the people of California... I am very familiar with your area... Had to
pick up a CH-54 Skycrane from Reno... in 2000, Tahoe was right over the Ridge.
I've spent some time in your area... Nice.... Know it... Rented a car... Had to
stay a week, while the made the A/C airworthy... Keep up the energy...

FYI: If we KEEP up the pressure " She'll Be Gone."... We also need to THINK
about Giving our Sheriffs the tools to take these Fed thief's OUT.........

You've got My Support... KEEP POSTING.....

Trooly,

Tango

Quote:

Originally Posted by shybastid

Sorry Tango... I just cringe when I see Nancy Pelosi on TV. She gives me the creeps. I've never written more in a blog in my life. I'd reregister to vote if I were in her ward to vote her out.
I see your in Arizona...Your welcome to visit here in Tahoe anytime. I'm a great host. Common up.
We almost did a Camelot Conference here in Tahoe last October. I even spoke to Kerry about it. We might do one in May or June.Stay tuned.

shybastid · 01-30-2010, 02:32 AM

LOL... New Sheriff in Town? Arizona has a good Sheriff unless your a prisoner there. I don't know if I agree with his position of humiliating all incarcerated prisoners there, but at least he has some gonads on a Federal level. He WILL challange his and our constitutional rights as a Sherrif and OUR rights in jail. He "pushes " the envelope. At least it "looks" like democracy is being held accountable.
Me? I'd stay away from Arizona if I were an undocumented entry into my country or a criminal.
But thats just me.
Arizona's Sheriff is a MoFo. AND He's proud of it. AND I woud'nt argue with that doode.
Heh But that's just me.

01-25-2010, 01:02 AM	#1
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... I did not mean to hijack this thread..And the way I spell,you'd think I was an end result of the California School Sytem.. I kid I kid I did not mean to insinuate that all teachers in the California Education System Bankrupted California. I DO know teachers that don't care. They want their retirement regardless of the cost. I know people in the Post Office that want their pension,regardless of the cost. They EARNED it. Kinda I know people that worked at Kaiser Steel in Fontana California their whole lives and found out their pension was worth nothing. And no recourse. I know a LOT of start up companies that failed..(Guilty) My Point? It seems the Private Sector Pays the Bills with Risk attached. The Government Sector "manages" the risk with no "out of pocket" investment or risk. I don't like it. AND I don't the like Government attitude. Only THEIR time to manage MY risk. My dough. THAT"S WHY the Doctors don't like Medicare and Medicade. It's NO risk to the PAYED govenment empoyee's.

01-25-2010, 01:21 AM	#2
feardia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Uisneach, Ireland Posts: 477	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... Tango, I don't know who nancy pelosi is, or what she does, but i think she has a big shout in the USA and is bad news. During the iraq war i was particularly angry every time I seen Condoleeza Rice on tv, but in reality she was no worse than dick cheney or donald rumsfeldt, so why was I picking up on her? Perhaps its a male thing that we expect women to behave in a certain way, but in reality I am sure there are a lot of guys equally bad or worse, such as Chertoff or even Arnie and guys never single them out for abuse. No doubt nancy Pelosi thinks she is at the cutting edge of the women's equality agenda and she will do what has to be done. Just an observation.

01-25-2010, 02:07 AM	#3
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... Yes your correct Gnosis..unfortunatley it is now the constituntional right of every forign government or U.S. business to hire lobbyests to pay for their cause for hire. That means "gloves are off" for any government representative from our house or senate to be "approached" by anyone from any country with a checkbook to be bribed for favors. Disgusting. And Bushes and Clintons and Obama's are all to blame. THEY hired the Supreme Court. Hehehe I don't want an accident in the woods. I'm probably wrong.

01-25-2010, 03:04 AM	#4
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... Sorry... I just got "Its about taxes" quote. Rediculous Ever heard of right's of freedom? No, I think WE ALL forgot. We assume we're going to "asend" from the big bad government. Gimmee a break. The Day that Government Employees and Banker Employee's make the most money in MY Country with NO risk........And I'm under scrutiny by the bankers and government employees for MY risk...I'm gonna take a second look at my rights. While I have any.

