Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat

waitinginthewings · 03-01-2010, 07:53 PM

I have just read Kerry's message to all of us. (that thread is closed, so cannot post there) & I feel a sadness that she will no longer be involved with Bill. I thought they were a great team, & am thankful for all their great work.

I wish you Kerry & Bill great success & safety on your new individual journeys. I guess all good things come to an end. One door closes & another one opens.

May you both be well & happy.

burgundia · 03-01-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

I wish you Kerry & Bill great success & safety on your new individual journeys. One door closes & another one opens.

May you both be well & happy.

good luck to both of you...

mkspllmn · 03-02-2010, 03:19 AM

I knew something was amiss lately and, quite frankly, I was wondering when Project Camelot was going to be infiltrated. I also kind of figured that Kerry would be the one that would be used for this purpose. I have followed Camelot for about 2 years now and it has had a profound impact on my life in ways that are difficult to explain. I am sure this is true for a lot of people. However, I could see early on that Kerry had a weakness that was destined to be exploited, that is an extreme desire for success (money and power).

A lot of good things have come out of Camelot with Bill and Kerry. Eyes have been opened and amazing stories have been told. Giant toes have been stepped on and it was only a matter of time before something had to be done.

Lately I have seen petty bickering and a lack of genuine investigation on the forum. Kerry and Bill fighting, Kerry and Greer fighting, Kerry and Burish fighting. Kerry promising interviews (McCollum) with teasers but not the actual interview. And in most cases poor Bill is left to pick up the pieces. Camelot has gained a lot of popularity in the last 2 years and I can see, in my minds eye, Kerry druling and panting wanting more and more. I dont think the purpose even matters to her anymore. But this is what usually happens to would-be stars in Hollywood, the ego gets filled to the max and then - boom - they explode and self destruct and a lot of other people go down with them. Now she is closing threads, removing videos, and colluding with the enemy in her rise to riches and glory only to find at the end of the day that she has been duped by her own mind.

Finally, I have seen the forum ruled by totalitarian moderators who, under the guise of "protecting" the site, have offended many supporters of the Camelot project and have cause more discord and chaos than any poster could ever do. Most of the best posters have seemed to have vanished. I believe this is part of the infiltration process.

Project Camelot, as it once was, is over. This is true of all the good things in life, so, in that regard, I suppose it could be considered a complement.

I will continue to monitor the forum as I have been and throw in my two cents on occasion if this post does'nt get me banned.

ellie · 03-02-2010, 03:35 AM

I could be wrong about this, but I do not agree MKS.... The mods are between a rock and a hard place sometimes, being castigated by some members and then they probably get into trouble as well by the ptb so to speak of the forum.

Sometimes I believe they are told what to do against their better judgement and I will stand by that.

Look and read carefully, very carefully through Bill's chat posts okay and then read very carefully what Kerry posted.

I asked Bill in the chat room what the bottom line was why Kerry pulled the plug on PA and he told me go and do your research. Well I have

Now, you want to know what's up........................as I said get a texta or something out read what Bill said then Kerry, then ponder it and you will come up with the underlying reason.

Nuff said.

mkspllmn · 03-02-2010, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ellie

Sometimes I believe they are told what to do against their better judgement and I will stand by that.

I think you could have a point there and that is why I said that it is part of the infiltration process.

Karen · 03-02-2010, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ellie

Sometimes I believe they are told what to do against their better judgement and I will stand by that.

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Originally Posted by mkspllmn

I think you could have a point there and that is why I said that it is part of the infiltration process.

Not true.

Ailith · 03-02-2010, 04:10 AM

"Even if PTB turn Bill and Kerry against each others, even if they wipe out Camelot and Avalon, they will NEVER win. Nothing has been done in vain, nothing will be forgotten. We, the people, are much more aware than the slaves of the intelligence community, pathetic robots who spend their lives suppressing real information, splitting opposition and spreading disinformation. If they succeed in targeting someone, manipulating them to obedience, let´s forgive such a person because that person is a victim, not a traitor. Whatever happens I hold Bill and Kerry in highest regard. PTB; read this carefully: we, the people, will continue the fight! "...Light and Fight

Yep...well said...

