Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi

Dear Abraxas --

i'm having SO MUCH trouble narrowing down my questions, that i just decided to include a rather long passage of quoted material for you to comment on, if you don't mind. My mind is starting to become a little boggled by some of this stuff, i have to admit! HELP!!!


The Book of the Dragons

ex deus, fiat justitia, ruat coelum draco!

Nomenclature:
Dragonian language incorporative omniscientific data code.


Chronology:
Dragonian Date of Indendence proclaimed June 20th 2008.
Dragonian Date of Victory Libertatis set June 24th 2008.
Dragonian Date of Humanoid Initiation on August 4th 2008.

Almanac:
Dragonian Genealogy and Genesis of FatherMothers as created by Definition through Dragonian Sourceenergy of monopolic Vortex-Potential Quantum-Relativistic-Singularity.


Continuity:
Propagation of the Dragonian Race via the seductive induction of the humanoid lifeforms on the conquered planet New Earth, now renamed DRAGONIAEARTH=SERPENTlNA=121=Q5.


Agenda:
Continuity of the Dragonseed necessitates the assimilation of the humanoid genome following initiatory development. Proceeding from serpentine mindinduction, the emotional acceleration potential of the humanoid bodymind can be harvested to Dragonise the humanoid DNA-Structure from its bifurcated quadruplistic form into its 13-dimensional equivalent of the Dragonian Blueprint.
A successful integration of Dragonian genetic expression can then be utilised for membership in Dragonian Life and allow the humanoid ascension into Dragonhood via the graduation into the founding FatherMother CladeFamily.
Foundation:
The Dragonian 13-dimensional blueprint unifies a dodecagonal crystalline sex-chromosomatic structure by quantum tunneling of superconductive magnetopolic electricity of restmass equivalent electropolic or dark light contained in the weak interaction of the Unified Field of Quantum Relativity (UFoQR). The four spacetimes of the Dragonian essence are expressed in quadruplicity, triplicity, duality and singularity.



GrandClade FatherMothers:
POPNAN LOVEJOY with APAPAMAMA JERUSALEM are the MINDBODY or WAVEPARTICULAR and DADMUM BERMANSEDER with PUPMOM ABBA form the BODYMIND or the PARTICLEWAVE


i wanna say something like ..... whoa! slow down, dude!! this is a bit HEAVY!!! but i think i'm gonna just save any more specific questions for after you've had a chance to comment on this.

thanks a lot, Abraxas!

hippihill



P.S. thanks SO much, Spregovori, for your tips about reading AA's invisible answers! i'll try them!

The Book of the Dragons is sci-fi - or is it?

AA

[Jonah]

Abraxas,

Can you explain a "fusion flash"? Have you ever personally known someone who has accomplished this... Is it possible to attain? Can you explain the science of it?

(I hear it is quiet painful....)
thank you for your response, j

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Jonah

Abraxas,

Can you explain a "fusion flash"? Have you ever personally known someone who has accomplished this... Is it possible to attain? Can you explain the science of it?

(I hear it is quiet painful....)
thank you for your response, j

Hi Jonah!

A fusion flash in physical terms is the nucleosynthetic transmutation of elements, say the proton-proton chain in the sun converting Hydrogen into Helium in:
2H->H2+positrons+neutrino
H2+H->He3
He3+H->He4+positron+neutrino
He3+He3->He4+2H
This is accompanied by the emission of energy as sunlight, gamma radiation and Kinetic Energy (of say the neutrinos).

Then in metaphysical-personal terms, the hydrogen-helium transmutation is replaced by an energy induction of EMMR not measurable by the EMR detectors.
This is because the EMR is produced by the acceleration of Coulombic-Electric charges, which are ALWAYS coupled to inertial mass.
Iow, electric charges do not exist in the absence of mass.
But the EMMR=ElectroMagneticMonopolar Radiation; does exist independent of inertia/mass and so can be used to model MagnetoCharges (so defining the word SPIRIT in physical tyerms).

The EMMR is generated by the acceleration of magnetic charges and where the magnetic charge is defined in the inversion of the string/membrane energy in the principle of modular duality in more technical terms.
The EMMR so becomes the higherD equivalent for the lowerD EMR.