01-25-2010, 07:07 PM	#6
no caste Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,375	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... Tango - No conflict of interest legislation? Also, I hear that bills are padded with other bills that slip through a lot.

01-25-2010, 08:03 PM	#7
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... Yeah Caste..Sliding in other laws and back door deals has been going on since day 1. A lot of us either ignored it,or did'nt know how bad it really was. But to give 300million dollars to nebraska if they agree to health reform without even having a final version took a lot of people by surprize. They said "give us the dough and we'll sign anything." It added additional insult to an already frustrated American.

01-27-2010, 02:30 AM	#10
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... Creativity? That's what America does best!! We make the movies, we make the Computer content,we CREATE the Computer Content,We EXPLOIT the Computer content,we design HDTV...based on Market driven products..even if we manufacture it out of the country. We create Music that is loved by the world. We make the best TV (groan) in 25 languages of reruns. We design the first generation of new electronics. We EMBRACE other cultures and ask them to come to OUR Country to learn and go home. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY We LOVE other cultures AND we're creative AND we respect other cultures AND our own. Don't get me wrong...I'm a proud American and I want to share our expertise. My Government is slow in learning it's people and what we have offer to the world. We don't want to control it, we want to share it. I HATE That.....

01-27-2010, 03:11 AM	#11
Northern Boy Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: On this Rock Posts: 1,390	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... you left out how great they have become at exporting jobs overseas all kidding aside those running the country have run it into the ground amazing people when they want to be but in the name of greed it seems she has lost her way

01-27-2010, 03:39 AM	#12
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... Agreed Northern Boy Sigh

01-27-2010, 04:17 AM	#13
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... I guess what I meant was..theres an inclusion with a Global Economy and NWO and where Morality and Profit come toghether and seperate. It seems Nancy Perosi has decided that it's her responsibility to make those choices for the American people because we're: A) too busy, so trust her B) too stupid I resent either of those choices. NAFTA and Trilateral Commission don't really seem to look at the perspective from the American work forces position,but more from a "Corporate" perspective for the good of the Regions financial position overall. The original idea was,instead of Jobs and Manufacturering going to the Far East, we would reduce labor and transportation costs by building (Central America,USA and Canada Nafta) Maquiadora's in Mexico and keep transportation costs lower . And keep it in the region. China and the Far East BLEW Labor costs out of the water over transportation costs.And Labor...........LABOR No Unions..cheap unaccountable labor Tax Credits fluctuate. Purto Rico was a tax have for 30years for U.S, Medical Device Manufacturers Tax breaks ran out... As tax incentives float from country to country, and labor costs and transportation prices fluctuate,so does Corporate decisions where to build product. Some products are still cost effective in U.S.,some in Maquiadora's,some off shore. It depends on the LABOR cost. We need to "retool" our thinking. A lot of us are Americans on this website.. Others are caring people. I ask... "For Corporate Profit,Or the Government,or Profit SHARING?" I say we work toghether.AND we need something people believe in. Then? we all win.. Oh except the cheap laborers... OK Whats it gonna cost?

01-27-2010, 05:38 AM	#14
no caste Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,375	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... shybastid - I'm sure with you on the NAFTA thing. It could be abrogated, with 6 months notice. Finished. It was rammed down people's throats here in the day - pure corporatist pke. The 'story' was that it would 'create jobs' so now mass yobs in the service industry, clerking it up in made in China clothing stores. Pfft. Another great* thing - hey, I like your list! - about the US is how it throws way more white collar criminals in the slammer than Canadians. Here's a short one. A big scandal with blood supply here, PM's business interests, went way down the Clinton pipe to prisons in [wherever Clinton was guvner], prisoners get a pint drained for $5 or whatever. Next thing the country's blood supply is contaminated with HIV, hep, and so on. Dads die, moms die. Their kids have HIV, ... What happens at the end of that big line is one doctor gets a lollipop, community service. Canada should have those US 'nads! Whew, a vent Last edited by no caste; 01-27-2010 at 05:43 AM.