Ditto Ditto Ditto

Karen · 03-02-2010, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ellie

The mods are between a rock and a hard place sometimes, being castigated by some members and then they probably get into trouble as well by the ptb so to speak of the forum.

The way this mod/forum organizer sees it the green part is true - doesn't much matter what we do - almost any action we take will be criticized by someone. There is absolutely no way to please all the people all the time - or even once. You have to stand in your integrity, be true to yourself, and not be blown around by public opinion. People are all over the spectrum and all over a spectrum of spectrums. Imagine even trying to get 6 mods agreeing what to do.

But as far as the part in red, some ptb ordering us around - I don't see it. Gosh sometimes I wish someone would help me decide what to do. Nope, it's just us in our own little mod chat room - a rag tag bunch of volunteers from all over the globe, in various time zones trying to p*ss off the lowest number of people.

mkspllmn · 03-02-2010, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Karen

People are all over the spectrum and all over a spectrum of spectrums. Imagine even trying to get 6 mods agreeing what to do.

But as far as the part in red, some ptb ordering us around - I don't see it.

Forums need moderators. There is no doubt about that.

Maybe the mod team just tried to do too much. There were several "purges" when the forum went free. Many good people were put off by this and never returned. Dont forget - if you ban one person, everyone is threatened by this. In most forums you hardly hear from the moderators and usually it is just a warning.

The ptb are extremely clever. Well meaning people are influenced without even knowing what happened. The only thing we have to go by sometimes is the end result.

My point is that Project Camelot was a prime target for the ptb and I would have been very surprised if what is happening now didnt happen. In fact I was thinking it was taking a little too long and was starting to think that maybe Camelot was put in place by the ptb. But now that I can see it crumbling piece by piece from the inside out and no one is sure exactly why, I know that it was for real and it demise is cleverly crafted.

I would have never been able to see this if it hadnt been for Project Camelot.

mkspllmn · 03-02-2010, 04:38 AM

BTW Karen, I applaud your willingness to talk about this.

EYES WIDE OPEN · 03-02-2010, 09:04 AM

If anyone want a great model of how a fourm can be run with respect, just look at open minds forum.

TRANCOSO · 03-02-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

If anyone want a great model of how a fourm can be run with respect, just look at open minds forum.

Which has a 24/7 average of 10-20 members/guests online. That's comparing a village with a city.

Seafury · 03-02-2010, 09:21 AM

Reading Bill's side of the story only reinforces my view that I've held for awhile now about the complete uselessness of Kerry in PC. She's always wanted to be a star, she always has to be in control and she's overbearing in her pride and ego as well as completely lacking in discernment as of late. It's obvious in every interview she's ever conducted and Project Avalon will be way better off without her and instead have Bill at the reins. He's far more intelligent, far more grounded and far more well spoken in every way.

The fact that he said he's quitting PC and going it alone is the best news I've heard in awhile. Wilcock can go with Kerry in my opinion, although I seriously doubt he'll really take sides.

Hopefully Kerry takes Miriam with her too so we never have to see anymore front page begging for donations to send her on personal vacations.

Kulapops · 03-02-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Seafury

Hopefully Kerry takes Miriam with her too so we never have to see anymore front page begging for donations to send her on personal vacations.

how very dare you !

The very thought...

Aztar · 03-02-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Seafury

Hopefully Kerry takes Miriam with her too so we never have to see anymore front page begging for donations to send her on personal vacations.

Ok I admit it.
I laughed really hard

I fell of my fence, better get back to building the back deck. <==PA chat joke

joel77 · 03-02-2010, 11:25 AM

is there a link to more about the dan burich comments about bill and Kerry i find this very interesting.

J.

