Seperate Nazi Civilization?

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by K626

Mars is off bounds to us as now the moon is as well. Many of our things landing on Mars have come to an untimely end (apart from Rover). That is not to say there aren't "humans" on Mars, but deffo no Nazis....

Why not Nazis??....Is the logic unsound??

Why do you think no??

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Why not Nazis??....Is the logic unsound??

Why do you think no??

Hi Stargazer,

I used to believe that too, until I got to the point of an evidence-roadblock per se, basically there's very little evidence other than the hearsay about an advanced human secret society of nazis, in fact I think its one of the newer conspiracy theories that tries to revive an old group (and old enemy) instead of the new.

The nazi regime culminated with project paperclip, which by and large has been over with for a long time, that generation has pretty much died out in my opinion, but of course despite that, the conspiracy theories always remain alive and become more widespread with time.

I hate to say it, because I'm not an America hater or anti-American by any means, but much of the death and suffering of today can be directly attributed to America and their ally Israel, and not the old and dead nazi regime, which I happen to think now is a very convenient way to keep us chasing a ghost. Same with all the talk about a new old order, there is no such thing, at least you won't even have to worry about such a thing for another 6 decades, however there are well known occultist and elitist groups that predate any notion of a new world order.

Now take into account, not just America, but all the continents and countries and territories of the rest of the world, and the hundreds of different governments, which is an utter contradiction of "the government", as Richard Hoagland himself would say; there is no such thing as "the government", there are several governments, and some of these factions are at war with each other. In most instances, these wars all go back to more ancient and spiritual conflicts of indifference and intolerance; holy wars. And that's the truth. Either that or its for resources and conquering territory. Since the beginnings of recorded history, that's how its always been and remains as such.

Yes there are secret societies that pull the strings most of the time behind the scenes, hence the term "shadow government", because they are mostly unseen. And yes there is a secret space program that has much better technology than what NASA is showing the public, but those you can confirm are different divisions of the naval space fleet, mainly the navy space command, which my information is they have about 32 orbital platforms, whether they have the technology to get to the moon or mars in an instant like we're always told on these forums, I will say the evidence is scarce, and that conclusion is about as reliable as project serpo, ultimately its a matter of faith and a choice whether to believe this fantasy story.

And then we hear about the aurora space fleet, but people forget that aurora is just a code name, it could mean absolutely anything, and without the proper investigation of or involvement in these programs, there is no way to know for certain how far that technology has progressed.

So in my explanation here, we're left with an important question, which is; what exactly do the percentage of genuine ufo cases represent? well we know from the best research into ufos that 90% or more of the cases can be attributed to misidentification of known or unknown aircraft, atmospheric phenomena, astronomical phenomena, light aberrations. But that much smaller percentage of cases where credible individuals observe incredibly advanced craft, craft that cannot be identified even by most experts of aircraft. And those are the cases I think are extraterrestrial and by no means human, but they are very rare cases.

[K626]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Why not Nazis??....Is the logic unsound??

Why do you think no??

It's a catchall.

[lightblue]

Hi Annemirri
you say

The Finns were (or are) the real aryan race that Hitler was after,
tall, blonde with blue eyes, and most interesting gene pool.
You may not be aware that neither the origin of finnish language nor the finns' DNA can prove where they come from.
Perhaps, "aliens" had their finger on that.

and no wonder that I chose to be born in that area myself... and I lived in Scotland too.

Finnish is not such a mistery

Finno-Ugric languages (fĭn`ō-`grĭk), also called Finno-Ugrian languages, group of languages forming a subdivision of the Uralic subfamily of the Ural-Altaic family of languages (see Uralic and Altaic languages Uralic and Altaic languages (y
..... Click the link for more information. ). The Finno-Ugric group of languages can be divided into two subgroups, Finnic and Ugric. These languages have about 24 million speakers distributed in enclaves scattered in a territory that stretches from Norway east to the Ob River of Siberia and south to the Carpathian Mts. About 10 million of these people speak the Finnic tongues, which include Finnish Finnish language, also called Suomi, member of the Finnic group of the Finno-Ugric languages . These languages form a subdivision of the Uralic subfamily of the Ural-Altaic family of languages (see Uralic and Altaic languages ).
..... Click the link for more information. , native to about 5 million in Finland and about 1 million elsewhere; Karelian, used by close to 100,000 in Karelia in NW Russia; Estonian, the mother tongue of more than 1 million in Estonia; Lapp, native to some 60,000 mainly nomadic people living in Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Russia; Mordovian, spoken by about 1 million in Russia in the neighborhood of the Volga River below its bend; Cheremiss, the mother tongue of 550,000 in the area where the Volga and Kama rivers join (W of the Ural Mountains); and the Permian languages Votyak, native to about 600,000 between the Kama and Vyatka rivers of European Russia, and Zyrian or Komi, spoken by some 400,000 living between the Pechora, Mezen, and Kama rivers (W of the Ural Mountains). The principal member of the Ugric subgroup is Hungarian Hungarian language, also called Magyar, member of the Ugric group of the Finno-Ugric languages . These languages form a subdivision of the Uralic subfamily of the Ural-Altaic family of languages (see Uralic and Altaic languages ).
..... Click the link for more information. , with some 13 million speakers, 10 million of whom reside in Hungary and another 3 million in adjacent countries. Ostyak is spoken by about 25,000 in the area of the Ob River of W Siberia, and Vogul is the language of some 5,000 in the neighborhood of the Ob and Irtysh rivers of W Siberia. The Finno-Ugric languages are agglutinative in that they add large numbers of suffixes to an unchanging root (one suffix following the other) to indicate such features as case, number, person, tense, and mood. Derivatives are also frequently formed by suffixes. etc etc..

