love will keep us alive

Originally Posted by TranceAm

But in all due respect,
Aren't we here to prepare to relocate to radiant zones if needed? And share love with the others that will migrate for the same reasons?

So Love and preparedness aren't mutually exclusive..

Personally I like to keep all my options on the table.
I may even love my enemy as a friend until he uncloaks AS an enemy and even grant the enemy to choose the weapons while uncloaking.
But that doesn't mean I close all doors, and make the enemy have its way without my say in it about things that are considered MY body and MY freedom(s)..
Beside that, I might wake up, and want to play that day.

My point wasn't about preparedness and love being mutually exclusive. My point is about one persons reality is different from anothers. And how a persons perceptions and agreements of their subjectivity in a given context... does not need be forced on others.

[Chris Parson]

nvrmnd

[TranceAm]

Originally Posted by OceanWinds

My point is about one persons reality is different from anothers. And how a persons perceptions and agreements of their subjectivity in a given context... does not need be forced on others.

Your point is true (imo), and includes that that knife cuts both ways...

[STARCHILD]

Greetings co-creators,
Here are some magical words for you.These are from a Ramtha teaching.

Love is the UNIVERSAL glue that holds EVERYTHING together.
You are LOVED into this life x

Beautiful!

I hope the sun is shining in your heart today x
Starchild x

[mudra]

The heart that's where the love comes in , that's where the love goes out, that's where all barriers resolve. Let it be

kindness

mudra

[Gnosis5]

I am such a "head" person when it comes to my spiritual path. However, one of my good friends is on a devotional path and I recognize that as a legitimate spiritual path. We are enjoying each other's viewpoint and perhaps our interaction will give both of us balance.

Originally Posted by mudra

The heart that's where the love comes in , that's where the love goes out, that's where all barriers resolve. Let it be

kindness

mudra

[arcora]

Originally Posted by OceanWinds

My point wasn't about preparedness and love being mutually exclusive. My point is about one persons reality is different from anothers. And how a persons perceptions and agreements of their subjectivity in a given context... does not need be forced on others.

And my point was that when one group entirely focused on survival runs across another group entirely focused on love, sparks will fly and love probably won't keep them alive.

History is replete with martyrs. Yes, those martyrs live on in our thoughts and beliefs, but they are not physically alive.

Love does not keep the physical body alive. The physical body needs food, water and oxygen. To believe anything else is naive in my opinion.

[angelite]

Of course we need to be aware and prepare that is why we are here but LOVE is the way the only way to build a new and better world.
I was personally taught by a member of the galactic federation "A community with gun will not survive."

LOVE...... LOVE...... LOVE......... love is all there is
we are here to teach a new way

[TranceAm]

Just remembered an old song I knew in a life 10 years ago..
I think y'all will like the lyric..

Twelfth Night Love Song Lyrics
Songwriters: N/A
(Geoff Mann)

Everybody has wisdom everyone understands
Food when we are hungry
The touch of loving hands
No-one is anyone's property
No-one should be a slave
The joining of hearts in free will
Begins a tidal wave
Don't hold back
Don't think that hope is pointless
Love is a love is a love is a love is
an open door
Don't believe
That life is closed against us
Love is a love is a love is a love is
An open door
And it doesn't make any difference
The colour of anyone's skin
We need the rejection of prejudice
Let peace come flooding in
Jealousy is just a parasite hatred is disease
Respect for human dignity
Become skittering wind blown leaves
Don't hold back
Don't think that hope is pointless
Love is a love is a love is a love is
an open door
Don't believe
That life is closed against us
Love is a love is a love is a love is
An open door
The time is surely coming when we could all be free
When eyes for so long blinded
In opening shall see
That children may grow happily
Safe in the love of all
The earth a fertile garden where no-body need crawl
Don't hold back
Don't think that hope is pointless
Love is a love is a love is a love is
an open door
Don't believe
That life is closed against us
Love is a love is a love is a love is
An open door
And if it seems that your hoping heart
Has led you into pain
Take a tip from the Carpenter
Forgive and love again
and again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AKdzZC0f_E

[conjuredUp]

Originally Posted by angelite

Of course we need to be aware and prepare that is why we are here but LOVE is the way the only way to build a new and better world.
I was personally taught by a member of the galactic federation "A community with gun will not survive."

LOVE...... LOVE...... LOVE......... love is all there is
we are here to teach a new way

A frackin' men!


LOVELOVELOVE,
C

btw I am not trying to disrupt peace in the forum... or get anyone riled up. I enjoy a little debate every now and again though. Please do not take this personally... because its not about that. I am staying open... and gladly accept any thing that people might not agree with in my response acrora.

It's easy to throw out platitudes like "love will keep us alive" and it's even easier to buy into them because it elimintates the pain of having to look at the reality and prepare.

This is the quote I was referring to acrora, not your other point. Here you stated that there is pain in reality, and preparing. Not everyone sees this the way you have chosen to, a person doesn't have to be in a state of fear to look at a given context and prepare for it. Every person has a choice to look at their future with fear, or with a positive confidence. Your choices and agreements are yours, and I you have every right to them. Just like everyone else.

History is replete with martyrs. Yes, those martyrs live on in our thoughts and beliefs, but they are not physically alive.

History is full of people killed every day... for just about every reason you can think of. And you can think that everyone that has been killed for living love. But this is not the case... there have been many powerful instances where love has conquered.

IE... Ghandi taking back India from Britain without a single bullet. It doesn't get much more powerful than this example.

And there are cases where fear and hording only brought violence.

IE... Every famine in history. When the people starve, they will do anything to get bread. I would sooner work together with people, than deny them.... and end up fighting them.

Originally Posted by arcora

And my point was that when one group entirely focused on survival runs across another group entirely focused on love, sparks will fly and love probably won't keep them alive.

Two groups focused entirely on survival probably will have sparks fly aswell. That doesnt mean we need give into fear and anger. Yes by all means be prepared, and take precautions for problems that could occur... because in desperate times people are very unpredictable. But this doesn't mean we cannot also extend a hand and try to help the other group.

In fact by extending a hand, and working together... it might prevent a conflict from happening, because the other group wont feel the need to fight to get their needs met. They may wanna fight anyway... but in that case nothing can be done but to defend. Again preparedness doesnt mean fear... it just means being prepared.

Love does not keep the physical body alive. The physical body needs food, water and oxygen. To believe anything else is naive in my opinion.

Are you sure about this... because there are many people world wide who live on nothing but prana and air. Yeah it takes them time... but they do it, and scientists have studied a few of them. Many saints lived on nothing but the communion host... and many yogi lived without food aswell. (Inedia, Breathairian) Perhaps its naive to think the body needs food...

Just look at a tree. Take a small tree and put it in a pot of dirt that has been weighed. Allow the tree to grow large then pull it out of the dirt. Then weigh the dirt and pot again... and it will be exactly the same as first measurement. The same experiment has been done with babies... and yielded the same results.


In conclusion love does not mean naivety, and preparedness does not mean fear. Emotions are not subjective to specific conditions... and are a choice.

Thankyou