01-28-2010, 04:36 AM	#15
Northern Boy Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: On this Rock Posts: 1,390	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... shybastid Profit is fine and dandy I`m all for it but in todays corporate climate greed has replaced profit and the only way to accumulate greed is to drive wage and benefit costs down at any and all expense . The cost of moving to third world nations with no labor laws is the abundance of willing hungry workers who will do the jobs means closing down and moving factories is a short term problem knowing the long term gains will be immeasurable

01-28-2010, 06:49 AM	#16
no caste Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,375	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... Well, at least buddy here in the 5-4 U.S. Supreme Court decision - a mighty dissent from Justice John Paul Stevens... Who are the other 5 idiots?????? WT(VERYBIG)FUP???? “The fact that corporations are different from human beings might seem to need no elaboration, except that the majority opinion almost completely eludes it… Unlike natural persons, corporations have ‘limited liability’ for their owners and managers, ‘perpetual life,’ separation of ownership and control, ‘and favorable treatment of the accumulation and distribution of assets . . . that enhance their ability to attract capital and to deploy their resources in ways that maximize the return on their shareholders’ investments.’ 494 U. S., at 658–659. Unlike voters in U. S. elections, corporations may be foreign controlled. Unlike other interest groups, business corporations have been ‘effectively delegated responsibility for ensuring society’s economic welfare’; they inescapably structure the life of every citizen. ‘[T]he resources in the treasury of a business corporation,’ furthermore, ‘are not an indication of popular support for the corporation’s political ideas.’ Id., at 659 (quoting MCFL, 479 U. S., at 258). ‘They reflect instead the economically motivated decisions of investors and customers. The availability of these resources may make a corporation a formidable political presence, even though the power of the corporation may be no reflection of the power of its ideas.’ 494 U. S., at 659 (quoting MCFL, 479 U. S., at 258). It might also be added that corporations have no consciences, no beliefs, no feelings, no thoughts, no desires. Corporations help structure and facilitate the activities of human beings, to be sure, and their ‘personhood’ often serves as a useful legal fiction. But they are not themselves members of ‘We the People’ by whom and for whom our Constitution was established. These basic points help explain why corporate electioneering is not only more likely to impair compelling governmental interests, but also why restrictions on that electioneering are less likely to encroach upon First Amendment freedoms.” Anyway.

01-28-2010, 07:02 AM	#17
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... It does no good to complain about the politician du jour. They're all crooks, liars and thieves and I don't care if you like Obama or Ron Paul, they're all the same. From personal experience, I am dealing with crooks, liars and thieves as part of a state commission. Those are the folks that are really attracted to politics.

01-28-2010, 02:21 PM	#20
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... Good thread.. I like it when posters basicly all agree on a topic. Sure makes it easier on my brain. I can understand nuts and bolts reality. I can "see" it. I get cloudy real fast on some of the topics here in Avalon. I 'want" to believe a lot of what I read...including "disclosure is imminent" but I've been tapping my foot for years now. I'm pretty sure Nancy Pelosi is a reptilian though. THAT I believe.

01-29-2010, 06:32 PM	#21
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... I Rest My Case......Check Please...Oh It's On Me http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=123472

01-29-2010, 08:49 PM	#23
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... Sorry Tango... I just cringe when I see Nancy Pelosi on TV. She gives me the creeps. I've never written more in a blog in my life. I'd reregister to vote if I were in her ward to vote her out. I see your in Arizona...Your welcome to visit here in Tahoe anytime. I'm a great host. Common up. We almost did a Camelot Conference here in Tahoe last October. I even spoke to Kerry about it. We might do one in May or June.Stay tuned.

01-30-2010, 02:32 AM	#25
shybastid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 145	Re: This one is titled Pelosi... What a horrible woman she is... LOL... New Sheriff in Town? Arizona has a good Sheriff unless your a prisoner there. I don't know if I agree with his position of humiliating all incarcerated prisoners there, but at least he has some gonads on a Federal level. He WILL challange his and our constitutional rights as a Sherrif and OUR rights in jail. He "pushes " the envelope. At least it "looks" like democracy is being held accountable. Me? I'd stay away from Arizona if I were an undocumented entry into my country or a criminal. But thats just me. Arizona's Sheriff is a MoFo. AND He's proud of it. AND I woud'nt argue with that doode. Heh But that's just me.