Abraxas has been enjoined and his group is closed Edited

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Originally Posted by GaiaLove

This is not the case.

Richard this is wrong and you know it

Who complained?

How many of us women talk to Abraxas and none that I know have been harassed

Who was it? We have the right to know or is it only for your information?

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree

Richard this is wrong and you know it

Who complained?

How many of us women talk to Abraxas and none that I know have been harassed

Who was it? We have the right to know or is it only for your information?

He's not going to be able to go there. The forum becomes liable if the complainants are not protected. About the only think you can do at this point, is open a thread where you describe your experiences within the social group and go into the types of subject material being explored there, and what it has meant to you.

I can see how people with certain sensitivities might become uncomfortable by the discussion there, because of being unable to understand that it was a spiritual discussion, couched in certain charged archetypes. If you use the word sexual or erotic to describe a spiritual experience, then it can be misconstrued by someone not ready to look at the archetypes in that context.

Perhaps if you share your experiences from the social group, and the complainants read about it, they may see how they thought one thing was going on, while it was something else. Or maybe not. Or maybe it wasn't something else. None of us know what was conveyed in private message unless they were published on the forum here, which is a bannable offence btw.

anyway, it's a long shot, but if they recant and say they may have misunderstood after reading your accounts of your experiences, then there is no longer any reason for the "final Thuban thread" to remain final. It's already risen from the dead once.

See, I can see both viewpoints. I can read archetypes so I could see the dual nature of Abrax's descriptions and language use, but I can also see how those words would look to someone with certain sensitivities or predispositions because of life experiences or some lessons as yet incomplete.

About the only thing I'm reading in all of this which really gets under my skin, is the possibility that someone found a confused ear and chattered away, not to necessarily help her, but to harm someone else. That would be an unfortunate thing to discover.

[Boober]

because someone got banned on a forum and now its the cause of the Illumanti , sorry thats funny, no one knows what he said to get him banned. Do you?

[eleni]

Originally Posted by TruthWillSetUFree

Richard this is wrong and you know it

Who complained?

How many of us women talk to Abraxas and none that I know have been harassed

Who was it? We have the right to know or is it only for your information?

I spoke to Abrax- he only treated me with kindness and respect.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by eleni

I spoke to Abrax- he only treated me with kindness and respect.

years ago while monitoring a site, one suspect who everyone loved because he treated everyone with kindness and respect was in private smoozing women to the point they were falling in love with him.

He would pay for them to come visit him, plane or bus ticket...

well one escaped and told of her experience of being forced into prostitution.

look at some of the cults that have surfaced over the last 10 years always a leader and multiple cases of child rape in the name of a higher power...

I appreciate knowing the Mods were quick enough to catch it and pull it aside for an investigation myself.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

years ago while monitoring a site, one suspect who everyone loved because he treated everyone with kindness and respect was in private smoozing women to the point they were falling in love with him.

He would pay for them to come visit him, plane or bus ticket...

well one escaped and told of her experience of being forced into prostitution.

look at some of the cults that have surfaced over the last 10 years always a leader and multiple cases of child rape in the name of a higher power...

I appreciate knowing the Mods were quick enough to catch it and pull it aside for an investigation myself.

Thanks for the information! Maybe some can see what it is that might be going on. I leave it up to the mods to determine, as the right to privacy is an issue here...and what you have said in this post might very well fit.

How are we to know that is not the case. And since when is it our right to get involved in the privacy of others?

I can only make my view known. If those of you who don't agree, choose to follow Abraxis...you also have that right...Last I heard the internet is avaliable to go to his domaine. And all of the same post and copy information is there for the taking.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Thanks for the information! Maybe some can see what it is that might be going on. I leave it up to the mods to determine, as the right to privacy is an issue here...and what you have said in this post might very well fit.

How are we to know that is not the case. And since when is it our right to get involved in the privacy of others?

I can only make my view known. If those of you who don't agree, choose to follow Abraxis...you also have that right...Last I heard the internet is avaliable to go to his domaine. And all of the same post and copy information is there for the taking.