Carol · 03-02-2010, 04:54 AM

"Finally, I have seen the forum ruled by totalitarian moderators who, under the guise of "protecting" the site, have offended many supporters of the Camelot project and have cause more discord and chaos than any poster could ever do. Most of the best posters have seemed to have vanished. I believe this is part of the infiltration process."

Hogwash. Members are expected to follow the rules. If they are stretching beyond the boundaries they are notified in PM and generally will make the requested adjustments.

Bill asked for Kinsuemie2 to be banned. As one of the founders of the forum he has that right. Franciejones was banned for publically posting an email from Bill on the forum. Some of the others were banned for crossing the line and not adapting to the rules of the forum. They had chances and blew it.

Being a moderator on almost any forum is a thankless job for the most part. Having spent hundreds of volunteer hours here back in the beginning I'm well aware of folks who have authority issues meaning they do not like to be reminded to follow the guidelines and will continue to do what personally pleases them. This is not that type of forum. Bill and Kerry originally set down the rules with input from other volunteers. If folks can't or won't follow them they are welcome to go somewhere else. However criticizing the mods for keeping the forum running relatively smoothly irrespective of the multiple different types of personalities that visit here is just bad manners.

Basically, this statement is saying that the moderators themselves are currently infiltrated. That just doesn't wash. I've known some of these people for months and they bend over backwards to try and help. Some who are more inexperienced may falter in their personal style of interaction, yet they all have good hearts and all do their best.

As for some of the best posters vanishing.. ask yourself why? Kinsuemei was reinstated but left because of how he was treated by Bill and others who didn't believe him. I always liked him and am sorry about what happened to him here. Others just move onto other things. There is a whole lot more going on in the real world then forum land which needs attention. Forum land is for when there is extra time to post, share info, do research or shoot the breeze. But to sit there mkspllmn and trash the moderators here is just wrong and I think you owe them an apology.

mkspllmn · 03-02-2010, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Carol

Basically, this statement is saying that the moderators themselves are currently infiltrated. That just doesn't wash.

... I think you owe them an apology.

I am looking at what has happened to Camelot as a whole.

It does wash in the sense that if it didnt happen there is something wrong. Very large toes are being stepped on and they are very clever and will do anything to discredit Camelot.

I am sorry if you are offended. I am sorry you are angry.

BTW. How did you get my quote in red like that without any border? Very cool.

Karen · 03-02-2010, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mkspllmn

BTW. How did you get my quote in red like that without any border? Very cool.

After you click quote, there is a whole row of nifty little buttons at the top of the box you type in. A simple copy/paste will put it there without the box, or you can remove the [quote] {/quote] tags. Hover over each icon to see what it does, and if this is sounding too rudimentary, consider also I'm posting for those who may know less than you. There's fonts, sizes, colors, bold, etc. Text alignment, bullet points. One of them will help you make a live link to a page, one will let you put in a url to a picture, and the next one will insert those quote tags. You can even learn coding by clicking on each one.

mkspllmn · 03-02-2010, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Karen

After you click quote, there is a whole row of nifty little buttons at the top of the box you type in. A simple copy/paste will put it there without the box, or you can remove the {quote] {/quote] tags. Hover over each icon to see what it does, and if this is sounding too rudimentary, consider also I'm posting for those who may know less than you. There's fonts, sizes, colors, bold, etc. Text alignment, bullet points. One of them will help you make a live link to a page, one will let you put in a url to a picture, and the next one will insert those quote tags. You can even learn coding by clicking on each one.

Thanks!

She just took the time to make it look nice.

Aztar · 03-02-2010, 05:53 AM

Hey all

Wow, go to sleep for a few hrs and miss allot it seems.

As to the Post of Bills Comments, they were taken off the Avalon chat log that I requested be saved and re-posted. Karen was nice enough to re-post it on Avalon chat for those that were not there when Bill was Posted it live
(over & over & over btw, TY Karen aka saint).

I was there & it was confirmed by a Mod that it was Bill Ryan as we had a fake Bill in the forum previous that evening.

