The Men Who Stare at Goats

SteveX · 01-30-2010, 04:32 PM

I very much doubt any Hollywood actor would gamble the trappings of fame and fortune for causes that prevail or are highlighted on sites like PC. In fact if we are to believe the suggestion that black ops instigates Hollywood propaganda, which I don’t, then it’s more reasonable to say these actors are porn’s or collaborators.

I myself, as an armature writer, read sites like this for ideas. Who ever the scriptwriters is probably read a few books or some web sites and expanded upon known public domain stuff. This film is just fiction and $. Interesting to note that anyone claiming to be a super soldier will have to prove it by staring at a goat.

Céline · 01-30-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveX

I very much doubt any Hollywood actor would gamble the trappings of fame and fortune for causes that prevail or are highlighted on sites like PC. In fact if we are to believe the suggestion that black ops instigates Hollywood propaganda, which I don’t, then it’s more reasonable to say these actors are porn’s or collaborators.

I myself, as an armature writer, read sites like this for ideas. Who ever the scriptwriters is probably read a few books or some web sites and expanded upon known public domain stuff. This film is just fiction and $. Interesting to note that anyone claiming to be a super soldier will have to prove it by staring at a goat.

Please leave me some bubbles..dont pop them all!! lol

SteveX · 01-30-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Céline

Please leave me some bubbles..dont pop them all!! lol

Line em up

Christo888 · 01-30-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveX

I very much doubt any Hollywood actor would gamble the trappings of fame and fortune for causes that prevail or are highlighted on sites like PC. In fact if we are to believe the suggestion that black ops instigates Hollywood propaganda, which I don’t, then it’s more reasonable to say these actors are porn’s or collaborators.

I myself, as an armature writer, read sites like this for ideas. Who ever the scriptwriters is probably read a few books or some web sites and expanded upon known public domain stuff. This film is just fiction and $. Interesting to note that anyone claiming to be a super soldier will have to prove it by staring at a goat.

Nice to know the 'work product' of individuals on PC/PA is getting put to good use out there!!!

Any profit made off of posts and threads has to be split with the originator!!

It's just a big pot of mashed potatoes!!!

SteveX · 01-30-2010, 11:42 PM

When I write (scoff) a best seller I'll be sure to buy Bill & Kerry a drink for implementing a free site of knowledge.

Christo888 · 01-31-2010, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveX

When I write (scoff) a best seller I'll be sure to buy Bill & Kerry a drink for implementing a free site of knowledge.

They should buy you a drink for the follow through of implementing action.

The best seller part though... you can't do it.

Connecting with Sauce · 01-31-2010, 01:15 PM

In a movie which Clooney starred AND directed about oil and corruption (can't remember the title) in the middle east there were a few subtle references to some of the stuff mentioned on here... One of them that made me smile was the off hand comment about until we can run a car from water... (ie Stan Meyers).

I think some actors are aware already and stay subtle OR are in on it...

The kind of energy work actors do to get into the role and the fact it is creative right brain stuff they deal with will make more than a few of them aware and have energised kundalini ... my 2p

Tango · 01-31-2010, 03:00 PM

Sooo.... Do you THINK any actors; have any abilities to conjure or

bring their own Feelings to manifest in their Roles... Whatcha Think...?

WoW.... A REAL Writer.... " Inspired from writings seen on Proj. Avalon.net..."

Great Lead In' for a production.... I can See it NOW... Maybe a little remote influencing

is needed here...

Trooly,

Tango

SteveX · 01-31-2010, 05:23 PM

The late great David Nivan, in his autobiography, intimated that he felt a fraud as an actor. He played himself but used other people’s words.

I'm no writer...just a hobbyist writer. I lack the imagination for a quality plot... hence reading sites to my interests. I once started a film script about free energy (detective/ thriller type thing). Something that I, as a wishful pragmatist, feel passionate about. Needless to say I didn't finish it. It genuinely was rubbish

Christo888 · 01-31-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveX

The late great David Nivan, in his autobiography, intimated that he felt a fraud as an actor. He played himself but used other people’s words.