Pray or Prey...

they target the lonely...

and Celine the twinkles on your cheek are turning into tears...

enough is enough...

[beren]

I am amazed of capabilities of human mind to create things and entities and give them energy and life.
Equally I am amazed to see to what extent a human mind is twisted.

We constantly avoid truth but in the same time loudly say that we "seek" the truth. When truth finally hits us,we scream at it!

That is not going to work.

The man with nick Abraxas is just a regular guy, on the first look.
When and if you read his posts clearly, you see that he states that he has been possessed. Certain entity is talking through him.
Case is even worse since he trusts that entity and believe it.

Clearly he `s been polite and kinda nice . But sometimes he would burn in fire but then suddenly calmed down himself.
What does that tell you?

He burned when asked certain questions.
Mind you ,those questions were not provocations or making fool of him, just straight forward questions.

Anyway force behind him was a messenger or a trooper for darkness and all that it represents cleverly hiding in the cloak of wisdom ,love and light.

That is why it `s been said that you can recognize who`s behind the mask by their fruits, their spirit.
I didn`t like his spirit and asked few questions and defended my position,
he threatened me for that and actually attacked.
All in the form of "love".

But the attack was not in the form of love.

A day or two after the attack I found that he replied to Bigmo`s invitation.
Bigmo asked that Abraxas can be there for him in spirit sort of way and to help him.
Abraxas replied with joy with a closing statement :"are you aware of what that means?"

If you invite evil spirit, then do not whine afterward.
It will not kill you but you`ll living terror daily. It will feed on your energy.
Those entities are in essence behaving like leeches.

But the worst thing is to actually invite them freely. Then they have all rights over your body.

Do you wish that?

People get a grip already. Love and light are belonging to truth, you got to align yourself with truth before gaining from it.
We as a human race are fighting terrible enemies,never forget that. Your very eternal life and soul may depend on that knowledge.

[Steven]

Originally Posted by beren

...We as a human race are fighting terrible enemies,never forget that. Your very eternal life and soul may depend on that knowledge.

Hello Beren. Usually, I do not like to share that kind of information, but since you are opening the door. Our familly was attacked by some evil spirit soon after I had a little opposition with the thuban material. If you want details, I can send them in private mail. Fortunatly, we have many guardians where I live, my familly is blessed and the attacked simply bounced on us. I don't know what happened to the 'sourcer', but it certainly does not look good, the Universal Laws are always at work.

I blessed him and asked for a miracle, nothing less .

Namaste, Steven

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Steven

Hello Beren. Usually, I do not like to share that kind of information, but since you are opening the door. Our familly was attacked by some evil spirit soon after I had a little opposition with the thuban material. If you want details, I can send them in private mail. Fortunatly, we have many guardians where I live, my familly is blessed and the attacked simply bounced on us. I don't know what happened to the 'sourcer', but it certainly does not look good, the Universal Laws are always at work.

I blessed him and asked for a miracle, nothing less .

Namaste, Steven

I put it down more than once................I too was attacked. I thank God that my personal friend was able to help me through all of this.

I hated what happen and the next day he admitted he asked for help for me.

I can't prove it but the feeling that rushed over me after I thought of what he said was awfully bad.

Who knows for sure, I only knew it put an end to any questions I had

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by Steven

Hello Beren. Usually, I do not like to share that kind of information, but since you are opening the door. Our family was attacked by some evil spirit soon after I had a little opposition with the thuban material.

This may sound strange, but I was told to pass along to you to put a small bundle of Bamboo by each of your doors leading into the home...

If you have access to Holy water cross the doors as you say "in the name of the father, son and holy spirit, protect us with your light."

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Steven

Hello Beren. Usually, I do not like to share that kind of information, but since you are opening the door. Our familly was attacked by some evil spirit soon after I had a little opposition with the thuban material. If you want details, I can send them in private mail. Fortunatly, we have many guardians where I live, my familly is blessed and the attacked simply bounced on us. I don't know what happened to the 'sourcer', but it certainly does not look good, the Universal Laws are always at work.

