Questions?

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

iF everyone dealt in truth...
they would NOT need to worry,
or, even be concerned,

who might/or might NOT
be reading their messages

isn't the real avalon/and, the real camelot a place of truth ???

Again Susan, You are speaking from what end of the spectrum?

PM means "Private" so what in the blazing heck does that mean.

Truth?...you speak of truth? When what is being spoken of here is about personal emails...and accounts? Opened before someone signed back in to an account.

There are many ramifications here..one is posing as an imposter....the other is private mail.

I wonder...susan...would you like to have your emails posted on the board for all to see..or at the very least, one that should not have access to such information?

You don't even allow messages on your profile page..so I'm sure you would not post all of your pm's to be read by others. And that is the point...not some silly suggestion that "iF everyone dealt in truth...
they would NOT need to worry,
or, even be concerned,"

please spare us

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

Did I suggest anything about Thuban in the first place in my post? If my concerns had anything to do with Thuban, I would have stated it so that no one would get confused. Just out of respect. Your deduction is very misguided in this instance. Also a useless fire starter. Why am I not surprised? Just another provoking poster who doesn't have a clue as to what I was talking about. May I suggest you reread what I posted and what I was after before you paint more falsehoods as you have also done here in the past. It is stuff like this that has contributed to the present conditions here at this forum. MP2 and I might have had our disagreements on many things, but we also had agreements as well, so get a grip will ya?

Thanks Stargazer for telling it like it is. I hope Karen was paying attention, finally.

Firstly Lionhawk, as a fair bloke your point is taken and understood. I apologise for taking you out of your context.
With regard to the upheaval within the forum i.e. Thuban, bans and mist’s I was trying to ascertain what the agenda is for reading PM’s or activating accounts. It’s obviously for internal reasons but what reasons? Hence my reference to the Thuban crisis (again sorry for taking you out of context) and asking 2 questions.

Now, I’ll ask you a few straight up questions. Please don’t answer if you feel it may jeopardise your position. That is totally understandable. Also don’t answer if you think I am deliberately yanking your chain. With regard to your statement that this gig is compromised, my question is

who has compromised what…. and for what reason.

[BROOK]

I can't speak for Lionhawk...but if it was my account that were hacked, and my PM's had any sensitive information in them....then suppose telling that person not to use PM's any more, and only use a "new" email address...one set up spicifically for the purpose of communication.

That is only one scenario...I can imagine many others here....go ahead and give it a try..see what you can imagine...and then think about "compromise"....

[Karen]

From a former insider on this forum as to Admins abilities to look at PMs:
"No Colin said can't do
And I believe him."

Anchor is the one that told me it would be extremely difficult.

What went on over at Astrovera (or any other forum) and snooping into PMs is no reflection on what the admins at this forum would do.

Now if someone hacked into Lionhawk's user account and accessed PMs that way - then that is a whole other issue from admins snooping into people's private messages. I reported it to admin - and I hammered at them a few times. I got nowhere, which was a typical scenario. By that time we knew we were moving to Avalon 2.0 anyway.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Karen

From a former insider on this forum as to Admins abilities to look at PMs:
"No Colin said can't do
And I believe him."

Anchor is the one that told me it would be extremely difficult.

What went on over at Astrovera (or any other forum) and snooping into PMs is no reflection on what the admins at this forum would do.

Now if someone hacked into Lionhawk's user account and accessed PMs that way - then that is a whole other issue from admins snooping into people's private messages. I reported it to admin - and I hammered at them a few times. I got nowhere, which was a typical scenario. By that time we knew we were moving to Avalon 2.0 anyway.

Well as difficult as it might be...I personally saw Lionhawk signed on, on 02/07/2010...but he did not reactivate his acount until afterward....so that is a question that should be addressed. Because someone was in the account..and the question is why? If I were him, I would be asking the same questions....and he should get some answers, and not be stalled on it. It should be the forum Administrators main concern when things like that happen. And surly not swept under the rug.

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I can't speak for Lionhawk...but if it was my account that were hacked, and my PM's had any sensitive information in them....then suppose telling that person not to use PM's any more, and only use a "new" email address...one set up spicifically for the purpose of communication.

That is only one scenario...I can imagine many others here....go ahead and give it a try..see what you can imagine...and then think about "compromise"....

