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Old 01-28-2010, 05:29 AM   #1
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A most interesting question, sjkted!...ranma187 - thanks for the Credo Mutwa reference.

It has always seemed to me that the Tower of Babel was about humankind reaching a technological level where it threatened to break its earthbound quarantine to become a space faring race. This is just speculation, but perhaps our telepathic connectedness was the original internet, which enabled us to develop very quickly. Therefore, the lesser gods who were in a sense charged with overseeing our development had to intervene to dumb us down by fusing our DNA en masse?!!!
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:10 AM   #2
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If you wanted to genetically alter the human race, all you would have to do is remove the ova from the females and implant the required genetic change. Place an enmity between the seed as stated in the bible. The ova within females are produced before birth(I believe) and stored in the ovaries unto puberty, where they are then released into the fallopian tubes for fertilization, monthly. There is a limited supply of ova, whereas sperm seems to be unlimited, and produced as required. All the creation myths point to such an intervention of our species. In the beginning of our creation it would be likely that humans where limited geographically and in population. Given this scenario collection of females for genetic manipulation would not be difficult. If the ovaries where completely removed and the ova extracted and artificially inseminated and then implanted manually. The original humans would become extinct and the newly manipulated ovas would become the surviving race.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:41 AM   #3
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If you wanted to genetically alter the human race, all you would have to do is remove the ova from the females and implant the required genetic change. Place an enmity between the seed as stated in the bible. The ova within females are produced before birth(I believe) and stored in the ovaries unto puberty, where they are then released into the fallopian tubes for fertilization, monthly. There is a limited supply of ova, whereas sperm seems to be unlimited, and produced as required. All the creation myths point to such an intervention of our species. In the beginning of our creation it would be likely that humans where limited geographically and in population. Given this scenario collection of females for genetic manipulation would not be difficult. If the ovaries where completely removed and the ova extracted and artificially inseminated and then implanted manually. The original humans would become extinct and the newly manipulated ovas would become the surviving race.
That makes sense. I remember that part about enmity between seed. So, you're saying they gathered up all the women and the people who were alive would not have had DNA modification/mutation, but that it would be the next generation?

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Old 01-28-2010, 09:37 AM   #4
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If you wanted to genetically alter the human race, all you would have to do is remove the ova from the females and implant the required genetic change. Place an enmity between the seed as stated in the bible. The ova within females are produced before birth(I believe) and stored in the ovaries unto puberty, where they are then released into the fallopian tubes for fertilization, monthly. There is a limited supply of ova, whereas sperm seems to be unlimited, and produced as required. All the creation myths point to such an intervention of our species. In the beginning of our creation it would be likely that humans where limited geographically and in population. Given this scenario collection of females for genetic manipulation would not be difficult. If the ovaries where completely removed and the ova extracted and artificially inseminated and then implanted manually. The original humans would become extinct and the newly manipulated ovas would become the surviving race.
This also reminds me quite a bit of the movie Children of Men. See description below:

The world's youngest citizen has just died at 18, and humankind is facing the likelihood of its own extinction. Set in and around a dystopian London fractious with violence and warring nationalistic sects, Children of Men follows the unexpected discovery of a lone pregnant woman and the desperate journey to deliver her to safety and restore faith for a future beyond those presently on Earth. Written by Production

Set in 2027, when no child has been born for 18 years and science is at loss to explain the reason, African and East European societies collapse and their dwindling populations migrate to England and other wealthy nations. In a climate of nationalistic violence, a London peace activist turned bureaucrat Theo Faron, joins forces with his revolutionary ex-wife Julian in order to save mankind by protecting a woman who has mysteriously became pregnant. Written by Ryan Devlin

"Children of Men" envisages a world one generation from now that has fallen into chaos on the heels of an infertility defect in the population. The world's youngest citizen has just died at 18, and humankind is facing the likelihood of its own extinction. Set against a backdrop of London torn apart by violence and warring nationalistic sects, "Children of Men" follows an unlikely champion of Earth's survival: Theo, a disillusioned ex-activist turned bureaucrat, who is forced to face his own demons and protect the planet's last remaining hope. Written by Anonymous

World divisions, chaos and anarchy, these are the ways the world and the last remaining inhabitants are checking out. No child has been born for eighteen years. Human life and its moral self is eroding into extinction. Set in Britain in the year 2027, this is Theodore Faron finding his ghosts coming back to haunt his fruitless life, in the form of an underground band of rebels The Fishes. Unwittingly drawn into their plight, learning who can be trusted, who can be dependable, and how he must hold the most precious secret the Human race has been so longing to hear, the miracle that can change the course of Humanity; the first pregnant woman in eighteen years. On the run, he, Kee and Miriam must travel cross-country, on the run, terrified and helpless to the safe haven of the Human Project. With the help of aging hippie Jasper Palmer this horrific, dark, unconventional and uncompromising road movie is all that is left between the demise of the Human race and the birth of a new drawn. Written by Cinema_Fan

With this dystopian world ravished by war, paranoia and the frustrations of Man the Orwellian vision of Nineteen Eighty-Four, the totalitarian future is now complete and amongst us. With female fertility becoming obsolete, Man cannot reproduce, and no child has been born on the face of the planet for eighteen years. Man, and his future, is dying. Soon he shall be extinct. Theo, the beaten, downtrodden and middle-aged ex-political activist will, unwittingly, become involved in a war of an underground revolt. Here he is active once more, in the perilous journey across England's Home Counties, with a young girl, Kee, who, to Theo's bewilderment is pregnant. The first pregnant woman for more than eighteen years. This secret must be protected, at all cost, and mother and child must flee to the mysterious and enigmatic Human Project, across the seas. Their flight is a constant fight for survival. Who can be trusted? Who can keep a secret?

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Old 01-28-2010, 08:45 AM   #5
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A most interesting question, sjkted!...ranma187 - thanks for the Credo Mutwa reference.

It has always seemed to me that the Tower of Babel was about humankind reaching a technological level where it threatened to break its earthbound quarantine to become a space faring race. This is just speculation, but perhaps our telepathic connectedness was the original internet, which enabled us to develop very quickly. Therefore, the lesser gods who were in a sense charged with overseeing our development had to intervene to dumb us down by fusing our DNA en masse?!!!
I think this is part of it. I've done quite a bit of reading on the Atlantis material and even explored one of my original past lives there. It appears there was no language, but tremendous technology developed, way far past the stuff we have right now. I wonder how such an advanced race would allow themselves to have their DNA modified.

As I understand it, this would have happened sometime after the fall of Atlantis and during the beginning of Babylon.

Perhaps many of the original inhabitants of Atlantis had already died and it was the other groups of people who were primarily living on the planet who had their DNA altered.

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