I did make 1 change to the post I changed bills word destruc to destruct and removed the time logs to make it easier to read.

The original chat log exists.

That my friends is the story of Bill's account in Avalon Chat room.
Some of us were there for 10hrs or more.
It was an adventure filled with intrigue, chills, spills , trolls & Rusty Hooks!!

Céline · 03-02-2010, 05:54 AM

lol! well said..we are all gratefull for the clarity you offer

Carol · 03-02-2010, 06:29 AM

I got over my paranoia years ago. Having people with the highest security level clearance in my home along with others who know all the other folks who are whistle blowers made me realize that anyone in the right circumstance can look at anything at anytime. However, it was after my little ET experience I also realized there is no such thing as secrets because telepathy is real and one can't hide. Subsequently it isn't worth the effort or energy to be afraid. Sometimes my email may be delayed but that is about it. There isn't anything earth shattering in it and certainly no secrets. My name may be on some lists but no one has ever showed up. And even if they did what would they do? I'm too far down on the totum pole for anyone to really care. And I am not a threat and probably considered boring if ever monitored.

Facing fear and walking to the other side is liberating.

As to if Kerry is being used. That is possible. However, it is also her choice and I suspect she has good instincts so would catch on fairly quickly. Perhaps it is more a mutual association where both are being used for different purposes that may be at work here. However, it still isn't our business. We are just spectators at this point and working at our own discrimination when being an observor. I think we all wish them the best and just have to let it go at that.

mkspllmn · 03-02-2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Carol

Facing fear and walking to the other side is liberating.

As to if Kerry is being used. That is possible. However, it is also her choice and I suspect she has good instincts so would catch on fairly quickly.

I think we all wish them the best and just have to let it go at that.

When I first learned what kind of a world we live in through the interviews and other reacerch, I was almost afraid to leave the house. I took security measures and jumped when someone was at the door. I have largely gotten over that fear but I still dont like the fact that the world is controlled by the kind of henous criminals that should only be in movies, or in prison. I just cant believe it. We are all slaves. Its like a nightmare. The whole purpose for my existence has been shattered. This knowledge has changed me forever. Still it is better to know than to not know. What I cant understand is people who know and just yawn and say "there is nothing I can do about it" and just go on with their lives as if nothing is different. This does not seem rational to me. I guess it is just their way of dealing with it, like a traumatic event, just try not to think about it.

Project Camelot is the Kerry show. If she wants to wreck it that is her right. There hasnt been anything new in a long time and maybe it has simply run its course. Besides I think she is very interested in having a TV show. (I think she must know that TV is used as a mind control device. Mine got shut off 2 months ago due to lack of payment and I think I am starting to get used to it.)

I will miss Camelot the same as I missed "Gunsmoke".

Céline · 03-02-2010, 06:57 AM

there is a tv show in the works.right?

03-01-2010, 07:53 PM	#1
waitinginthewings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 1,340	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat I have just read Kerry's message to all of us. (that thread is closed, so cannot post there) & I feel a sadness that she will no longer be involved with Bill. I thought they were a great team, & am thankful for all their great work. I wish you Kerry & Bill great success & safety on your new individual journeys. I guess all good things come to an end. One door closes & another one opens. May you both be well & happy.