in my view you are doing a guesswork when you say you have a good knack to sense things..

besides isn't the ugro-finnic group not as closa a relative to sanskrit as other european languages (exept

basque) are? That's if we agree on the premise that the language of the aryan plateau split into 2 main

branches; sanskrit and avestan. ..sanskrit went on to form european, whilst avestan influenced the

formation of iranian, pashtu and other languages of that area..exept for the semitic. iranian cultural elite

consider themselves to be of aryan descent, they even (i think) usurped the term for themselves and

called their country Iran as from not so long ago..i guess you'd have a tough time presenting your tall

and blond theory to an Iranian..best wishes l

[annemirri]

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[lightblue]

let's make it clear here that I am A FINN, born and raised in Finland,
which has the world's best primary and secondary education, whatever statistics you look at will confirm that. People have a good general knowledge, and a practical attitude towards life, and they practise common sense.

So you can be sure that I do know about finnish language.

There were, in the late 1990's, many scientific studies, and forum, where the scientists, linguists, were arguing with Dna specialists about the origin of the finns. Never reaching a conclusion. So the mystery remains unsolved.
So, I leave it here.

And I am not doing any guessing, or sensing, on these facts

sorry, i can't have guessed you were a finn..

best wishes l

[K626]

Originally Posted by annemirri

Lightblue,

let's make it clear here that I am A FINN, born and raised in Finland,
which has the world's best primary and secondary education, whatever statistics you look at will confirm that. People have a good general knowledge, and a practical attitude towards life, and they practise common sense.

So you can be sure that I do know about finnish language.

There were, in the late 1990's, many scientific studies, and forum, where the scientists, linguists, were arguing with Dna specialists about the origin of the finns. Never reaching a conclusion. So the mystery remains unsolved.
So, I leave it here.

And I am not doing any guessing, or sensing, on these facts.

Love the Finns, so interesting and spooky.

[annemirri]

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[K626]

Originally Posted by annemirri

You may not even have any idea,
got a finnish friend like a mathematician/ shaman who was in his "past life"
german (nazi ?) scientist, an egyptian dark priest, and he loved to spook people by literally travelling through the walls (out of body). He had his own "ufo encounters".

To be honest, I spooked my friends a few times myself....but,
last night during our evening walk me and my children got a little "spooked" ourselves , ,
so better not tell about the egyptian object,
as it is like talking of the devil and he is sure to appear.

Had a very intesnse presence with me on Fri night and the the lights went off in my room for a tiny moment like a power failure and then came back on much brighter. Last night I had a dream where I was looking at mh own empty bed and on the floor by the bed were some very beautiful green shoes.Any ideas Anne?

[annemirri]

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[K626]

Originally Posted by annemirri

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The lights...they tend to do that. I am changing the bulbs all the time.
And the clocks have been disappearing or breaking since childhood, or dropping their hands. I do not have one, they just make me angry.

(We lived for three months on a small island in the Scottish Western Highlands without heating or electricity, and I was quite happy.)

You know the story of Asterix and Obelix ? They never gave any magic drink to Obelix as he had fallen in to the cauldron with magic potion as a child, so he had superhuman strength. I was in middle of those ufosightings in Finland as a child, and things like meditation and extreme yoga practice is forbidden for me...so I try to be lazy, stupid, poor,...live in solitude, away from general folk.


What comes to last night...we, me and the children, went for a walk,
annabella (my daughter) said that suddenly the part of road that we were walking on seemed much longer than normally, we walked a little bit further towards our house, and there was something like a very sharp lightning on the grass (50 metres long) by the road we were walking, it was greenish blue...then it came again, and the children also noticed it.

Then the lightning came towards us from the direction of our house, twice.
(No wonder I have a headache today.) Spooky ?

It looks a bit like ball lightning, I had it in Germany in the flat (inside), it's a kind of portal "they" use...You feel like you're losing sense of time and distance but there is no fear, bit like Alice in Wonderland I guess.

[annemirri]

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[annemirri]

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[lightblue]

i've no comment

best wishes l

[K626]

Originally Posted by annemirri

And that takes it all back to origin of "the aryan race", to ATLANTIS.
There were the tall, blonde, blue eyed blondes (like me) and the darker skinned, brown and green eyed ones (like my daughter?), which came from different starsystems and planets. And all are called "aryans" .

Back when living in Usa, my neighbours were from Iran, they were our best friends! My daughter's best friend's parents when living in Finland were from Iran and Egypt .
My only friend here in Wales lived in Iran for many years.

What's with this Iraninan connection?

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by K626

It's a catchall.

I understand but I was trying to get a BIG PICTURE...then work the details.

[K626]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

I understand but I was trying to get a BIG PICTURE...then work the details.

I can't post all of it on here but will give a cut-down version a bit later today my friend.

Peace.

K

[Kamikaze]

annemirri I find your look into this interesting.

I would like to know much more about the Finnish involvement and stories.

I'm also a Finn but I was born and raised in Sweden to my Finnish parents so I've missed much about the Finnish history etc as I have gone to Swedish schools and such.
I only had 1 hour of Finnish class each week up until middle/high school, that was just for learning to write and read better.

I can speak and read all well but my writing is just horrible.

Do you places for me to look into for me to learn more about the eventual Finnish part there may be into these kinda things.