I blessed him and asked for a miracle, nothing less .

Namaste, Steven

That's something else that it would help to share if you're inclined. More than one now has mentioned coming under some sort of psychic attack, and related it to the Abrax/Thuban presence. If anyone was attacked, then we should know about it.

discernment is much more difficult when the information is not in view.

[Lionhawk]

What do you think people have been trying to tell you and everyone else? Now you want to make it sound like no one has said anything and your abilities as to discerning this will be much more spiritually enhanced if someone told you? Whooaaaaa! from my armchair.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

What do you think people have been trying to tell you and everyone else? Now you want to make it sound like no one has said anything and your abilities as to discerning this will be much more spiritually enhanced if someone told you? Whooaaaaa! from my armchair.

I'm not talking about the make believe demons you swat at. I'm talking about real attacks. Accounts from people who weren't already front loaded and primed by their inability to tell reality from fantasy. Of course anyone who thinks demons and dragons hide around every corner are going to find them there.

[beren]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

I'm not talking about the make believe demons you swat at. I'm talking about real attacks. Accounts from people who weren't already front loaded and primed by their inability to tell reality from fantasy. Of course anyone who thinks demons and dragons hide around every corner are going to find them there.

MP2

There is no absolute need at any moment in time that anyone persuade you in anything.
But I am afraid that you can't see the forest for the trees.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by beren

MP2

There is no absolute need at any moment in time that anyone persuade you in anything.
But I am afraid that you can't see the forest for the trees.

well no need to be afraid, Beren. I see just fine. demons just don't come around me anymore. My love seems to feel like holy water to them or something. You should have seen this mantis a while back. Ran away making whistling kettle sounds.

I'm talking discerning the real from the fantasy. Not "Ooh, I felt bad so it must have been the devil." What I don't get is why people insist on recreating these old tired games anymore. Just delaying the inevitable. I've already seen a couple of people state they felt attacked and related it to the Abrax connection. this is something we should know about. Anyone else?

[beren]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

well no need to be afraid, Beren. I see just fine. demons just don't come around me anymore. My love seems to feel like holy water to them or something. You should have seen this mantis a while back. Ran away making whistling kettle sounds.

I'm talking discerning the real from the fantasy. Not "Ooh, I felt bad so it must have been the devil." What I don't get is why people insist on recreating these old tired games anymore. Just delaying the inevitable. I've already seen a couple of people state they felt attacked and related it to the Abrax connection. this is something we should know about. Anyone else?

Listen, I understand your point of view but you can not put away demons by thinking that your love must have ousted them.
It does not work that way.

Yes Love is the main weapon against them and no holy water helps. Neither garlic,crosses,icons,pastor prayers or anything that we might imagine.
Only living Creator can help.Only with his spirit they can be ousted.

No mumbo jumbo I love you type of stuff helps.

You can say to them that you are in love and light and that your frequency is higher and that you beat them with your love...
They will laugh in your face and then slam you hard.

In order to beat the enemy you have to know the real weapon against them.
That is why I said that you got to align yourself with truth, you got to humble yourself down before Creator . Then you will be protected. No way around.

If you feel that they don`t attack you well fine. That is good. But stop occasionally and think that maybe they know your reasoning and your thinking that you know better. Then you`re already deceived. Then they leave you alone.

Listen ,I am not accusing.
But think again since this struggle we`re all in has many dimensions .For some physical and for some dimensional. But do not be "wise guy" to think that just because you can `t see them ,they do not exist.
Can you see force of gravity?
No.
But if you jump from 20 stories building you will painfully find out that it actually exist. Then it may be too late since ground will not forgive your ignorance.

Think again, re evaluate, test every spirit.

And quit mocking other people here. It is not decent .

