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Old 01-26-2010, 02:29 PM   #1
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Default Re: Scientologists 'heal' Haiti quake victims using touch!!

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Regardless of the creed followed, scientology or whatever, the intent to heal together with some kind of physical guesture (which reinforces and communicates) is bound to work at some levels.
The fact that this method has a scientology "branding" does not invalidate it.
Anyone can do this (and should!)
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That just simply is not true. Where are the studies that show this sort of thing works? There aren't any that I know of. My personal studies and experience of many years has proven to me that "laying on of hands" and other such healing practices simply do not work. In fact there are studies that show that praying for people doesn't actually work. See the Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP)

The real point I'd like to make is that promoting, encouraging, or validating Scientology in any way whatsoever ignores the true origin, history, and facts about Scientology that have come to light in recent years and is my view a highly irresponsible and dangerous thing to do.

No Haitian will be "healed" through Scientology or any other pseudo-science or woo-woo. They'll be healed by trained medical professionals applying proven medial science. Praying for the people in Haiti only effects the person praying and it does so by presenting the illusion of actually doing something useful. The truth is that the situation will only respond to practical solutions and methods.

Doctors, Firemen, EMTs, Structural Engineers, Logistics experts, ... these are the kinds people that are needed in Haiti. Haiti will have to completely rethought and rebuilt, a truly monumental task is ahead of them. I sincerely hope that the people of Haiti are not further victimized by opportunistic organizations like the Church of Scientology in the process but they undoubtedly will.
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Old 01-26-2010, 02:39 PM   #2
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The fact that there are material concerns, doesn't in anyway negate that there are spiritual ones as well.

The thing about being polarized in ones view, is that you can't be "on a side" unless you can conceive of "the other side".

There is a third option. Moving above judgement and the taking of sides, and try on the viewpoint so beautifully described by Mudra above.
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Old 01-26-2010, 02:57 PM   #3
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Everything is energy and vibrations and will respond to the spiritual quality of Love .
Love has no bounderies and does'nt require a physical contact to create an effect.



Love Always
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Old 01-26-2010, 06:04 PM   #4
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There is some studies on this method... I am in the medical field... I have seen pain go away from a child who has the warmth of his mothers hands on him... many times...
http://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/.../healing-touch
http://nccam.nih.gov/news/camstats/2...survey_fs1.htm

The goal of Healing Touch is to purposefully use the energetic interaction between the Healing Touch practitioner and the patient to restore harmony to the patient's energy system.


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That just simply is not true. Where are the studies that show this sort of thing works? There aren't any that I know of. My personal studies and experience of many years has proven to me that "laying on of hands" and other such healing practices simply do not work. In fact there are studies that show that praying for people doesn't actually work. See the Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP)

The real point I'd like to make is that promoting, encouraging, or validating Scientology in any way whatsoever ignores the true origin, history, and facts about Scientology that have come to light in recent years and is my view a highly irresponsible and dangerous thing to do.

No Haitian will be "healed" through Scientology or any other pseudo-science or woo-woo. They'll be healed by trained medical professionals applying proven medial science. Praying for the people in Haiti only effects the person praying and it does so by presenting the illusion of actually doing something useful. The truth is that the situation will only respond to practical solutions and methods.

Doctors, Firemen, EMTs, Structural Engineers, Logistics experts, ... these are the kinds people that are needed in Haiti. Haiti will have to completely rethought and rebuilt, a truly monumental task is ahead of them. I sincerely hope that the people of Haiti are not further victimized by opportunistic organizations like the Church of Scientology in the process but they undoubtedly will.
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Old 01-26-2010, 06:40 PM   #5
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I have seen pain go away from a child who has the warmth of his mothers hands on him... many times...
As a mother i can attest tot hat as well..

i also dabbled in training as an assistant midwife...

A newborns core body temperature will rise when kept close to its mother...

i know this isnt a "healing" technique...but..

When you are hurting, inside, crying..sad...why does a hug help ? (for most people)

Because..touch is healing...

Sex priestesses and priests know the importance of sexual touch as a healing tool...

this society could not handle it though sadly
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