I'm no writer...just a hobbyist writer. I lack the imagination for a quality plot... hence reading sites to my interests. I once started a film script about free energy (detective/ thriller type thing). Something that I, as a wishful pragmatist, feel passionate about. Needless to say I didn't finish it. It genuinely was rubbish

Dangit SteveX... and here I thought you were going to go to town and whip up a best seller. I know how about your adventures through 'time.' Self-hypnotise yourself and go meet all your old selves and ask them questions about all the things we have questions about today. The irony... "Back to the Past" to get the Truth!!!

Céline · 01-31-2010, 07:46 PM

i actualy enjoyed this movie...lol

Do you think it is a coincidence that "Lynn Cassidy and Bill" where the main characters??

SteveX · 01-31-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Christo888

Dangit SteveX... and here I thought you were going to go to town and whip up a best seller. I know how about your adventures through 'time.' Self-hypnotise yourself and go meet all your old selves and ask them questions about all the things we have questions about today. The irony... "Back to the Past" to get the Truth!!!

errr So you know....Did I spill the beans in the "Goat Hill Tavern" end of Harbour Boulevard or the "Shark club" on Baker street. Both in Costa Mesa... I did used to drink myself forgetful.

Christo888 · 01-31-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveX

errr So you know....Did I spill the beans in the "Goat Hill Tavern" end of Harbour Boulevard or the "Shark club" on Baker street. Both in Costa Mesa... I did used to drink myself forgetful.

The good ol days,

or the crazy current dayz,

but actually I meant your 'past lives.' The bits of data stored in your Soul crystals just waiting to be processed with the right mind software talent of today.

swordsmith · 01-31-2010, 11:13 PM

but you know, jon ronson knows better than this, he even has some knowledge of the bilderburgers etc.and yet in the "goats" book he goes on about the terrorist hijackers on 911 etc.
I felt the need to voice my deep dissapointment with his shilliness . So can you, and it's no surprise he hung out with Stubby and Rema I guess, can't figure out their game
http://www.jonronson.com/

SteveX · 02-01-2010, 01:22 AM

Seems to me like a chap (Jon Ronson) just writing books and making a few quid. I don't think he's a fully paid up member of "conspiracy". I think he uses books and sites for info or ideas. Like I said above

"I myself, as an armature writer, read sites like this for ideas. Who ever the scriptwriters is probably read a few books or some web sites and expanded upon known public domain stuff."

From that link you (Swordsmith) submitted I found this other link
http://jimschnabel.com/ronson-gets-my-goat/
Jim Schnabel says Ronson plagiarized some of his book.

On Ronsons website they have a forum
http://www.jonronson.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1
I dare say if someone asked politly put questions Ronson would reply. There was an Alex Jones youtube link there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqNMsz_hh34 if anyone is interested.

SteveX · 02-01-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Christo888

The good ol days,

or the crazy current dayz,

but actually I meant your 'past lives.' The bits of data stored in your Soul crystals just waiting to be processed with the right mind software talent of today.

Yer I knew where you was coming from. I do actually have 2 flash memories of two former lives but I've not been able to expand upon them.

What I was trying to do was freak you out a little. Nicely I might add.

I know it's a long shot but I noticed your avatar says your from Orange County California. Well! I lived there meself for a short period 15+ years ago. I was hoping that on the off chance you might know those 2 bars I mentioned. Yes I know OC covers hundreds of square miles but stranger things have happened.

What would have made it funnier is if you did. You may have thought "gee small world. I may have spoken with this guy"

But the crazy thing is I'm actually a Brit and live in Warwickshire UK.

Oh well… My little joke didn’t pan out like I hoped.

Céline · 02-01-2010, 04:40 PM

So...a coincidence or what?

inquiring minds want to know

Fredkc · 02-01-2010, 04:43 PM

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I think he uses books and sites for info or ideas. Like I said above

Not sure where it really comes from, so I'll credit the first person I saw use it:
Ravens and... from here.

The term for such "insightful knowledge" is: Google-de-gook

Fred

SteveX · 02-01-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Céline

So...a coincidence or what?

inquiring minds want to know

It could be either but I wouldn't be suprised. It seems the author to the book hasn't credited those from whom he got some info. Jim Schnabel says Ronson plagiarized some of his book. Also a chap by the name of John Sergeant, from a story in the Independent, http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...m-1813635.html

Sergeant..."claims he spent two years in Los Angeles, from November 2001 to 2003, researching and gathering material for the TV series Crazy Rulers of the World, which was broadcast on Channel 4 in 2004, and from which Ronson's bestselling book was spawned."