[THE eXchanger]

beren- your way, isn't the only way

if their way works for them,
so, be it, it might just work for another

just as, your way, may work for you,
so, be it, it might just work for another

there are 101 routes that can be taken up any mountain,
and/or heading down into the valley

isn't it time,
everyone respected everyone
for their contributions, and, for their efforts,
to make PA/PC the fabulous place,
that iT is ???

the sum total here,
HOLDS the potential to turn into
a grand 'SEE' of MAGNIFICENCE

[beren]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

beren- your way, isn't the only way

if their way works for them,
so, be it, it might just work for another

just as, your way, may work for you,
so, be it, it might just work for another

there are 101 routes that can be taken up any mountain,
and/or heading down into the valley

isn't it time,
everyone respected everyone
for their contributions, and, for their efforts,
to make PA/PC the fabulous place,
that iT is ???

the sum total here,
HOLDS the potential to turn into
a grand 'SEE' of MAGNIFICENCE

When did I said it was my way?

Where do you find in my posts that I propagate my ways at all?
Thing is that people were attacked quite literary.
Now some here wish to diminish that attack by stating that actually all that was in our minds and lalallallaaa...

I will repeat again from post below...

NO FREAKIN WAY!

I know what struck me and it seems many stated similar things too.


Exchanger you can do whatever you like and believe whatever you like. You can write in codes as you do write. You can play with numerology and hisss in abraxas`s thread as you did it.
You can call that enlightenment .

I will not.

And please why do you write "we" when sometimes you write here?
And sometimes " I ".

Do not pose for somebody else. Do not sound as you are smarter than others as I feel that from your posts. I appreciate you as human being but what do you try to do here?

What is your aim?

Who speak in codes?

Is it 3 or 33 ?

Who speaks like that?
And then you jump and say "Avalon is a loving place ,sharing love and beauty..."
I don`t see that in your way of expressing.
Again I respect you as a human being.
But I would like to feel and see more of your respect of everybody else.

If you wish to claim truth ,love, wisdom and light, justice and compassion ,then you have to surrender yourself to them.
NO hisssing , and Dragon boot licking or coding ,or false knowledge can or will help you in your path.

And one final question for you;

On what side you are on?

Dragon or human?

Speak quickly and spare me of "Love and light singing fairies".

In respect ,

Beren

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by beren

On what side you are on?

Dragon or human?
Speak quickly and spare me of "Love and light singing fairies".
In respect ,
Beren

dear beren,
is your form of questioning; polite/or, even respectful ?
never-the-less, we will answer your questions
we are NOT on any side, and, we are NOT a dragon,
& what on earth, does light and singing fairies,
have to do, with the price of eggs ???

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by beren

Listen, I understand your point of view but you can not put away demons by thinking that your love must have ousted them.
It does not work that way.

Yes Love is the main weapon against them and no holy water helps. Neither garlic,crosses,icons,pastor prayers or anything that we might imagine.
Only living Creator can help.Only with his spirit they can be ousted.

No mumbo jumbo I love you type of stuff helps.

You can say to them that you are in love and light and that your frequency is higher and that you beat them with your love...
They will laugh in your face and then slam you hard.

In order to beat the enemy you have to know the real weapon against them.
That is why I said that you got to align yourself with truth, you got to humble yourself down before Creator . Then you will be protected. No way around.

If you feel that they don`t attack you well fine. That is good. But stop occasionally and think that maybe they know your reasoning and your thinking that you know better. Then you`re already deceived. Then they leave you alone.

Listen ,I am not accusing.
But think again since this struggle we`re all in has many dimensions .For some physical and for some dimensional. But do not be "wise guy" to think that just because you can `t see them ,they do not exist.
Can you see force of gravity?
No.
But if you jump from 20 stories building you will painfully find out that it actually exist. Then it may be too late since ground will not forgive your ignorance.

Think again, re evaluate, test every spirit.

And quit mocking other people here. It is not decent .