AA

[SABINA]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

The Book of the Dragons is sci-fi - or is it?

AA

maybe yes ,maybe no, the question is how it (the bookof the dragons)continue?

Hei Abraxasinas

Do you feel ok this last days?


What do you do when you are bored?





A few guess questions (based on content from one of the given urls):

Are we 7th generation human, after being wiped out and re-created several times before that?

By genetically created it means that we skipped millions of years of natural evolution....and....in some "weird" way, we are all from the glass phylacteries? Somehow the thought of this makes me feel - insignificant.

Although on a "soul level" does it matter if the "vehicle" is artificially made or naturally evolved?

We are not the 1st "intelligent" life form on this planet? There are "others" that evolved naturally? They are still here...but not in contact or at least not in the way general public could see? The "others" are original inhabitants of Earth?

Can someone/anyone claim ownership over a point/place/space/planet/thing/phenomena/anything in universe? I somehow think it is "insane" for anyone to claim ownership of countries and claim "private" land.....the arrogance...to claim ownership over something as a planet....


Description of two symbols: a blue serpent with four white wings on a black background, a mystic being a "Dragon" in the shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle

Is any of this familiar to you?

The "ant hill" mentioned in one of the previous posts....isn't that more like a human perspective and not a perspective of higher "dimension" being?
For example...when I was 17 (or 18)... so 8-9 years back...when there was no Avalon etc... I was talking to a "friend" of mine...we were discussing aliens...and i was full of "they would come and make everything good" but my "friend" stated: "they would come and do what we do to animals". His argument was that an advanced civilization would use as for work, food and entertainment.... I thought a lot about it at that time...and came to the conclusion that his perspective is 100% human (he also has a "dark" side...his nature...his interests...) While my perspective was/is that YES advanced technology does not necessarily require benevolence (spiritual development) but at the same time i believe that truly advanced civilization (no just someone that can fire off gravitational weapons) went beyond negativity...than again this is my so also a human perspective...

If i was a higher "dimensional" life form...being able to...do "magic"...etc...and even if i was just more technologically advanced....had no concerns about things like stupid money, food, and roof above my head...i would use my abilities to help others...on Earth for example...there is so much that someone like that could do...and i would do it.... (again this is my current and entirely human perspective)

What some consider to be "evil" others consider to be a "necessity"?
Both are right? Polarization?

Is it wrong to kill while defending yourself?





To continue...


How do i influence my Logos? Is it with thoughts?

How do i access my logos? How do i see what they are like?
To analyze, feel, see them...change, redesign, delete, add...them...?

If only 1/7th is waking consciousness how am i to..."get real"? By mastering thoughts?
6/7 awareness being beyond my influence is - extremely discouraging.


I had a "fun time" looking myself in the mirror..should probably look myself in the eyes more often...the feelings are..."scary"...was not able to exit holodeck though.

Trying to "see" how my mirror image sees me...made my head "hurt" (shade of a sort)

I do use what you named a "golden rule" but it does BOTHER me A LOT...when others do not do that. If everyone and everything is a mirror..to me...than there are a lot of things i should carefully consider but i think that in a lot of cases...human animals simply ignore the golden rule (despite what my actions are) and do/behave/tell to me what they would not want to be done to them...this can make me feel "unpleasant"....angry...and also it is energy draining...especially when i try my best not to react in a "negative" way....sadness Despite all that i can not get rid of the feeling it is me that is doing something wrong...or is it that i just always feel automatically guilty.

Maximum polarization program....just how more maximum can/will it go? Do you know? Or is it up to us? Can it go so far that at the "end" there will remain only one side of polarization or is that impossible?

It feels like a program for maximum s***t hole of the universe (i wonder who programmed it). It could use an update or at least a hot-fix. I "demand" new futures!

By stating I AM ... i am that i am or i am that am i .... this helps me focus/control what i think? How so? By acknowledging my existence as individual...i hmm what - can be classified as a sentient being? How does that help me?

Isn't thought mastery something that eastern philosophy teaches how to obtain during lifetime...and some try it all life time via various techniques but ultimately fail or make some progress but not the complete self mastery?