I'm sorry Brook but I just don't get what you are trying to say. It's all quite vague with regard my questions.

who has compromised what…. and for what reason.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by SteveX

I'm sorry Brook but I just don't get what you are trying to say. It's all quite vague with regard my questions.

who has compromised what…. and for what reason.

As I stated, I cannot speak for Lionhawk. But compromise can come in many shapes and sizes....all one needs to do is use their imagination.
Vague...yes...I agree..but certainly compromised.

[ellie]

A negative last minute dash to procure some poor innocent souls are being made here hoping to led them to slaughter.

I have made a little list I think of the members that will be invited to the yards....................

Let's see if I am right mmmmmh.

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by BROOK

As I stated, I cannot speak for Lionhawk. But compromise can come in many shapes and sizes....all one needs to do is use their imagination.
Vague...yes...I agree..but certainly compromised.

I understand your not speaking for Lionheart. If he doesn’t want to contribute then that’s his prerogative. As to there being a compromise …yer! well maybe. As for using the imagination on a forum with conspiracy theorists…. that’s just asking for trouble lol.
The Kerry & Bill split I see as being a difference of opinion and the Thuban crisis the catalyst for their separation. The way the Thuban crisis was handled is, to some degree, the cause in the split of the moderators and the reasons behind Abrax being banned compounded this. Neither did it help the members of this forum in search of honesty and clarity. Most of the people in the Mist are related to the Thuban group in one form or another. Mods accusing mods that intern Mist mods. It’s a bit too jumpy or dictatorial.

The compromise, if any, seems to come from within. Guilt by association seems to be the order of the day in what appears to be the unfolding of a scapegoat in the Bill & Kerry split.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by SteveX

I understand your not speaking for Lionheart. If he doesn’t want to contribute then that’s his prerogative. As to there being a compromise …yer! well maybe. As for using the imagination on a forum with conspiracy theorists…. that’s just asking for trouble lol.
The Kerry & Bill split I see as being a difference of opinion and the Thuban crisis the catalyst for their separation. The way the Thuban crisis was handled is, to some degree, the cause in the split of the moderators and the reasons behind Abrax being banned compounded this. Neither did it help the members of this forum in search of honesty and clarity. Most of the people in the Mist are related to the Thuban group in one form or another. Mods accusing mods that intern Mist mods. It’s a bit too jumpy or dictatorial.

The compromise, if any, seems to come from within. Guilt by association seems to be the order of the day in what appears to be the unfolding of a scapegoat in the Bill & Kerry split.

That's what I do around her...seems to be the thing I do best...get into trouble

Stevex....I am nothing more than a truth seeker.....and if that takes ruffling a few feathers...then so be it. Maybe after the dust settles we will see the turn of events an they have unfolded, and discover some truth in the process.

but never let it be said I did not voice my opinion..as we all must

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by BROOK

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I wonder...susan...would you like to have your emails posted on the board for all to see..or at the very least, one that should not have access to such information?

You don't even allow messages on your profile page..so I'm sure you would not post all of your pm's to be read by others. And that is the point...not some silly suggestion that "iF everyone dealt in truth...
they would NOT need to worry,
or, even be concerned,"

please spare us

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/member.php?u=8
is quite postable - there is NOTHING that prevents a member
from posting to my profile ?

also, we have NEVER written anyone anything
-that we would have any reason,
to be embarrassed/or, feel any shame for writing it
should it be discovered, and, posted publically

wouldn't it be great if everyone,
lived like that

instead of living shallow !!!

if we have something to say to another - we just say it

or, keep silent ~ silence is the greatest weapon of all

besides, is there anything that really is private in this world ???

VERY likely

NOT ?

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/member.php?u=8
is quite postable - there is NOTHING that prevents a member
from posting to my profile ?

also, we have NEVER written anyone anything
-that we would have any reason,
to be embarrassed/or, feel any shame for writing it
should it be discovered, and, posted publically

wouldn't it be great if everyone,
lived like that

instead of living shallow !!!

if we have something to say to another - we just say it

or, keep silent ~ silence is the greatest weapon of all

besides, is there anything that really is private in this world ???

VERY likely

NOT ?

I'm sure, somewhere there is something you would like to keep private, that you have written...if not, then I think one of, or perhaps several of your aspects should be put up for Sainthood

However...this means nothing when it comes to the "rights" of "privacy"...which is in question...so take the harp, and give it a break...take your aspects out for lunch or something..they deserve it for all the "open truth" they seem to be sharing...and not one secret unrevealed...hmmm That deserves a gold medal as well