Well you didn't understand, my comments, Beren. I'm not saying I thought I loved them away. I'm telling you what happened. I was attacked by this creature, and I remembered the advice of one of my guides, to use frequency matching. It attacks with low frequency, and I answer with high frequency, It could not match, it so fled. I wasn't thinking happy thoughts. I loved this creature, and it was scared spitless by the encounter.

And It didn't come looking for me. I was exploring and stumbled into it's domain.

You take your stories too literally. They make so little of us, and so much of other forces. There is no God which requires us to humble ourselves in order to obtain protection. A fairy tale. At least in my universe. It may be different in yours. And you are welcome to live in that universe all you like. And make believe warriors can live in their dungeons and dragons world all they like. And nobody is bothered by this, as long as you don't come and say this world of battles in heaven and evil demons is real for me, and as long as armchair dragon slayer doesn't say we are all in some battle for our souls. Because although these differing realities may be able to intersect, they are not ubiquitous.They are simply separate but temporarily overlapped. And people can choose which one they occupy and play in. That is the entirely of my message. People have choice over which reality they play in. People like you and Lionhawk want to tell people their reality is THE reality, and thats just a steaming pile.

I talk to God, and God talks back to me. In fact God started it, not me. And God is not like your posts describe. At least not in my universe. My God agrees with me. That I have complete choice, always and in all things. You should visit my God. You'd like Her/him.

[bigmo]

First time I've heard you speak up so much eXchanger... (without numbers) keep it up it's sounding good.

Peace

[beren]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Well you didn't understand, my comments, Beren. I'm not saying I thought I loved them away. I'm telling you what happened. I was attacked by this creature, and I remembered the advice of one of my guides, to use frequency matching. It attacks with low frequency, and I answer with high frequency, It could not match, it so fled. I wasn't thinking happy thoughts. I loved this creature, and it was scared spitless by the encounter.

And It didn't come looking for me. I was exploring and stumbled into it's domain.

You take your stories too literally. They make so little of us, and so much of other forces. There is no God which requires us to humble ourselves in order to obtain protection. A fairy tale. At least in my universe. It may be different in yours. And you are welcome to live in that universe all you like. And make believe warriors can live in their dungeons and dragons world all they like. And nobody is bothered by this, as long as you don't come and say this world of battles in heaven and evil demons is real for me, and as long as armchair dragon slayer doesn't say we are all in some battle for our souls. Because although these differing realities may be able to intersect, they are not ubiquitous.They are simply separate but temporarily overlapped. And people can choose which one they occupy and play in. That is the entirely of my message. People have choice over which reality they play in. People like you and Lionhawk want to tell people their reality is THE reality, and thats just a steaming pile.

I talk to God, and God talks back to me. In fact God started it, not me. And God is not like your posts describe. At least not in my universe. My God agrees with me. That I have complete choice, always and in all things. You should visit my God. You'd like Her/him.

I understood you well.
Trust me I don`t take things literary.

And for the end of this conversation you just marvelously said it at the end of your reply. Your God agrees with you. Beautiful. You are your self`s god.
You chose to live in your bubble and I respect your choice.

You have exercised your free will, now you live with it.

Good luck with that.

With respect,

Beren

[bigmo]

Talk about attacking Beren... I've never read a post by you that wasn't attacking or pointing fingers at the heathen who are doomed to hells eternal fires.

Peace to YOU

Bigmo

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by bigmo

Talk about attacking Beren... I've never read a post by you that wasn't attacking or pointing fingers at the heathen who are doomed to hells eternal fires.

Peace to YOU

Bigmo

well Bigmo, I understand where he is coming from better than most.

I can tell you this, if I went in to cleanse Abraxa/demon...

he is the one I would want standing beside me for protection, because he understands exactly what I would be dealing with.

there is tons of money following this forum so put the money up and bring us together in a central location.

Give us the recording equipment and I guarantee you would be able to hear the possessor of this man as we rip it out of him.

It is not audible to normal human perceptions but recording equipment will pick it up.

you all want to get freaked out...

what you will all hear is something that makes the scariest movies ever made seem like a nursery rhyme...