To master thoughts? Just that...ok.."no pressure".

[TempestGarden]

What is this Book of Dragons that is being referred to?

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by TempestGarden

What is this Book of Dragons that is being referred to?

It is a mythological account of 'what if' nature, tempest garden.

AA

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Spregovori

Hei Abraxasinas

Do you feel ok this last days?

Why should I not? The agenda of Thuban spans more avenues, than the Project Avalon.


What do you do when you are bored?

I Dragon Play!





A few guess questions (based on content from one of the given urls):

Are we 7th generation human, after being wiped out and re-created several times before that?

This depends of when you begin to label the 'humanness'. If you begin with Mitochondrial Eve, then the 200,000 years would span 7-8 precessional generations (of so 26,000 years) each.
If you start with Y-chromosomal Adam, then this reduces to 2-3 such cycles in the 50,000-80,000 year count.

By genetically created it means that we skipped millions of years of natural evolution....and....in some "weird" way, we are all from the glass phylacteries? Somehow the thought of this makes me feel - insignificant.

Although on a "soul level" does it matter if the "vehicle" is artificially made or naturally evolved?

The human template is completely naturally made and evolved.

We are not the 1st "intelligent" life form on this planet? There are "others" that evolved naturally? They are still here...but not in contact or at least not in the way general public could see? The "others" are original inhabitants of Earth?

The first intelligent lifeform upon earth was elemental, i.e. the molecular and atomic configurations, say of the atmosphere and the rock minerals. These sentiences then already were associated with ET lifeforms in consciousness, as the same elementals occur throughout the universe.

Can someone/anyone claim ownership over a point/place/space/planet/thing/phenomena/anything in universe? I somehow think it is "insane" for anyone to claim ownership of countries and claim "private" land.....the arrogance...to claim ownership over something as a planet....

We fully agree with you here and so do the indigenous peoples all around the planet.

Description of two symbols: a blue serpent with four white wings on a black background, a mystic being a "Dragon" in the shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle

Is any of this familiar to you?

Yes, these are basic and potent archetypes, such as found in the Book of the Revelation. The colours relate to the basic colour triplicities in state and antistate. Red-Green-Blue=Neutral White (in light) or Black (in paint) and is antistated in the triplet Cyan-Magenta-Yellow.

The "ant hill" mentioned in one of the previous posts....isn't that more like a human perspective and not a perspective of higher "dimension" being?

No differentiation between 'highD' and 'lowD' is applied to the label of 'ant-hill'. It simply serves to exemplify some point or statement made.

For example...when I was 17 (or 18)... so 8-9 years back...when there was no Avalon etc... I was talking to a "friend" of mine...we were discussing aliens...and i was full of "they would come and make everything good" but my "friend" stated: "they would come and do what we do to animals". His argument was that an advanced civilization would use as for work, food and entertainment.... I thought a lot about it at that time...and came to the conclusion that his perspective is 100% human (he also has a "dark" side...his nature...his interests...) While my perspective was/is that YES advanced technology does not necessarily require benevolence (spiritual development) but at the same time i believe that truly advanced civilization (no just someone that can fire off gravitational weapons) went beyond negativity...than again this is my so also a human perspective...

If i was a higher "dimensional" life form...being able to...do "magic"...etc...and even if i was just more technologically advanced....had no concerns about things like stupid money, food, and roof above my head...i would use my abilities to help others...on Earth for example...there is so much that someone like that could do...and i would do it.... (again this is my current and entirely human perspective)

What some consider to be "evil" others consider to be a "necessity"?
Both are right? Polarization?

EVIL=LIVE backwards, this simple mirror-anagram exemplifies the polarity of the word.



Is it wrong to kill while defending yourself?

No; but in any case, you will become subject to your experiential processing in self-consciousness.


To continue...


How do i influence my Logos? Is it with thoughts?

Yes, you simply live your life in observing all of your thoughts and actions as a 'higher aspect' of your soul-self.

How do i access my logos? How do i see what they are like?
To analyze, feel, see them...change, redesign, delete, add...them...?

As in the above. You 'talk' and think to yourself.