03-02-2010, 03:19 AM	#3
mkspllmn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 196	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat I knew something was amiss lately and, quite frankly, I was wondering when Project Camelot was going to be infiltrated. I also kind of figured that Kerry would be the one that would be used for this purpose. I have followed Camelot for about 2 years now and it has had a profound impact on my life in ways that are difficult to explain. I am sure this is true for a lot of people. However, I could see early on that Kerry had a weakness that was destined to be exploited, that is an extreme desire for success (money and power). A lot of good things have come out of Camelot with Bill and Kerry. Eyes have been opened and amazing stories have been told. Giant toes have been stepped on and it was only a matter of time before something had to be done. Lately I have seen petty bickering and a lack of genuine investigation on the forum. Kerry and Bill fighting, Kerry and Greer fighting, Kerry and Burish fighting. Kerry promising interviews (McCollum) with teasers but not the actual interview. And in most cases poor Bill is left to pick up the pieces. Camelot has gained a lot of popularity in the last 2 years and I can see, in my minds eye, Kerry druling and panting wanting more and more. I dont think the purpose even matters to her anymore. But this is what usually happens to would-be stars in Hollywood, the ego gets filled to the max and then - boom - they explode and self destruct and a lot of other people go down with them. Now she is closing threads, removing videos, and colluding with the enemy in her rise to riches and glory only to find at the end of the day that she has been duped by her own mind. Finally, I have seen the forum ruled by totalitarian moderators who, under the guise of "protecting" the site, have offended many supporters of the Camelot project and have cause more discord and chaos than any poster could ever do. Most of the best posters have seemed to have vanished. I believe this is part of the infiltration process. Project Camelot, as it once was, is over. This is true of all the good things in life, so, in that regard, I suppose it could be considered a complement. I will continue to monitor the forum as I have been and throw in my two cents on occasion if this post does'nt get me banned.

03-02-2010, 03:35 AM	#4
ellie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 183	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat I could be wrong about this, but I do not agree MKS.... The mods are between a rock and a hard place sometimes, being castigated by some members and then they probably get into trouble as well by the ptb so to speak of the forum. Sometimes I believe they are told what to do against their better judgement and I will stand by that. Look and read carefully, very carefully through Bill's chat posts okay and then read very carefully what Kerry posted. I asked Bill in the chat room what the bottom line was why Kerry pulled the plug on PA and he told me go and do your research. Well I have Now, you want to know what's up........................as I said get a texta or something out read what Bill said then Kerry, then ponder it and you will come up with the underlying reason. Nuff said.

03-02-2010, 04:10 AM	#7
Ailith Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 5	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat "Even if PTB turn Bill and Kerry against each others, even if they wipe out Camelot and Avalon, they will NEVER win. Nothing has been done in vain, nothing will be forgotten. We, the people, are much more aware than the slaves of the intelligence community, pathetic robots who spend their lives suppressing real information, splitting opposition and spreading disinformation. If they succeed in targeting someone, manipulating them to obedience, let´s forgive such a person because that person is a victim, not a traitor. Whatever happens I hold Bill and Kerry in highest regard. PTB; read this carefully: we, the people, will continue the fight! "...Light and Fight Yep...well said... Ditto Ditto Ditto Last edited by Ailith; 03-02-2010 at 04:15 AM.

03-02-2010, 04:38 AM	#10
mkspllmn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 196	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat BTW Karen, I applaud your willingness to talk about this.

03-02-2010, 09:04 AM	#11
EYES WIDE OPEN Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hastings, UK Posts: 424	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat If anyone want a great model of how a fourm can be run with respect, just look at open minds forum.

03-02-2010, 09:21 AM	#13
Seafury Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 85	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat Reading Bill's side of the story only reinforces my view that I've held for awhile now about the complete uselessness of Kerry in PC. She's always wanted to be a star, she always has to be in control and she's overbearing in her pride and ego as well as completely lacking in discernment as of late. It's obvious in every interview she's ever conducted and Project Avalon will be way better off without her and instead have Bill at the reins. He's far more intelligent, far more grounded and far more well spoken in every way. The fact that he said he's quitting PC and going it alone is the best news I've heard in awhile. Wilcock can go with Kerry in my opinion, although I seriously doubt he'll really take sides. Hopefully Kerry takes Miriam with her too so we never have to see anymore front page begging for donations to send her on personal vacations. Last edited by Seafury; 03-02-2010 at 09:29 AM.

03-02-2010, 11:25 AM	#16
joel77 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London England Posts: 19	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat is there a link to more about the dan burich comments about bill and Kerry i find this very interesting. J.