It's just a writer making a few quid and in my opinion the film wasn't actually anything worth shouting home about. Don't know about the book because I haven't read it.

Céline · 02-01-2010, 05:50 PM

Thank you for the research Steve.

i agree the movie was mostly fluff.

Comedy is a great distraction...but perhaps somewhere in there is something to hear...

01-30-2010, 04:32 PM	#1
SteveX Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 356	Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats I very much doubt any Hollywood actor would gamble the trappings of fame and fortune for causes that prevail or are highlighted on sites like PC. In fact if we are to believe the suggestion that black ops instigates Hollywood propaganda, which I don’t, then it’s more reasonable to say these actors are porn’s or collaborators. I myself, as an armature writer, read sites like this for ideas. Who ever the scriptwriters is probably read a few books or some web sites and expanded upon known public domain stuff. This film is just fiction and $. Interesting to note that anyone claiming to be a super soldier will have to prove it by staring at a goat.

01-30-2010, 11:42 PM	#5
SteveX Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 356	Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats When I write (scoff) a best seller I'll be sure to buy Bill & Kerry a drink for implementing a free site of knowledge.

01-31-2010, 01:15 PM	#7
Connecting with Sauce Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 650	Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats In a movie which Clooney starred AND directed about oil and corruption (can't remember the title) in the middle east there were a few subtle references to some of the stuff mentioned on here... One of them that made me smile was the off hand comment about until we can run a car from water... (ie Stan Meyers). I think some actors are aware already and stay subtle OR are in on it... The kind of energy work actors do to get into the role and the fact it is creative right brain stuff they deal with will make more than a few of them aware and have energised kundalini ... my 2p

01-31-2010, 03:00 PM	#8
Tango Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: eating dessert in the desert of Arizona Posts: 1,554	Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats Sooo.... Do you THINK any actors; have any abilities to conjure or bring their own Feelings to manifest in their Roles... Whatcha Think...? WoW.... A REAL Writer.... " Inspired from writings seen on Proj. Avalon.net..." Great Lead In' for a production.... I can See it NOW... Maybe a little remote influencing is needed here... Trooly, Tango Last edited by Tango; 01-31-2010 at 03:18 PM.

01-31-2010, 05:23 PM	#9
SteveX Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 356	Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats The late great David Nivan, in his autobiography, intimated that he felt a fraud as an actor. He played himself but used other people’s words. I'm no writer...just a hobbyist writer. I lack the imagination for a quality plot... hence reading sites to my interests. I once started a film script about free energy (detective/ thriller type thing). Something that I, as a wishful pragmatist, feel passionate about. Needless to say I didn't finish it. It genuinely was rubbish

01-31-2010, 07:46 PM	#11
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats i actualy enjoyed this movie...lol Do you think it is a coincidence that "Lynn Cassidy and Bill" where the main characters??

01-31-2010, 11:13 PM	#14
swordsmith Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: south east uk Posts: 379	Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats but you know, jon ronson knows better than this, he even has some knowledge of the bilderburgers etc.and yet in the "goats" book he goes on about the terrorist hijackers on 911 etc. I felt the need to voice my deep dissapointment with his shilliness . So can you, and it's no surprise he hung out with Stubby and Rema I guess, can't figure out their game http://www.jonronson.com/

02-01-2010, 01:22 AM	#15
SteveX Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 356	Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats Seems to me like a chap (Jon Ronson) just writing books and making a few quid. I don't think he's a fully paid up member of "conspiracy". I think he uses books and sites for info or ideas. Like I said above "I myself, as an armature writer, read sites like this for ideas. Who ever the scriptwriters is probably read a few books or some web sites and expanded upon known public domain stuff." From that link you (Swordsmith) submitted I found this other link http://jimschnabel.com/ronson-gets-my-goat/ Jim Schnabel says Ronson plagiarized some of his book. On Ronsons website they have a forum http://www.jonronson.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1 I dare say if someone asked politly put questions Ronson would reply. There was an Alex Jones youtube link there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqNMsz_hh34 if anyone is interested.

02-01-2010, 04:40 PM	#17
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats So...a coincidence or what? inquiring minds want to know

02-01-2010, 05:50 PM	#20
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: The Men Who Stare at Goats Thank you for the research Steve. i agree the movie was mostly fluff. Comedy is a great distraction...but perhaps somewhere in there is something to hear...