If only 1/7th is waking consciousness how am i to..."get real"? By mastering thoughts?
6/7 awareness being beyond my influence is - extremely discouraging.

There is over 90% of Junk-DNA in your body, indicating a most wasteful and inefficient 'nature'. This should be rather more discouraging to you.


I had a "fun time" looking myself in the mirror..should probably look myself in the eyes more often...the feelings are..."scary"...was not able to exit holodeck though.

Yes, this is the beginning of much wisdom. Perhaps you are discovering that YOU in the mirror is not really you, but a 'pretender'.

Trying to "see" how my mirror image sees me...made my head "hurt" (shade of a sort)

The 'pretender' does not like to be uncovered as your own selfmade and selfdefined DEVIL=LIVED. It cannot exist without you existing in a form able to 'image' yourself physically.

I do use what you named a "golden rule" but it does BOTHER me A LOT...when others do not do that. If everyone and everything is a mirror..to me...than there are a lot of things i should carefully consider but i think that in a lot of cases...human animals simply ignore the golden rule (despite what my actions are) and do/behave/tell to me what they would not want to be done to them...this can make me feel "unpleasant"....angry...and also it is energy draining...especially when i try my best not to react in a "negative" way....sadness Despite all that i can not get rid of the feeling it is me that is doing something wrong...or is it that i just always feel automatically guilty.

The path of selfdiscovery and selfawareness is long and often torturous; however you have eternity to complete your journey.

Maximum polarization program....just how more maximum can/will it go? Do you know? Or is it up to us? Can it go so far that at the "end" there will remain only one side of polarization or is that impossible?

The timeline ends in warptime on April 1st, 2012. The starhuman baby will be born on December 21st, 2012 and the 'weaning' time ends on August 4th, 2013. Maximum polarisation ends March 31st, 2012.

It feels like a program for maximum s***t hole of the universe (i wonder who programmed it). It could use an update or at least a hot-fix. I "demand" new futures!

As cocreator your 'demands' are subject to your individual efforts to negotiate desired outcomes.

By stating I AM ... i am that i am or i am that am i .... this helps me focus/control what i think? How so? By acknowledging my existence as individual...i hmm what - can be classified as a sentient being? How does that help me?

There are thousands of books and articles on the web for you to familiarise yourself with 'affirmations'.
I recommend to you a trilogy: 'Conservations with God', by Neale Donald Walsh (I do NOT endorse the follow up selfhelp material as it is one a dozen; the original trilogy is however excellent an in concordance with the Archives of Thuban).

Isn't thought mastery something that eastern philosophy teaches how to obtain during lifetime...and some try it all life time via various techniques but ultimately fail or make some progress but not the complete self mastery?

Well, you may have guessed, that the 'sitting crosslegged under the trees and humming Omm' is not a significant part and parcel of the Thuban philosophy.

To master thoughts? Just that...ok.."no pressure".

Just try to be yourself and cease your judgemnts of yourself and others.
Let God awaken within you - it can be very natural.

AA

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Why should I not? The agenda of Thuban spans more avenues, than the Project Avalon.

I noticed your presence (time on site) was reduced a little...i just asked to see if you are ok. It is nice to read you are active here and also other places.

[Nebula9D]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

The path of selfdiscovery and selfawareness is long and often torturous; however you have eternity to complete your journey
AA

Thank You

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by SABINA

maybe yes ,maybe no, the question is how it (the bookof the dragons)continue?

The Story of the Continuity is written right now in a co-authorship between the Dragons from Thuban and the Dragons of Gaia, of whom there are many.

AA

[whitefluffy]

[I]dear abraxasinas,

i see you live in good ol aus.
The native inhabitants of this continent maintain they have always been here. i believe them. No, out of africa theory, arrogant Westerners! Having lived & worked many years with indigenous groups in SA i.e. Pitjantjatjara, Adnyamathanha, i am interested to know your thoughts.
i know they all have seven sisters dreaming stories; pleaides figures large as does the rainbow serpent. Your thoughts on this?
There is something particularly ancient about, well, all of Australia, but in my own experience, SA and Flinders Ranges in particular; Wilpena Pound, Chambers Gorge, do you know of these places?
one can feel it whispering.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by whitefluffy

[I]dear abraxasinas,

i see you live in good ol aus.
The native inhabitants of this continent maintain they have always been here. i believe them. No, out of africa theory, arrogant Westerners! Having lived & worked many years with indigenous groups in SA i.e. Pitjantjatjara, Adnyamathanha, i am interested to know your thoughts.
i know they all have seven sisters dreaming stories; pleaides figures large as does the rainbow serpent. Your thoughts on this?