03-02-2010, 04:54 AM	#17
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat "Finally, I have seen the forum ruled by totalitarian moderators who, under the guise of "protecting" the site, have offended many supporters of the Camelot project and have cause more discord and chaos than any poster could ever do. Most of the best posters have seemed to have vanished. I believe this is part of the infiltration process." Hogwash. Members are expected to follow the rules. If they are stretching beyond the boundaries they are notified in PM and generally will make the requested adjustments. Bill asked for Kinsuemie2 to be banned. As one of the founders of the forum he has that right. Franciejones was banned for publically posting an email from Bill on the forum. Some of the others were banned for crossing the line and not adapting to the rules of the forum. They had chances and blew it. Being a moderator on almost any forum is a thankless job for the most part. Having spent hundreds of volunteer hours here back in the beginning I'm well aware of folks who have authority issues meaning they do not like to be reminded to follow the guidelines and will continue to do what personally pleases them. This is not that type of forum. Bill and Kerry originally set down the rules with input from other volunteers. If folks can't or won't follow them they are welcome to go somewhere else. However criticizing the mods for keeping the forum running relatively smoothly irrespective of the multiple different types of personalities that visit here is just bad manners. Basically, this statement is saying that the moderators themselves are currently infiltrated. That just doesn't wash. I've known some of these people for months and they bend over backwards to try and help. Some who are more inexperienced may falter in their personal style of interaction, yet they all have good hearts and all do their best. As for some of the best posters vanishing.. ask yourself why? Kinsuemei was reinstated but left because of how he was treated by Bill and others who didn't believe him. I always liked him and am sorry about what happened to him here. Others just move onto other things. There is a whole lot more going on in the real world then forum land which needs attention. Forum land is for when there is extra time to post, share info, do research or shoot the breeze. But to sit there mkspllmn and trash the moderators here is just wrong and I think you owe them an apology. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198 Last edited by Carol; 03-02-2010 at 04:59 AM.

03-02-2010, 05:53 AM	#21
Aztar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 137	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat Hey all Wow, go to sleep for a few hrs and miss allot it seems. As to the Post of Bills Comments, they were taken off the Avalon chat log that I requested be saved and re-posted. Karen was nice enough to re-post it on Avalon chat for those that were not there when Bill was Posted it live (over & over & over btw, TY Karen aka saint). I was there & it was confirmed by a Mod that it was Bill Ryan as we had a fake Bill in the forum previous that evening. I did make 1 change to the post I changed bills word destruc to destruct and removed the time logs to make it easier to read. The original chat log exists. That my friends is the story of Bill's account in Avalon Chat room. Some of us were there for 10hrs or more. It was an adventure filled with intrigue, chills, spills , trolls & Rusty Hooks!!

03-02-2010, 05:54 AM	#22
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat lol! well said..we are all gratefull for the clarity you offer

03-02-2010, 06:29 AM	#23
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat I got over my paranoia years ago. Having people with the highest security level clearance in my home along with others who know all the other folks who are whistle blowers made me realize that anyone in the right circumstance can look at anything at anytime. However, it was after my little ET experience I also realized there is no such thing as secrets because telepathy is real and one can't hide. Subsequently it isn't worth the effort or energy to be afraid. Sometimes my email may be delayed but that is about it. There isn't anything earth shattering in it and certainly no secrets. My name may be on some lists but no one has ever showed up. And even if they did what would they do? I'm too far down on the totum pole for anyone to really care. And I am not a threat and probably considered boring if ever monitored. Facing fear and walking to the other side is liberating. As to if Kerry is being used. That is possible. However, it is also her choice and I suspect she has good instincts so would catch on fairly quickly. Perhaps it is more a mutual association where both are being used for different purposes that may be at work here. However, it still isn't our business. We are just spectators at this point and working at our own discrimination when being an observor. I think we all wish them the best and just have to let it go at that. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

03-02-2010, 06:57 AM	#25
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat there is a tv show in the works.right?