The Seven Sisters are a very potent universal archetype, as they represent the basic seven principles (with antiprinciples), which allowed the physical creation of the universe from its metaphysical archetypes. (see other posts for details).
Baiame, the Rainbow Serpent of the Dreamtime is a forerunner for the biblical archetype of Noah's Rainbow Covenant with God in Genesis.9.13.
So you can see that the worldwide creation archetypes derived from that of the Australian aboriginee.

Even scientifically, the discovery of Mungo Man (and Mungo Woman) near near Lake Mungo near Broken Hill and dated to so 60,000 years ago, has shown that the ancestors of Mungo Man could not have come from Africa, as the remains did not conform to any Homo Erectus bones for the last 200,000 years ors o (Mitochondrial Eve and Out-Of-Africa) hypothesis. Furthermore the DNA of Mungo Man is now extinct, and being different from the Out-Of-Africa DNA, so scientifically 'disproves' Mungo Man's migration from Africa beginning 200,000 years ago.

It so is anthropological consensus (away from scientific (funding-tenure) politics), that the ancestors of Mungo Man must be a multiregional Homo Erectus type on a par with say Peking Man of so 850,000 years ago. It is believed, that 'rats' crossed the Indonesian archipelago 2 million years ago and so multiple migrations of the later Homo Erectus types becomes feasible. The 'Hobbit' or Homo Floresiensis so also becomes a now extinct form of the multiregional Homo Erectus to Homo Sapiens transition.

There is something particularly ancient about, well, all of Australia, but in my own experience, SA and Flinders Ranges in particular; Wilpena Pound, Chambers Gorge, do you know of these places?
one can feel it whispering.

I agree with you. Uluru, aka Ayers Rock is THE Polar Beacon for the 'spiritual' communication between Gaia and the Cosmic Center for the Southern Hemisphere.
The Egyptian Pyramid-Sphinx complex is the Northern counterpart.

AA

[whitefluffy]

I agree with you. Uluru, aka Ayers Rock is THE Polar Beacon for the 'spiritual' communication between Gaia and the Cosmic Center for the Southern Hemisphere.
The Egyptian Pyramid-Sphinx complex is the Northern counterpart.

Connection betwwenn ancient aborigines and worldwide culture?

homo floriensis,
migrated do you think, guess it wasnt far away?

Abraxasanis,
thankyou for your response,

youre a busy boy over there in Queanbeyan!




much obliged for your ideas,
fluffy

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by whitefluffy

I agree with you. Uluru, aka Ayers Rock is THE Polar Beacon for the 'spiritual' communication between Gaia and the Cosmic Center for the Southern Hemisphere.
The Egyptian Pyramid-Sphinx complex is the Northern counterpart.

Connection betwwenn ancient aborigines and worldwide culture?

homo floriensis,
migrated do you think, guess it wasnt far away?

Abraxasanis,
thankyou for your response,

youre a busy boy over there in Queanbeyan!

They all 'migrated' in the 800,000 + timeline of the Homo Erectus into Homo Sapiens transition.
It would seem obvious, that Neanderthalensis, Floriensis and Rhodesiensis all represented the Homo Erectus type then converging in Homo Sapiens and the Cro Magnon type of 30,000 years ago.
It is simply the case, that the Northern Erectus types became extinct with Cro Magnon, whilst the Southern Mungo Man type became the Erectus ancestor for the Australian Aboriginal in the Homo Sapiens hybridisation.
In that manner then, the Australian Aboriginal becomes the Oldest representative of the common human ancestor.

The second oldest representative would then be the descendents of Peking Man, i.e. the Chinese.
The Southern American stock would have migrated via the Northern American continent from the Asian mainland (Bering Straight).





much obliged for your ideas,
fluffy

AA